Following the Sporting Heroes theme, what piece of music do you consider the ultimate?

My submission (and flogged to death by every hackneyed musician on the planet) consider the times and what else was going on musically, I submit

Antonio Carlos Jobim - The Girl From Ipanema

Corny, maybe, but write a better one!

Linkin Park -----Crawling:D

Antonio Carlos Jobim - The Girl From Ipanema


Who:confused: :confused:

Jobim, along with Joao Gilberto were the instigators of Brasilian Bossa Nova in the late 50's / early 60's

Jobim, along with Joao Gilberto were the instigators of Brasilian Bossa Nova in the late 50's / early 60's

Ah, before my "time" then:eek::D

Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
Any Beatles song

The Brazilian sound still lives thanks to Sergio Mendes et al.

I like all sorts of stuff, but if you were to pin me down, I would say the third movement of the Third Brandenburg Concerto by J S Bach. It is just an incredibly infectious dance. When I hear it, in my mind I can see a Renaissance-era European village with a bright, Spring day as the villagers dance to celebrate some joyous holiday.

There are only three types of music I don't let in the house. These would be angry, spiteful gangsta rap; extreme acid-heavy-metal rock; and howlin' dawg country laments. I can take almost anything else.

My wife loves anything related to Christmas except there was this one album by Wynton Marsalis (Grammy-award winning artist, plays trumpet). It was something like A Bluesy Christmas. It sounded like every musician was stoned on something stronger than simple alcolhol during that recording session. It's the ONLY Christmas Album my wife won't play again. She even lets me play my Dr. Demento Christmas album. But not the Wynton Marsalis album.

I like 80's hard rock and power ballads.
AC/DC, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Guns N' Roses, Mötley Crüe, Poison, Scorpions, Van Halen, etc.

Hard to choose one...

I really like AC/DC's Back in Black: I learned guitar:o and drum:cool: on that one. Quit guitar pretty quick though.

Some others:
Van Halen's Hot for Teacher: The guitar and drum on that one I'll never try. Wow!!!:eek:
For harder stuff, I'd choose Accept's Balls to the Wall and for power ballad, Scorpions' Still Loving You.

I like 80's songs 'cause there is a personal story behind each of them. When I want to go back in time to my teenage years, I don't look at pictures or videos. I listen to the music of the 80's and make a journey back in the good time. I remember exactly what I was doing when I heard every songs for the first time.

Being an amature musician , I like a whole range of music, but love to listen ( or play) jazz or fusion. My great heroes are John Scofield, Pat Metheny, Michael Brecker, Frank Zappa, Michael Borstlap , Jazzpana II and many others. I occasionally listen to Debussy (Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune ) or Ravel (Concerto pour la main gauche en ré majeur)
but recently discovered another favourite : Richard Bona. One of the best bass players
I ‘ve ever heard. His last album Tiki is a mixture of jazz with old Cameroons folk songs.
Brilliant.

Ah, a man after my own heart - In the fusion area I am hugely influenced by John McLaughlin & Keith Jarret - Debussy / Ravel I'll listen to anytime

The reason I went with Jobim is after learning to play it (in a fashion) it's just so logical where your fingers fall... Forget the stuff you here in the elevators, source the original, Astrud Gilbertos voice and theow in Stan Getz's liquid sax

Excuse me chaps, I have to go outside for a bit and I may be some time....

.. Forget the stuff you here in the elevators, source the original, Astrud Gilbertos voice and theow in Stan Getz's liquid sax



Fully agree, also the Charlie Bird/Stan Getz album "Jazz Samba" was and still is a classic and has set the standard for that type of music :cool:

Leaving out the classics Bach, Strauss etc for a while

Consider

The Dubliners. Okay its Irish Folk and maybe an acquired taste but definately to my taste

L

Ben Harper - Roses from my friends - brilliant acoustic guitar piece
Dave Matthews band
Bare naked ladies - Brian wilson- awesome and also their cover of when doves cry)


as to others well depends what mood I am in David Grey - is very good, and Rob Thomas (?) time after time, also The Cure - acoustic versions
Ryan Adams - Guns and Roses (when i am in the mood for it)
Beatles - a bit iffy on this - early stuff yeah but the later stuff not too een on but George Harrisons stuff is Brilliant - I think that he was overshadowed by Paul & John - but I think he was on equal terms with both of these song writers My sweet lord and dark horse not to mention here comes the sun (not sure if that his or a beatles one)

Just looking at Talking Heads - remain in light.

Although these days I try to listen to World Jazz. Courtney Pine, Jan Garbarek even Mike Stern now he's not afraid to tackle music by jimi Hendrix

If we are on about classical music then Vangelis (?) or even tubular bells by whats his name ??

I am not a fan of Classic, but I like In The Hall Of The Mountain King which has a lot of power in it. It is almost "Hard Classic". If someone knows of some other classical music of that tempo, let me know.

How about Enya or even Moby - modern artists with a classical twist .

I am not a fan of Classic, but I like In The Hall Of The Mountain King which has a lot of power in it. It is almost "Hard Classic". If someone knows of some other classical music of that tempo, let me know.

Hard classic from Grieg :rolleyes:
You might try Le sacre du primtemps by Stravinsky. Or the planets from Holst or as an alternative : Also Sprach Zarathustra from Strauss.

Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition / Night On Bare Mountain has some good high tempo 'edgy' sections

Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition /

ELP's version was best:cool:

Seeing the theme seems to be turning classical - here's a name to conjure with:

Carl Stalling

Let's see who was paying attention when they were growing up

Any takers?

To Rich - ELPs recording of Pictures must go down as technically the worst in history! Like most of their work, but this makes my ears bleed

Classical music
how about the theme from
Vision on ( music playing when they show the art work)
merry christmas mr lawrence (I think its called china)
the theme from Galdiators (?)

To Rich - ELPs recording of Pictures must go down as technically the worst in history! Like most of their work, but this makes my ears bleed

Sacrilege!:mad::p

To Gary - If it is now moving from classical to movie themes - Clannad, The Theme From Harry's Game - a most depressing movie (the Irish 'troubles') but a truley glorious piece of music

Tp Rich - The sound quality is apalling, despite the musical intentions - Cream, Wheels of Fire Live, recorded some 5-6 years earlier sounds 1000% better. How far has computer technology moved ib the same time span?

And the recording engineer came up with this?????

Tp Rich - The sound quality is apalling, despite the musical intentions - Cream, Wheels of Fire Live, recorded some 5-6 years earlier sounds 1000% better. How far has computer technology moved ib the same time span?

And the recording engineer came up with this?????

I've heard better quality recordings of the period and I've heard worse! From a whole range of artists, I'm afraid the Yanks had the edge for many years in that field:eek:

This I can't imagine. Worth a new thread perhaps - The worst recodings in history?

