CE should like this as old people ;) tend to like auto trans... :p

Link (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/04october07_electric.htm)

Col is currently in the Marquis following Liverpool. And a fine way to spend your retirement that is too Col!

I can't wait - on current calculations around 40 years to go!?!

Col is currently in the Marquis following Liverpool. And a fine way to spend your retirement that is too Col!

I can't wait - on current calculations around 40 years to go!?!

Marquis:
noun
1. humorist who wrote about the imaginary life of cockroaches

That's him :p

Col is currently in the Marquis following Liverpool. And a fine way to spend your retirement that is too Col!

I can't wait - on current calculations around 40 years to go!?!

Ignoring what the Redneck gunslinger from the bible belt has said. . . . . . You lost me there Paul - Marquis? I don't follow Liverpool, why would a Southerner follow a Northern team?

Plus, retirement from the NHS is nice. But, I'll need to get a job in the next few months - thats the plan anyway.

Col

CE should like this as old people ;) tend to like auto trans...
Here's a question for you - what percentage of cars in the USA have automatic transmission?

I wasn't aware any American was capable of using a proper manual gear shift. We're led to believe all US cars are automatic. . . . . :confused:

It's a bit like NASCAR where they are incapable of making left and right turns so always go in an oval track to avoid confusion.

Col

Ignoring what the Redneck gunslinger from the bible belt has said. . .Col

Name calling again Col? Not very nice. :rolleyes: Why you feel you have to stoop so low I'll never know - At least you did show a little respect by using an upper case 'R' in redneck :)

ken

Colin - one of the best car chases has Steve McQueen in it and this is a manual - ( Stick Shift?)

Quite a lot of the films also have manual Gear changes as well

I think this one was a bit beneath the Belt.

mind you what percentage is automatic ?? - it is probably quite high

My current car has a manual box but I have driven and owned cars with automatic boxes, what I cannot understand is why scorn is poured on automatics, what's great, clever, thrilling, or whatever, about changing gear?

Brian

My current car has a manual box but I have driven and owned cars with automatic boxes, what I cannot understand is why scorn is poured on automatics, what's great, clever, thrilling, or whatever, about changing gear?

Brian

Nothing. ;) It's 'great, clever, thrilling, or whatever, in some peoples mind to be a horses a__ :D

Name calling again Col?
No not at all. I understand Rednecks live in Georgia, you have a gun and kill things so that's the gunslinger part, and the bible belt is also in the southern states.

Whats the problem? It's certainly less offensive than the names you call me, at least I can justify my posts whereas your namecalling is just plain rude and ignorant. Not really surprising though.

Col

You my friend, at times, are the epitome of rude and ignorant, as most in this forum will attest to ;)

I would estimate 70 - 80% of cars in North American have automatic transmissions.

It's just the way the auto market has gone over here.

I have owned cars with both. In my recent trip to Europe I had a Renault with manual. Upon my return home I had to keep myself from putting my left foot down whenever I came to a red light or stop sign.

PS - Manual is referred to as "standard" in North America. Probably along the lines of boot - trunk, bonnet - hood etc.

You my friend, at times, are the epitome of rude and ignorant, as most in this forum will attest to ;)

and you're not?:rolleyes: oh, and your use of the words "my friend" is somewhat optimistic.

Col

I would estimate 70 - 80% of cars in North American have automatic transmissions.

It's just the way the auto market has gone over here.

I have owned cars with both. In my recent trip to Europe I had a Renault with manual. Upon my return home I had to keep myself from putting my left foot down whenever I came to a red light or stop sign.

Thank you for an answer to a civil question. There are others here who seem to ignore normal conversation and only wish to stir people up.

Col

Thank you for an answer to a civil question. There are others here who seem to ignore normal conversation and only wish to stir people up.

Col

Like those who call people rednecks - ;)

Like those who call people rednecks - ;)

Thats no different to me calling a Liverpool person a 'scouser' or a Birmingham person a 'brummie' - what is your problem?
I'm afraid I can't see it other than you wanting to cause an argument for the sake of it.

Col

Thats no different to me calling a Liverpool person a 'scouser' or a Birmingham person a 'brummie' - Col

Boy, for a person that thinks he has some kind of an ethical upperhand you sure call a bunch of people names and use a lot of slang... So much for being 'proper' :p

Boy, for a person that thinks he has some kind of an ethical upperhand you sure call a bunch of people names and use a lot slang... So much for being 'proper' :p

You need to get out more Kennybabe.:rolleyes:

The examples I gave are normal banter in the UK - they are not seen as offensive.

Why are you so sensitive?
you going to report me again like you did before you disappeared for a while, then came creeping back to stir things up again? then try to blame me?

or are you going to stop calling people by the nether end of an equine? is that normal in redneck land?

Col

I'm tired of fussin' for now... :)

Friends ?

:)
ken

Scouser and Brummie are names for people from certain areas of Liverpool and Birmingham respectively and are usually used with affection, I doubt if redneck is ever anything but an insult, but I could be wrong.

Brian
PS I don't qualify as a scouser.

I'm tired of fussin' for now... :)

Friends ?

:)
ken

Thats a joke. . . right?

Col

Why don't you 2 kiss and make up you know you want to. :D

Brian

Why don't you 2 kiss and make up you know you want to. :D

Brian

No way Pedro - I have tried, but to no avail. I'm afraid there is no hope.

Col

Anyway, I have to go now and make the afternoon tea as it's approaching 4pm.

Catch you later

Col

Scouser and Brummie are names for people from certain areas of Liverpool and Birmingham respectively and are usually used with affection, I doubt if redneck is ever anything but an insult, but I could be wrong.

Brian
PS I don't qualify as a scouser.

IMHO anyname could be meant as an insult depending on who is using it. I don't take offense to anyone calling me a redneck because I see them as a person who grew up on the farm and works hard in the sun all day. But some use it as a term for poor drunks with personal hygiene issues from the south...

Anywho... Why aren't you a scouser?

Anyway, I have to go now and make the afternoon tea as it's approaching 4pm.

Catch you later

Col

See ya Col, have a nice evening :)

:)
ken

I don't take offense to anyone calling me a redneck
So why appear to take it as an insult when I used it?

You certainly have different values every 5 minutes. No wonder we're all confused (well I am anyway) Its hard to know what is normal conversation with you if you change your mind so much.

Col

Scousers have to be born and raised in the centre of Liverpool, I am from the outskirts, in fact although we had a Liverpool postal address for all other things we lived in Lancashire, surrounded by fields and as a youngster being chased by the local farmers and gamekeepers rather than the cops :D

Brian

See ya Col, have a nice evening :)

:)
ken

I'll be back later - don't fret.

Col

So why appear to take it as an insult when I used it?

You certainly have different values every 5 minutes. No wonder we're all confused (well I am anyway) Its hard to know what is normal conversation with you if you change your mind so much.

Col

I guess I assumed you meant it as an insult ;)

Sorry, I'll try to be more consistant (but it's not likey to be much of a challenge for you then - :eek::D)

So why appear to take it as an insult when I used it?

Col

Yep I'm a little bit confused now.

Brian

Scousers have to be born and raised in the centre of Liverpool, I am from the outskirts, in fact although we had a Liverpool postal address for all other things we lived in Lancashire, surrounded by fields and as a youngster being chased by the local farmers and gamekeepers rather than the cops :D

Brian

So if you were in Liverpool and used the word scouser in public, you wouldn't get harsh looks from the locals?

So if you were in Liverpool and used the word scouser in public, you wouldn't get harsh looks from the locals?

As Col indicated it could depend on context, but as a general rule no, many are proud to be scousers, we have one who users the name on the forum.

Brian

As Col indicated it could depend on context, but as a general rule no, many are proud to be scousers, we have one who users the name on the forum.

Brian

Then it appears to have the same usage as redneck - :)

What about the word limey? I've heard it used as a generally derogatory term for Britains. If I was an obvious American at a ball game in the UK in a crowd of locals, would I be taking my life in my hands if I called somebody that?

Then it appears to have the same usage as redneck - :)

What about the word limey? I've heard it used as a generally derogatory term for Britains. If I was an obvious American at a ball game in the UK in a crowd of locals, would I be taking my life in my hands if I called somebody that?


Probably, I seem to remember that it was used to describe our sailors as they used Limes to combat scurvey caused by vitamin C shortage on long voyages, remember we ruled the world, properly ;), when it took an age to get anywhere. So I think it started as a derogatory term and therefore is still considered one.

Brian

Why don't you 2 kiss and make up you know you want to. :D

Brian
Kiss on the cheek? which face would I use?

and for interest sake, the Americans used to call us 'limeys' during the war, like we say 'Yanks' - I don't think its too bad - I've been called worse.

Col

Probably, I seem to remember that it was used to describe our sailors as they used Limes to combat scurvey caused by vitamin C shortage on long voyages, remember we ruled the world, properly ;),

As evidenced by the large number of areas of the world that wanted to remain under your tyranny - :eek::D


So I think it started as a derogatory term and therefore is still considered one.

Brian

Then I shall continue to not use it - :)

- I've been called worse.

Col

That's hard to believe :eek: :p:p

That's hard to believe :eek: :p:p

Most of it comes from you so you should know

Col

Most of it comes from you so you should know

Col


I'm sorry - :o

:)
ken

As evidenced by the large number of areas of the world that wanted to remain under your tyranny - :eek::D



All children grow and leave home, mind you most stayed in the Commonwealth, and many ordinary folk probably wish we were still in charge, instead of people like Mugabe and Bush. ;)

Brian

I'm sorry - :o

:)
ken

No you're not, thats just empty words. You've said that dozens of times yet you continue on just the same - is that an example of American values and promises?

Col

No you're not, thats just empty words. You've said that dozens of times yet you continue on just the same - is that an example of American values and promises?

Col

I've ask numerous times for you to make an effort as well and you too always digress :)

When you're ready to deal let me know - :)

Otherwise I'm truely sorry until you become mean again :)

Edit: Geeze, is this how democrats act - ugh!

Geeze,

I thought it was 'Jeeze' - as in a slang name for 'Jesus', your name calling knows no bounds I see.

Col

I thought it was 'Jeeze' - as in a slang name for 'Jesus', your name calling knows no bounds I see.

Col

I think it's short for Gee-whiz smarty pants :rolleyes:

I see as usual you're determined not to at least try and be civil... What else is new.:)

Scousers have to be born and raised in the centre of Liverpool, I am from the outskirts, in fact although we had a Liverpool postal address for all other things we lived in Lancashire, surrounded by fields and as a youngster being chased by the local farmers and gamekeepers rather than the cops :D

Brian

So what's the term for a Lancastrian then? A Lanky?:confused::D

Name calling again Col? Not very nice. :rolleyes: Why you feel you have to stoop so low I'll never know - At least you did show a little respect by using an upper case 'R' in redneck :)

ken

Looks like the marshall's back in town:p You'd better hope the judge is in somebody's back pocket:p

I think it's short for Gee-whiz smarty pants :rolleyes:

You think wrong 'friend'

Definitions
Jeez
Jeeze
exclamation

1. slang
Expressing surprise, enthusiasm or emphasis.
Etymology: 20c: originally US, corruption of Jesus.



ref (http://www.allwords.com/word-Jeeze.html)

Col

You think wrong 'friend'



ref (http://www.allwords.com/word-Jeeze.html)

Col

Typical Col... Argue with a brick wall over something worthless. Have it your way. :)

Typical Col... Argue with a brick wall over

So we can conclude that arguing with a Yank is the same as arguing with a brick wall?:confused::cool::p

This one anyway - :):)

Thank you for an answer to a civil question. There are others here who seem to ignore normal conversation and only wish to stir people up.

Col

If your cell number has nothing to do with a phone, you are probably a red-neck.

Jeff Foxworthy - the Red-neck comic.

This one anyway - :):)

So an Americans intelligence can be compared with a brick wall?:confused::cool:

So we can conclude that arguing with a Yank is the same as arguing with a brick wall?:confused::cool::p

Or that arguing with Rich is like going shopping for fish...nothing but red herrings.:rolleyes:

Or that arguing with Rich is like going shopping for fish...nothing but red herrings.:rolleyes:

Since when does asking perfectly polite questions become arguing:confused:

Typical Col... Argue with a brick wall over something worthless. Have it your way. :)

It's only worthless now you've been proved wrong.

Your the one that came on with the smarty pants name calling
Col

It's only worthless now you've been proved wrong.

I use one word, you come up with a different word and def and infer I mean something entirely different - :confused::confused:


Your the one that came on with the smarty pants name calling
Col

It's 'you are' = 'you're'. Please get it right next time or 'your' next job interview may not go very well... :eek::D:D

I use one word,
Spelt wrongly may I add.

Can you reference that "geeze" = "gee-whiz'?

Col

Spelt wrongly may I add.

Can you reference that "geeze" = "gee-whiz'?

Col

It's an American thing.
Gee...geez...gee whiz...
Socially acceptable alternatives to swearing.
Many more.

No not at all. I understand Rednecks live in Georgia, you have a gun and kill things so that's the gunslinger part, and the bible belt is also in the southern states.

Whats the problem? It's certainly less offensive than the names you call me, at least I can justify my posts whereas your namecalling is just plain rude and ignorant. Not really surprising though.

Col

Calm down, take a deep breath and please tell me how one person's name calling can be less offensive than anothers?

Since when does asking perfectly polite questions become arguing:confused:

"So an American's intelligence can be compared with a brick wall?"

This is POLITE. You sure have some strange definitions for words on your side of the pond.

Calm down, take a deep breath and please tell me how one person's name calling can be less offensive than anothers?

I wasn't name calling. If I was, I'd have used offensive words likening Ken to a 'horses ass' or something - but I don't stoop that low, thats an American trait. As I explained:-

I understand Rednecks live in Georgia, you have a gun and kill things so that's the gunslinger part, and the bible belt is also in the southern states.

Ken has said he doesn't mind being called a redneck and the other 2 statements are fact, so where is the name calling?

As I said, it's the same as me calling a Liverpool person a scouser, or a London person a cockney etc etc.

Anyway, no doubt Kenny will be back later to continue his crusade against me, in the meantime we may have some decent conversation.

Col

The only crusade around here is your crusade against the American's in this forum:

... thats an American trait.

;)

Which, still is a lot better than a Dutch treat ! :rolleyes:

American's in this forum:

The apostrophe is incorrect in this instance - please get your grammar correct before you have to write something serious.

Col

So it is - good catch Col. Sorry.

:)
ken

So it is - good catch Col. Sorry.

:)
ken

I thought you were the self appointed expert on that, you appeared so yesterday when I made a typo.

Col

I thought you were the self appointed expert on that, you appeared so yesterday when I made a typo.

Col

Nah - I make goofs as well - :)

Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is forum peace. I know world peace is too much to ask, but just a couple days heck even a week when people here aren't tearing each other down and calling names, dragging them through the mud.

thank you

(waits for the typical anti American tirade to start. usually something along the lines of there would be world peace if it were not for the Americans)

Nah - I make goofs as well - :)

Odd that you only pick me up on spelling etc. it's almost as if I'm being victimised.

there would be world peace if it were not for the Americans
You said it K - not us. Wonder how many people believe that.

Col

Odd that you only pick me up on spelling etc. it's almost as if I'm being victimised.


Poor baby ;)

if you are going to quote me Col please be kind enough to use the entire quote and not just the part that fits your agenda

thank you

Carefull or he'll change a word completely and claim you used it in a post - :)

Carefull or he'll change a word completely and claim you used it in a post - :)

I've yet to see real evidence that Geeze is a shortened version of gee-whiz. At least my correction of your mis-spelling has a proven evidence that it is a shortened US slang word for jesus.

As for your xmas present K - when Kenny decides to leave off the harrassment then you'll get your wish.
Remember how peaceful it was when Kenny went off in a huff after reporting me to the mods for a still unknown (by me) reason.

Col

I've yet to see real evidence that Geeze is a shortened version of gee-whiz. At least my correction of your mis-spelling has a proven evidence that it is a shortened US slang word for jesus.

The only thing you are proving by dragging this out is how asinine you can be - ;)


As for your xmas present K - when Kenny decides to leave off the harrassment then you'll get your wish.
Remember how peaceful it was when Kenny went off in a huff after reporting me to the mods for a still unknown (by me) reason.

Deal. I'll stop.

(Let's see how long this last ;))

:)
ken

"So an American's intelligence can be compared with a brick wall?"

This is POLITE. You sure have some strange definitions for words on your side of the pond.

There is a profound difference between a question and a statement, is it too difficult for an American to understand this?:rolleyes:

in the urban dictionary, dunno how much I like that, they are both there so you are both right. shake hands go down to the pub and have a pint on me.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=geeze

Remember how peaceful it was when Kenny went off in a huff after reporting me to the mods for a still unknown (by me) reason.

Uh, nope. You still found plenty of things to complain about...

Uh, nope. You still found plenty of things to complain about...

Hi Cindy.:)

Obviously if I was provoked, then I'll naturally 'complain'

Col

Hi Cindy.:)

Obviously if I was provoked, then I'll naturally 'complain'

Col

Were you provoked, or were you the one doing the provoking? ;)

Cindy, as you well know, there are several US posters out there who relish at trying argue with Rich and I.

Anyway, it's 11pm here so I'm off to bed.

Col

Cindy, as you well know, there are several US posters out there who relish at trying argue with Rich and I.

Anyway, it's 11pm here so I'm off to bed.

Col

Yes, well you're not completely innocent either. :)

Sleep well.

There is a profound difference between a question and a statement, is it too difficult for an American to understand this?:rolleyes:

So, have you stopped beating your wife?

Just a question.

I don't have a wife

Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is forum peace. I know world peace is too much to ask, but just a couple days heck even a week when people here aren't tearing each other down and calling names, dragging them through the mud.

thank you

It's been 3 days of 'peace' now - odd that nobody else bothers to post anything. Where's all this 'sensible' conversation people are so desperate to have?:confused:

Col

I think everyone's catching their breath for the next round.

I think everyone's catching their breath for the next round.

It just seems to me that if people aren't having a go at me or Rich, then they don't have anything else to say.

Anyway, K wanted a week, so a week it will be (as far as I'm concerned)

Col

It's been 3 days of 'peace' now - odd that nobody else bothers to post anything. Where's all this 'sensible' conversation people are so desperate to have?:confused:

Col

They have long since given up on the watercooler/political forum. Why bother when every thread descends into a slanging match.

Brian

They have long since given up on the watercooler/political forum. Why bother when every thread descends into a slanging match.

Yes, it's annoying - I don't know why they do it:confused: must be an American thing.

Col

No, just boring.

It is inevitable that sooner or later a member of the "Slanging Gang" on either side of the pond will make a disparaging statement about the US or the UK and off we go again.

The original thread is lost in the exchange of reparte.

Am I the only one who thought this show got tiresome the third or fourth time I saw it?

Am I the only one who thought this show got tiresome the third or fourth time I saw it?

No, I gave up a while back and put them all on ignore. It's much more peaceful now. I'm thinking of getting a scooter and thought I could get some good info here. Silly me.

No, just boring.

The original thread is lost in the exchange of reparte.

Am I the only one who thought this show got tiresome the third or fourth time I saw it?

Repartee is supposed to be witty, the slanging definitely isn't.

As Paul indicated many have given up, some nolonger visit the forum at all.

Brian

No, just boring.

It is inevitable that sooner or later a member of the "Slanging Gang" on either side of the pond will make a disparaging statement about the US or the UK and off we go again.



I know I can justifiably be placed in one of those 'gangs' but as you say the joke has well and truly gone past it's sell by date. It's a conversation killer that I want no part of anymore. :o

Pretty bad when one poster in particular see's the need to take it from the 'cooler into other areas of the forum:

Link (http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=137053)

- :(

Pretty bad when one poster in particular see's the need to take it from the 'cooler into other areas of the forum:

Link (http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=137053)

- :(

Questioning as to why a UK site has US dates is not a 'slanging match' - it is also true that the US influences have infiltrated our lives, it is also true that we are gradually losing our identity to the USA - it is also true that the next superpower will be the Chinese. Please tell me what is wrong with that post.

Just what exactly is your problem Ken? You can't wait to deliberately read the wrong things into my posts time after time and then make out you're the goody and I'm the baddie.

Col

No, I gave up a while back and put them all on ignore. It's much more peaceful now. I'm thinking of getting a scooter and thought I could get some good info here. Silly me.

I would be more than happy to discuss this topic. I have a Suzuki 400cc maxi scooter and investigated many others prior to purchase.

Col

Pretty bad when one poster in particular see's the need to take it from the 'cooler into other areas of the forum:

Link (http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=137053)

- :(

I think that there are 2 of us involved here, but I make no apology for my statement. I like the Americans (most) I have met, but after 8 visits to the States (business and pleasure) I have to admit to finding too many inflexible in accepting that the rest of the world does not march to their tune, infact I have had more problems with language there than anywhere, others nations make an effort to understand, but if you don't use the correct American term then forget it.

Brian

I think that there are 2 of us involved here, but I make no apology for my statement. I like the Americans (most) I have met, but after 8 visits to the States (business and pleasure) I have to admit to finding too many inflexible in accepting that the rest of the world does not march to their tune, infact I have had more problems with language there than anywhere, others make an effort to understand, but if you don't use the correct American term then forget it.

Brian

I'm glad you said that Bri - I'd be reported for daring to mention it:rolleyes:

Col

I think you (and anyone else) know to whom the reference was made.

As far as being inflexible, I'll try to make it a point to be more understanding to foreigners I meet. (As long as they leave their horses ass attitude at home :p)

:)
ken

I'll try to make it a point to be more understanding to foreigners I meet.

Another empty promise?

Col

Another empty promise?

Col

C**£$ Col you could start a fight in an empty room.

Brian

As far as being inflexible, I'll try to make it a point to be more understanding to foreigners I meet. ken

Pitty that doesn't extend the the US state dept. eh:rolleyes:

No, just boring.

It is inevitable that sooner or later a member of the "Slanging Gang" on either side of the pond will make a disparaging statement about the US or the UK and off we go again.

The original thread is lost in the exchange of reparte.

Am I the only one who thought this show got tiresome the third or fourth time I saw it?

Absolutely not. I don't come around as much any more because it just isn't as fun as it used to be. Oh well...

I don't come around as much any more because it just isn't as fun as it used to be. Oh well...

The last reason you gave was the family etc. still it's not unknown for a female to change her mind, is it?:rolleyes::p

The last reason you gave was the family etc. still it's not unknown for a female to change her mind, is it?:rolleyes::p

It's expected. :mad: ;)

I have been pretty busy lately, but still it's not as much fun to come here since everyone has been driven off.

Just ignore the last 12 posts (exept for MsGorilla and me).

Maybe they'll turn on each other.

Reminds me a bit of "taggers". They just do it to draw attention to themselves.

It's expected. :mad: ;)

I have been pretty busy lately, but still it's not as much fun to come here since everyone has been driven off.

Most of them have just moved on in the way that people do in real life everywhere;)

Just ignore the last 12 posts (exept for MsGorilla and me).



So you include Brian in that list and your own Kenny Babe,Daniella, etc. That's odd only two minutes ago you blamed two posters here for all the troubles in the world:rolleyes:

The last reason you gave was the family etc. still it's not unknown for a female to change her mind, is it?

It's expected.

And you don't deviate from your expectation. It's difficult to know what the real reasons are - depends on the day of the week I suppose.

Col

Reminds me a bit of "taggers".

I'm unclear as to what a 'tagger' is - can you clarify please?

At least when KennyBabe does his daily boring namecalling routine he uses names like "horses ass" or "braindead" which are fairly international - not nice mind you, but fairly advanced diction for a Redneck I believe.

Col

I'm unclear as to what a 'tagger' is - can you clarify please?

At least when KennyBabe does his daily boring namecalling routine he uses names like "horses ass" or "braindead" which are fairly international - not nice mind you, but fairly advanced diction for a Redneck I believe.

Col

I ride a 1992 BMW K75
This forum does have a topic.

I ride a 1992 BMW K75
This forum does have a topic.

Those bikes have opposing cylinder engines don't they. I understand they're really smooth running engines...

:)
ken

Those bikes have opposing cylinder engines don't they. I understand they're really smooth running engines...

:)
ken

That would be the BMW 1500K. The 750 is essentially the 1500 engine cut in half.

65,000 km which is just nicely broken in for a BMW.

Those bikes have opposing cylinder engines don't they.

That would be the BMW 1500K.

The BMW K series doesn't have the horizontally opposed cylinders - that's the R series. The K has a normal engine format.

The biggest K series is the 1200 not a 1500 (unless there's a special for the USA market) ref (http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/bikes/group.jsp?g=sporttouring) Honda do a 1500 in the Goldwing - but those things are like riding a battleship - hopeless in traffic.

I used to have a K75S - (3 cylinders)

Col

The K75 is a beautiful bike and very easy to ride.
I don't know why BMW stopped making this engine.

There was a K1500, only available to police services in the 90's. The Toronto Police auctioned theirs off a few years ago. They were returning to Harleys. I was sorely tempted. But then I would be sorely tempted to "open it up" as well. There was also the problem of service, since the local BMW dealer's mechanics had never seen one.

Those bikes have opposing cylinder engines don't they. I understand they're really smooth running engines...

:)
ken

Any engine compared to a Hardly, is smooth running:eek:

A Harley is an exceptionally expensive motorcycle.
It's actually a $10,000 motorcycle with a $30,000 logo stamped on it.

A friend of mine who we tour with loves Harleys and is constantly putting down my Beamer. One day we did a quarter-mile on a deserted strip of highway. My 750cc blew away his huge 88 cubic inch (the actual cc's of the Harley hog is a certain number between 12 and 14 which is considered unlucky in North America). Mind you if we had done a half mile he may have caught me.

Anyway, to address your point Rich, the Harley engine is not that rough once it warms up. The problem is it may take an hour for it to warm up.

Mind you if we had done a half mile he may have caught me.


Only if you stopped by the roadside

Here's a question for you - what percentage of cars in the USA have automatic transmission?

I wasn't aware any American was capable of using a proper manual gear shift. We're led to believe all US cars are automatic. . . . . :confused:

It's a bit like NASCAR where they are incapable of making left and right turns so always go in an oval track to avoid confusion.

Col

ColinEssex, I have seen this in several of your anti-US threads.
You insinuate that all Americans act a certain way because you 'ARE LEAD TO BELIEVE'.
Maybe you should do some research since you are so misinformed?

Until you have traveled to all 50 states and at least 20 towns in each state please don't presume that all US Citizens are the same in all ways.

I for one don't think that all British Citizens act/talk like you.

Not that it will affect the prejudice, but I drive a manual, my brother has one, and both of my daughter's cars are manual. There are certainly more vehicles with automatics here, but there are a lot of manuals as well.

I read an interesting piece recently about bikes, and the development of the Harley vs most others. The basic premise was that the Harley developed the way it is because of the long distances involved with driving around the US vs the UK, Europe, Japan, etc. In other words, the longer average distances between cities (particularly in the American west) encouraged the development of a bike that was larger and more comfortable to ride for longer periods.

You insinuate that all Americans act a certain way because you 'ARE LEAD TO BELIEVE'.


I didn't say that - I used the word 'led' not 'lead' :rolleyes:

The reason I do, is that it's usually referring to a common generalisation we have in the UK about something in the USA. i.e. all USA cars are automatic, or all southerners hate darkies. Some people here whine on when I generalise.

I am usually seeking clarification. Is there a problem with that? If I just state categorically 'all USA cars are automatic' then I'm accused of USA bashing and KennyBabe will report me.

Col

Paul,

If you're thinking of getting a bike, I have no advice. I "made" them take
that clause off my license a few years ago. I really don't care if I never
get on a bike again.

However, I have a lot of friends (mostly Harley riders) that bike recreationally
and they seem to enjoy it. They tend to bar hop a bit, but ...

I haven't followed this thread too closely, but if you just wanted to cruise
I'd think that the BMW is the smooooothest option available. The Harleys
aren't that rough a ride (just loud), but that's their choice.

Anyway, I've been removed from this for years but I just wanted to respond
so that you'd get some feedback without a lot of sniping.

Enough of this, back to why we're here in the first place.

btw, do MVPs have caddies? I could like document your work or something.

see ya,
Wayne

As stated in another thread, the majority of cars in the US are automatic transmission. This is not because Americans can't drive manual transmissions, it' simply the way the auto market is over here.

There are a number of vehicles (and not just the luxury ones) where a manual transmission is not even an option. Starting around the 70's automatics just took over the market.

It is quite possible to go through your entire driving career without ever having seen a clutch. My sister is in her 40s and I had to teach her to drive a manual last year.

I will leave it to others to determine if this is a good or bad thing.

Thanks for the info Wayne. I do golf, so a caddie would be welcome (but no laughing...at my golf OR my alleged MVP abilities!). :D

I didn't say that - I used the word 'led' not 'lead' :rolleyes:

The reason I do, is that it's usually referring to a common generalisation we have in the UK about something in the USA. i.e. all USA cars are automatic, or all southerners hate darkies. Some people here whine on when I generalise.

I am usually seeking clarification. Is there a problem with that? If I just state categorically 'all USA cars are automatic' then I'm accused of USA bashing and KennyBabe will report me.

Col

Or the generalization that all Brits are pompous, arrogant, obnoxious xenophobes who can't stand anything unless its British especially if it's American.

Wait a minute... :D

NOTICE: THIS IS A JOKE.

Paul,

No laughing, I'll caddy for you.

At least we got a word in edgewise here.

See you back on the forum.

Wayne

Or the generalization that all Brits are pompous, arrogant, obnoxious xenophobes who can't stand anything unless its British especially if it's American.

Wait a minute... :D

NOTICE: THIS IS A JOKE.

Not really, I've known plenty like that

I for one don't think that all British Citizens act/talk like you.

Lets hope not

Col, it seems to me, through reading most of this garbage that you and Ken have been bickering about, that you are the epitome of every brit I have ever met in my entire life. Granted I haven't met many, but all the ones that I have look down their noses with that arrogant, pompous attitude. You seem to want to exclude yourself from this group.

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Originally Posted by statsman
Or the generalization that all Brits are pompous, arrogant, obnoxious xenophobes who can't stand anything unless its British especially if it's American.

Wait a minute...

NOTICE: THIS IS A JOKE.
Not really, I've known plenty like that

This is not to say that I am taking Ken's side. He doesn't ever want to stand by what he says and applogizes at ever turn. I do not wish to be lumped in with him.

I am asking you now to not generalize about Americans and I will make no further generalizations about Brits. I come here for information and to be entertained, not to be insulted.

He doesn't ever want to stand by what he says and applogizes at ever turn.

Would you mind pointing out a few examples?

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ken

IMHO anyname could be meant as an insult depending on who is using it. I don't take offense to anyone calling me a redneck because I see them as a person who grew up on the farm and works hard in the sun all day. But some use it as a term for poor drunks with personal hygiene issues from the south...

Anywho... Why aren't you a scouser?

When not too long before you were taking it as an insult.

You start arguments and then back down, what kind of redneck are you?
I'm proud to be a beer drinking, dirt track racing, down home redneck. I would never take it as an insult. When somebody tries to use it as one, it does nothing more than show their ignorance. Be proud of what you say and stand by it, don't appologize for it when somebody takes offense to it, afterall, wasn't that the point with all of your namecalling?

Where did I appear to take it as an insult?

One more thing Ken,
Reporting people? I don't know why anyone would unless there was something very personal and/or offensive. I have come across neither of these in anything that I have read.

Like those who call people rednecks

I guess I assumed you meant it as an insult

Both copied directly from your posts.

So with 43 posts to your credit you're going to be the judge and jury? Hang around a while and put up with his insults. Then if you want to hear my side I'll be glad to share it.
I think you'll find that he is the only one that I consistently take issue with.

'One more thing Ken...' <- That's just a tad presumptuous isn't it :)

:)
ken

Where did I appear to take it as an insult?

I didn't say it as an insult. I said Ken was a redneck gunslinger.

He's a redneck because of living in Georgia and he's a gunslinger because he carries a gun (sometimes) - where's the insult? Isn't it the truth?

I also agreed with Stat

Or the generalization that all Brits are pompous, arrogant, obnoxious xenophobes who can't stand anything unless its British especially if it's American.

It's true in many many people in the UK - more so since 2003 oddly.


Col

No I haven't been here long, the difference between me and you is that I won't put up with his crap.

I won't get in feeble arguments with someone who obviously doesn't know what he is talking about and merely makes generalizations according to what stereotypes he's heard about.

I have said nothing about being "Judge and Jury." I haven't judged anybody, I am merely making comment as to what I have read. Why let him get to you? This is not the place for the useless bickering.

I think you'll find that he is the only one that I consistently take issue with.


Needle, namecall and provoke you mean:)

Col

I won't get in feeble arguments

You're making a good start:rolleyes:

Col

I didn't say that you used it as an insult. I was making a point to Ken who asked for an example.

You still seem to be excluding yourself from the pompous, arrogant group. Whether you agree with stat or not doesn't make any difference.

I am trying to make one point, YOU TWO BICKER TOO MUCH ABOUT STUPID MEANINGLESS THINGS.

Both copied directly from your posts.

If you'll look back you'll find that he's been calling me that for some time trying to get a rise out of me but I just ignored him. And I also think you would see that he called me that as a result of me calling him a horses ass. And I called him a horses ass for making 8 million insults towards the US. Now I'm not sure about you, but where I come from, instead of letting his remarks go unchecked like most of the other more patient American posters around here, my calling him that would make me pretty good redneck. Not that I'm crazy about being lumped into that great big melting pot of every person that could be considered a redneck, but still I thought I had been being pretty tolerant of his ignorance...

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ken

FACT1: Brits are anti-American
FACT2: That won't change until the liberals here have ruined America trying to be like them
FACT3: FACT2 is of more concern to me, and should be of more concern to all Americans, than someone in this forum. Hence why I ignore 1 british person's opinions about the U.S.

If he wants to go around acting mightier than thou, let him. He'll be stoned for it in the end.

I really don't want to take issue with you on this one but I think your fact one is wrong and displays the same dogmatic ignorant attiude as Col's about the US.

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ken

True, I should have been more choosy about my words. Col is anti-American; I'm sure he's not the only one. There are several British people in this forum who are far from anti-American and it's not fair to lump them in with those who do think like Col and who are anti-American.

Sorry - Didn't mean to get down on you so fast. Most of the Brit's here are extremely nice. I'm sure most of them aren't keen on the way we Americans prance around like we own the world but they have a more civil means of expressing it than Col does...

(Do you really run short track?)

:)
ken

True, I should have been more choosy about my words. Col is anti-American; I'm sure he's not the only one. There are several British people in this forum who are far from anti-American and it's not fair to lump them in with those who do think like Col and who are anti-American.

There's real American logic for you:rolleyes:

I am trying to make one point, YOU TWO BICKER TOO MUCH ABOUT STUPID MEANINGLESS THINGS.

I've been telling that Higg fellow to stop arguing and listen to sense for years, but hey he's American, what can you expect:rolleyes:

FACT1: Brits are anti-American
FACT2: That won't change until the liberals here have ruined America trying to be like them
FACT3: FACT2 is of more concern to me, and should be of more concern to all Americans, than someone in this forum. Hence why I ignore 1 british person's opinions about the U.S.

If he wants to go around acting mightier than thou, let him. He'll be stoned for it in the end.

oi!!
bloody yank - you having a pop at me (LOL)
your comments in Fact1 are the mirror of Colins - allamericans are xxx..

no some are , but please don't think we all are, there are thinks that the US has done that i dont agree with, (and i am angry with - but i am equally angry with my own goverment for the same reasons).

I don't like your president (hes a dick), i don't like my own either
I don't like the way some (please note some) US people almost worship their president.. , this is alien to most Brits and to most europeans , we see our leaders as public servants - corrupt but nessary evils , the view we are given of the US ( by some of the posters here) is that you suppor the presedent no matter what he's does - this is a red rag to a bull to us Brits espically when he'snot the brightest person in the world..

That's why they'll never vote for the current black contender, he's too intelligent for them

It's interesting that my and Rich's posts attract so much discussion. Especially from those who say they ignore them.

However, I have made a decision.

I shall not log in for one week starting on monday, and, after that time I shall see what so called sensible discussions have taken place.

Ken and I have a mutual understanding of each other, in fact, we PM each other on a frequent basis.

So, Mr Kinger43, when you have been here for several years, you'll know that I am not anti-American, you'll also know that I like many American things, you'll also know that banter between me and Ken is (on some occasions) 'staged' just to provoke responses. Listen and learn son, you've got a long way to go to be as good as Ken.

Col

>blush<

If history repeats itself, the place will be a bore without you...

:)
ken

YOU TWO BICKER TOO MUCH ABOUT STUPID MEANINGLESS THINGS.

They also bicker about Stupid IMPORANT things.


After you've been with us a while King you will realize the importance of tuning them out and just get on with what you came to say.

FACT1: Brits are anti-American
FACT2: That won't change until the liberals here have ruined America trying to be like them
FACT3: FACT2 is of more concern to me, and should be of more concern to all Americans, than someone in this forum. Hence why I ignore 1 british person's opinions about the U.S.

If he wants to go around acting mightier than thou, let him. He'll be stoned for it in the end.

Correction.

1. I am british and I am not anti-american so FAct 1 is incorrect.

2. Many of my american friends are not liberals. I respect their right to their own opinions. so Fact 2 is wrong.

3. Since Fact 2 is incorrect Fact 3 is also incorrect. Many British people who are not anti-american wish that Britain could be a little more like America. Cheaper prices etc.

FACT1: Brits are anti-American
FACT2: That won't change until the liberals here have ruined America trying to be like them
FACT3: FACT2 is of more concern to me, and should be of more concern to all Americans, than someone in this forum. Hence why I ignore 1 british person's opinions about the U.S.

If he wants to go around acting mightier than thou, let him. He'll be stoned for it in the end.

WOW now you have really done it now.

I for one are certainly not Anti American, I for one feel that USA is a great nation which could be far greater if that idoit Bush was not in charge.

I personally, and I know alot of other brits feel the same, akin ourselves more with our American cousins than we do with our so-called neighbours the europeans.

I feel that you need to, as everyone has said, hang around abit see what goes on and then get involved, rather than just make carte blanch judgements about a nation of people.

At least when Col and Rich are making judgements against the US, 99% of the time they have information to support there claims.

Where is your information to support your sweeping judgement?

Somehow I doubt that Kinger43 will give a rats Ar*e about what we have said, he appears to be narrow minded and blinkered.

And my information to support my claim is your posts on this thread.

oi!!
your comments in Fact1 are the mirror of Colins - allamericans are xxx..


You are correct. Thats why I corrected myself. I should have chosen my words more wisely.

That's why they'll never vote for the current black contender, he's too intelligent for them

Obama is far from intelligent. This man will ruin America, as will any of the other Democratic contenders if elected to office.

Not that the current Executive Branch is much better.

Correction.

2. Many of my american friends are not liberals. I respect their right to their own opinions. so Fact 2 is wrong.



I am an American and I am not liberal and most Americans are not liberal. But the Democrats that keep getting elected to office are the most left people in America. Most democrats that I know don't think like the people that they vote for, I don't know why they keep voting for them and then complain about them.

Somehow I doubt that Kinger43 will give a rats Ar*e about what we have said, he appears to be narrow minded and blinkered.

And my information to support my claim is your posts on this thread.

You are correct. I don't give a rat's a*s about what SOME of you have said, because you appear to be more narrow-minded than me. You judge me by a few posts, aimed mostly at one person, and one quote, which I regret posting and which I corrected. "Judge not lest ye be judged."

True, I should have been more choosy about my words. Col is anti-American; I'm sure he's not the only one. There are several British people in this forum who are far from anti-American and it's not fair to lump them in with those who do think like Col and who are anti-American.

I'm sorry I made the original statement. I was in a rush and posted something that I shouldn't have which was quickly called to my attention and I quickly corrected.

I think some of this is being misread and taken out of content - Kinger43 was relying to a set view by a individual person (guess who)
and these comments where responding to this - not in general - as has been pointed out by myself and retracted by K43 and modified - I have not take offense over this , and I don't think anyone esle should ..g

Thank you Gary, I certainly did not intend on starting an international war on this forum.

No problem..
given some of the comments by a few ,I would blow my top as well -
Chill, relax - a lot of people don't read the whole post, just the last screen - and this can warp people view not know the full in's and outs - gets even worse whne the post becomes a book.

g

You are correct. I don't give a rat's a*s about what SOME of you have said, because you appear to be more narrow-minded than me. You judge me by a few posts, aimed mostly at one person, and one quote, which I regret posting and which I corrected. "Judge not lest ye be judged."

Kinger,

You can judge me how you want..

But hey, I am starting to get to like you, you do not take any sh*t.

You'll blend in well to these forums..welcome.

I look forward to having an argument with you in the near future :D:D;)

Wow, a mid-atlantic truce. Who'd have thunk it :p

http://www.thelensflare.com/large/sunrise_7101.jpg

Thank you Gary, I certainly did not intend on starting an international war on this forum.

What kind of redneck are you - :mad:

(Just kidding :)

ken

Wonder what Col will have to say?
:)

I certainly did not intend on starting an international war on this forum.

Why not? It is after all the American way, especially when someone dares to disagree with them:rolleyes:

Wonder what Col will have to say?
:)

He's not in this week, so you'll have to wait on that one. ;)

Looks like Rich is trying to take is place while he is out though.

Looks like Rich is trying to take is place while he is out though.

They actually work in tandem which is why you won't hear too much from Rich either this week.

Rich speaks for himself and most of the free world too:cool:

Rich speaks for himself and most of the free world too:cool:

If you speak for that many people then you definately speak too much!:D

Rich speaks for himself and most of the free world too:cool:

Rich is also delusional at times. :cool:

They actually work in tandem which is why you won't hear too much from Rich either this week.

Maybe they're the same person. Two identities, one person.:eek:

Maybe they're the same person. Two identities, one person.:eek:

Now thats a scary thought :eek::eek:

Like Michael and Latoya Jackson.....you never see them in the same place or room together..mmmm......me thinks..... :eek:

Of cause I am not implying in any shape way or form that Col or Rich are akin to an aleged child molester. :o

Maybe they are Micheal and Latoya Jackson:eek:

Maybe they are Micheal and Latoya Jackson:eek:

Don't be idiotic, both Col and I are intelligent:rolleyes:

Don't be idiotic, both Col and I are intelligent:rolleyes:

Hmmm- are you sure...(LOL)

Of cause I am not implying in any shape way or form that Col or Rich are akin to an aleged child molester.

Michael Jackson has been cleared of child molestation charges - as far as I am aware - the same cannot be said about Col or Rich, so they are not similar to MJ in that sense at all.

Nor is Michael Jackson similar to acne - since that usually comes on the face of teenagers, but he is similar to whiskey.

How is Micheal Jackson similar to whiskey? Whiskey is good, Micheal molests little boys (convicted or not, he did it).

They both come in tots.

U did ask.

tots?

???

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tot

You're right, we had to ask. :(

:)
ken

LOL :D That's a good one.

LOL :D That's a good one.

Odd sense of humour...:confused:

I can appreciate a good bashing of Micheal Jackson. I mean any person who can go from a black man to a white woman in that amount of time and then do what he has done in recent years deserves to be bashed on.

I can appreciate a good bashing of Micheal Jackson. I mean any person who can go from a black man to a white woman in that amount of time and then do what he has done in recent years deserves to be bashed on.

Was it just crass stupidity or paedophilia ?:confused:

It's a paedophile! Why are you confused about Micheal Jackson, I thought you were intelligent?

It's a paedophile! Why are you confused about Micheal Jackson, I thought you were intelligent?

I've never given him the benefit of the doubt, but then I'm not a fan of his either. What confuses me is why a jury found him innocent of any crime:confused:

I agree, the problem, I think was the way the case was presented. There were too many screw ups on the part of the prosecution that shed too much doubt in the case that was brought forward.

I've never given him the benefit of the doubt, but then I'm not a fan of his either. What confuses me is why a jury found him innocent of any crime:confused:

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It's California, the same state who aquitted OJ and put Marth Stewart in prison.

The state figured it would cost less than having to attend to the minority protest, etc.

Martha was charged and convicted in New York.
That's the same state that got Leona Hemsley.

Two soul sisters. If they had just fessed up at the start they would have got off with their wrists slapped and a fine. Instead, their collective "I'm above the law" mentality got them time in the pen.

It's a paedophile! Why are you confused about Micheal Jackson, I thought you were intelligent?

My judgement is still open on MJ, yes he is completely wierd!!! Yes he is a complete Loony!!!

A peodophile.....mmmm not sure.

People like him because of his strange lifestyle and nature will always be prown to people trying to take advantage and earn a quick buck.

So until there is cast iron proof..my judgement is open.

I can appreciate a good bashing of Micheal Jackson. I mean any person who can go from a black man to a white woman in that amount of time and then do what he has done in recent years deserves to be bashed on.

Has anybody got to the bottom of why he turned himself white?

Is it a genetic illness, or is it an illness of the mind?

In my opinion, Martha didn't really do anything wrong. It was just a little word of mouth that she decided she could capitolize on. Hell, I've done that, not nearly to that extent though.

I've always looked at MJ as a great entertainer. His personal life however is very strange.

It's my understanding that there is a skin disease among black people that causes sections of the skin to turn white and that MJ has it. This is why he has been dying his skin.

That does not explain his ongoing plastic surgery. Lets hope at some point he gets his face looking the way he wants before whats left of it melts.

Hi so-called pedophilia - after the first trail his lawyers told him he should never be in the company of a child alone. Pity he didn't heed the advice.

His children - go out, "buy" a wife, have kids, get rid of wife - scary

One wonders how long it will be (considering the above) before he's broke.

His children - go out, "buy" a wife, have kids, get rid of wife - scary


Scary for the wife or kids?:confused:

My judgement is still open on MJ, yes he is completely wierd!!! Yes he is a complete Loony!!!


As an adult would you have somebody elses teenage children in your bed overnight?:confused:

My judgement is still open on MJ, yes he is completely wierd!!! Yes he is a complete Loony!!!


As an adult would you have somebody elses teenage children in your bed overnight?:confused:

I wouldn't have anybody's kid in my bed overnight unless she was somebody's good looking 19 year old kid;)

I wouldn't have anybody's kid in my bed overnight unless she was somebody's good looking 19 year old kid;)

Spot on.... :D:cool:

You guys are terrible. :rolleyes::D

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DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO DO THIS?

Scary for the wife or kids?:confused:

All of the above although the wives have been well compensated.

All of the above although the wives have been well compensated.

Elvis would have been turning in his grave...
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Of course he would have to be dead first to do this, which we all know is not true....is it :confused:

Elvis would have been turning in his grave...

Of course he would have to be dead first to do this, which we all know is not true....is it :confused:

Last I heard Elvis was living on a sheep farm in Montana with Jimmy Hoffa. :D

All of the above although the wives have been well compensated.

Ya, but the kids just got F-ed in the ass:eek:

Ya, but the kids just got F-ed in the ass:eek:

Say what you mean don't hold back :D

Ya, but the kids just got F-ed in the ass:eek:

And the head for the next 60 yrs:mad:

Michael Jackson has been cleared of child molestation charges - as far as I am aware - the same cannot be said about Col or Rich, so they are not similar to MJ in that sense at all.


I strongly object to this slur that Rich and I are "child molesters" and have not been "cleared". It's a totally obscene post.

I expect better from you Paul - you're not a Yankee:mad:

Col

Perhaps Paul was alluding to the fact that you were not like MJ as you are not child molesters so there was no need to have you cleared...and just worded it poorly.

I have never been cleared of terrorism, murder, drug dealing, rape , child abuse, spousal abuse, illegal parking, drink driving, prostitution, tax evasion, hijacking, armed robbery - the list is endless.

By your logic Col that makes me a one man crime wave. :rolleyes:

Perhaps Paul was alluding to the fact that you were not like MJ as you are not child molesters so there was no need to have you cleared...and just worded it poorly.

or put even more simply, never been brought to trial for it. Which is nice. :p

or put even more simply, never been brought to trial for it. Which is nice.

well put!

:D

I expect better from you Paul - you're not a Yankee:mad:

Col

Which makes his high standard of articulation all the more surprising :D

Is that week up already? :confused:

Is that week up already? :confused:

Yes, it's been nice without you.

It'll be good to get back arguing with KennyBabe on monday, I've missed his weak attempts at sniping - although being a crack shot animal killer you'd think he would be a good sniper.

Col

Back on track: Scooters

Is this a problem in the UK?

Link (http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/ten_year_ban_for_pulling_a_wheelie/1969.html)

Back on track: Scooters

Is this a problem in the UK?

Link (http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/ten_year_ban_for_pulling_a_wheelie/1969.html)

Well the penalty is not so draconian here, but it's illegal to pull wheelies, no control over the bike
It won't be that long before the Nanny state bans powerful bikes anyway:eek:

It won't be that long before the Nanny state bans powerful bikes anyway:eek:

For your own good obviously. :eek::p

I have always reserved the right to determine for myself what is in my own best interests.
It's a right we should all exercise.