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Mike375 03-04-2008, 08:09 PM Why do so many posters have their locality....a secret
I know it is not unique to this site.
What really puzzles me is the posters (asking questions) whose native language is not English....and their post looks like something from a 20 year old done via the mobile phone:D....If they had their location they would get a better response.
As a group, the Americans on different sites seem to be the most secretive.
As a side note, why do you think the vast majority of posters on this site have no locality and are good for no more than 2 or 3 postings.
David Eagar 03-04-2008, 09:26 PM Possibly for the same reason they hide behind aliases?
Ron_dK 03-04-2008, 09:38 PM ...If they had their location they would get a better response.
Why ?
I don't think the location has any relevance to the response.
The ones who have specific questions, will get specific answers, regardless
of the location.
As a group, the Americans on different sites seem to be the most secretive.
How would you know if the location/country is not in the posters profile ?
ChrisO 03-04-2008, 10:53 PM I totally agree with Mike on this.
Stating a location can help in a couple of ways…
1.
It can alert us to the possible use of different regional settings. For example, date formats, date separators, decimal separators and list separators can have an effect on the building of SQL strings and charts in particular.
2.
Even more difficult, in fact if we don’t know about it it’s almost impossible to pick, is the use of a non-English version of Access. Since Rak is from the Dutch mountains let’s look at the Dutch version. If we are building an SQL string in a procedure and pass that procedure a Boolean of 0 then the English version of Access will convert that 0 to False. The SQL string now has False in and that’s OK. If we run the same code in the Dutch version the 0 is translated into Waar and is included in the SQL string. It works in English but not in Dutch because the SQL parser only knows English, (SQL was once called Structured English Query Language (SEQUEL))
1. can be tested by us changing our regional settings to the users if we know what those settings are.
2. we can’t test because our version is in English and their’s may not be.
As to why they leave it blank I take the view that either they don’t know it would help and/or they are simply being lazy.
Regards,
Chris.
Mike375 03-04-2008, 11:27 PM Possibly for the same reason they hide behind aliases?
In the past some site owners frowned on using "real name". The reason being the poster might not be the person.
Mike375 03-04-2008, 11:29 PM How would you know if the location/country is not in the posters profile ?
On guns/hunting and car sites it is very easy to pick who is American, European and Australian.
GaryPanic 03-05-2008, 12:00 AM Doesn't bother me one way or the other, however if we knew x was from Mars then we might pitch our response aimed att his level etc
Kinger43 03-05-2008, 10:35 AM What really puzzles me is the posters (asking questions) whose native language is not English....and their post looks like something from a 20 year old done via the mobile phone:D....If they had their location they would get a better response.
I agree with Mike. Posts that look like what Mike specifies here (although I would think more like 16 year old girl) are very difficult to read. Personally, if I could see the location it would make it easier to decipher because I would know what language they speak.
Brianwarnock 03-05-2008, 01:38 PM I agree with Mike on this plus it would explain delays in response due to time differences.lus if you know that the first language may not be English no matter how well written, then I would avoid idiomatic phrases etc
Brian
Ron_dK 03-05-2008, 10:00 PM ....let’s look at the Dutch version. If we are building an SQL string in a procedure and pass that procedure a Boolean of 0 then the English version of Access will convert that 0 to False. The SQL string now has False in and that’s OK. If we run the same code in the Dutch version the 0 is translated into Waar and is included in the SQL string. It works in English but not in Dutch because the SQL parser only knows English, (SQL was once called Structured English Query Language (SEQUEL))
Did you test that Chris ?
Just noted that an approx. 90 % of Access user in NL are working with
the English version. Even on a Dutch Access forum, I have never come across problems with using Dutch/English version.
But hey, I probably belong to that 90% group.
ChrisO 03-05-2008, 10:25 PM >>Did you test that Chris?<<
Since I do not speak Dutch, or have a Dutch version of Access, I had to track down the error with a friend that does and has.
(It’s the only reason I know that Waar in Dutch is False in English and that Access has a Dutch version.)
Pass it on to the 10% of the people who are using the Dutch version and see what you get and please post back here with the replies.
Regards,
Chris.
Mike375 03-05-2008, 10:28 PM Is there a disadvantage to having locality listed in the profile???
ChrisO 03-05-2008, 11:12 PM G’day Rak.
Actually Waar in Dutch = True in English (Shows you how much I know.)
But the problem still stands, SQL in both languages are not always combatable.
Attached is a test database that should work in English but not in Dutch.