Yes I probably should have said they were more consistent in the quality of their recordings, perhaps here engineers reserved the "quality" only for classical recordings based on the snobbery that existed within the industry at the time:mad:

I am in serious danger of committing a cardinal sin - I set this thread off, therefore I am the sole arbiter of what is good\bad music

I learnt form [pk] Miles Davis, there isn't good\bad music, it appeals to you or it doesn't

If it does, then so be it - nothing that anybody says will change this

To Gary - If it is now moving from classical to movie themes - Clannad, The Theme From Harry's Game - a most depressing movie (the Irish 'troubles') but a truley glorious piece of music

Brilliant piece of music - haunting -
it was also from a TV programme - but i cannot remember what it was..

how about War of the worlds and
the eve of war and Autmn Breeze(?)
this one is good listening to for kids ..
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Seeing the theme seems to be turning classical - here's a name to conjure with:

Carl Stalling

Let's see who was paying attention when they were growing up

Any takers?

You mixed up names, should have mentioned George Gershwin !:rolleyes::)

how about War of the worlds and


Awful, and made even worse by Burton:mad:

no the music 's fine

also on a long drive it will keep the kids from fighting in the back seats

no the music 's fine

also on a long drive it will keep the kids from fighting in the back seats

So will I'm a believer and Yellow submarine:p

So will I'm a believer and Yellow submarine:p

The truth comes out at last. Rich is the guy selling all the Monkees memorabelia on Ebay.

Hmmm... the WORST recordings? If we're lucky, we've not heard many of them.

But then... "The Surfin' Bird" comes to mind as one that got out. One wonders whether to call that a release - or an escape. "Well everybody knows that the bird's a winner, well a bird bird bird, the bird's a winner...." with a non-melodic voice so full of gravel as to defy reason. I've actually heard wrestlers who could sing better.

Rich is the guy selling all the Monkees memorabelia on Ebay.

Plus Richard Starky and ELP bootlegs/gadgets for free :p :rolleyes:

Carl Stalling : Still no takers?

Carl Stalling : Still no takers?

Nope :confused:

Alright class, sit up straight and pay attention!

Hands up all of you that DIDN'T get their beginner's guide to classical music from the Bugs Bunny show? (Yes Wolfgang, we know you are a child genius, you don't have to belabour the point - sit in the corner!)

As I suspected - you have gained a life long appreciation from someone you did not take the time to notice

Carl Stalling was the long time Musical Director of this wonderful show - how much music I learnt from this (plus some laughs too)

For you punishment you will write out 100 times:
"Stalling is God" (sorry Eric Clapton)

For you punishment you will write out 100 times:
"Stalling is God" (sorry Eric Clapton)

Stalling is God , sorry Miles
Stalling is God , sorry Frank
Stalling is God , sorry David
Stalling is God , sorry Wolfgang
....

Who the h#ck is Eric Clapton. :confused:

Who the h#ck is Eric Clapton. :confused:

And exactly what planet have you just arrived from?

Planet Upandabove, where Jan Akkerman is God :cool:

bbbbbrrrrpppppp - Incorrect answer - As an declared Frank Zappa fan, the correct answer is Remulak (You Are What Tou Is - Conehead)

If we are on about classical music then Vangelis (?) or even tubular bells by whats his name ??

Mike Oldfield, theme for the movie The Exorcist

No one has mention Led Zep yet:eek:

Put me down for Midnight Oil btw, and also Black Sabbath.

Listen to most anything at the moment having a run on Everything But The Girl, they have some class numbers.

Wrong planet, the more appropriate answer would be :

I'am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

Have you guessed me ... yet ?

Stalling is God , sorry Miles
Stalling is God , sorry Frank
Stalling is God , sorry David
Stalling is God , sorry Wolfgang
....

Who the h#ck is Eric Clapton. :confused:

Slow hand Clapton.... (Hope this is a joke)
for a while EC was or still is considered to be one of the greatest guitar legends ever .. depending on your style of music - the noraml rating is
henrix then Clapton
however there are some fantasic rock guitarist who are probably better than EC

Now there's a thought - what sought of music would Hendrix be playing if he were still alive today?

And exactly what planet have you just arrived from?

You've just been Zapped and was it that Carl guy that wrote Walzing Matilda?:confused:

Now there's a thought - what sought of music would Hendrix be playing if he were still alive today?

Not as good as that of the greatest blues guitarist ever, Mick Taylor:cool:

You've just been Zapped and was it that Carl guy that wrote Walzing Matilda?:confused:

Wasn't that written by Tom Waits ?

...the greatest blues guitarist ever, Mick Taylor:cool:

I liked Mick , but my vote would be for Robben Ford.

Not as good as that of the greatest blues guitarist ever, Mick Taylor:cool:

a - Now there's a statement! - your on your own now pal

b - I would hope Hendrix would have moved into Jazz/Rock and taken it to where it didn't get to

1983 A Merman I Have Turned To Be has survived the passing of time for me to be the one of his I play the most

a - Now there's a statement! - your on your own now pal



Mick had more hits than Hendrix and of course is still going:cool::p

OK I am claiming squatter's rights - I set this thread of so I should have some jurisitiction over it, but as we are now heading into The Blues

Muddy Waters (there are probabaly many who are techncally better) but He was the one that Clapton & Taylor and a million others got inspiration from

He was one of the originators of electric blues and the pinnacle is:

A Mannish Boy - END OF DISCUSSION

<rap, rap, rap, on screen> hellooo? You would mention Blues with no mention of Robert Johnson? B.B. King? Stevie Ray Vaughan? :eek:

How about jackson brown ??
or the eagles ??

(Yeah I know I have taken down a difffernt track)

Let's move it some degrees to another direction :

What about James Taylor, Joni Mitchell , Steely Dan or Ry Cooder ?

points for the Eagles, James Taylor, Steely Dan, and Ry Cooder :D

Taylor, in addition to his song-writing, had some very interesting ideas on chord progression and assembly

heard of the first 3 but the last one ??- I'll have to download some of this and give you an opion

heard of the first 3 but the last one ??- I'll have to download some of this and give you an opionHe did all of the slide guitar work in the movie "Crossroads" (the one with Joe Seneca in the early 80's)

Taylor, in addition to his song-writing, had some very interesting ideas on chord progression and assembly

Agree, especially his album October road is an exceptional piece of work.

Link : http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=NBzcohXKQaA

He did all of the slide guitar work in the movie "Crossroads" (the one with Joe Seneca in the early 80's)

know the film - ... with that annoying kid in it
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know the film - ... with that annoying kid in it
g yeah, but despite lil' Master Macchio the music was great.:D

and if you get the soundtrack, it contains music not found in the final cut of the film...

He did all of the slide guitar work in the movie "Crossroads" (the one with Joe Seneca in the early 80's)

He also appeared on more than one Stones album

OK I am claiming squatter's rights - I set this thread of so I should have some jurisitiction over it, but as we are now heading into The Blues

Muddy Waters (there are probabaly many who are techncally better) but He was the one that Clapton & Taylor and a million others got inspiration from

He was one of the originators of electric blues and the pinnacle is:

A Mannish Boy - END OF DISCUSSION

Yes but as has already been mentioned, Johnson preceded him:p

but what about john coletrain, miles davis (I think has been said already dont remember), louis armstrong, ray charles, nat king cole buddy holley ummm man cant htink of anymore of the top of my head

Now class, pay attention:

The Blues, if you had read the fine print, I specifically said Electric Blues in the Muddy Waters statement

That Robert Johnson preceded him is irrelevent (he was accoustic)

All the other contenders mentioned are all worthy (Ry Cooder is also high on my list of favourites) but for me, Muddy cannot be surpassed

Or the greatest blues man to ever pick up a guitar...BB King

He recenlty lost 60 pounds and started taking care of his diabetes. We may be able to enjoy him for a long while yet.

Guitarist, yes, but Waters is a better singer, has a better voice and for my taste, sings better songs

If we are on about classical music then Vangelis (?) or even tubular bells by whats his name ??

Michael Oldfield :)

Definately Randy Bachman - his new jazz dvd is awesome :D

Now class, pay attention:

The Blues, if you had read the fine print, I specifically said Electric Blues in the Muddy Waters statement

That Robert Johnson preceded him is irrelevent (he was accoustic)

All the other contenders mentioned are all worthy (Ry Cooder is also high on my list of favourites) but for me, Muddy cannot be surpassed

But blues started out as acoustic therefore it has great relevance:p and the Stones version of Mannish Boy is still the best:cool:

You might try Le sacre du primtemps by Stravinsky. Or the planets from Holst or as an alternative : Also Sprach Zarathustra from Strauss.i was going to mention 'Le sacre' (The Rite of Spring) too. it's a longish piece with a lot of variety but there are some seriously rocking moments! give it time if it rubs you the wrong way at first. it's one of my early favourites. if you're looking for Also Sprach make sure you look up RICHARD Strauss not Johann Strauss! (that's also a long piece with a lot of variety; the very beginning has the big finale! (used in '2001: A Space Odyssey').

more rocking classical music:

Short works
Dukas:
- The Sorcerer's Apprentice (a bit lighter; used in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia')
Ravel:
- Alborada del gracioso
- Rapsodie espagnol
R. Strauss:
- Don Juan
- Till Eulenspiegel

Long works
Bartok:
- The Miraculous Mandarin
Bernstein:
- Symphonic Dances from 'West Side Story'
Mahler:
- Symphonies: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9. (all a bit heavy for many listeners).
Orff:
- Carmina Burana
Prokofiev:
- Romeo and Juliet (Suites)
Rimsky-Korsakov:
- Capriccio espagnol
- Scheherezade
Shostakovich:
- Symphonies: 5, 10, 11. (10 and 11 are a bit heavy for many listeners).
Stravinsky:
- The Firebird (start with the suite).

ROCK
- the only rock band i still follow is Rush. i'm always curious to hear what they'll do next. (they are currently on tour supporting their 21st (?) studio album).
- used to listen mostly to Yes, King Crimson, etc., a few hard rock/early metal bands plus The Doors (huge fan for a while there) and Hendrix. things seemed to fade away somehow in the '80s IMHO.

"JAM BAND"
- Dave Matthews Band (esp. 'Busted Stuff', 'Crash')

JAZZ etc.
- most stuff from the early Blue Note days and Bop - Dizz, Bird, Miles, et al.
- Ellington, Buddy Rich Big Band.
- high quality ragtime music.

- Classical Indian music - it has to be the good stuff, not something you'd hear at a restaurant!

and so on...

ELP's version was best:cool:

Just scrolling through where this started & where it is now
To Rich, While I bemoan the sound quality of this, it did encourage me to get the classical version (a decision never regretted)

One thing has always puzzled me about the ELP version (and a mate who was a HUGE ELP fan)

Why did it not include Bydlo? I was always thoguht that to be the most naturally suited to an ELP remake and yet they skipped it????????

Not enough room on the recording technology that existed at the time, or maybe it was too complicated?:confused::D

What I meant from my initial rebuttal, Cream's Wheels Of Fire Live recording was made many years ealier, with less technology available - Listen to it now, even with digital etc etc - this STILL stands up as a great recording

Sorry, but ELP just botched this one

Too complicated for ELP? They were Masters of the subject!

Bydlo is a relatively simple theme, but with great dynamics (similar in concept to Abbadon's Bolero) They tackled that, why not this?

What I meant from my initial rebuttal, Cream's Wheels Of Fire Live recording was made many years ealier, with less technology available - Listen to it now, even with digital etc etc - this STILL stands up as a great recording

Sorry, but ELP just botched this one

I've answered this before, in any case ELP didn't own the recording studio,the engineer, or the record label:mad:

But they could have said NO - this is not going out. They quite happily spent huge amounts of money on synth technology, light shows etc etc
Which gave us (shudder) the punk revolution because of the pomposity of all this!

Punk :
Ian Dury & the Blockheads - Big Tick
Devo - Big Tick
The Stranglers - Big Tick

The rest, 50's music played really fast and REALLY badly

Hands up all of you that DIDN'T get their beginner's guide to classical music from the Bugs Bunny show?

Carl Stalling was the long time Musical Director of this wonderful show - how much music I learnt from this (plus some laughs too)damn! somehow i missed two whole pages of this thread. i knew the answer to this too! i grew up with that stuff and two summers ago i was given four collections of looney tunes and animated shorts that contain great music. he really was great.

Kill da wabbit!

The Blues, if you had read the fine print, I specifically said Electric Blues in the Muddy Waters statement...
That Robert Johnson preceded him is irrelevent ...Actually, in the beginning of that post you specified......we are now heading into The BluesIn reference to your Muddy Waters assertion, you specifiedHe was one of the originators of electric blues we all know that "Muddy Waters 'ventented 'lectriss-ty" :D



Statsman: BB usually manages to play over in Lancaster at least once a year and my wife and I love to catch the show. He has (had?) to sit in a chair, but can he ever play :eek:

My two penn'orth

Best song ever recorded

Keep on Trying by Poco

I like Vangelis, the Blade Runner soundtrack is on my Ipod and rocks my socks and has for almost 15 yrs now.

as far as punk goes, gimme some Sex Pistols and maybe a little sprinkling of Billy Idol to go with it

My two penn'orth

Best song ever recorded

Keep on Trying by Poco

:confused: :confused::eek:

we are into Punk now

ok, forget the sex pistols - old hat

The damned and the anti-nowhere league and a modern (ish) punk band PWEI(Pop will eat itself)

They did some real crap- but there are some moments of glory in there - i think they ae also on a couple of films

OK, are we all done and dusted or should I lob another handgrenade & set it offf again?

Sod it - let's lob a handgrenade & see where it falls:

As hoped, this has covered a lot of territory, some followed the original brief 0 a piece of music and gave their justifications, a lot said what about BB, what about Band A B C etc with no specific peice or justification

Wazz gave us all a listening list that will keep us going for months!

At the end of the day, your preference is your preference - it can't be right or wrong!

Here are mine

No 1 - original post
Favourite Electric Blues - Muddy (flogged to death already)
Favourite Electric Blues GUITAR (for sentimental reasons because this helped me to learn to play a guitar as a kid) I Wonder Who - Mike Bloomfield (The Live Adventures of Mike Bloomfield & Al Kooper)
Favourite accoustic blues (and why did I dig myself into this hole of differentiating?) after long deliberation - Ry Cooder, Hey Porter (Paradise & Lunch) Passion & technique, works for me

For my unintended battles with Rich over ELP (we quibble over nothing, they could PLAY as opposed to the dross we are served up from current artists) Favourite ELP track: Trilogy

Jazz: An equal winner:
Miles Davis - So What (Kind of Blue) I defy anybody not to listen to this and have their foot tapping - IT SWINGS
Miles Davis - Spanish Key (Bitches Brew) Having grown up on Rock / Blues this was the most revoultionary music I have ever heard at age 16 (many, many years ago)

Fusion Jazz: John McLaughlin - Hymn To Him (Apocolypse) The only viable fusion of Jazz / Rock / Classical I have ever heard

Rock / Classical - These are too broad an area to have a definitive answer on, so I will avoid embarresment and say Pass

Most electrifying performances I have ever seen:
Another joint winner!
1st First concert where I saw Leo Kottke live (had the LP for about a year and could NOT believe 1 person could be playing all those notes!) Live, he did and he played some more for good measure at a higher tempo (for those that do not know him, fingerpicking 12 string accoustic guitar) I walked out of the concert vowing never to touch a guitar again (I lied)

2nd Grammy awards several years ago (and sadly only on TV), Aretha Franklin filled in for Luciano Pavarotti at very short notice and sang his signature tune (opera buffs, help me out I can't recall the name of this piece) and I could still hear the blues - she played no tricks with 'jazzing it up' it was just the natural inflection of her voice - a spine chilling musical moment

:confused: :confused::eek:

You mean you haven't got a copy?:eek:

You mean you haven't got a copy?:eek:

No, nor an original, for that matter;)

just heard annie lennox on Radio 2 -
reminded me of her talent
she on tomorrow at 8 on radio with te full bbc orchestra..

that might be interesting

A Great talent - Somwhere in this thread. someone praised the 80's as a musical highlight (not for me) but Annie would stand out in any decade

It's Allright, Baby's coming back

Favourite ELP track: Trilogy



Wrong choice, The Sheriff & Karn Evil were better:cool:

A Great talent - Somwhere in this thread. someone praised the 80's as a musical highlight (not for me) but Annie would stand out in any decade

It's Allright, Baby's coming back

80 music - Men at work perhaps ??

80 music - Men at work perhaps ??

Oh come on, now you're taking the p*..:eek::p

No, nor an original, for that matter;)


I'll try to find you an mp3, I look upon it as my duty to further your education.:p

Oh come on, now you're taking the p*..:eek::p

you need to check where David's from ....

you need to check where David's from ....

But "men at work" is an oxymoron in Aussie land:D

I have read this post with great enjoyment and am compelled to throw in m 2 cents. For electric guitar there is also Carlos Santana, blues what about Johnny Lang, good old classis music I can go on forever - Guess Who, Poco Harem, Steppenwolf, CCR...and on and on.... I have a hard time defining anyone as the best.

I have a lot of worsts but will start with ABBA :eek:. and wreak havoc with the 80's.

Sandy

I have a lot of worsts but will start with ABBA :eek:. and wreak havoc with the 80's.

Sandy

Most of what was issued from the mid to late seventies onwards was and still is crap!:mad:

But "men at work" is an oxymoron in Aussie land:D

I object to being referred to as an Oxy

Most of what was issued from the mid to late seventies onwards was and still is crap!:mad:

:eek:

1975
A Night at the Opera (Queen)
Dressed to Kill (Kiss)
Face the Music (ELO)
Young Americans (Bowie)
Welcome to my Nightmare (Alice Cooper)
Toys in the Attic (Aerosmith)

1976
Jailbreak (Thin Lizzy)
A Night on the town (Rod Stewart)
Dreamboat Annie (Heart)
Hotel California (The eagles)
Boston (Boston)
Desire (Dylan)

1977
Bat out of Hell (Meatloaf)
Street Survivor (Lynyrd Skynyrd)
Rumours (Fleetwood Mac)
Slowhand (Clapton)
The Stranger (Billy Joel)

1978
Van Halen (Van Halen)
The Cars (The Cars)
Stranger in town (Bob Seger)

1979
Breakfast in America (Supertramp)
The Wall (Pink Floyd)
London Calling (The Clash)
Highway to Hell (AC/DC)

1980
Back in Black (AC/DC)
Turn of a Friendly Card (Alan Parsans Project)
The Game (Queen)
Blizzard of Ozz (Ozzy)

1981
Face Value (Phli Collins)
Escape (Journey)
Nature of the Beast (April Wine)

1982
Saints and Sinners (White Snake)
Blackout (Scorpions)
American Fool (John Cougar Meelencamp)
Rio (Duran Duran)
Billy Idol (Billy Idol)
The Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden)

1983
Eliminator (ZZ Top)
War (U2)
Metal Health (Quiet Riot)
Cuts like a knife (Bryan Admas)

1984
1984 (Van Halen)
Stay Hungry (Twisted Sisters)
Love at First Sting (Scorpions)
Building The Perfect Beast (Don Henley)
Heartbeat City (The Cars)
Reckless (Bryan Adams)
Born in the USA (Springsteen)

1985
Theatre of Pain (Mötley Crüe)
Scarecrow (John Cougar Mellencamp)
Heart (Heart)
Brothers in Arms (Dire Straits)

1986
So (Peter Gabriel)
Look What the Cat Dragged In (Poison)
The Way it is (Bruce Hornsby)
Master of Puppets (Metallica)
Slippery When Wet (Bon Jovi)

1987
Joshua Tree (U2)
Diesel and Dust (Midnight Oil)
Kick (INXS)
Appetite for Destruction (Guns and Roses)
Hysteria (Def Leppard)

1988
Melissa Etheridge (Melissa Etheridge)
Colin James (Colin James)
Long Cold Winter (Cinderella)
New Jersey (Bon Jovi)

1989
Full Moon Fever (Tom Petty)
Pump (Aerosmith)
Trash (Alice Cooper)

So, do you still think that the late 70's and the 80's was crap?:rolleyes:

:eek:


So, do you still think that the late 70's and the 80's was crap?:rolleyes:

Yep, the one worthy of any note can be counted on one hand:rolleyes:

You are just too young :rolleyes: to appreciate it. :D

To Newman - I may well be on thin ice here, but out of that list, Peter Gabriel's So is the only one that would get any airplay at my joint (although nice effort to compile such a list)

That's why it is a joint. ;)

Each to his own - I'm certainly NOT saying I'm right and your wrong, but it has got me thinking:

Having my formative musical years in the mid 60's early 70's, I too bemoan the 80's , 90's & 00's as being pretty barren (much against my desire not to become a dinasaur like my parents, who, when I was a spotty young Herbert, wailed at me every time I played a Jimi Hendrix LP)

However, that is only from a Western music point of view

The 80's, 90's & 00's have given me much musical pleasure from the likes of Fela Kuti, Mory Kante, Ayub Ogada and a host of other 'World Music Boom' artists

I grew up in the 80's and my babysitter's name was MTV, if you know what I mean.
And if I don't listen much to the music of the early 70's and previous years is not that I don't like it, but more out of a lack of knowledge and, as most of the kids, couldn't make it to listen to my parents' music and like it.:o

The only songs from these years that I really like are from artists that I heard in the 80's.
I didn't know about Aerosmith's until their comeback in the mid 80's with rap artists Run-DMC.
I didn't know about my Pink Floyd's favorite (Brain Damage) until I heard The Wall in 1980.
And it is China Girl and Let's Dance in 1983 that made me discover David Bowie's Space Oddity.

Although The Stones and the Beatles where playing often at home (My mother was a big fan) I didn't get to realy listen to them until Emotional Rescue and Lennon's Starting Over in 1980.

So, slowly, I began to get interested in the 70's music, buying the Greatest Hits album of my favorite artists to get a peek at their previous work without listening to it all.

I have said before that the USA has produced many influential and great music artists.

The King of course is Elvis, he revolutionised pop music along with Holly, Jerry Lee etc. Elvis's 'American Triliogy' is a perfect example of his technique and skills.

You have to go a long way to find a male voice range to equal Roy Orbison - the only other person to do 5 octaves was Carusso.

The Everly Brothers were among the top selling artists of the late 50's and early 60's, their close harmony can usually only be achieved with siblings, they influenced The Beach Boys and got Brian Wilson on the trail.

In the 60's the band most influential to the Beatles was the Beach Boys - Good Vibrations being a masterly piece of songwriting and production, Wilson at his peak.

Don't underestimate Connie Francis - she had a voice that could do rock or tender ballads - very unusual.

Obviously the most important pop act was The Beatles - too many songs to pick a fave, but they knocked most competition into touch and destroyed many successful acts to the cabaret circuit. (Bobby Vee, Neil Sedaka, Pat Boone etc)

McCartney's bass playing is extremely complex and innovative on many Beatles tunes.

Col

2nd Grammy awards several years ago (and sadly only on TV), Aretha Franklin filled in for Luciano Pavarotti at very short notice and sang his signature tune (opera buffs, help me out I can't recall the name of this piece) and I could still hear the blues - she played no tricks with 'jazzing it up' it was just the natural inflection of her voice - a spine chilling musical momentit was probably "Nessun dorma", an aria (italian for "song") from the final act of Giacomo Puccini's opera Turandot.

Aretha can kick most anyone's vocal butt around the block. of course, it's a bit of apples 'n oranges as far as vocal technique compared to an opera singer's. (but that's not a value judgement! so no need to go there. it's all about the impact. both are great imho.)

also:

great list, newman!! i love early van halen. now there's a guy (eddie) who forever changed the landscape! a lot of great bands and albums on your list. peter gabriel's So is a favorite.
as someone pointed out, somehow led zeppelin was omitted from my and everyone's list. terrible.

so........much..................music............. .............................

Emotional Rescue

Must be the worst album they ever made:eek:

McCartney's bass playing is extremely complex and innovative on many Beatles tunes.

Col

Has to be the best bass player in the world, still:cool:

:eek:

1975
A Night at the Opera (Queen)
1977
Bat out of Hell (Meatloaf)
Street Survivor (Lynyrd Skynyrd)
The Cars (The Cars)
Stranger in town (Bob Seger)

1979
Breakfast in America (Supertramp)
The Wall (Pink Floyd)


1983
Eliminator (ZZ Top)
War (U2)
Heartbeat City (The Cars)
Brothers in Arms (Dire Straits)

1987
Joshua Tree (U2)
So, do you still think that the late 70's and the 80's was crap?:rolleyes:

Well allright, two hands:p

I've never been one to avoid tossing out a grenade or two.

By llimiting this to the blues, we have omitted some great artists. For instance, if you allow country music, Roy Clark's guitar skills were quite good. His talents were wasted because of some career choices, I'm sure, but he was able to pick and grin with the best of them.

Let's step over to Charlie Daniels, whose "Devil Went Down to Georgia" is a real toe-tapper. But the sequel "Devil Went Back to Georgia" was even better and they had a guest violinist for that one - with Johnny Cash on vocals. As great as the first one was, the sequel was (at a technical music level) incredibly better. Of course, as a sequel it did not open new ground so it gets overlooked A LOT. Unfairly, IMHO.

Now if you want to talk about innovators, go back a bit. First, to J S Bach, who was only a frickin' genius of composition. Organ, continuo, harsichord, piano - all were (in his day) relatively new. He embraced them and in so doing, cemented their positions in the world of music in way that might not have occurred so rapidly had he NOT been on the scene.

Fast forward to Tschaikovsky, who wrote innovative works in his use of contrasts, new sounds, and non-standard sounds. OK, everyone knows about the 1812 Overture that used cannons and church bells. But it is less well known that the Nutcracker used a new instrument. So the story goes (and it might be apochryphal, but I'll repeat it anyway), Petey Boy went to London for something and heard this MARVELOUS new instrument called the CELESTA. (OK, it was new at the time.) He bought one and smuggled it back into Russia. He composed the Dance of the Sugar-Plum Fairies in the Nutcracker Suite to feature this unknown instrument and sneaked his celesta into the concert hall in a box that completely concealed it. Supposedly, opening night for the new ballet, The Nutcracker, was pandemonium when the delicate little strains of "Fairies" wafted through the halls.

Fast forward to Phillip Glass, who is not as widely appreciated today as he should be - but there is always the test of time. Mr. Glass experiments in synthesizers - and in modulated silence - as a musical issue.

It is very hard to ignore Julie Andrews as a performer. Like Roy Orbison, she was able to hit an incredibly wide range of notes (before her throat operation). See, for example, the movie Victor, Victoria. Besides being a real HOOT, it also shows off some of her range. OK, it's a fluff piece in some ways. But NICE fluff.

As far as PURITY of voice, I have two immediate nominations, both (sadly) deceased. Cass Elliot (Mamas and Papas) and Karen Carpenter. Both had truly INCREDIBLE singing voices. I've got a really nice audio system and when I listen to either woman sing on a "triple D" CD, the purity and precision of their "vocal instruments" is overwhelming.

There is a category we are avoiding - arrangers. I'll nominate Quincy Jones as being one of the best modern arrangers. I bought a DVD of "The Wiz" and viewed it the other day. OK, the vocals are sometimes a little hard to follow because they are in ghetto patois - appropriate for the movie of course - but the orchestration behind the vocals is absolutely flawless. You know QJ is good. Perhaps you don't know quite why, though. He was the arranger behind Michael Jackson's Thriller album. OK, MJ is a really good entertainer, uses his voice to good effect - but it was QJ that made the album so hot. MJ makes things hot on stage because as an entertainer he has "presence" - but on the album it is the MUSIC that comes through - and that was QJ standing behind MJ all the way.

i never put Elvis on my list - in much the same way as i would not put the beatles-- for their time they were gods of music .
as to whether Paul McCartney greatest bass .. i am afraid that their is some much crap out there with his name on it that its now tainted - and I cannot stand him any more ..personal view

as to elvis - there anrn't enough words to describe his talent - but this was not to my liking ...

Bowie
great - (but not now)

Red hot chilli pepers

I would say their career has been fantasic - and looking at the history has been a bit like the beatles (but in reverse) the beatles start out with simple music and got complicated - peppers started complicated and have now stripped their music down to the basic's - (mind you ,still some of it is sh*t)

as to whether Paul McCartney greatest bass .. i am afraid that their is some much crap out there with his name on it that its now tainted

Listen to the bass line on 'Something' or the running bass of "Hello Goodbye or "Penny Lane" or even the speed he plays the double notes on "I Saw Her Standing There"

Trivia - John Lennon played bass on "Ballad of John and Yoko", Paul played drums, John also did the lead. George and Ringo didn't turn up for the recording.

Col

As far as PURITY of voice, I have two immediate nominations, both (sadly) deceased. Cass Elliot (Mamas and Papas) and Karen Carpenter. Both had truly INCREDIBLE singing voices. I've got a really nice audio system and when I listen to either woman sing on a "triple D" CD, the purity and precision of their "vocal instruments" is overwhelming.

Cass Elliot was great, Karen Carpenter a bit too MOR for my taste in what she sang, but your right, she had a good voice

Two of my contenders in this category are:

Judy Collins - folkish but THE most pure voice I have heard, very closely followed by

Suzanne Vega - I think sings better songs than Judy and is also spinechillingly pure & haunting in what and the way she sings

George Harrison songs
something
here comes the sun
while my guitar gentle weeps

I would rate these beatles songs up there with any of the other beatles tracks

and probably the only song that really outshines these is J.L imagine

(I am slightly basis towards GH, but hey thats music for you)

hand grenade time

how about cats stevens ???

father to son - still does it for me - a great song...

peppers started complicated and have now stripped their music down to the basic's - (mind you ,still some of it is sh*t)

Don't you know that it was over twenty years ago today that Sgt Pepper taught the band to play?:p

the beatles-- for their time they were gods of music .


They still are mate, name another band that anywhere even approaches their creative collective genius:confused::cool:

Might this set us off on yet another tangent? The most INFLUENTIAL artists, those that actually changed the course of music.

In my list, many have already had mentions here (we must be a pretty knowledgeable bunch) although all are not necessiarily to my taste

To begin at the beginning, J.S. Bach - undoubtedly (having my interest sparked by Carl Stalling, he was the first that really appealled, closely followed by Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker)

Beethoven - definitely (Pastoral Symphony = bliss)

Debussy / Ravel - absolutely (having finally arrived in what I liked in classical music, this was it

Modern classical: Stravinsky's Firebird / Aaaron Copeland Rodeo (thank you ELP)

Early 19's - Robert Johnson - without question & Louis Armstrong (his work does not much for me, but did to many, many who do appeal) so cannot be denied

30's - 40's - 50's ?? Duke Ellington (although I preferred Count Basie) Charlie Parker and certainly by the 50's Miles Davis was changing music (first of many times he did)

50's - Elvis gets all the plaudits (& I quite like some of his early work, but check out Arthur Cruddup's original version of That's Alright Mama) but, The King of Rock 'n Roll?? For me, once Little Richard made Lucille, RnR had nowhere else to go - it had reached it's peak - Jobim was also creating Bossa Nova

60's -(My golden period) Beatles without question, but also had Hendrix, Cream & the whole blues explosion, Aretha Franklin and the beginnings of 'Fusion'

70's - My interests were now definitely with fusion - McLaughlin, Keith Jarrett (get the Bremmen / Luasanne Concerts) Chick Corea, Yes & ELP (where they self indulgent - YES, but they could PLAY and play innovative stuff

80's - 90's - 00's it now gets a lot tougher - who has actually changed the couse of music? Rap concieveably has by removing the music component (no chord progressions & a two note melody - it aint music anymore)

There have been some great artists in these decades, but other than rehash what came before in a different format, who actually changed music with an original idea?

60's -(My golden period) Beatles without question, but also had Hendrix, Cream & the whole blues explosion, Aretha Franklin and the beginnings of 'Fusion'



And it could equally be argued that Chuck Berry etc influenced them to start with....................

They still are mate, name another band that anywhere even approaches their creative collective genius:confused::cool:

Queen
Bee Gees
Genisis

to name a few

If you look at the Bee Gees

(I think) they have had more no 1 to their name than the beatles - remember they wrote for other artists

However if we are looking at "modern bands" then you may have a point Oasis, the song writer is very good - where as his brother is a dick ..

To Gary - re Bee Gee's (having spent their childhoods in Australia I should support them & I do like their early works)

More hits does not mean more talent (although in this case at least they had some)

The Spice Girls had hits, Milli Vanilli had a hit!!!!

Hits can be got from the marketing department

re Oasis - Many music critics have already commented on how similiar many Oasis songs were to Beatles ones - other than doing some 20 years after the event, what did they do that was NEW????????

And it could equally be argued that Chuck Berry etc influenced them to start with....................

Goes without saying and will not get rebuttal from me - especially influence he had on The Beatles & Rolling Stones has largely inflenced me

bach is seen as an original. oddly, he was at the end of the baroque era and represents a culmination of everything that came before. his son c.p.e. bach could be considered a modernist of the day working with new forms and helped catapult the classical era. he was certainly more *famous* than his dad who fell into obscurity for almost 100 years until mendelssohn "revived" his music.

beethoven's third symphony was original. the very opening was a shocker. two chords in your face, then off to the races. most music before him moved harmonically from the 'one' chord (I) to the 'five' chord and back again. he invented the idea of music moving to the III chord and many other things, including one of the earliest 'programmatic' pieces - music that tells a story - his sixth symphony 'the pastoral', which someone mentioned earlier.

most music historians look at how a composer's music evolved harmonically to assess originality. what chords are used? what chord progressions are used? what chord extensions are used (the use of 7ths, 9ths, 11ths and 13ths).

wagner is often seen as the pinacle of harmonic development. then we start getting masters of orchestration (what instruments are used and how?). then the tone poems (similar to programmatic music) and influences from outside of europe: scales/modes from asia, for example, such as in the music of debussy (a master of harmony and orchestration).

in the modern era anything goes (or went), from repetitive phrases (adams/glass) to the very sounds around us (cage/varese), to ultra-modern "new complexity".

pop and rock did and does go through similar changes but with less variety of harmony and especially instrumentation - drums, bass and guitar are still the heart of most of it, and of course keyboards. like debussy, bands that are influenced by "other" styles of music and actually incorporate those styles into their own to create something new can be viewed as original - the police's use of ska and/or reggae grooves, peter gabriel's incorporation of "world musics" as examples.

what's amazing is the variety we can find within an essentially unchanging medium. it's remarkable what people can come up with. not only that, a super-group like the beatles or the police can have come out with only 5 albums (police) or 12 (beatles) while other super-groups have so many more (excluding live and compilations): rush (21); stones (over 20), etc....

Wazz - thanks for the informative post - rock category - what was most galling to me, especially a trend in the 80's was a bands debut album, heavily promoted - and their second would be their Greatest Hits!!!

Neil Young
The Eagles

The Wombles
Mud
David Cassidy
Bay city rollers

Hold on I 've lost the plot ..
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most music historians look at how a composer's music evolved harmonically to assess originality. what chords are used? what chord progressions are used? what chord extensions are used (the use of 7ths, 9ths, 11ths and 13ths).

Digesting your post even further, I now have even greater faith that my Jobim submission was the right choice - the chords used in bossa nova are still innovative - and better still played with that seductive rhythm

Neil Young
The Eagles

The Wombles
Mud
David Cassidy
Bay city rollers

Hold on I 've lost the plot ..
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What!:eek: Just as you were getting onto the good stuff!:p

If you look at the Bee Gees

(I think) they have had more no 1 to their name than the beatles - remember they wrote for other artists

They were responsible for that crap called disco!:mad::mad:

Having once played in a rock band, I am more than intimately familiar with the common progressions include the "I-IV-V" and "circle VI" sequences. I guess when I was still with my group, 95% + of the popular music was that way. If you don't play the blues in a I-IV-V or minor-chord variants thereof, it ain't the blues, baby!

Therefore, considering West Side Story, Elmer Bernstein's music was a true breath of innovation, with unusual and incredibly infusive progressions. Progressions that stayed with you because they were so unusual. Progressions that seeped into your brain as a stroke of newness, a flash of genius, a portent of a talent that would stand up to the test of time.

Then again, brilliance comes in many ways. Earlier I mentioned how Tchaikovsky was an innovator with sound. So was Leroy Anderson. But because his music was more set in a commercial vein, you might not know the name. On the other hand, if you ever were a fan of late-night movie shows on TV (particularly in local channels) in the 1950s and 1960s, you know his music. He had recordings that were used as "bumper" music between commercial breaks.

He used innovative sounds - for instance, a clock in "The Syncopated Clock" - or typewriters as a rhythm instrument. Toy trumpets in "Trumpeter's Lullaby."

Then, there are other types of innovators. Robert Moog - essentially the guy who made synthesizers famous. Ray Kurzweil - whose keyboards became famous because of their versatility - and because "Little Stevie Wonder" played one. Walter/Wendy Carlos - who had the idea of making a classical synthesizer album that almost single-handedly resurrected the Columbia Masterworks label. (Switched-On Bach, of course.) Lesser players in sea of great artists.

Last but not too far from least, that mis-begotten, long-forgotten, smelled-like-he-was-rotten unacknowledged son of J S Bach... P D Q Bach. He who created instruments such as the "Pandemonium" - 25 tuned sheets of glass. Each composition could only play each note once, but oh such glory. {smirk smirk}. Or the "Duet for Bagpipe and Triangle." Noted for his sequels to greater compositions - who can forget the stirring "Iphegenia in Brooklyn" or "My Bonnie Lass Smelleth So" ...? With all due thanks to Professor Peter Schickele, the Professor of Music History from the University of Southern North Dakota (or was it Northern South Dakota? I forget...) at Hoople, whose tireless endeavors revealed this long-ignored musical genius who stood in the shadow of his great father for so many years. Usually in the shadow and with the misfortune of being downwind every time dad had gas...

One of the compositions was found as the liner of an old bird cage in an attic. Prof. Schickele cleaned up the parchment pretty well, though some of the notes are hard to distinguish from bird droppings. On the other hand, they add a certain air to the music if you play them as though they were really part of the piece and not just an add-on left behind by a dyspeptic parrot.

Some of you might think I'm joking. Look up "Peter Schikele" (or Schickele) with Google and you'll see...

Earlier I mentioned how Tchaikovsky was an innovator with sound. So was Leroy Anderson. But because his music was more set in a commercial vein, you might not know the name. On the other hand, if you ever were a fan of late-night movie shows on TV (particularly in local channels) in the 1950s and 1960s, you know his music. He had recordings that were used as "bumper" music between commercial breaks.

He used innovative sounds - for instance, a clock in "The Syncopated Clock" - or typewriters as a rhythm instrument. Toy trumpets in "Trumpeter's Lullaby."
a few years ago we did a new year's concert with the first half devoted to johann strauss and the second to leroy anderson. we all finally had a chance to discover what was great - and clever - about him. great stuff. i didn't know about the TV connection. tnx for that.Last but not too far from least, that mis-begotten, long-forgotten, smelled-like-he-was-rotten unacknowledged son of J S Bach... P D Q Bach. He who created instruments such as the "Pandemonium" - 25 tuned sheets of glass. Each composition could only play each note once, but oh such glory. {smirk smirk}. Or the "Duet for Bagpipe and Triangle." Noted for his sequels to greater compositions - who can forget the stirring "Iphegenia in Brooklyn" or "My Bonnie Lass Smelleth So" ...? With all due thanks to Professor Peter Schickele, the Professor of Music History from the University of Southern North Dakota (or was it Northern South Dakota? I forget...) at Hoople, whose tireless endeavors revealed this long-ignored musical genius who stood in the shadow of his great father for so many years. Usually in the shadow and with the misfortune of being downwind every time dad had gas...

One of the compositions was found as the liner of an old bird cage in an attic. Prof. Schickele cleaned up the parchment pretty well, though some of the notes are hard to distinguish from bird droppings. On the other hand, they add a certain air to the music if you play them as though they were really part of the piece and not just an add-on left behind by a dyspeptic parrot.my dad introduced me to the professor when i was a kid. it was a bit hard to understand as a kid but now...your description speaks for itself. ingenious.

and let's not forget spike jones!

and if you enjoy that kind of thing then you might check out Esquivel!! (start with Music from a Sparkling Planet). combine all of the above with latin rhythms and you've (more or less) got it. rock on brother. :D :) :D

and let's not forget spike jones!

SPIKE JONES!!! - My parents had one of his and I loved it as a kid. Had all but forgotten him till you just bought it up

Thanks

Mick had more hits than Hendrix and of course is still going:cool::p


Mick being Mick Taylor:

I have thought a long time about this one and at the risk of opening old wounds will respond:

Hello Forum members, just joined and need some help. I have inherited a database from my predicessor (Rich) and while it works brilliantly, there a few queries that don't seem to function correctly

Database is a Music Preference and the problem areas seem to be

1 - From a series of dropdown boxes, can select Band = Fleetwood Mac (Blues period) and Favourite Guitarist - Options available are Eric Clapton, Peter Greene or Mick Taylor. No matter what option is selected, Mick Taylor is the value that gets stored in the table

2 - Number of Hits, again from selection box, select Rolling Stones but some data appears to be missing, for a number of years, when I know they had hits, the data is not showing up. On further investigation at table level, I have discovered that the missing hits have been attributed to Mick Taylor!

3 - Compare number of hits between artists - select 1 Jimi Hendrix, select 2 Mick Taylor and because of above anomalies, Mick Taylor wins!!!

Have checked everywhere I can think of as to how Rich pulled off this sleight hand, but can't figure out how he did it

Any assistance greatfully welcome

They were responsible for that crap called disco!:mad::mad:



Yeah..
but compared today's rap - I'll take the disco
upbeat, happy music, - (Yes there was a lot of "Cheesey music " in there - but if you want a party to get off to a swing - disco does it )
as to quality - yes disco was middle of the road .

However some of the Disco music was creative in its own right

but compared to the classics - I admit does not stand up - 95% of discos singles cannot stand up to say 1 Queen song or a Genesis(?) track

but we are comparing apples with pears here it is personal taste
which taste better apples or pears

there were song great lyrics and then there was song great music
but there are very few great lyric and music if I had to name a few (Personal view) then baker street stands up by jerry (someone)?

Kylie does disco - and yet she can do a modern song quite well

If you were lets say a rocker would you like the Jam or the style council probably not you would probably like sussie quatro, or thin lizzie , def leopard etc

Mick being Mick Taylor:

I have thought a long time about this one and at the risk of opening old wounds will respond:

Hello Forum members, just joined and need some help. I have inherited a database from my predicessor (Rich) and while it works brilliantly, there a few queries that don't seem to function correctly

Database is a Music Preference and the problem areas seem to be

1 - From a series of dropdown boxes, can select Band = Fleetwood Mac (Blues period) and Favourite Guitarist - Options available are Eric Clapton, Peter Greene or Mick Taylor. No matter what option is selected, Mick Taylor is the value that gets stored in the table

2 - Number of Hits, again from selection box, select Rolling Stones but some data appears to be missing, for a number of years, when I know they had hits, the data is not showing up. On further investigation at table level, I have discovered that the missing hits have been attributed to Mick Taylor!

3 - Compare number of hits between artists - select 1 Jimi Hendrix, select 2 Mick Taylor and because of above anomalies, Mick Taylor wins!!!

Have checked everywhere I can think of as to how Rich pulled off this sleight hand, but can't figure out how he did it

Any assistance greatfully welcome

Hendrix lost it when The Experience split, Mick Taylor's still going:cool::p

Yeah..
but compared today's rap - I'll take the disco


One would rather resort to the Classics:D

D'oh!!!!! - the observent will have noted, where typed Fleetwood Mack, was thinking John Mayall & Bluesbreakers

D'oh!!!!! - the observent will have noted, where typed Fleetwood Mack, was thinking John Mayall & Bluesbreakers

Well talented though Mayall is, Fleetwood Mac with Green still outsold the Beatles in the early years, a feat Mayall never achieved. Green of course, having lost his marbles years ago has found them again;)

Green of course, having lost his marbles years ago has found them again;)

Where were they? Maybe mine are in the same place? :confused:

Has this duck finally died?

From the deathly silence, I would say yes. Thanks to all contributors

Il morte Pavarotti

Whether opera is your thing or not (and it sure ain't mine) his was a truly magnificent voice

As a singer, give me Robert Plant anyday

Il morte Pavarotti

Whether opera is your thing or not (and it sure ain't mine) his was a truly magnificent voice

As a singer, give me Robert Plant anyday

Looking through some old newspapers of the time it was often said that nobody could understand Jagger, well I've never understood a word of Pavlovas either.....
As for great singers you've left John Fogerty and Steve Marriot off the list, but then you forgot to include Brian Jones as one of the great slide guitarists of his era too:cool:

Looking through some old newspapers of the time it was often said that nobody could understand Jagger, well I've never understood a word of Pavlovas either.....
As for great singers you've left John Fogerty and Steve Marriot off the list, but then you forgot to include Brian Jones as one of the great slide guitarists of his era too:cool:

Somewhere in my parents house is an original 45 of Itchycoo Park.

Somewhere in my parents house is an original 45 of Itchycoo Park.

Got rid of all my 45s, I can now get several thousand on me MP3, oddly enough they still sound better on a juke box:eek:

Got rid of all my 45s, I can now get several thousand on me MP3, oddly enough they still sound better on a juke box:eek:

At last! Something we agree on.... 50's 60's records definitely sound better on the equipment of the time

At last! Something we agree on.... 50's 60's records definitely sound better on the equipment of the time

Actually I could easily argue that even music recorded today would sound "better" from a decent turntable etc than a digital source

Actually I could easily argue that even music recorded today would sound "better" from a decent turntable etc than a digital source

Ah, now there's a subject! I'm still not sure, I think the purely electronic music is best suited to digital, accoustic instruments?????

But there isn't that much electronic music worthy of note anyway

But there isn't that much electronic music worthy of note anyway

Oh man, are we about to be at loggerheads already?

Oh man, are we about to be at loggerheads already?

Well not if you add RickWakeman and ELP to the list

Actually, you may be right - I was thinking along the lines of analogue that improved by digital upgrade & had more in mind Vangelis, Patrick Moraz and a few others (there isn't a vast range of electronic music) but ELP, Yes and probably most of the ProgRock generation would fit the bill

Recently got Yessongs on CD (not having heard the vinyl for about 15 years) and Wakeman's 6 Wives of Henry XIII exerpt certainly benefits!

You should have got his best i.e. myths and legends, see how your speakers respond to the bass:cool:

And at the parting of our ways - sorry, I was more an Emerson fan than Wakeman

electronic music worthy ?

How about vangelis , Jan Micheal Jarre(?)
more recent Moby
some of Moby' stuff is really very good

Is that Moby Dick?:p

I was more an Emerson fan than Wakeman

Too little to chose between them, both equally gifted

electronic music worthy ?

How about vangelis , Jan Micheal Jarre(?)
more recent Moby
some of Moby' stuff is really very good

Vangelis already has a mention, Jarre? I liked Zoolook, but found him a bit repetitve. Moby??

I guess overall, its a pretty limited category - either used to show off instruments capabilities (Switched On Bach) or show off the performers capabilities (Emerson, Wakeman etc)

Since the initial boom, other than to get better quality orchestra simulations, who (or what instrument) has taken it anywhere since?

My favorite kind of music is mostly guitar related, but to just list a few

The Beatles
Queen
Steve Vai (http://www.vai.com/)
Eric Johnson (http://www.ericjohnson.com/)
Tommy Emmanuel (http://www.tommyemmanuel.com/)


Actually I could easily argue that even music recorded today would sound "better" from a decent turntable etc than a digital source
Not directly related to this but here's something I read about the quality of music on CDs not being as good as they used to be (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/33549).

YouTube - The Loudness War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ)

Wikipedia - Loudness War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war) (Note: I'm more wary about Wikipedia entries after reading this - Student’s program sends PR chaos in Wiki-scandal (http://www.maltastar.com/pages/msFullArt.asp?an=14323))

Is that Moby Dick?:p

No (lol)
however , soem of his stuff , i would rate - his mixing of classical music with soul voices , then the electric stuff even down to the tantric(?) chanting

cutting edge in its way , and I know its all electric, computer gerneated - but he does not hide this fact,

the blend of voice -to music- to rave culture is brilliant (I am a bit too old for a rave these days, but still enjoy the odd trip to Glastonbury -

g:rolleyes:

for a great voice how about
gabrielle- just replayed "Rise" -still sends a tingle down my back ..
sunshine through my window - brill.. ( a bit cheesey I know)

g:)

Does anyone else use last.fm (http://www.last.fm)? My profile is here (http://www.last.fm/user/MileStyle/) and it shows all the music I've been listening to and ranks it.

My profile is here (http://www.last.fm/user/MileStyle/) and it shows all the music I've been listening to and ranks it.

But we have listened to the Neubauten before and I still think it's crap. ;):o

You might try this for a change :
http://www.jazzradio.net/