I just have to vent a moment, thought I'd share with the rest of the bikers that frequent the 'cooler.

I brought the bike to work this morning, as I'm prone to do with gas prices being what they are, was enjoying the back mountain roads and had just reached the first of the more crowded throroughfares. I waited and waited and waited for traffic and finally saw a hole that was just big enough to get the bike in and get up to speed, but I'd really have to get on it...thinking that it's a good thing I didn't have the truck because nothing with four wheels could get in there. So, I'm planning ahead, ready to go, there's the hole, I'm gone. I get up to speed (60mph/96kph), straightened out in the lane, right where I need to be...perfect. Just as I'm going for fourth gear, the stupid #*$&% in the Acura that has also been waiting at the next road, decides that she's bigger than I am and just comes at me:eek: :eek: !!!! I hit both brakes, down shifted, and still couldn't get stopped...I was still screaming as I passed her on the left side with about six inches to spare. If that had been a man, I would have been forced to express my displeasure right there in the middle of the road:mad: ...after I retrieved my testicles from my shoulder blades, of course:o. I learned a long time ago that you can see the wheels on a car move before you see the car itself move and if I hadn't had that extra notice, I don't think I'd have missed this morning.:(

Is it just me or are there more and more people out there nowadays that just don't seem to care about those of us on two wheels?

Is it just me or are there more and more people out there nowadays that just don't seem to care about those of us on two wheels?

They either don't care and think they own the road or are blind and didn't see you.
I think all drivers should be forced to take the motorbike driving test, then they'd have to think first

Bod - I sympathise very much so. Sadly in the UK the story is the same.

I've found that riding a bike that looks like this. . . .

http://membres.lycos.fr/scawin/moto/cops_gb_6.JPG

without the word 'police' on it does make people think twice before they cut you up.

My bike (an ex Met police ST1100) is marked up in a similar way.

Col

I prefer 4 wheels to 2 - if you position them correctly - one at each corner, it greatly lessens the chances of tipping over.

Just replace the word Police with Polite ;)

In answer to 4 wheels vs 2 - I prefer 4 wheels - if you position them correctly - one at each corner, it greatly lessens the chances of tipping over.
Yeah but it's difficult getting your knee down on four wheels

I prefer 4 wheels to 2 - if you position them correctly - one at each corner, it greatly lessens the chances of tipping over.
Only if it's this one::eek: :D :D :D
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Dodge_Tomahawk_front.jpg

And yes, that most certainly is a V10, a la Dodge Viper:eek: :eek:

probaly does 2gpm

probaly does 2gpmAnd probably a 4 gallon tank... but what a 2-mile trip it would be:eek:

And probably a 4 gallon tank... but what a 2-mile trip it would be:eek:
If you could keep it on the road ;)

Looks like something if you drag it backwards repeatedly on the floor - then let it go it powers itself.

Don't forget the plastic Evil figure on top.

Looks like something if you drag it backwards repeatedly on the floor - then let it go it powers itself.

But what if you can't jump on fast enough? :confused:

Don't forget the plastic Evil figure on top
Bush rides a motor bike?:confused:

They probably ran you off the road because they are sick of the young retarded bike riders that are always cutting off us 4 wheelers. I get so mad when i see someone on a bike that doesn't realize that us on 4 wheels can't stop as fast as them. Some of the 2 wheelers deserve to be ran off of the road for their stupidity.

Im not saying that any of you are these idiots but i had to throw my 2 cents in.

Hooks

Don't know if you realized it or not, but bikers don't get fender benders when that stuff happens, we go to the hospital. Can't stop as fast? No kidding, we accelerate faster too...you're following too close.
Some of the 2 wheelers deserve to be ran off of the road for their stupidity That someone (or more than one) has that attitude scares the hell out of me.:eek: On two or four wheels, stupid kills. Let them alone and they'll find out soon enough. Yes there are a lot of kids riding crotch rockets and newbie middle-agers that don't have enough experience or common sense, but they don't need your help to discover the error of their ways.

