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FoFa
01-10-2007, 09:17 AM
The Democrats now promise "A New Direction for America"

The stock market is at a new all-time high and America's 401K's are back. A new direction from there means, what?

Unemployment is at 25 year lows. A new direction from there means, what?

Oil prices are down sharply. A new direction from there means, what?

Taxes are at 20 year lows. A new direction from there means, what?

Federal tax cuts are at all-time highs. A new direction from there means, what?

The Federal deficit is down almost 50%, just as predicted over last year. A new direction from there means. what?

Home valuations are up 200% over the past 3.5 years. A new direction from there means, what?

Inflation is in check, hovering at 20 year lows. A new direction from there means, what?

Not a single terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11/01. A new direction from there means, what?

Osama bin Laden is living under a rock in a dark cave, having not surfaced in years, if he's alive at all, while 95% of Al Queda's top dogs are either dead or in custody, cooperating with US Intel. A new direction from there means, what?

Several major terrorist attacks already thwarted by US and British Intel, including the recent planned attack involving 10 Jumbo Jets being exploded in mid-air over major US cities in order to celebrate the anniversary of the 9/11/01 attacks. A new direction from there means, what?

Just as President Bush foretold us on a number of occasions, Iraq was to be made "ground zero" for the war on terrorism -- and just as President Bush said they would, terrorist cells from all over the region are arriving from the shadows of their hiding places and flooding into Iraq in order to get their faces blown off by US Marines rather than boarding planes and heading to the United States to wage war on us here. A new direction from there means, what?

Now let me see, do I have this right? I can expect:


The economy to go South
Illegals to go North
Taxes to go Up
Employment to go Down
Terrorism to come In
Tax breaks to go Out
Social Security to go Away
Health Care to go the same way gas prices have gone
But what the heck!

I can gain comfort by knowing that Nancy P, Hillory C, John K, Edward K, Howard D, Harry R and Obama have worked hard to create a comprehensive National Security Plan, Health Care Plan, Immigration Reform Plan, Gay Rights Plan, Same Sex Marriage Plan, Abortion On Demand Plan, Tolerance of Everyone and Everything Plan, How to Return all Troops to the U.S. in The Next Six Months Plan, A Get Tough Plan, adapted from the French Plan by the same name and a How Everyone Can Become as Wealthy as We Are Plan.

I forgot the No More Katrina Storm Plan.

Now I know why I feel good after the elections. I am going to be able to sleep so much better at nights knowing these dedicated politicians are thinking of me and my welfare.

Latest Email circulating thingy.
Now as with any of these, there is a grain of truth to it, but also many flaws. I just found it humorous.

Bodisathva
01-10-2007, 09:21 AM
Now let me see, do I have this right? I can expect:
...at least two more years of Republican whining :D

Jakboi
01-10-2007, 09:43 AM
Speaking of this, have a article here and will take some text out:

What’s new:

This is the first time in 54 years that the
Democrats have recaptured both the US Senate and
the House of Representatives simultaneously. The
potential impacts on the US economy and financial
markets should not be minimized

Conclusions:

The Democrats are assuming power at
a point in time when the returns to capital are at
historical highs and the rewards to labor are at more
than 40-year lows. There is a good chance that the
pendulum of economic power could swing from capital
back to labor in the years ahead. Look for early
Congressional action on several fronts — increased
minimum wages, tax hikes on the oil industry, and
focus on the excesses of executive compensation. An
intensification of protectionist pressures is also a
distinct possibility.

Market implications:

The movie of the past six years
could start to run in reverse. The stock market could
be adversely affected by the earnings implications of
pro-labor shifts. Reflecting fears of protectionism and
mounting labor cost pressures, the bond market could
be hurt by perceived risks to inflation.

Risks:

Protectionism is the biggest risk.
Congressional intensification of China bashing could hit
the US dollar hard — especially if China responds by
reducing its appetite for dollar-denominated assets.

Yay CANT WAIT!!!!

Rich
01-10-2007, 11:26 AM
Just as President Bush foretold us on a number of occasions, Iraq was to be made "ground zero" for the war on terrorism -- and just as President Bush said they would, terrorist cells from all over the region are arriving from the shadows of their hiding places and flooding into Iraq in order to get their faces blown off by US Marines rather than boarding planes and heading to the United States to wage war on us here.


The most arrogant and contemptuous post I've read here from an American in some time:mad:

And you wonder why even your allies want nothing more to do with the US and the rest of the world hates you:rolleyes:

KalelGmoon
01-10-2007, 11:39 AM
you did read the whole thing didn't you Rich? there is a disclaimer type at the bottom saying basically he did not write it and it is going around in email. he also said some fact a lot of flaws, he just posted it to be humorous.:)

Rich
01-10-2007, 11:47 AM
you did read the whole thing didn't you Rich? there is a disclaimer type at the bottom saying basically he did not write it and it is going around in email. he also said some fact a lot of flaws, he just posted it to be humorous.:)
You'll forgive me I'm sure for not finding the deaths of countless thousands around the world thanks to Uncle Sam as being the least bit humorous:mad:

Adeptus
01-10-2007, 07:30 PM
Just as President Bush foretold us on a number of occasions, Iraq was to be made "ground zero" for the war on terrorism -- and just as President Bush said they would, terrorist cells from all over the region are arriving from the shadows of their hiding places and flooding into Iraq in order to get their faces blown off by US Marines rather than boarding planes and heading to the United States to wage war on us here.
Oh really, that was the plan all along?
So it wasn't the fictional WMD's, it was shifting the battleground from (potentially) USA to Iraq?

