Well done to Barry Bonds for getting the home run record, and well done to the rest of the players - for easing my insomnia.

As is prone to happen now and again,I couldn't sleep - after 1 hour of lying in bed awake it got to 1.30 and I knew the Channel (4) (5)? baseball was coming on.

I turned it on -

I was asleep in five minutes.

Perfect.

Ps when I am after an early night - I am going to watch the Beckham MLS show!

Funny, in this country they air the test matches at 3 AM. Works just as well.

Funny, in this country they air the test matches at 3 AM. Works just as well.

You must be watching England.:rolleyes:

I didn't think a sport could get more boring than cricket... then I saw baseball and realised I was wrong. It certainly is a great way to get to sleep.

they should spice both games up ..
how about- every so often change the ball to a wasps nest ( but don't tell the players) - when they hit the "Ball" I will laugh my head off as they dance around trying to dodge the wasps...

Thats ball tampering - are you coaching Pakistan??

Funny, in this country they air the test matches at 3 AM. Works just as well.

Yeah, but baseball cures insomnia faster....

they should spice both games up ..
how about- every so often change the ball to a wasps nest ( but don't tell the players) - when they hit the "Ball" I will laugh my head off as they dance around trying to dodge the wasps... personally, I think it could do with some full contact.

...maybe give everyone bats :eek:

Maybe they should just put random land mines in the field. The death toll would be slightly higher, but the game would certainly be more entertaining. In fact, maybe we should do that for all sports.

Maybe they should just put random land mines in the field. The death toll would be slightly higher, but the game would certainly be more entertaining.

Like the Americans do in Iraq to catch out unsuspecting children and blow their legs off - still it stops them signing up to fight against the USA, I imagine thats the plan the US has.

Col

Like the Americans do in Iraq to catch out unsuspecting children and blow their legs off - still it stops them signing up to fight against the USA, I imagine thats the plan the US has.

Col

Yes. Exactly like that. Good lord you must be great at a party, I can see it now.

Random person: "So did you hear about Russia claiming the North Pole?"
Col: "Yeah, but so what? America has the worst crime rate in the world."
Random person: "Uhhh... yeah. What do you think about that monsoon in Pakistan?"
Col: "It was probably America's fault. Did you know they actually hunt animals with guns?"
Random person: "..." *walks away*

Random person: "..." *walks away*

Only an American would walk away from such an interesting subject....

Only an American would walk away from such an interesting subject....

If that is indeed the case then I'm going to have to adjust my "faith in humanity" meter a couple of points.

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You seem to be confusing humanity with intellect

Whose intellect, yours? I'm afraid my meter doesn't go that low friend. ;)

Whose intellect, yours? I'm afraid my meter doesn't go that low friend. ;)

LMAO :D, sorry Rich, that was dang funny :D

Random person: "Uhhh... yeah. What do you think about that monsoon in Pakistan?"

The monsoon was in Bihar state, north East India. Millions homeless, hundreds killed, livelihoods ruined.

Even worse than Katrina - wow! did it get airtime on US TV?

Col

If that is indeed the case then I'm going to have to adjust my "faith in humanity" meter a couple of points.


So Americans need a meter to show "faith in humanity"? is that a government issue? If it is it's probobly rigged to show the USA as the most humane country in the world.

Col

LMAO :D, sorry Rich, that was dang funny :D

Sayeth the guys who rate rounders, sorry baseball, as entertainment:rolleyes:

Jesus this USA bashing is getting dull dull dull.

Tell me guys, has America ever done anything good?

Tell me guys, has America ever done anything good?

Can we get back to you on that one?

Tell me guys, has America ever done anything good?

Yeah it got rid of a bunch of paranoid religous freaks from the UK starting in 1620. ;)

Has American done anything Good...
Cinnie Buns (typo somewhere in there).

The US does do fast food very well.. (although I am not a fan of the burger)

Some of the music is good

Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Barry White
Neril Young
Neil Diamond

Barbara Striassan(?)
Barry Manalow
Elvis
James Brown
Sam Cooke(I think he was a yank)


There just a few

From my point of view 'America' have done very little that is good but plenty of 'Americans' have done good things.

I would also consider the same to be true of Britain though. Britain has done very little that is good but plenty of the British have done good stuff.

Barry White
Barry Manalow
There just a few

Funny, I didn't have you down as a masochist:confused::p

Well thinking about it, there was of course the Beach Boys and Tina T.

No wonder these arguments break out when the Brits are listening to Barry Manilow and Yanks listening to Phil Collins.


I can understand the grievence!