Is it just me or are there more and more people out there nowadays that just don't seem to care about those of us on two wheels?

i've been on two wheels for about 6 weeks now, all commuting miles so far. to be honest i've found most car drivers ok and quite polite about mopeds/motorbikes. the things that annoy me are the fat chelsea tractors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3743623.stm) that take up so much of the lane that you can't sqeeze past!

i've only been cut up once so far - at a junction where i was going thankfully slowly. i haven't really had any other problems (other than a slippy manhole cover during a left turn:o ) but i'm sure they'll happen at some stage.

the things that annoy me are the fat chelsea tractors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3743623.stm) that take up so much of the lane that you can't sqeeze past!

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and the posers who resent the fact that they have to sit in a jam while we wizz past:cool:

Don't know if you realized it or not, but bikers don't get fender benders when that stuff happens, we go to the hospital. Can't stop as fast? No kidding, we accelerate faster too...you're following too close.
That someone (or more than one) has that attitude scares the hell out of me.:eek: On two or four wheels, stupid kills. Let them alone and they'll find out soon enough. Yes there are a lot of kids riding crotch rockets and newbie middle-agers that don't have enough experience or common sense, but they don't need your help to discover the error of their ways.

I new that would ruffle some feathers.

Hooks

Some of the 2 wheelers deserve to be ran off of the road for their stupidity.
But there are more "cagers" that fit that category than bikers.

i've been on two wheels for about 6 weeks now, all commuting miles so far. to be honest i've found most car drivers ok and quite polite about mopeds/motorbikes. the things that annoy me are the fat chelsea tractors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3743623.stm) that take up so much of the lane that you can't sqeeze past!
Interesting articule. So in reality the Brit's are starting to buy into the whole gas guzzler thing also now. Hummm, really make me ponder that whole rant from Col and Rich now. Do as I say, not as I do..... :rolleyes:

and the posers who resent the fact that they have to sit in a jam while we wizz past:cool:

And you wonder why car drivers get annoyed, I don't mind you creeping through whilst we are stationary after all I used to do it myself, but idiots whizz beteeen lines of creeping traffic,ignoring blind spots, I've been taken on both sides at the same time!

Brian

And you wonder why car drivers get annoyed, I don't mind you creeping through whilst we are stationary after all I used to do it myself, but idiots whizz beteeen lines of creeping traffic,ignoring blind spots, I've been taken on both sides at the same time!

Brian


I agree 100%

And you wonder why car drivers get annoyed, I don't mind you creeping through whilst we are stationary after all I used to do it myself, but idiots whizz beteeen lines of creeping traffic,ignoring blind spots, I've been taken on both sides at the same time!

Brian
Where did I mention moving traffic ? :confused:

Interesting articule. So in reality the Brit's are starting to buy into the whole gas guzzler thing also now. Hummm, really make me ponder that whole rant from Col and Rich now. Do as I say, not as I do..... :rolleyes:
Had you read a few more posts you would have realised that both Col and I are keen energy efficient motorcyclists:rolleyes: :cool:

Where did I mention moving traffic ? :confused:

You didn't but you used the word wizz, I want you to creep with care, jams do move occasionally, still carry on nit picking other peoples' posts and ignore the message.

Brian

You didn't but you used the word wizz, I want you to creep with care, jams do move occasionally,Brian
There's nothing illegal in filtering through traffic whether it's stationary or not, I stand by my original statement.
There are also inconsiderate pedestrians, cyclists, car drivers, van drivers, lorry drivers, bus drivers, one is usually more aware of them when on a bike


still carry on nit picking other peoples' posts and ignore the message.


has your tea gone down the wrong way? :confused:

Had you read a few more posts you would have realised that both Col and I are keen energy efficient motorcyclists
Ah, but since you pretty much lump all the Ameicans together, guess what, you energy using, carbon emmiting, world destroying, polluters! Same back! :p :D

Ah, but since you pretty much lump all the Ameicans together, guess what, you energy using, carbon emmiting, world destroying, polluters! Same back! :p :D
Nope, the figures support our stance on this matter, Americans are destroying the planet :cool: :p

Nope! Wrong again... the biggest sources of greenhouse gases are volcanoes and rain-forest termite farts. Can't do much about volcanoes, but we can cut down all the rain forests and get rid of the termites. ;)

Nope! Wrong again... the biggest sources of greenhouse gases are volcanoes and rain-forest termite farts. Can't do much about volcanoes, but we can cut down all the rain forests and get rid of the termites. ;)
Nope, I'm right, I'm afraid you're wrong here, volcanoes actually reduce the temperature of the planet

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925385.000.html

Nope, I'm right, I'm afraid you're wrong here, volcanoes actually reduce the temperature of the planet

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925385.000.html
You can find arguments either way. Depends on the eruption.

