Does anyone else besides me want to see some restraint exhibited on this Political forum or is degeneration past all conscience going to be its dying call?

I have lamented on several occasions the resource being squandered here.

And could someone explain to me why every thread turns into a rant about America or Christianity.

And why is it acceptable to attack ones culture and blame them personally for the worlds woes, but not to attack their person.

Anyway that’s my question/statement.

Does anyone else besides me want to see some restraint exhibited on this Political forum or is degeneration past all conscience going to be its dying call?

I have lamented on several occasions the resource being squandered here.

And could someone explain to me why every thread turns into a rant about America or Christianity.

And why is it acceptable to attack ones culture and blame them personally for the worlds woes, but not to attack their person.

Anyway that’s my question/statement.

I've been wondering that for a long time. They've already killed the Watercooler, now this forum is on it's way. :rolleyes:

Does anyone else besides me want to see some restraint exhibited on this Political forum or is degeneration past all conscience going to be its dying call?

I have lamented on several occasions the resource being squandered here.

And could someone explain to me why every thread turns into a rant about America or Christianity.

And why is it acceptable to attack ones culture and blame them personally for the worlds woes, but not to attack their person.

Anyway that’s my question/statement.

Don't know that I can actually answer the questions you have presented but I would like to echo what you are saying. I do not understand why disagreeing agreeably is not acceptable. I have seen enough of yours, as well as others, post to know that my opinions on a number of topics do not agree with yours but I can not see any reason to turn those disagreements into comments about you or where your born and most especially to attack things that are important to you. I do not understand the necessity of tearing down something you believe in just because I don't. Why can't a friendly debate be arrived at rather than a bashing?

I'd love to see a place where topics could be discussed without all the crud. I thought this was supposed to be that place, leaving the other stuff in the cooler. Certain people bring that stuff over here, ruining it here too. My guess is that this thread won't last an hour before it starts here too.

I'd love to see a place where topics could be discussed without all the crud. I thought this was supposed to be that place, leaving the other stuff in the cooler. Certain people bring that stuff over here, ruining it here too. My guess is that this thread won't last an hour before it starts here too.

Isn't that sort of pessimism just typical of people whose Usernames begin with the letter 'P'? JOKING, HONEST! :D

Seriously, it has gotten more than a bit tedious. I used to enjoy the conversations here and even looked forward to learning a thing or two outside of VBA, but lately the posts are harder and harder to wade through.

I get into work and see that some thread I saw the start of has gone from 1 page to 6, but when I start reading the posts are on par with:

"You smell"
"No I don't, YOU do"
"Your whole country smells"
etc.

For page after page.

Like you say, sad as it is, I can't see an end coming to it any time soon.:(

Isn't that sort of pessimism just typical of people whose Usernames begin with the letter 'P'? JOKING, HONEST! :D

Seriously, it has gotten more than a bit tedious. I used to enjoy the conversations here and even looked forward to learning a thing or two outside of VBA, but lately the posts are harder and harder to wade through.

I get into work and see that some thread I saw the start of has gone from 1 page to 6, but when I start reading the posts are on par with:

"You smell"
"No I don't, YOU do"
"Your whole country smells"
etc.

For page after page.

I agree. I go through periods where I don't really post much at all because I get tired of wading through all the BS.

Like you say, sad as it is, I can't see an end coming to it any time soon.:(

It's doubtful. I guess some people just like to complain about everything and think they are "educating" others. :(

It's almost Monty-Python-esque:
<Brit>
I come to show you the way to the Holy Grail!

<American>
I blow my nose at you...and all your seely Eeeengleesh Ka-Niggets!!

<Brit>
Ni! Ni!

<American>
Ekky-ekky-ekky-ekky-z'Bang, zoom-Boing, z'nourrrwringmm

<Brit>
A horrible death awaits you with great, big, nasty, pointed teeth

:D

But jokes aside, I would like to see a little more honest communication instead of the drudgery that is becoming the norm...:(

It's almost Monty-Python-esque:

OMG, that is one of the funniest films ever :D

Probably one of the funniest lines in comedy...

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/8565/images/blkknight.jpg

EDIT: I would make a comment on the topic in hand but it's all been said a thousand times before :(

OMG, that is one of the funniest films ever :D

Probably one of the funniest lines in comedy...

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/8565/images/blkknight.jpg

EDIT: I would make a comment on the topic in hand but it's all been said a thousand times before :(

That scene reminds me of the futility of trying to have discussion with some people (which of course, is why you posted it).

It's just a flesh wound!

I'll bite your legs off!

That scene reminds me of the futility of trying to have discussion with some people (which of course, is why you posted it).

It's just a flesh wound!
You know what we call Americans like you (or anyone else for that matter) big head. If you don't want your theories challenged on how grateful we should be to the mighty Us then don't post them to start with:rolleyes:

You know what we call Americans like you (or anyone else for that matter) big head. If you don't want your theories challenged on how grateful we should be to the mighty Us then don't post them to start with:rolleyes:

That’s pretty much the post I would have expected.

Do you really think that big headed Americans actually think you should be grateful to us?

Do you really think that big headed Americans actually think you should be grateful to us?
Yep !

Yep !
So then you say that I personally think you owe us?

So then you say that I personally think you owe us?
Not any more, I think the last payment of our "war debt" to America was made very recently, now we can cast off the shackles

Not any more, I think the last payment of our "war debt" to America was made very recently, now we can cast off the shackles

The funny thing is that on this planet there is probably no greater allies then the English speaking countries.

Can you think of any four countries that have had less conflict with each other, than Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and the United States?

My guess is that this thread won't last an hour before it starts here too.

I was wrong. It was closer to 2. Mea culpa.

The funny thing is that on this planet there is probably no greater allies then the English speaking countries.

Can you think of any four countries that have had less conflict with each other, than Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and the United States?

Our Stats would look better if we cut out the US where its Won none Drawn one Lost one.
:D

brian

And further more; if it all does go in the crapper.

I would like nothing better than to have the Britts standing shoulder to shoulder with us again.

Truthfully I think the vast majority of Americans love the British and never even knew about or cared about any debt..

As I said before some of my family went over during WWII and fought for the British before the rest of America.

Our Stats would look better if we cut out the US where its Won none Drawn one Lost one.
:D

brian

I meant with each other Brian. Surely we have been in many conflicts with others.

Our Stats would look better if we cut out the US where its Won none Drawn one Lost one.
:D

brian

Actually Brian everyone looses in War.

And further more; if it all does go in the crapper.

I would like nothing better than to have the Britts standing shoulder to shoulder with us again.

.
Well I hate to point out the obvious (and be accused of anti-Americanism again:rolleyes: ) but you stood shoulder to shoulder with us during WW11 and not visa-versa, we did not stand shoulder to shoulder with you over Nam and after the Iraq debacle won't stand shoulder to shoulder with you again

but you stood shoulder to shoulder with us during WW11

I still don't know how you could know so much about World War Eleven. Are you a Psychic? :eek: :p

Well I hate to point out the obvious (and be accused of anti-Americanism again:rolleyes: ) but you stood shoulder to shoulder with us during WW11 and not visa-versa, we did not stand shoulder to shoulder with you over Nam and after the Iraq debacle won't stand shoulder to shoulder with you again


Well it's not all in the crapper, is it Rich?

Before this Oil war is resolved Britain will be very happy to be allied with the US.

Becasue next time we are in it together it'l be the Chinese, and that's a whole nother pain.

we ... won't stand shoulder to shoulder with you again

I didn't know you were in charge.

Brian

after the Iraq debacle won't stand shoulder to shoulder with you again

Whether it's right or wrong, I can't see a time when the UK will outright refuse to help the US.

I still don't know how you could know so much about World War Eleven. Are you a Psychic? :eek: :p
It's only seen as eleven in the US, mind you I could argue that as far as the US goes the current war in Iraq is their eleventh world war :p

Whether it's right or wrong, I can't see a time when the UK will outright refuse to help the US.
It stayed out of Vietnam

It's only seen as eleven in the US, mind you I could argue that as far as the US goes the current war in Iraq is their eleventh world war :p

WW11 is world war eleven, WWII is world war two , if you insist on using Roman numbers use them properly.

Brian

Before this Oil war is resolved Britain will be very happy to be allied with the US.

No we're not

Becasue next time we are in it together it'l be the Chinese, and that a whole nother pain
Why how much oil do they have?:confused:

It stayed out of Vietnam

So your saying that the British didn't supply us with intel during that period?

WW11 is world war eleven, WWII is world war two , if you insist on using Roman numbers use them properly.

Brian
You'd best tell Google too then
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=WW11&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

So your saying that the British didn't supply us with intel during that period?
I've no idea, we certainly didn't get involved in the fighting of another one of America's wars

You'd best tell Google too then
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=WW11&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Ah, yes but it only returns 394,000 results for WW11 while it returns 30 million for WWII. :D

It also recognizes 'idoit'. :p

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=idoit&btnG=Google+Search

Hmmm

Think in this forum I have seen Anglers in action.

Cast out a bait and see who bites.

Angler likes nothing more that a good bite

L

No we're not


Why how much oil do they have?:confused:


Don't be an idiot.

They (the Chinese) are not building a modern Navy just to put on regattas. Have you been following their posturing in the South China Seas?

The next Global conflict on this planet is going to originate in East Asia. And it’s unlikely your ravings about an insignificant action like the one in Iraq are going to have much weight.

Don't be an idiot.

They (the Chinese) are not building a modern Navy just to put on regattas. Have you been following their posturing in the South China Seas?

The next Global conflict on this planet is going to originate in East Asia. And it’s unlikely your ravings about an insignificant action like the one in Iraq are going to have much weight.
You mean the Chinese are emulating the US, remind me again, who's the idiot?

You mean the Chinese are emulating the US, remind me again, who's the idiot?

As I proved before, and you ignored, the British set the example this last 100 years by dividing the Middle East to accommodate their need to protect their oil interest.

I started this thread to accomplish what is being simultaneously solved on another.

I for one will not be drawn into another discussion that is off topic.

It stayed out of Vietnam

Don't know how accurate this is,

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=9837

but even if it did stay out in the past, I really don't think it will happend again. Especially once Bush is gone.

Don't know how accurate this is,

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=9837

but even if it did stay out in the past, I really don't think it will happend again. Especially once Bush is gone.
That article was replaced by this, yes we have stayed out of American wars in the past and I'm certain will do so again. Bliar's party faces the same fate as the Republicans now;)

http://www.americansc.org.uk/Online/Wilsonjohnson.htm

Ah the power of the ignore list

I for one will not be drawn into another discussion that is off topic.
You bloody started it:rolleyes:

Quote from Rich

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianwarnock
WW11 is world war eleven, WWII is world war two , if you insist on using Roman numbers use them properly.

Brian

You'd best tell Google too then
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=__________________

Which just proves that you don't mind things being incorrect when it suites you.

Brian

Quote from Rich

__________________

Which just proves that you don't mind things being incorrect when it suites you.

Brian
Google must be incorrect too then eh and we really don't want to get involved in a grammar war here, do we?

Quote from Rich

__________________

Which just proves that you don't mind things being incorrect when it suites you.

Brian

I'm your number one fan. No wonder the The British and the US are so close.

I'm your number one fan. No wonder the The British and the US are so close.
Your ignore list didn't last very long did it:rolleyes:

Google must be incorrect too then eh and we really don't want to get involved in a grammar war here, do we?

Google does suggest that you look ar WW2 when you put in WW11 , but does show results for WW11, probably recognise how widespread the ignorance is.

Grammar war? :confused:

brian

Your ignore list didn't last very long did it:rolleyes:

If Joe is ignoring you he would still have picked up my post. :rolleyes:

Brian

If Joe is ignoring you he would still have picked up my post. :rolleyes:

Brian

No ones on my ignore list and this thread was started off topic by me. So I can choose to respond to any thing said on it because it's off topic.

I'm much more concerned about the other one here where meaningful discussion are so derailed by BS rhetoric that people aren't even finishing their thoughts.

It's just a flesh wound!

<American>
You've lost your arm

<Brit>
Have not!

<American>
But you've got no legs!

<Brit>
Do so!

<American>
Rolls eyes...walks away, shaking head

<Brit>
Running away, are ye?

:eek:

< Brit >

You've lost your arm

< American >

Call my lawyer

:D

Brian

< Brit >

You've lost your arm

< American >

Call my lawyer

:D

Brian
<American Lawyer to Brit>
Your Mother was a Hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!:D

< Brit >

You've lost your arm

< American >

Call my lawyer

:D

Brian

So the moral of that stories boy and girls is to grow up to become a lawyer.

So the moral of that stories boy and girls is to grow up to become a lawyer.Not according to Shakespeare:cool:

Not according to Shakespeare:cool:

Or Samuel Clements for that mater, and since he was American, he is obviously much more qualified.

Or Samuel Clements for that mater, and since he was American, he is obviously much more qualified.Now that you mention it, he also said:
An Englishman is a person who does things because they have been done before. ...makes you wonder, doesn't it? ;)

You'd best tell Google too
GOOGLE:confused:
Rich, you have sunk to a new low.
Google is a search engine, not a reference.

Um Mr. Google, can you help me for a minute please, can you tell me.....

Oh, guru Google, can you please enlighten us in the wisdom of the ages....

<American Lawyer to Brit>
Your Mother was a Hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!:D

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Brian

Now that you mention it, he also said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Twain
An Englishman is a person who does things because they have been done before.

...makes you wonder, doesn't it? ;)

So all those inventions /discoveries by Englishmen had been done before. WOW it really does make you think.:rolleyes:

It makes me think people will quote any old crap.

Brian

I suppose, in my attempt to not direct my comments to anyone personally, I became as guilty as others by blanketing my comments to a specific nationality...sorry Brian.:o

Surely you understood the Hamster/Elderberries reference?:confused:

I suppose, in my attempt to not direct my comments to anyone personally, I became as guilty as others by blanketing my comments to a specific nationality...sorry Brian.:o

Surely you understood the Hamster/Elderberries reference?:confused:

Actually I thought it was a bit of fun, but that the Mark Twain quote was rubbish, so no apology nescessary, and I'm ignorant on the Hamster/Elderberries reference - sorry.

Brian

Actually I thought it was a bit of fun, but that the Mark Twain quote was rubbish, so no apology nescessary, and I'm ignorant on the Hamster/Elderberries reference - sorry.

Brian
ahhh...you really should watch Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail:D

The picture was a clue

(I can't do references - check Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

I'll log it as a to do, see if I can sneek it into the bosses list :D

Brian

I'll log it as a to do, see if I can sneek it into the bosses list :D

Brian

It's a definet "must see" i learned everything I know about the British from that movie.

It's a definet "must see" i learned everything I know about the British from that movie.

Ahh, a fantasy tale then :D

brian

GOOGLE:confused:
Rich, you have sunk to a new low.
Google is a search engine, not a reference.

Um Mr. Google, can you help me for a minute please, can you tell me.....

Oh, guru Google, can you please enlighten us in the wisdom of the ages....


Using internet search engine Google can help doctors diagnose tricky cases, researchers have said.

Dr Hangwi Tang, of the Princess Alexandra Hospital in Brisbane, explained the study from the New England Journal of Medicine.



If it's good enough for them it's good enough for me

Google does suggest that you look ar WW2 when you put in WW11 , but does show results for WW11, probably recognise how widespread the ignorance is.

brian
It's my mothers fault, now I'll sue her for not sending me to the same school as you

I looked in this morning and it’s become the norm; hardly anyone is here.

It just entirely too hostile.

I had hoped this thread would help us all (Rich and Col) work out our problems. It looks like Col has tried to turn it down a bit, and Rich gave the appearance for a few days.

Well Rich I hope you’re happy, not many people want to come here and play anymore.

I looked in this morning and it’s become the norm hardly anyone is here.

It just entirely too hostile.

I had hoped this thread would help us all (Rich and Col) work out our problems. It looks like Col has tried to turn it down a bit, and Rich gave the appearance for a few days.

Well Rich I hope you’re happy, not many people want to come here and play anymore.

Then you get those who like to dish it out but can't take it. 'Oh deary me, now you've gotten personal'. :rolleyes:

The picture was a clue

(I can't do references - check Monty Python and the Holy Grail)


I know it doesn't make sense, but couldn't resist this one : :D




http://files.sunlock.dk/pictures/blog/2006/06_jun/gave_madsen.jpg

That's awesome, rak! :D

Then you get those who like to dish it out but can't take it. 'Oh deary me, now you've gotten personal'. :rolleyes:

I'd like to tell a true story if I may :)

I knew two people who were great buddies. They had this long-running joke that both of their mothers were a bit ... touched :p So each time they saw each other, they had to make a light-hearted remark about the broomstick that the other had bought for their mother or a new ouija board etc etc. Well as the joke wore on, the comments got gradually more and more barbed because well, using the same one-liner just isn't very funny.

This went on for ages until one day one of them said something like the town would be a better place without the other's mother. They haven't spoken to each other since. :(

Then you get those who like to dish it out but can't take it.
Don't talk about your fellow countrymen like that, you'll get branded as anti-American

I'd like to tell a true story if I may :)

I knew two people who were great buddies. They had this long-running joke that both of their mothers were a bit ... touched :p So each time they saw each other, they had to make a light-hearted remark about the broomstick that the other had bought for their mother or a new ouija board etc etc. Well as the joke wore on, the comments got gradually more and more barbed because well, using the same one-liner just isn't very funny.

This went on for ages until one day one of them said something like the town would be a better place without the other's mother. They haven't spoken to each other since. :(

So what if one guy told the other that things were getting a little brash and the other guy kept making the negative remarks? Should the first guy simply ignore the them?

Well as the joke wore on, the comments got gradually more and more barbed because well, using the same one-liner just isn't very funny.


So what if one guy told the other that things were getting a little brash and the other guy kept making the negative remarks? Should the first guy simply ignore the them?

Looks like the ongoing joke is based on a trauma. To avoid situations were two or more people relationships might crash, I would suggest to cut out the trauma first ( Therapy or so ?). As an alternative you might change the subject of the joke, which will refresh the situation temporarely, but wil not lift the sting of the "wall" between the two parties.

Just my 2 € cts

So what if one guy told the other that things were getting a little brash and the other guy kept making the negative remarks? Should the first guy simply ignore the them?

I don't know, all I know is that the one guy wanted out of the situation while the other was quite happy with it.

So what if one guy told the other that things were getting a little brash and the other guy kept making the negative remarks? Should the first guy simply ignore the them?
How can you comment if they're not your friends?:confused:

Here I am again Bashing Richie Boy personally.

That's right Richard, this comment is directed at you, and you alone. Because I have listened to all of the other Brits, Europeans, Australians, and the rest, to know they are a fairly open minded group

With one exception.

You.

So I'm thinking that maybe tomorrow you might prove me wrong.

I think you're a shallow minded, bitter old man with nothing better to do in your life than dream about former British glory. And furthermore if you had a single gram of honor you would admit that you do this out of spite and jealousy.

Now I know nothing of the sort will be forthcoming; so I offer a compromise. Just try to refrain from bashing Americans or Christians for one miserable little day.

I'm sure everyone here would appreciate it.

For everyone else; I apologize for attacking Rich personally.

But not enough to take it back.



I wonder why this post was deleted and Americans say they're the most polite people on the forum:rolleyes:

I wonder why this post was deleted and Americans say they're the most polite people on the forum:rolleyes:

I never said I was among the most polite people on the forum. :confused:

I wonder why this post was deleted and Americans say they're the most polite people on the forum:rolleyes:
It was deleted because i decided not to post it.

It was deleted because i decided not to post it.

Looks like he must be out making a run to the liquor store ;)

I never said I was among the most polite people on the forum. :confused:
No Wooley said it:rolleyes:

No Wooley said it:rolleyes:

But you said Americans say it. :confused:

But you said Americans say it. :confused:

Given that the majority of the posters in the Watercooler tend to be - from what I've seen - American, Canadian, British and Australian, Americans would be perfectly entitled to say it as would the other three. :confused:

But you said Americans say it. :confused:
He was backed up by his side kick Josephine

He was backed up by his side kick Josephine

They are a formidable tag team for you and Col to spar with :D

They are a formidable tag team for you and Col to spar with :D
But they're losing at the minute:cool:

But they're losing at the minute:cool:
Loosing what, our breath laughing so hard.

Loosing what, our breath laughing so hard.
Stop listening to Bush's speeches then

They are a formidable tag team for you and Col to spar with :D

They (all four of them) obviously don't have enough work to do :D

Stop listening to Bush's speeches then
I don't listen to his speeches.

I don't listen to his speeches.
No, from the composition of your posts here one concludes that you actually write them for him