Rich
01-10-2007, 11:29 PM
The night those first bombs dropped(remember "Shock and Awe" Cool huh!) I prayed for the discovery of those WMD's. Then I prayed for the link to 9/11. Then I prayed for common sense. It was to late by then.
So many innocent lives killed. destroyed, in the blink of an eye. Why? Where is the link to anything this administration claimed? They have had what, four years now to correct this. And now they want to send even MORE men and women into this quagmire of death and destruction. And for how long? Another four years? maybe five? Six?
No Mr.President, you have had plenty of time. the whole world is screaming for something else to be done. You are choosing not to listen. You are choosing more bombs, more death. You are inviting more terrorism into this and other countrys. Why, because you think you know better? Your arrogance is egregious.
Please, just step away from the podium. Go back to Texas. Haven't you done enough?



Taken from an American blog, what a shame there isn't a great deal more of the same level of intelligence in the U.S.

ColinEssex
01-11-2007, 12:29 AM
I see that Mr Bush's answer is to send a further 20,000 troops to Iraq. That means at least 500+ will be going to their death. Never to see home or their children again - Nice one George.

The UK (I read yesterday) is due to pull out 5,000 troops from Iraq by May. (odd I can't find a ref for it though)

A question or two - why is the USA so hell bent on changing countries way of life to the "USA way"? why can't the USA just leave people alone?

I think thats what gets up peoples noses - the huge arrogance of the USA to do what it likes and sod everyone else. Then they inevitably screw it up and make things 100 times worse for everyone.

In almost any UK satire show, a guaranteed laugh is about the USA - it seems the USA is totally one big joke here, its always on TV or in the papers, satire about America, Americans, GWB - anything American is a huge joke. Sadly, thousands die for the cause and yet the USA still can't see it.

There was a US anti-war rally on the news last night, only 100 or 2 people turned up, indicating the lack of interest by the US people.

Col

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:38 AM
There was a US anti-war rally on the news last night, only 100 or 2 people turned up, indicating the lack of interest by the US people.

Col
That's because they're branded as unpatriotic, anti-American, political activists etc by the state and other Americans. I mean Americans are taught from the age of three that only the American state matters and it's unpatriotic to demonstrate against it

Bodisathva
01-11-2007, 03:06 AM
You'll forgive me I'm sure for not finding the deaths of countless thousands around the world thanks to Uncle Sam as being the least bit humorous:mad:Just as, I'm certain, we "Yanks" forgive you for the deaths of countless thousands of threads around these forums :rolleyes:

Rich
01-11-2007, 03:16 AM
Just as, I'm certain, we "Yanks" forgive you for the deaths of countless thousands of threads around these forums :rolleyes:
Funny how you see intelligent thought as causing "death":rolleyes:

ColinEssex
01-11-2007, 03:16 AM
Just as, I'm certain, we "Yanks" forgive you for the deaths of countless thousands of threads around these forums :rolleyes:
Nice you equate the innocent deaths of children, families etc as the same as postings on the forum. Just shows how little importance one American puts on human life - you should run for president, he doesn't care how many he kills either

Col

Bodisathva
01-11-2007, 04:37 AM
Funny how you see intelligent thought as causing "death":rolleyes:...I'll let you know when I see one:rolleyes:

Nice you equate the innocent deaths of children, families etc as the same as postings on the forum. Just shows how little importance one American puts on human life - you should run for president, he doesn't care how many he kills eitherThat's not what I meant and you f@#$%&g know it. I do not, however, have the inclination to be baited this morning, just to (and I have no clue why I continue to try) point out the tiredness of hearing you two go on and on and on like that little pink bunny that sells the batteries.

jsanders
01-11-2007, 04:50 AM
...I'll let you know when I see one:rolleyes:

That's not what I meant and you f@#$%&g know it. I do not, however, have the inclination to be baited this morning, just to (and I have no clue why I continue to try) point out the tiredness of hearing you two go on and on and on like that little pink bunny that sells the batteries.

Why are you picking on that poor bunny?

Bodisathva
01-11-2007, 04:53 AM
Why are you picking on that poor bunny?Sorry, J.

I figured after slaughtering all those women and children, no one would notice:o

Rich
01-11-2007, 04:54 AM
...

That's not what I meant and you f@#$%&g know it. I do not, however, have the inclination to be baited this morning, just to (and I have no clue why I continue to try) point out the tiredness of hearing you two go on and on and on like that little pink bunny that sells the batteries.

Then why post this pile of f&%$£*g crap to start with:rolleyes:
We are equally tired of reading this sh*t!:mad:

Jakboi
01-11-2007, 06:35 AM
I see that Mr Bush's answer is to send a further 20,000 troops to Iraq. That means at least 500+ will be going to their death. Never to see home or their children again - Nice one George.