Volcanic activity has the ability to affect global climate on still
longer time scales. Over periods of millions or even tens of millions of
years, increased volcanic activity can emit enormous volumes of greenhouse
gases, with the potential of substantial global warming (Pickering & Owen,
1994; Rampino & Volk, 1988). However, the global cooling effects of sulphur
dioxide emissions (Officer & Drake, 1983) will act to counter the greenhouse
warming, and the resultant climate changes remain uncertain. Much will
depend upon the nature of volcanic activity. Basaltic outpourings release
far less sulphur dioxide and ash, proportionally, than do the more explosive
(silicic) eruptions......

ok...back to the topic...had to get gas this morning ($7 beats $40 anyday;) ) so I took the interstate to work. My forearms are still tired from holding into the wind and countering the slipstream from all the semis, volcanoes, and farting termites:eek:, but the ride was fun all the same:D

but the ride was fun all the same:D
But your roads are all straight, how can you have fun? :confused: :cool:
and what's a semi, is that short for semi-detached house?

Nope, the figures support our stance on this matter, Americans are destroying the planet :cool: :p
ot really, if you look at your figures (going on memory here so bear with me) but I believe you said America is causing 25% (there abouts) of the worlds polution. So in reality the rest of the world is causing 75%. Get the rest of the world to stop! OH, that would mean YOU might have to give up something, hummm.

Nope, I'm right, I'm afraid you're wrong here, volcanoes actually reduce the temperature of the planet

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925385.000.html
That is misleading, they still throw more carbon into the air, which effects it after the ash leaves the atmosphire

ok...back to the topic...had to get gas this morning ($7 beats $40 anyday;) ) so I took the interstate to work. My forearms are still tired from holding into the wind and countering the slipstream from all the semis, volcanoes, and farting termites:eek:, but the ride was fun all the same:D
Why not get a windsheild?
Actually on a GUZZI forum I asked that question, because my brother was telling me that he is almost (notice almost) afraid to ride a bike without one after having one on his Magna V65. He says to many bugs, rocks, etc to fly up and hit you. So I was wondering if I should put one on my Jackal. Unfortunatly (like Rich here) I get more opinion than experience in the answers, but thought I would ask. I like the look without a windsheild (OK Rich, windscreen for you), but was wondering if the advantages outweigh any disadvantages? Seems like one thing in common for one is the very thing you were saying, cutting back on the wind pressure on higher speed long rides.

But your roads are all straight, how can you have fun? :confused: :cool:
and what's a semi, is that short for semi-detached house?
Semi-Truck, 18 wheeler, like one of your large Lorries I think you use, but I think slightly larger over all.

But your roads are all straight, how can you have fun? :confused: :cool:The road to the Interstate is not straight:D I usually take the back mountain road into work, which is much more interesting.and what's a semi, is that short for semi-detached house?http://www.thesabre.com/football/smithctr/project3/update0731/SS072124.jpg
(had to find one with people to give you an idea of scale)
Why not get a windsheild?True, they do block wind, bugs, rocks, chickens, spears, arrows, ducks, and geese.:eek: However, like you, I don't like the way they look and I compensate for the airflow with a full-face helmet while on the interstate. The wind doesn't really bother me until I go above 70mph. I can tool around all day at 60 and below without having any problems. The downfall with the windshield/windscreen is that most of them are curved and aerodynamically act like a wing when you get caught in the side draft from a large rig. Sometimes it blows you away from it, but usually it'll suck you into the truck. Plus, I'm more likely to clean my clothes than wash the windshield on the bike:o I'll just hang on, thanks:D