I would not listen to Barry Manilow

- prefer Marvin Gaye - voice of an angel

however there are some great female singers as well

Tina Turner still looking good and she in her 70's

Tracy Chapman ( The Black singer - not the comiedian) Revolution -/fast car/ brilliant
the Carpenters - (old school stuff)
Joan Armstrong-armastrading (?) (I hope I got that Right)
and of course one of the most b fantastic vocies in years
eva cassidy

laren Hill - another reat female voice

Oh dear the only decent American music mentioned so far is the Beach Boys.

Anyway the best musicians, singers and groups to come out of America are The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, BB King, Bob Dylan, Neil Young etc.

I had Neil Young on the list

was Buddy Holly form the US ?

Ahh missed Neil young on your list. Yeah buddy Holly was american but he sucked :p

Tell me guys, has America ever done anything good?


Shakira!!!!!! She is beautiful.

Shakira!!!!!! She is beautiful.

She is also Columbian

I am aware of that!

I love Shakira - most of the stuff from Colombia gets up my nose!

Dylan ... whats he doing on your list

songwriter yes , but as a performer a voice like gravel - no harmonics flat soul -less

another one for the list

Micheal Jackson

yeah I know he's a fruit loop- but Thriller at the time wsa a great album , Billie Jean - pretty good song- and Off the Wall (?) also a good album


real funky stuff Earth Wind and Fire - now we are in to disco 70's stuff
Rolls Royce

The monsoon was in Bihar state, north East India. Millions homeless, hundreds killed, livelihoods ruined.

Even worse than Katrina - wow! did it get airtime on US TV?

Col


Actually I was referring to the flash floods that hit Pakistan yesterday that killed 22 people. I see how you could've gotten confused though. These floods are a terrible tragedy, no matter where they strike. If I worshipped any kind of deity I would pray for these people. Here is the link (http://http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/08/13/asia.floods.ap/index.html?iref=newssearch)


So Americans need a meter to show "faith in humanity"? is that a government issue? If it is it's probobly rigged to show the USA as the most humane country in the world.


No, it's not government issue, but I'm a visual thinker. Careful, if it goes down to 0 I have to leave the boards and never come back. You wouldn't want that to happen would you? :D

Dylan ... whats he doing on your list

songwriter yes , but as a performer a voice like gravel - no harmonics flat soul -less

Voice like gravel yes but souless??? It's because of the passion and soul the guy puts into his performances that he is a star.

I was never a Dylan fan. I actually tend to like his son better, who is the lead singer on the Wallflowers I believe.

Don't know how to break it to you guys.
Neil Young is Canadian.

oops sorry Canada

Neil Youngs one of yours

Some day one of these threads will stay on track....

Never......!

LMAO :D, sorry Rich, that was dang funny :D

The butt of the joke never really finds it very funny .

:confused::rolleyes: :p

Some day one of these threads will stay on track....

Just goes to show how little merit there is in discussing rounders, oops, baseball.......

You wouldn't want that to happen would you? :D

Stop teasing us!:mad:

Just goes to show how little merit there is in discussing rounders, oops, baseball.......

I can see where u are coming from. its more fun to play than watch....... but almost every nontechnical thread i see gets bumped in a different direction...

I do have to say though that cricket is an amazingly lame game... poke poke!:D:D

I do have to say though that cricket is an amazingly lame game... poke poke!:D:D

It gets even lamer when they have to bring on a runner for an injured paddle-whacker!

It gets even lamer when they have to bring on a runner for an injured paddle-whacker!

You don't whack the paddle, you whack the ball with the paddle, no wnder you don't like the game you don't understand the basics. :rolleyes:

Brian

You don't whack the paddle, you whack the ball with the paddle, no wnder you don't like the game you don't understand the basics. :rolleyes:

Brian

I'm willing to learn :)

Where does the boat come in :confused:

I'm willing to learn :)

Where does the boat come in :confused:

No it's just too complicated for Yanks, I shouldn't bother, have you tried learning the rules for SNAP?:p

No it's just too complicated for Yanks, I shouldn't bother, have you tried learning the rules for SNAP?:p

Tried but there were too many monarchs in the game for my liking :p

Tried but there were too many monarchs in the game for my liking :p

I'd have thought you would take them out and use the jokers instead.......

Tried but there were too many monarchs in the game for my liking :p
I'd have thought you would take them out and use the jokers instead.......

:D:D:D

It gets even lamer when they have to bring on a runner for an injured paddle-whacker!

As opposed to just bringing somebody else out to run because the current person isn't fast enough?

"pinch runner" (a tactic usually seen when a team is down by one run or tied, because he's quicker than the base-runner, and that one run is critical to tying or winning the game)."
(source http://www.howbaseballworks.com)

I'd have thought you would take them out and use the jokers instead.......

Replace like for like you mean? I'll try it and let you know how I get on ;)

The infield is a square, but is known as a "diamond",
Uh? :confused::confused:

As opposed to just bringing somebody else out to run because the current person isn't fast enough?


It doesn't happen that often. Not hampered by a boat paddle :p

A square, set on a diagonal is DIAMOND SHAPED.

I guess they don't teach geometry in the UK

A square, set on a diagonal is DIAMOND SHAPED.

I guess they don't teach geometry in the UK

A square is a square, a diamond is a diamond. I guess Americans don't know the difference

No, it's not government issue, but I'm a visual thinker. Careful, if it goes down to 0 I have to leave the boards and never come back. You wouldn't want that to happen would you? :D

Strange you rely on a mechanical device to make your mind up for you instead of thinking for yourself. The USA - land of the free eh?

Still, you're used to that with your US TV news, you're told what to think by the government censors. So making up your own mind could be a frightening experience, I can see that.

You do whatever your little box tells you

Col

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Diamond.html

seems both are correct - does seem a little silly to call a square a diamond -depending what seat you sit in it would be a square.

Since a diamond is really a rhombus, a square diamond is surely just a particular diamond. In the case of baseball I guess they name it from the point of view of the batter, is that a correct guess? If so it seems reasonable to me.

Brian

Strange you rely on a mechanical device to make your mind up for you instead of thinking for yourself. The USA - land of the free eh?

Still, you're used to that with your US TV news, you're told what to think by the government censors. So making up your own mind could be a frightening experience, I can see that.

You do whatever your little box tells you

Col

I really hope for your sake you aren't this dense in real life. It's a bit of fun, just relax for a second. You took a post about a sport and turned it into a political debate, and now you seem to be taking this meter thing I made up far too seriously. Good lord, you could somehow take a thread on the Jupiter and use it to bash George Bush. But still, I've never met anyone who had such a personal vendetta against a country. It's actually pretty funny.

And yes, Big Brother is watching here in the US. I am but a sheep being led by the media. That is supposed to be my line, right? And aren't you a supporter of censorship? Didn't you have a hissy fit when Chris Rock started swearing on TV? Or do you just support censorship when its convenient for your argument against the US? You're more biased than the NCAAP.

Since a diamond is really a rhombus, a square diamond is surely just a particular diamond. In the case of baseball I guess they name it from the point of view of the batter, is that a correct guess? If so it seems reasonable to me.

Brian

You are correct

Since a diamond is really a rhombus, a square diamond is surely just a particular diamond. In the case of baseball I guess they name it from the point of view of the batter, is that a correct guess? If so it seems reasonable to me.

Brian

Eh ???
Doesn't look like a rombus to me :confused::p

http://www.oildri.com/proschoice/images/baseball_field.gif

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Diamond.html

seems both are correct - does seem a little silly to call a square a diamond -depending what seat you sit in it would be a square.

The focal points of the game are the bases, not the seats of the audience. From the point of view of each of the four bases, it's a square tilted on a 45 degree angle, ie a diamond.

Eh ???
Doesn't look like a rombus to me :confused::p

http://www.oildri.com/proschoice/images/baseball_field.gif

Look at your diagram and read Dan's post.

Not sure why you picked on my post which was not the first to call it a diamond, I just explained why it was not called a square. :confused:

brian

Look at your diagram and read Dan's post.

Not sure why you picked on my post which was not the first to call it a diamond, I just explained why it was not called a square. :confused:

brian

Sorry Brian, no offense intended.

Sorry Brian, no offense intended.

None taken, just puzzled.

Brian

The focal points of the game are the bases, not the seats of the audience. From the point of view of each of the four bases, it's a square tilted on a 45 degree angle, ie a diamond.

If any of the four bases are looking down the side of the square to another base - its not tilted on 45 degree at all?

If any of the four bases are looking down the side of the square to another base - its not tilted on 45 degree at all?

True, but if a player focused only on a single base at a time during the play, they'd be out of contract pretty darn quick.

Each base has to monitor all four bases at the same time, ergo diamond effect.

Here's you're square engagement ring love, but it's not a diamond one honey, yes it is because it was made in America:eek::rolleyes::D

The focal points of the game are the bases, not the seats of the audience. From the point of view of each of the four bases, it's a square tilted on a 45 degree angle, ie a diamond.

But where does the swinger with the stick stand?:confused:

on the Jupiter and use it to bash George Bush.

Assuming you mean Jupiter isn't Bush having it spied on at the minute, or certainly just recently?

But where does the swinger with the stick stand?:confused:

That was discussed and decided on earlier, please keep up.:)

brian

That was discussed and decided on earlier, please keep up.:)

brian

But Daniella said there were four bases, which one does the guy with the girly stick stand at?:confused:

But Daniella said there were four bases, which one does the guy with the girly stick stand at?:confused:

The one directly in front of the throwy man! ;)

The one directly in front of the throwy man! ;)

Does he stand in the middle of a square or diamond?:confused:

Does he stand in the middle of a square or diamond?:confused:

If he's facing his masked catchy man or one of the base minding men, he's in the middle of a diamond. This is the normal way to play.

If he faces directly in between two of the base minding men, he's in the middle of a square.

(and my wife says I've picked up no knowledge on North American sports - I could be a stripey ref).

- I could be a stripey ref).

Isn't that the one that gets the crap kicked out him?:confused:

Good lord, you could somehow take a thread on the Jupiter and use it to bash George Bush.
Has the USA invaded there too?:confused:

But still, I've never met anyone who had such a personal vendetta against a country.
You need to get a look outside your picket fenced state or US boundaries

It's actually pretty funny.
It would be if it was just me mucking about, sadly it's most of the world that hates the USA - or haven't you heard, maybe you don't want to hear - who knows? I'm pretty sure that it's not shown on US TV how hated the US is

And yes, Big Brother is watching here in the US. I am but a sheep being led by the media.
We know that, we saw Fahrenheit 9/11 on national network TV here.

And aren't you a supporter of censorship? Didn't you have a hissy fit when Chris Rock started swearing on TV? Or do you just support censorship when its convenient for your argument against the US? You're more biased than the NCAAP.
When a loudmouth darkie US 'comedian' calls a UK audience a bunch of motherfu*kers on live TV ay 5:15pm then yes - it's disrespectful to the host country and a pretty poor showing of US culture if he thinks that's funny.

Never heard of NCAAP - some kind of world motorsport is it? only run in the USA of course:rolleyes:

Col

True, but if a player focused only on a single base at a time during the play, they'd be out of contract pretty darn quick.

Each base has to monitor all four bases at the same time, ergo diamond effect.

Yes I agree - if a baseman looks anywhere at all other than the base diagonally across the square - the square is no longer tilted at 45 degrees from his perpective.

Only a rubbish baseman focused on one other base would see the square tilted at 45 degrees.

Maybe its got more to do with batsmen?

Only a rubbish baseman focused on one other base would see the square tilted at 45 degrees.

:confused::confused::confused:

In which direction would you face to get the optimal view of all bases :confused:

:confused::confused::confused:

In which direction would you face to get the optimal view of all bases :confused:

Facing the diagonally opposite base would give you the best view of both the other 2 bases

This discussion reminds me of the old British currency before they went decimal.

30 shillings to the pound unless you wanted the price to sound lower than you quoted it in guineas which were 31 shillings.
Of course the guinea coin was removed from circulation 100 years earlier.
Or you could pay for it in crowns. Wait, they only had half crowns.

Who's on first?

This discussion reminds me of the old British currency before they went decimal.

30 shillings to the pound unless you wanted the price to sound lower than you quoted it in guineas which were 31 shillings.

Who's on first?

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Never whilst I lived.

Brian

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Never whilst I lived.

Brian

I found this quite interesting:

"In the Great Recoinage of 1816, the guinea was replaced as the major unit of currency by the pound, with a coin called a sovereign.

Even after the coin ceased to circulate, the name guinea was long used to indicate the amount of 21 shillings (£1.05 in decimalised currency). The guinea had an aristocratic overtone; professional fees and payment for land, horses and art were often quoted in guineas until decimalisation in 1971. It is still quoted in the pricing and sale of livestock at auction, racehorses, and many major horse races in both Great Britain and Ireland bear names ending in "1,000 Guineas" or "2,000 Guineas," even though the values of their purses today are much higher."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_coin

Of Course, given the source, it may be at least partially incorrect, but I still feel I got my daily dose of knowledge.

:confused::confused::confused:

In which direction would you face to get the optimal view of all bases :confused:

Backwards? :confused:

ALC

you are correct 20 shillings to the pound, 21 to the guinea.

Brian

I bet you wish it had been 30 shillings to the £ Bri:D

I bet you wish it had been 30 shillings to the £ Bri:D

Only if I had only pounds and no smaller coins.
Just imagine 360 penny lollipops etc

Brian