Regards,
Chris.
boblarson 03-05-2008, 11:19 PM ...SQL in both languages are not always combatable.
Chris:
Freudian slip, maybe? :D
I know that they aren't always compatible.
ColinEssex 03-05-2008, 11:20 PM Is there a disadvantage to having locality listed in the profile???
Only if you are based in the USA. They're most probobly adhering to their state dept advice and not admitting they are from the USA.
Much better to say you're Canadian - or if you're really game, say you are based in Australia. Then no-one takes you seriously unless it's how to drink from a tinny or cook on a barbie.
Col
ChrisO 03-05-2008, 11:28 PM Well I was close…
SQL in both languages are always combatable.
:D
Is there a disadvantage to having locality listed in the profile???
Is there an advantage?:confused:
Ron_dK 03-06-2008, 12:00 AM G’day Rak.
Actually Waar in Dutch = True in English (Shows you how much I know.)
But the problem still stands, SQL in both languages are not always combatable.
Attached is a test database that should work in English but not in Dutch.
Regards,
Chris.
Chris,
I can't test this, since I don't have a Dutch Access version.
Maybe I overlooked something , but I can't see any queries or SQL in this Dbase.
So where would an error occur ?
Cheers, Ron
Nb. : It is true that waar = true ;)
ChrisO 03-06-2008, 12:19 AM G’day Ron.
>>It is true that waar = true?<<
Perhaps, but that’s the point I’m trying to make.
Without the Dutch version, or any other natural language version of Access, it’s impossible to test.
I took the time to remove the fix for other natural language versions of Access so that people using other versions could test it and debug it for themselves.
Please post it as is on the site you mentioned and see what turns up from the other 10%.
If anyone want’s to try to debug this in the English version of Access then just go for it.
Good luck,
Chris.
Mike375 03-06-2008, 12:59 AM or if you're really game, say you are based in Australia. Then no-one takes you seriously unless it's how to drink from a tinny or cook on a barbie.
Col
Yep, it is an easy life down here:D
ColinEssex 03-06-2008, 02:24 AM Yep, it is an easy life down here:D
I know that, We lived there for 3 years. In Maroubra. Worked at Prince Henry Hosp, Little Bay (it's probobly closed now)
Col
David Eagar 03-06-2008, 02:53 AM or if you're really game, say you are based in Australia. Then no-one takes you seriously unless it's how to drink from a tinny or cook on a barbie.
Col
I resemble that statement!!!!!!!!
Rabbie 03-06-2008, 04:03 AM I resemble that statement!!!!!!!!
I'll drink to that.
ColinEssex 03-06-2008, 05:21 AM I resemble that statement!!!!!!!!
John Laws is good though. Does he still advertise Mortein fly spray?
Col
Mike375 03-06-2008, 06:46 AM I know that, We lived there for 3 years. In Maroubra. Worked at Prince Henry Hosp, Little Bay (it's probobly closed now)
Col
All no more.
For most of my insurance selling years I have concentrated on dentists, young doctors and medical specialists. Prince Henry was always my favourite place to have the interviews. The army hut style.
The young doctors that resided at Prince Henry were on a real winner.
John Laws recently retired, the end of last year.
Brianwarnock 03-06-2008, 06:54 AM Is there an advantage?:confused:
I frequently wonder whether you read anybody elses posts.
Brian
Mike375 03-06-2008, 08:12 AM Check 2nd post on this thread. Chris mentioned this in his post on this thread.
http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=145022
Brianwarnock 03-06-2008, 08:24 AM Check 2nd post on this thread. Chris mentioned this in his post on this thread.
http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=145022
Not a good example as one date is 7/31/06, kinda points at which way things are formatted, but the principle remains. :D
Brian
I frequently wonder whether you read anybody elses posts.
Brian
No need for the sarcasm Brian, the reasons given for the advantage are pretty thin
Brianwarnock 03-06-2008, 10:32 AM No need for the sarcasm Brian, the reasons given for the advantage are pretty thin
They may be thin, you may even disagree with them, but some were stated, therefore your question was not needed, or silly ,or whatever, why ask?
Brian
They may be thin, you may even disagree with them, but some were stated, therefore your question was not needed, or silly ,or whatever, why ask?
Brian
Why continue to ask politicians to justify their actions?
Len Boorman 03-06-2008, 11:20 AM But I think it is interesting to know where in the world the person I am hopefully helping is living.