Yea, I hit a blackbird going 75 MPH (120 KPH) once, caugt it in the left shin. Windsheild would not have helped. Thought I lost the lower part of my leg. After I managed to get the bike pulled over, I was suprised to find everything below the knee still there. But on one hand I could not image what it would be like to catch it in the chest or on a helmet. Killed the dang bird HA!

ot really, if you look at your figures (going on memory here so bear with me) but I believe you said America is causing 25% (there abouts) of the worlds polution. So in reality the rest of the world is causing 75%. Get the rest of the world to stop! OH, that would mean YOU might have to give up something, hummm.
Hmmmmmmmm, looks like you schooling fails on maths too, the rest of the WORLD contains 96% of the Worlds population, let me see, 4% causes 25% of pollution. Oh and we in Europe have drastically reduced our emissions, of course the US has pi**ed it all out of the window

(OK Rich, windscreen for you),

Windscreens are for cars

Semi-Truck, 18 wheeler, like one of your large Lorries I think you use, but I think slightly larger over all.
Why is it called a semi (that's semeeeeeeee, by the way), is it only half a lorry?:confused:

"Semi" because you get a full-blown truck only when you add a Semi-tractor to a trailer. Without both, you have only half a truck. Colloquial usage.

Jeez, what a (lack of) sense of humor. The REAL comment in there was about termite farts as a source of methane. The joke was, of course, that to save the environment I was suggesting we change it by removing all of the rain forests that feed the termites. Some folks just don't catch my drive-by jokes, I guess.

No apologies, folks. It was getting too grim here.

Why is it called a semi (that's semeeeeeeee, by the way), is it only half a lorry?:confused: It's sem-eye, actually:rolleyes: and Doc's right...it's colloquial in nature. They're also called 18-Wheelers, Rigs, Tractor-Trailers, Trucks, etc. Sorry I was unclear...what English description would you understand more?:D



...and Doc...I LMAO on the termite farts thing. My wife is bunny-hugger, so I had to share that opinion and enjoyed every moment:D

Jeez, what a (lack of) sense of humor. The REAL comment in there was about termite farts as a source of methane. The joke was, of course, that to save the environment I was suggesting we change it by removing all of the rain forests that feed the termites. Some folks just don't catch my drive-by jokes, I guess.

No apologies, folks. It was getting too grim here.

Don't worry I nearly fell off my chair when i read the post, but have virtually given up posting on the 'cooler, see your last sentence above, + the constant anti American rant..

brian

Jeez, what a (lack of) sense of humor. The REAL comment in there was about termite farts as a source of methane. The joke was, of course, that to save the environment I was suggesting we change it by removing all of the rain forests that feed the termites. Some folks just don't catch my drive-by jokes, I guess.

No apologies, folks. It was getting too grim here.

I got a good laugh out of it.;)

I got a good laugh out of it.;)
I wonder why he jumped to the conclusion that nobody else did? :confused:

I wonder why he jumped to the conclusion that nobody else did? :confused:

Maybe because nobody said anything? :confused:

Maybe because nobody said anything? :confused:
Ah! an attention seeker you mean ;) :D

Ah! an attention seeker you mean ;) :D

I know a few others. :D

I know a few others. :D
Does one of them reside in the White House?:confused:

Does one of them reside in the White House?:confused:

Perhaps. :rolleyes: But I was talking about here on the forum. ;)

Perhaps. :rolleyes: But I was talking about here on the forum. ;)
Yes I've noticed one or two of them here myself, still one keeps one's thoughts to oneself on the subject.
There's plenty of other material to discuss for the time being;)

Yes I've noticed one or two of them here myself, still one keeps one's thoughts to oneself on the subject.
There's plenty of other material to discuss for the time being;)

Apparently there isn't, since we keep talking about the same things over and over. :D

Apparently there isn't, since we keep talking about the same things over and over. :D
The other subjects obviously aren't very intesting :eek:

They're also called 18-Wheelers, Rigs, Tractor-Trailers, Trucks, etc. Sorry I was unclear...what English description would you understand more?:D

The correct one would be nice:rolleyes: they are actually called articulated lorries

Col

He says to many bugs, rocks, etc to fly up and hit you. So I was wondering if I should put one on my Jackal. Unfortunatly (like Rich here) I get more opinion than experience in the answers, but thought I would ask.
Unfortunately, for riders in the UK who ride all year round, a windshield is almost a neccesity to offer weather protection.