The UK (I read yesterday) is due to pull out 5,000 troops from Iraq by May. (odd I can't find a ref for it though)

A question or two - why is the USA so hell bent on changing countries way of life to the "USA way"? why can't the USA just leave people alone?

I think thats what gets up peoples noses - the huge arrogance of the USA to do what it likes and sod everyone else. Then they inevitably screw it up and make things 100 times worse for everyone.

In almost any UK satire show, a guaranteed laugh is about the USA - it seems the USA is totally one big joke here, its always on TV or in the papers, satire about America, Americans, GWB - anything American is a huge joke. Sadly, thousands die for the cause and yet the USA still can't see it.

There was a US anti-war rally on the news last night, only 100 or 2 people turned up, indicating the lack of interest by the US people.

Col

Europe is still pretty lost to this idea. This is a problem of terrorists and radical islam. If you think that if the US was not in the Middle East the problem would just vanish? If so then you are incredible mistake and havent taken your own terrorist attacks very serious.

If we dont fight them there...then it will be on our own door steps. You cannot negotiate with terrorists...that is a fundamental rule that is known throughout the world.

Once you do that, then you set yourself up for more terrorists doing bad things and demanding ransoms. You cannot reward bad behaviour with good posturing.

If yo care to remember. Europe tried already to appease the enemy and that lead nowhere. But obviously you dont learn from the past or from mistakes or from history.

"The British and French governments followed a policy of appeasement in order to avoid a new European war. This was partially due to doubts about the willingness of their populations to fight another war so soon after the huge death tolls of the first World War..." Read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war_2)

You think if we just leave Iraq then the world issues with radical islam and terrorists disapppears? Do you think that had we not gone into Iraq then the problem would be solved? Your mistaken.

This is a idealogy that we are fighting. Similiar to the ideology of Facism and communism. Europe tried to appease the Germans, but that was a waste of time.

The problem is not going away. You cant just sit there and appease everyone. What are you goin to say?

Please dont attack are subways anymore...please? If you dont we will give you money and you can have citizenship? Europes problem is that is has gotten extremely weak. The terrorists love to Terrorize. They know that Europe is weak and is a afraid of war and afraid of confrontation. They know that. They love that. That is what they do.

American on the other hand is one of the few countries that actually puts words into action. They know that if they attack us we are goin to attack them. What did Britain do when the subways were attack? Do they think that is was just a issue locally in that country? That was planned by terrorists and cells in that country if I recall correctly.

Lets not forget we are there because terrorits attacked us. Ask Why?

They had a place to plan, plot and deliver their ideas. The govts of Afghanistan and Iraq allowed this. That is not goin to happen in our books.

That is allowing an enemy to attack from your country via proxy, like Hezbollah does. They do Irans dirty work.

So sitback and hope things get better by negoiating with terrorists and click your heels 3 times and maybe they will just give up. They attacked our buildings from the Middle East...which shows that our vast oceans on both coasts didnt do much.

If these countries had stable strong govts that were democracies...then the problem could almost be eradicated...no more terror attacks, or it would be really really difficult.

What is Britains plan to stop terrorism?

"Those who forget the past are deemed to repeat it"

Rich
01-11-2007, 07:14 AM
Europe is still pretty lost to this idea. This is a problem of terrorists and radical islam. If you think that if the US was not in the Middle East the problem would just vanish? If so then you are incredible mistake and havent taken your own terrorist attacks very serious.


Where were the terrorists in Iraq when Bush and Bliar decided to invade it?:rolleyes:

Brianwarnock
01-11-2007, 07:16 AM
Strange that I've never read anywhere of anybody linking terrorists to Iraq before the invasion, infact quite the opposite.
Perhaps you can post links.

Brian

And I think Iraq was a secular society, definitly not a home for radical Islam, even if for the wrong reasons.

FoFa
01-11-2007, 08:07 AM
http://www.milnet.com/pentagon/centcom/iraq/Iraq-groups-prior.html

Jakboi
01-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Where were the terrorists in Iraq when Bush and Bliar decided to invade it?:rolleyes:

Saddam had to go and this is the front on the war on terror. We have chased them out of Afghansitan and Iraq for the most part...they have tried to move to Somalia and got pushed out by Ethopians along with US gun ships...

Well heres some progress...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-06-08-al-zarqawi-airstrike_x.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/26/alqaeda.book/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211960,00.html

Jakboi
01-11-2007, 08:11 AM
http://www.milnet.com/pentagon/centcom/iraq/Iraq-groups-prior.html

Nice never seen that.

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 08:28 AM
We are equally tired of reading this sh*t!:mad:

So then why didn't you quit reading it (and responding) ages ago? :confused: :p

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 08:35 AM
Strange that I've never read anywhere of anybody linking terrorists to Iraq before the invasion, infact quite the opposite.
Perhaps you can post links.

I thought the main thing with Iraq was that everyone was certain (:rolleyes: ) ahead of time that they had WMD, which was heightened by the fact that Saddam denied the UN investigators access at every turn. It makes me wonder if they really didn't have any WMD, why he didn't cooperate more fully with the UN team. It would have made it a lot harder for anyone to justify invading his country. :rolleyes:

Jakboi
01-11-2007, 09:55 AM
I thought the main thing with Iraq was that everyone was certain (:rolleyes: ) ahead of time that they had WMD, which was heightened by the fact that Saddam denied the UN investigators access at every turn. It makes me wonder if they really didn't have any WMD, why he didn't cooperate more fully with the UN team. It would have made it a lot harder for anyone to justify invading his country. :rolleyes:

Plus he may still be alive, but he's better off dead. I thought they beleived he moved the weapons out...but who knows.

Kraj
01-11-2007, 10:24 AM
Now as with any of these, there is a grain of truth to it, but also many flaws. I just found it humorous.
Indeed. For me the humor was found in the absurdity of the logic. ...Why, of course the Democrats intend to undo everything good going for the country. Isn't that what every leader means when they talk about change? :rolleyes:

It makes me wonder if they really didn't have any WMD, why he didn't cooperate more fully with the UN team. It would have made it a lot harder for anyone to justify invading his country. :rolleyes:
Granted this is pretty much a guess but... he was obviously a megalomaniac, control freak, power-hungry bastard, etc. He also had an inflated sense of grandeur... He really thought he would get away with invading Kuwait. He really thought he was calling the US's bluff in '03. He really thought he had the leverage to negotiate when he was captured.

My guess is that to him it would have been a sign of incredible weakness to acquiesce to the UN's demands. In a way it would be handing over rulership of Iraq.

Even if it wasn't like that, what if it was something as simple as an invasion of privacy? I mean, would you be inclined to let the police sift through your home without a warrant whenever they felt like it just because you had nothing to hide?

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 11:13 AM
I mean, would you be inclined to let the police sift through your home without a warrant whenever they felt like it just because you had nothing to hide?

Well...if I invaded another country without provocation I probably deserve that treatment, like it or not. :)

Rich
01-11-2007, 11:19 AM
Saddam had to go
Why, because he upset ol cross eye's daddy?:confused: :mad:
Bush and Bliar had absolutely no justification for this action he was no longer a threat whilst the no fly zones were enforced. The UK and the rest of the alliance were prepared to carry on for as long as required. The invasion of Iraq was fought for one reason and one reason only, OIL!:mad:

Rich
01-11-2007, 11:21 AM
he was obviously a megalomaniac, control freak, power-hungry bastard, etc. He also had an inflated sense of grandeur...
No different to Bush then:rolleyes:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 11:47 AM
Where were the terrorists in Iraq when Bush and Bliar decided to invade it?:rolleyes:

Being groomed in British mosques I suspect :eek:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 11:52 AM
Nice you equate the innocent deaths of children, families etc as the same as postings on the forum. Just shows how little importance one American puts on human life - you should run for president, he doesn't care how many he kills either

Col

I have to say this is pretty damn insulting :mad:

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:01 PM
Being groomed in British mosques I suspect :eek:
Now that's what makes Americans so dangerous, they keep jumping to the wrong conclusions. They were groomed in Pakistan, by your reckoning every muslim in this country is a potential terrorist

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:01 PM
I have to say this is pretty damn insulting :mad:
Which bit?:confused:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:02 PM
There was a US anti-war rally on the news last night, only 100 or 2 people turned up, indicating the lack of interest by the US people.

Col

There was a huge shift of power from the Republican party the other month, indicating that your supposition is worthless :rolleyes:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:03 PM
Now that's what makes Americans so dangerous, they keep jumping to the wrong conclusions. They were groomed in Pakistan, by your reckoning every muslim in this country is a potential terrorist

Where does saying that terrorists were being groomed in British mosques equate to saying every British muslim is a terrorist? :confused:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:04 PM
Now that's what makes Americans so dangerous, they keep jumping to the wrong conclusions. They were groomed in Pakistan, by your reckoning every muslim in this country is a potential terrorist

No idea what's going (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4690224.stm) on in your own country do you :rolleyes:

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:05 PM
Where does saying that terrorists were being groomed in British mosques equate to saying every British muslim is a terrorist? :confused:
Because all British muslims attend British mosques so one has to conclude from his statement that British mosques must be a haven for terrorists

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:05 PM
by your reckoning every muslim in this country is a potential terrorist

...is this faulty logic day or what :confused:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:06 PM
Because all British muslims attend British mosques so one has to conclude from his statement that British mosques must be a haven for terrorists

Where did I use the term "all" :rolleyes:

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:07 PM
No idea what's going (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4690224.stm) on in your own country do you :rolleyes:
One man :rolleyes:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:08 PM
One man :rolleyes:

Preaching to how many?

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:08 PM
Where did I use the term "all" :rolleyes:

This almost gets comical at times. :D

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:12 PM
...is this faulty logic day or what :confused:
You used the word mosques, plural, means many or all.
So far you've only produced one link to one lunatic in this country.

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:12 PM
One man :rolleyes:

and his mosque (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4689816.stm)

Wakey wakey!

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:15 PM
and his mosque (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4689816.stm)

Wakey wakey!
ONE mosque, American logic:rolleyes:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:16 PM
You used the word mosques, plural, means many or all.
So far you've only produced one link to one lunatic in this country.

I'm speechless to your ignorance on this (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1984530,00.html)

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:21 PM
I'm speechless to your ignorance on this (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1984530,00.html)
I took a lesson from America visa-vis Farenheit 9/11:rolleyes:

KalelGmoon
01-11-2007, 12:22 PM
You used the word mosques, plural, means many or all.
So far you've only produced one link to one lunatic in this country.

actually the plural just means more than one, and the story also said he spoke at mosques in several areas, so the logic is correct as it is more than one mosque he spoke at.

David Perry, prosecuting, told the court that Abu Hamza made clear encouragements to kill when he gave lectures and sermons at the Finsbury Park mosque and in Luton, Blackburn and Whitechapel, east London.

unless that big long last sentence is one name of course

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:26 PM
Hey you Americans train your own to be terrorists too
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/mcveigh/dawning_1.html
:rolleyes:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:28 PM
This almost gets comical at times. :D

Getting likened to a xenophobe by someone who bitches 24/7 about one country and one country only is very comical :D

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:29 PM
Hey you Americans train your own to be terrorists too
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/mcveigh/dawning_1.html
:rolleyes:

The strawman argument was only a matter of time :D

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:30 PM
Hey you Americans train your own to be terrorists too
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/mcveigh/dawning_1.html
:rolleyes:

But we weren't talking about us, we were talking about you, silly. ;) :p

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:33 PM
But we weren't talking about us, we were talking about you, silly. ;) :p

And by "you" we mean "you" as a society. :D :D

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:34 PM
And by "you" we mean "you" as a society. :D :D

Naturally, because we're not anti-British. :D

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:35 PM
And by "you" we mean "you" as a society. :D :D
I don't need clarification, I'm not American and therefore didn't jump to such a paranoid conclusion in the first place

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:38 PM
Naturally, because we're not anti-British. :D

Of course not, forgive and forget and all that :p

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:39 PM
I'm not American

I'm sorry to hear that :( :p

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:40 PM
I'm sorry to hear that :( :p

It's a shame. :D

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:43 PM
Of course not, forgive and forget and all that :p

Of course, in the interest of remaining friendly and non-judgemental. :D

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:44 PM
It's a shame. :D

A damn shame :D :D

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:45 PM
Of course, in the interest of remaining friendly and non-judgemental. :D

Yes it wasn't your fault we don't like tea :p

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm sorry to hear that :( :p
You needn't be, I'm not in the least bit sorry

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:47 PM
You needn't be, I'm not in the least bit sorry

Ignorance is bliss ;)

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:47 PM
A damn shame :D :D

Of course, never having experienced it he can't possibly know what he's missing. :p

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:48 PM
Ignorance is bliss ;)

Ha, you beat me to it. :D

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:51 PM
Ha, you beat me to it. :D

I'm being a bit of a smart-ass today :p Think I better quit while I'm ahead :)

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:52 PM
I'm being a bit of a smart-ass today :p Think I better quit while I'm ahead :)

Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. It's almost quittin' time anyway. I better do some real work. :eek:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:53 PM
Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. It's almost quittin' time anyway. I better do some real work. :eek:

Finished all mine for today 2 hours ago. :cool:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 12:55 PM
Finished all mine for today 2 hours ago. :cool:

Lucky you. Unfortunately I've been working on the neverending project, an Access database, naturally. :cool:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:56 PM
Lucky you. Unfortunately I've been working on the neverending project, an Access database, naturally. :cool:

I haven't worked on one of them for years, are they still around :p In fact why the hell do I hang out here :confused:

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:58 PM
Ignorance is bliss ;)
How can I be ignorant, I'm not American:confused:

Rich
01-11-2007, 12:59 PM
I'm being a bit of a smart-ass today :p Think I better quit while I'm ahead :)
Where do you think you're ahead?:confused: :rolleyes:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 12:59 PM
How can I be ignorant, I'm not American:confused:

You just said Tony Blair wasn't ignorant :eek:

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Where do you think you're ahead?:confused: :rolleyes:

I told you ignorance was bliss ;)

Rich
01-11-2007, 01:00 PM
You just said Tony Blair wasn't ignorant :eek:
No I didn't, he's an American puppet:rolleyes:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 01:01 PM
In fact why the hell do I hang out here :confused:

For the endearing personalities, of course. :rolleyes:

Well, some of us are anyway. :cool:

Rich
01-11-2007, 01:02 PM
I told you ignorance was bliss ;)
Depends on the topic:cool:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 01:03 PM
No I didn't, he's an American puppet:rolleyes:

You said you weren't American and therefore you couldn't be ignorant, implying that anyone who isn't American is incapable of being ignorant. Hence, Tony Blair is not ignorant. :eek: :cool:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Depends on the topic:cool:

Like marriage? :eek:

Rich
01-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Well, some of us are anyway. :cool:
Thank you:)

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 01:05 PM
Thank you:)

:D Don't mention it. :cool:

Rich
01-11-2007, 01:08 PM
You said you weren't American and therefore you couldn't be ignorant, implying that anyone who isn't American is incapable of being ignorant. Hence, Tony Blair is not ignorant. :eek: :cool:
Well now, based on your criteria for denying that Daniella was accusing all Muslims of terrorism, that can't be true

Rich
01-11-2007, 01:09 PM
:D Don't mention it. :cool:
But I'm polite and therefore felt honour bound to do so:cool:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 01:10 PM
Well now, based on your criteria for denying that Daniella was accusing all Muslims of terrorism, that can't be true

He just said mosques, plural, not ALL mosques. :cool:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 01:10 PM
But I'm polite and therefore felt honour bound to do so:cool:

I'll keep that in mind for future reference. :p

Rich
01-11-2007, 01:16 PM
He just said mosques, plural, not ALL mosques. :cool:
And I said American, singular:cool:

MrsGorilla
01-11-2007, 01:41 PM
And I said American, singular:cool:

American is plural. If you had said you weren't AN American, that would be singular. :D

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 03:04 PM
And I said American, singular:cool:

You used 'American' as an adjective not a noun.

Either that or your grasp of prepositions is a little lacking. :p

"I'm Briton, you Jane" :D

dan-cat
01-11-2007, 03:35 PM
Well now, based on your criteria for denying that Daniella was accusing all Muslims of terrorism, that can't be true

Nonsense, you said being American and being non-ignorant was mutually exclusive.

I never said that British mosques inherently groom muslims. Just that terrorists get groomed in British mosques.


If this statement wasn't true and some terrorists were groomed in some British mosques (which they have been by the way), where were they groomed? :confused:

You have to insert the term "all mosques" in my statement for your argument to work. But that isn't what I said is it? ;)

Rich
01-11-2007, 10:43 PM
You used 'American' as an adjective not a noun.


A·mer·i·can (ə-mĕr'ĭ-kən)
adj.
Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples.
Indigenous to North or South America. Used of plants and animals.
n.

Hmm, paranoia, jumping to conclusions

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 01:09 AM
That's not what I meant and you f@#$%&g know it.
Hmmm, odd response Bod, and there's no need for expletives I'm sure.
Rich said
You'll forgive me I'm sure for not finding the deaths of countless thousands around the world thanks to Uncle Sam as being the least bit humorous
You said
Just as, I'm certain, we "Yanks" forgive you for the deaths of countless thousands of threads around these forums
As I said, the linking of innocent deaths by the USA is now equated with the "deaths of countless thousands of threads" - You can't make it much clearer how you think about innocent deaths - thats why you should be president, he doesn't care who he kills to get to the oil.
In fact, re-reading your reply, you say "we Yanks" - therefore speaking for all Americans - you must be wrong though, there must be some Americans who have feelings.

Col

Bodisathva
01-12-2007, 03:19 AM
blah, blah, blah...since it's really what your after, I find it much more satisfying to deny you the pleasure of the argument.:p

...and, incidently, any furtherance of this one.

...thats why you should be presidentfrom now on, you shall address me as "Mr. President":cool:

Rich
01-12-2007, 04:06 AM
I find it much more satisfying to deny you the pleasure of the argument.:p


That's because you don't have an argument, at least not one that's meritorious


from now on, you shall address me as "Mr. President":cool
wouldn't address the current one as such or an imposter

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 04:22 AM
A·mer·i·can (ə-mĕr'ĭ-kən)
adj.
Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples.
Indigenous to North or South America. Used of plants and animals.
n.

Hmm, paranoia, jumping to conclusions

If you used it as an adjective then it can't be singular.
If you used it as a noun then you were talking like Tarzan.

Take your pick.

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 04:23 AM
from now on, you shall address me as "Mr. President":cool:
Only if you're willing to send people to their death with no concience, ignore reasonable advice, be a pig headed idiot who can't speak properly, screw up the world big-time and care nothing for anyone except yourself and your bank balance - can you do all that? The fact you are American is a good start.

Col

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 04:55 AM
The fact you are American is a good start.

Col

I'm not saying that you have any, but you do realise that you are insulting any American friend you may have, don't you?

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 04:58 AM
Hmm, paranoia, jumping to conclusions

The good news is, is that you're not American so you don't have to be ignorant of your grammatical failings. Pity it takes an American to point them out to you though isn't it ;) Kind of throws your suppositions out of the window really :D

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 05:02 AM
I'm not saying that you have any, but you do realise that you are insulting any American friend you may have, don't you?
I was under the impression the President of the USA had to be American. Bod is American isn't he? Whats your problem now Daniella?

Or is it now insulting to call an American "American" - I know you've all been told to say you're Canadian when out of the USA - can you update us all on the latest please?

Col

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 05:09 AM
I was under the impression the President of the USA had to be American. Bod is American isn't he? Whats your problem now Daniella?

Or is it now insulting to call an American "American" - I know you've all been told to say you're Canadian when out of the USA - can you update us all on the latest please?

Col

Do you actually understand what you write :confused:

I've already lectured Rich on his grammatical failings. Can't you learn from his mistakes ;)

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 05:13 AM
Do you actually understand what you write :confused:

I've already lectured Rich on his grammatical failings. Can't you learn from his mistakes ;)
You'll need to spell it out please?

The fact you are American is a good start.

Col


I'm not saying that you have any, but you do realise that you are insulting any American friend you may have, don't you?

Ok, I'm ready to read your nitpicking response

Col

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 05:21 AM
You'll need to spell it out please?

Well there's your first grammatical error, putting a question mark at the end of a non-enquiring statement. Making it non-sensical.

Is it time for your afternoon nap? :confused:

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 05:28 AM
Well there's your first grammatical error, putting a question mark at the end of a non-enquiring statement. Making it non-sensical.

Is it time for your afternoon nap? :confused:
ah, I see now. You have no problem with my original statement, you are just being difficult for the sake of it.

I trust you will be equally nitpicking of your American colleagues who are grammatically challenged? I have to say, if spelling was a criteria for world domination, the USA would fail miserably judging by the US postings on these forums.

Col

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 05:40 AM
you are just being difficult for the sake of it.

We're not so different you and I :p

I trust you will be equally nitpicking of your American colleagues who are grammatically challenged?

Being inherently ignorant they have a valid excuse, what's yours? :confused:

Rich
01-12-2007, 05:40 AM
If you used it as a noun then you were talking like Tarzan.

Take your pick.
You obviously didn't read the definition posted:rolleyes:

Rich
01-12-2007, 05:43 AM
- I know you've all been told to say you're Canadian when out of the USA - Col
That's because Bush has made the world safe for them:eek: :rolleyes:

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 05:46 AM
You obviously didn't read the definition posted:rolleyes:

You posted four, all of which were adjectives, all of which cannot be singular.

Next!

Rich
01-12-2007, 05:47 AM
You posted four, all of which were adjectives, all of which cannot be singular.

Next!
A West Indian could, Next!

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 05:51 AM
A West Indian could, Next!

The word "Indian" in this sentence is a noun not an adjective :rolleyes:

Can we stop this? Your argument is doomed. ;)

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 05:58 AM
We're not so different you and I :p
oh god, I'm gonna top myself - the thought of being like a Yank. . . . . . http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-011.gif

Col

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 06:00 AM
oh god, I'm gonna top myself - the thought of being like a Yank. . . . . . http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-011.gif

Col

You'll have to be less "pig-headed" in the future then won't you? :eek: :p

Rich
01-12-2007, 06:00 AM
The word "Indian" in this sentence is a noun not an adjective :rolleyes:

Can we stop this? Your argument is doomed. ;)
Are you sure it's not a possessive noun?

Rich
01-12-2007, 06:01 AM
You'll have to be less "pig-headed" in the future then won't you? :eek: :p
ROFL, a Yank lecturing on pig headed:rolleyes:

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 06:06 AM
Are you sure it's not a possessive noun?

Your four definitions did not include a possessive noun.

If you would like me to instruct you on possessives as well as adjectives and nouns then just let me know, I'll try and fit you in :rolleyes:

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 06:08 AM
ROFL, a Yank lecturing on pig headed:rolleyes:

It was supposed to be a light-hearted comment but I see you're not in the mood ;)

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 06:09 AM
You'll have to be less "pig-headed" in the future then won't you? :eek: :p
Just because you refuse to believe the truth does not make me "pig-headed". And its nice that you class some of your American colleagues as "inherently ignorant" - I personally wouldn't have gone that far but I suppose you would know best about ignorant Yanks.

Col

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 06:16 AM
Just because you refuse to believe the truth does not make me "pig-headed".

Which one? :confused: You espouse so many in a single day :rolleyes:

And its nice that you class some of your American colleagues as "inherently ignorant" - I personally wouldn't have gone that far but I suppose you would know best about ignorant Yanks.


It was Rich who told me. As it came from him, I was compelled to believe it as a truth ;)

KalelGmoon
01-12-2007, 06:19 AM
oh god, I'm gonna top myself - the thought of being like a Yank. . . . . . http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-011.gif

Col

Judging by the smilie am going to assume top yourself means either you are gonna vomit or your going to euthanise yourself.

Just because you refuse to believe the truth does not make me "pig-headed". And its nice that you class some of your American colleagues as "inherently ignorant" - I personally wouldn't have gone that far but I suppose you would know best about ignorant Yanks.

Col


I think Col, Dan was referring to the earlier comment by Rich about how all Americans are ignorant. but then I could be mistaken. you never know

Rich
01-12-2007, 06:25 AM
to the earlier comment by Rich about how all Americans are ignorant.
Where was that?:confused:

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 06:29 AM
Where was that?:confused:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/mariras/puss-in-boots.gif

ColinEssex
01-12-2007, 06:30 AM
Judging by the smilie am going to assume top yourself means either you are gonna vomit or your going to euthanise yourself.

The comment that I could be like an American made me throw up, now I'll top myself, I can't live with the shame and embarrasment

Col

KalelGmoon
01-12-2007, 06:38 AM
Where was that?:confused:

what have you and Dan been discussing back and forth for the last day or so?

dan-cat
01-12-2007, 06:40 AM
what have you and Dan been discussing back and forth for the last day or so?

Has it really been that long? Man, I need to go and do some work :eek: :p

Rich
01-12-2007, 06:45 AM
what have you and Dan been discussing back and forth for the last day or so?
Semantics and American paranoia

MrsGorilla
01-12-2007, 07:24 AM
ah, I see now. You have no problem with my original statement, you are just being difficult for the sake of it.

I trust you will be equally nitpicking of your American colleagues who are grammatically challenged? I have to say, if spelling was a criteria for world domination, the USA would fail miserably judging by the US postings on these forums.

Col

We're not the ones who constantly have to remind people how highly educated we are, remember? ;)

Jakboi
01-12-2007, 08:43 AM
I see that Mr Bush's answer is to send a further 20,000 troops to Iraq. That means at least 500+ will be going to their death. Never to see home or their children again - Nice one George.

The UK (I read yesterday) is due to pull out 5,000 troops from Iraq by May. (odd I can't find a ref for it though)

A question or two - why is the USA so hell bent on changing countries way of life to the "USA way"? why can't the USA just leave people alone?

I think thats what gets up peoples noses - the huge arrogance of the USA to do what it likes and sod everyone else. Then they inevitably screw it up and make things 100 times worse for everyone.

In almost any UK satire show, a guaranteed laugh is about the USA - it seems the USA is totally one big joke here, its always on TV or in the papers, satire about America, Americans, GWB - anything American is a huge joke. Sadly, thousands die for the cause and yet the USA still can't see it.

There was a US anti-war rally on the news last night, only 100 or 2 people turned up, indicating the lack of interest by the US people.

Col

Britain Policy? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/ap_on_re_eu/britain_blair)

Finally looks like a good change is goin to happen...diplomacy will not work with terrorists.

Is Europe catchin on?

Rich
01-12-2007, 09:26 AM
Britain Policy? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/ap_on_re_eu/britain_blair)

Finally looks like a good change is goin to happen...diplomacy will not work with terrorists.

Is Europe catchin on?
How do you think the terrorism from N.I. stopped? American warplanes and bullets:rolleyes:
Oh and don't quote Bliar, he's as big a twat as Bush:mad:

Jakboi
01-12-2007, 10:55 AM
How do you think the terrorism from N.I. stopped? American warplanes and bullets:rolleyes:
Oh and don't quote Bliar, he's as big a twat as Bush:mad:

I thought with N.I Britain just got tired of fighting...and gave in...go figure.

I like Blair hes got some cahones. :D

Rich
01-12-2007, 11:22 AM
I thought with N.I Britain just got tired of fighting...and gave in...go figure.

You mean like you did in 'Nam:confused: :rolleyes:

Jakboi
01-12-2007, 11:36 AM
You mean like you did in 'Nam:confused: :rolleyes:

Ok good point...:mad: :rolleyes:

Adeptus
01-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Judging by the smilie am going to assume top yourself means either you are gonna vomit or your going to euthanise yourself.
Yes, "top yourself" is slang for commit suicide.

Reminds me of a joke...

"An ice-cream man was found dead in the back of his van today, covered with crushed nuts and chocolate sauce.
Police say he topped himself." :p

Jakboi
01-19-2007, 05:53 AM
You mean like you did in 'Nam:confused: :rolleyes:

Now that I think about it...I beleive the purpose of Vietnam was to stop the spread of Communism throughout Asia...even though it wasnt popluar its long term effects are good.

I believe only Vietnam, N. Korea, China, and one other Asian country is Communist today...

Cant really say it was a bad thing...just unpopular.

Rich
01-19-2007, 06:02 AM
Now that I think about it...I beleive the purpose of Vietnam was to stop the spread of Communism throughout Asia...even though it wasnt popluar its long term effects are good.

I believe only Vietnam, N. Korea, China, and one other Asian country is Communist today...

Cant really say it was a bad thing...just unpopular.
Funny you mention China, now oustripping the US :rolleyes:

Kraj
01-19-2007, 06:26 AM
The comment that I could be like an American made me throw up, now I'll top myself, I can't live with the shame and embarrasment

Col
Hehe... in American gay culture, "top yourself" has quite a different meaning. :D

Jakboi
01-19-2007, 06:28 AM
Funny you mention China, now oustripping the US :rolleyes:

Theres not much you can do in terms of Economics when you have over a billion "consumers" and artifically keep your currency pegged low to make you products cheap.

Their currency doesnt fluctute with international market. The just raised it slightly beleive over the last few years.

Now with Democrats in power you can expect US-China relations to go downhill. Democrats dont like unfairness which hurts the US population...in terms of job loss and unfair competition.

You know how it goes.

Democrats "look out for people"
Republicans "look out for business"

The US trade deficit with China is astronomical in terms of dollars...hope the Democrats are tough with China...

Jakboi
01-19-2007, 06:32 AM
Hehe... in American gay culture, "top yourself" has quite a different meaning. :D

:eek: I dont even want to know or go there...:p

ColinEssex
01-19-2007, 07:24 AM
Hehe... in American gay culture, "top yourself" has quite a different meaning. :D
Thankfully, I'm referring to the UK version:cool:

Col