Does give some ideas as to how quick they will give feedback
L
But I think it is interesting to know where in the world the person I am hopefully helping is living.
L
Certainly agree with that, especially if it's some far flung exotic location:)
ColinEssex 03-06-2008, 12:41 PM All no more.
For most of my insurance selling years I have concentrated on dentists, young doctors and medical specialists. Prince Henry was always my favourite place to have the interviews. The army hut style.
The young doctors that resided at Prince Henry were on a real winner.
John Laws recently retired, the end of last year.
Prince Henry hosp had it's own little private beach, we used to go down there for a paddle in the lunch hour with the office girls and nurses:eek:
We lived on Maroubra Bay Rd, and used to do the shopping at Maroubra Junction.
My Mrs used to work at Randwick hosp as a biochemistry technician.
John must be knocking on a bit now, he had a fabulous voice for radio DJ and was the voiceover for dozens of TV ads, in the 70's he used to be on 2UW and did the phone-in show, he was very opinionated.
I also remember going up Paramatta Rd to buy a car - all the car sales places were on that road, I wanted to buy a Ford Falcon, but ended up with a Morris 1100.
Col
David Eagar 03-06-2008, 12:53 PM John must be knocking on a bit now, he had a fabulous voice for radio DJ and was the voiceover for dozens of TV ads, in the 70's he used to be on 2UW and did the phone-in show, he was very opinionated.
I also remember going up Paramatta Rd to buy a car - all the car sales places were on that road, I wanted to buy a Ford Falcon, but ended up with a Morris 1100.
Col
Lawsy did his dash when he got caught out espousing the 'benefits' of companies in his news opinions that he was being payed for by those companies in his 'commercial' role. He and Alan Jones both did miraculous u-turns once deals were done
Parramatta Road is still wall-to-wall car yards (& we think the Yanks are bad)
A Morry Million, now there was car
Mike375 03-06-2008, 03:27 PM I also remember going up Paramatta Rd to buy a car - all the car sales places were on that road, I wanted to buy a Ford Falcon, but ended up with a Morris 1100.
Col
We could always tell how many English people were living in Australia by the number of Morris 1100s that were sold. :D
John Law's ratings dropped right off in recent years and I think that was because he softened his image to become an "all things to all people". Fox News. Alan Jones, Sydney Telegraph and others have proven the best ratings come when you have an extreme approach. Same occurs with selling in general. You can only ever get part of a market so best to try and obtain 100% of your potential market.
Prince Henry hosp had it's own little private beach, we used to go down there for a paddle in the lunch hour with the office girls and nurses:eek:
Col
And you came back:eek::confused:
ColinEssex 03-07-2008, 02:42 AM And you came back:eek::confused:
Of course - why would anyone want to stay there?
The sole objective was to get enough money for a house deposit - when we had enough we came home and bought a house. Simple.
Col
Of course - why would anyone want to stay there?
Col
The weather :eek:;)
David Eagar 03-07-2008, 03:34 AM Of course - why would anyone want to stay there?
The sole objective was to get enough money for a house deposit - when we had enough we came home and bought a house. Simple.
Col
It's bludging parasites like you that has ruined our country!!!!
One would choose to stay because of the delightful people you meet there (?)
Kinger43 03-07-2008, 04:38 AM [QUOTE=David Eagar;680623] It's bludging parasites like you that has ruined our country!!!! [QUOTE]
Second!
ColinEssex 03-07-2008, 09:15 AM It's bludging parasites like you that has ruined our country!!!!
There was no way we could afford a house in the UK. Australia PLC paid our fare and we stayed over the required 2 years. We fulfilled our part of the agreement then came home after 3 years and bought a nice house we would never have afforded on UK salaries.
One would choose to stay because of the delightful people you meet there (?)
Staying was never an option, it was purely financial.
Col
David Eagar 03-07-2008, 11:44 AM In the early eighties, had a delightful year in Sevenoaks. I came home skint because of English prices!
There's something not quite right here
ColinEssex 03-07-2008, 01:36 PM In the early eighties, had a delightful year in Sevenoaks. I came home skint because of English prices!
There's something not quite right here
That's Thatcher for you.
We worked out that we earned 3x our UK salary in Oz. That meant with the average price of a UK house at £14,000 we needed only to get £5,000 for the deposit. We spent £500 on an overland trip from Oz lasting 3 months, and we had enough for the deposit and to buy furniture etc.
This period was from 1973 to 1976.
Being as we had a free trip out there anyway, we didn't care about buying a place in Oz, we rented a flat. We took what we could get away with and ended up with a nice house in Sussex.
Luvvly Jubbly
Col
Brianwarnock 03-08-2008, 02:51 AM That's Thatcher for you.
Col
No that was the previous labour governments that destroyed our economy, just as New Labour has been quietly doing, or have you not noticed the increased taxes, perhaps you blame the town hall for the doubling of Council Tax, and being a government employee Gordon hasn't stolen you pension pot.
Brian
Sum Guy 03-08-2008, 01:19 PM An old political trick.
The upper level of government brings in a program just before election time. They fund it until everyone gets used to it. Then they download it on the next lower level of government saying we're not going to fund it anymore. If you want it to continue, you pay for it.
This is generally followed a year or two later by the second tier downloading it on the third tier.
ColinEssex 03-08-2008, 01:19 PM No that was the previous labour governments that destroyed our economy, just as New Labour has been quietly doing, or have you not noticed the increased taxes, perhaps you blame the town hall for the doubling of Council Tax, and being a government employee Gordon hasn't stolen you pension pot.
Brian
Its hard to say, they all seem to screw things up - I know what the current mob are doing, but who would do any better - not that Eton public school millionaire for sure. I do think it's odd that the current mob give £40 billion to Northern Rock, yet the air ambulances are funded by donations and not the NHS.
As for Thatcher, someone had to do something about the 1970's strike attitude - whether it was right or wrong what she did is infinately debateable. Her love affair with Ronnie RayGun didn't help matters. As with most people, one tends just go with the flow and look after your own patch as best you can.
Fortunately my pension was a final salary one, the NHS has (or had) one of the better pension schemes. Many NHS employees opted out and were tempted into private schemes, but sadly they came a cropper due to mismanagement of the schemes.
I'm glad I stayed with the NHS.
Col
Alisa 03-09-2008, 06:39 AM As a group, the Americans on different sites seem to be the most secretive.
To respond to part of the original question, I HATE to be in any way associated with what "my" incompetent, corrupt, and evil government is doing. So that is why I don't list my location, although now you know what it is.
Brianwarnock 03-09-2008, 06:43 AM To respond to part of the original question, I HATE to be in any way associated with what "my" incompetent, corrupt, and evil government is doing. So that is why I don't list my location, although now you know what it is.
There are only a few here who assume that a government represents all of the views of all of the inhabitents, if I thought that anybody thought that New Labour represented any of my views I think I would take an overdose washed down with copious supplies of Malt Whisky.
Brian
There are only a few here who assume that a government represents all of the views of all of the inhabitents, Brian
Gosh, that number's gone up from just the two previously accused of this trait, who else has been added to the list?:confused:
GaryPanic 03-09-2008, 10:20 AM In the early eighties, had a delightful year in Sevenoaks. I came home skint because of English prices!
There's something not quite right here
10 miles away from me - and if you could afford 7oaks - bloody hell. thats pretty expensive property belt- even the cheap end is ouch ..
and we trouched on pensions again..
most pensions would be in a better state if they had not had Brown do a tax grab on them , he did it at the worst possible time -he took a large chunk at the excat time that the pensions were at there lowest - (particaluly due to market and in part down to a certain amount of mismanagement by a select few companies.
Alisa
that comment could of come from me ....
David Eagar 03-09-2008, 10:58 AM [QUOTE=GaryPanic;681156]10 miles away from me - and if you could afford 7oaks - bloody hell. thats pretty expensive property belt- even the cheap end is ouch ..[QUOTE]
Actually, I had it pretty good - did an exchange with a local who went to Aus when I went to England. The good part was that work paid the rent (it was only the terraces near Tescos).
The bad news was that I still went home skint, but probably due to the amount of sightseeing we did. You're right though, Sevenoaks, while being very delightful, is certinly out of my price range.
GaryPanic 03-10-2008, 01:30 AM [QUOTE=GaryPanic;681156]10 miles away from me - and if you could afford 7oaks - bloody hell. thats pretty expensive property belt- even the cheap end is ouch ..[QUOTE]
Actually, I had it pretty good - did an exchange with a local who went to Aus when I went to England. The good part was that work paid the rent (it was only the terraces near Tescos).
The bad news was that I still went home skint, but probably due to the amount of sightseeing we did. You're right though, Sevenoaks, while being very delightful, is certinly out of my price range.
It is a wonderful town, 1/2 from London, and in the middle of Kent Countryside ,
It was a place I have looked at living in but only if I work in London .
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