If a motorcycle is ridden correctly, the side draught from lorries is minimal. Obviously, if one is riding a Harley Davidson tractor, then I agree, the 10 minutes taken to pass a lorry can be a white knuckle ride.

Col

The correct one would be nice:rolleyes: they are actually called articulated lorriesI'll file that one away for future reference...but now I have a "define this" question: according to the dictionary:lorry- Motor truck used for transport of goods. Note: Motor truck is an American term. British synonym for motor truck is Heavy Goods Vehicle. This British term means any vehicle exceeding 7.5 metric tons maximum laden weight.
--a large low horse-drawn wagon without sides
--a large truck designed to carry heavy loads; usually without sides
So what does "lorry" refer to in the statement "...runnin' 'round, mad as lorries...":confused:

Nice to see you back...good vacation/holiday?

So what does "lorry" refer to in the statement "...runnin' 'round, mad as lorries...":confused:
I've never heard that statement. . . . . . is it American?

Nice to see you back...good vacation/holiday?
Fine thanks Bod, just busy doing odd jobs that build up at home. Plus a little run down to the South Coast on the bike of course.:D

So, hows things been over the last 6 days? . . . . . .all behaving yourselves?

Col

I've never heard that statement. . . . . . is it American?No...a line of dialogue from "Snatch". I always assumed it was an animal of some type:confused: :o
So, hows things been over the last 6 days? . . . . . .all behaving yourselves?SSDD:D

No...a line of dialogue from "Snatch". I always assumed it was an animal of some type:confused: :o
SSDD:D
Have you learned some kind of new language in the last few days?:confused: you seem to talk in riddles and abbreviations. . . . .

Col

Have you learned some kind of new language in the last few days?:confused: you seem to talk in riddles and abbreviations. . . . . Sorry, I wasn't aware that euphamism did not translate to the other side of the pond:o (Same Sh*t, Different Day)

Sorry, I wasn't aware that euphamism did not translate to the other side of the pond:o (Same Sh*t, Different Day)
never heard that one either. However, I shall note it in case it crops up somewhere.;)

Col

Obviously, if one is riding a Harley Davidson tractor, then I agree, the 10 minutes taken to pass a lorry can be a white knuckle ride.

Col

Yeah it would be quicker and safer to jump off the Harley and run past :cool:

Yeah it would be quicker and safer to jump off the Harley and run past :cool:

:D Boy, what do you guys have against Harleys anyway?

:D Boy, what do you guys have against Harleys anyway?

You mean other than that they're slow, unreliable, far too expensive, uncomfortable ?;)

and ridden by the elderly

You mean other than that they're slow, unreliable, far too expensive, uncomfortable ?;)

and ridden by the elderly

That's all? That's no biggie then. :rolleyes:

Don't know much about the other comments but I can probably agree with the 'far too expensive' one. ;)

[QUOTE=Rich]There's nothing illegal in filtering through traffic whether it's stationary or not, I stand by my original statement.
QUOTE]

It may not be illegal but its dumb Dumb DUMB

It may not be illegal but its dumb Dumb DUMB

No it's not not NOT

Don't know much about the other comments but I can probably agree with the 'far too expensive' one. ;)

Are they dear over there too? I don't understand why so many old farts over here have them except that they don't get a thrill out of any sort speed anymore:confused:

Are they dear over there too? I don't understand why so many old farts over here have them except that they don't get a thrill out of any sort speed anymore:confused:

Don't really know myself. Maybe they would rather just cruise about leisurely whilst shaking their fists at the young whipper snappers that go barrelling by. :D

No it's not not NOT

I've been riding since 1967 (before some of you were born).

If you remember your original training:

How can you make space and create escape routes if you're trapped between two cars and one decides to change lanes without seeing you?

What happens if one of the vehicles decides to discharge a passenger in the middle of the traffic jam and the door opens?

The only way to survive on a motorcycle in an urban area is to ride paranoid. They're all out to get me and I'm a fool if I give them an opportunity.

PS - Only been hit once and the car driver ignored my eye contact and my horn.

PPS - Currently riding an ex Police BMW K750. Never thought to leave the striping on. Great idea.

What happens if one of the vehicles decides to discharge a passenger in the middle of the traffic jam and the door opens?

How can you make space and create escape routes if you're trapped between two cars and one decides to change lanes without seeing you?

.

Both those things can happen anyway thanks to the stupidity and ignorance of car drivers who think the roads belong only to them:mad:

So what does "lorry" refer to in the statement "...runnin' 'round, mad as lorries...":confused:
There are birds called "Lorries", we used to have a
Rainbow Lorry (http://www.pbase.com/image/19479483)

Both those things can happen anyway thanks to the stupidity and ignorance of car drivers who think the roads belong only to them:mad:

Mwah hah hah hah. (Evil laughs) http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/evilgrin/evilgrin0027.gif

Mwah hah hah hah. (Evil laughs) http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/evilgrin/evilgrin0027.gif
and especially women drivers!:mad: :p

and especially women drivers!:mad: :p

Mwah hah hah hah. (Evil laughs again) It's really all part of a big, sinister plan. I'd tell you about it, but then I'd have to kill you. ;) :D

Mwah hah hah hah. (Evil laughs again) It's really all part of a big, sinister plan. I'd tell you about it, but then I'd have to kill you. ;) :D

Holy sh*t! another conspiracy, I bet you're a freemason with the Star of David tattooed on your forehead, or somewhere:eek:

Holy sh*t! another conspiracy, I bet you're a freemason with the Star of David tattooed on your forehead, or somewhere:eek:

Close enough. ;)

Besides, how do you think I knew about the foil hats? :D

Close enough. ;)



How close, might one ask? :confused: :cool:

How close, might one ask? :confused: :cool:

I'll leave that to your imagination. Wait, that might be a bad idea. :eek:

I'll leave that to your imagination. Wait, that might be a bad idea. :eek:
I'm lost for words:eek: well those that can be viewed by the youngsters frequenting here;) :D

well those that can be viewed by the youngsters frequenting here;) :D

Of which you aren't one? :eek: :D

Of which you aren't one? :eek: :D
not in mind or worldly matters, no :cool: :D

not in mind or worldly matters, no :cool: :D

You must be a really fast learner to have obtained such vast knowledge at such a tender age, huh? :rolleyes: :D

You must be a really fast learner to have obtained such vast knowledge at such a tender age, huh? :rolleyes: :D
Yes, top of the class :cool: :p

Yes, top of the class :cool: :p

Yes, but what class? :D :p

Yes, but what class? :D :p
Psychology, diplomacy, tact, patience :cool: :p

Psychology, diplomacy, tact, patience :cool: :p

And also antagonism, ambivalence, and audacity. :eek: ;) :D

And also antagonism, ambivalence, and audacity. :eek: ;) :D
Two of those answers are incorrect, one just seeks the answers to important questions that just beg to be asked :cool:

There are birds called "Lorries", we used to have a
Rainbow Lorry (http://www.pbase.com/image/19479483)
Lorikeet. Never heard them called lorries before. Makes sense as an abbreviation I guess.

Lorikeet. Never heard them called lorries before. Makes sense as an abbreviation I guess.
OH, and I suppose you call a parrot a parakeet. :p :rolleyes: :D
RICH:
No, we call them Budgies, you Americans, can't speak English, kill everything in sight, and are ruining the whole world!

HA! Beat you to it!

OH dang, almost forgot!
RICH: GWB Sucks

:D

OH, and I suppose you call a parrot a parakeet. :p :rolleyes: :D
RICH:
No, we call them Budgies, you Americans, can't speak English, kill everything in sight, and are ruining the whole world!

HA! Beat you to it!

OH dang, almost forgot!
RICH: GWB Sucks

:D
No parrots are different to parakeets...
and budgies are budgerigars, different again :p

And "rose crested cockatoos" are galahs! :D

RICH: GWB Sucks

:D
through a straw? :confused: