View Full Version : Illegal Independence of Kosovo


dbmanalser84
03-22-2008, 01:42 PM
What do you think, from the International Law point of view, about this unilateral and illegal act?

David Eagar
03-22-2008, 02:04 PM
What do you think, from the International Law point of view, about this unilateral and illegal act?

Very little, the whole region has had centuries to sort themselves out and their still a mess

ColinEssex
03-22-2008, 02:38 PM
There are many petty squabbles all over the world - it's stupid, boring and shows exactly how mankind will eventually be the downfall of mankind. Global warming et al is the lesser of any problems we have.

Serbia and Kosovo and the Croats did nothing to prosper the Yugoslavian tourist industry. It is a beautiful country.

Col

statsman
03-23-2008, 02:12 AM
If things were so great there...why did they declare independance?

You've got to have a disgruntled population before you can declare independence and make it work.

Rich
03-23-2008, 04:45 AM
If things were so great there...why did they declare independance?

You've got to have a disgruntled population before you can declare independence and make it work.

Like Quebec,Hawaii, etc you mean?:confused:

Sum Guy
03-23-2008, 06:16 AM
Like Quebec,Hawaii, etc you mean?:confused:

There have been two referendums in Quebec on independance. Both failed badly.

You would have to be a pretty negative sort to be disgruntled about anything living in Hawaii :D

Brianwarnock
03-24-2008, 09:00 AM
There have been two referendums in Quebec on independance. Both failed badly.



And no doubt like the EU they will keep having them till they get the result they want and then ban them ever occurring again.

Brian

statsman
03-24-2008, 11:44 AM
And no doubt like the EU they will keep having them till they get the result they want and then ban them ever occurring again.

Brian


Interesting point.
Was there any sort of vote in Kosovo beforehand?

ColinEssex
03-24-2008, 12:14 PM
You would have to be a pretty negative sort to be disgruntled about anything living in Hawaii :D

Without Steve McGarrett in charge of the cops there these days, I'll bet it's a lawless society - a bit like the rest of the USA in fact.

Col

Sum Guy
03-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Only the Yanks could take paradise and turn it into a slum.

Additional evidence: Somoa and the US Virgin Islands

Pauldohert
04-01-2008, 01:08 AM
Without Steve McGarrett in charge of the cops there these days, I'll bet it's a lawless society - a bit like the rest of the USA in fact.


I had to google who he was, I am sure my dad has talked about this program in the past. Anyhow - its now Dog isn't it.

pono1
04-01-2008, 06:52 PM
Only the Yanks could take paradise and turn it into a slum...

Densely populated in spots...but a slum? Hawaii? Bookem, Dano!

Sum Guy
04-03-2008, 03:15 AM
There are sections of Honolulu and Hilo that rival the worst parts of New York, Chicago and Los Angeles (not quite as bad as Cleveland, but getting there).

Paul mentioned "Dog". If you've seen his show you've seen some of the spots he goes to collect his miscreants.

ColinEssex
04-03-2008, 05:18 AM
There are sections of Honolulu and Hilo that rival the worst parts of New York, Chicago and Los Angeles (not quite as bad as Cleveland, but getting there).

And most other cities and towns in the USA it seems

Col

pono1
04-03-2008, 06:10 AM
There are sections of Honolulu and Hilo that rival the worst parts of New York, Chicago and Los Angeles (not quite as bad as Cleveland, but getting there).

Paul mentioned "Dog". If you've seen his show you've seen some of the spots he goes to collect his miscreants.

I have lived in Honolulu and Los Angeles and Chicago and worked in NY...I think you're off on this one... And Dog is a bit of a miscreant himself...

Brianwarnock
04-03-2008, 06:18 AM
I have lived in Honolulu and Los Angeles and Chicago and worked in NY...I think you're off on this one... And Dog is a bit of a miscreant himself...

But did you live in the worst parts?

Brian

pono1
04-03-2008, 06:19 AM
But did you live in the worst parts?

Brian

Just visited them on the weekends...

Rich
04-03-2008, 11:18 AM
Just visited them on the weekends...

Like the inlaws?;)

statsman
04-03-2008, 01:24 PM
I have lived in Honolulu and Los Angeles and Chicago and worked in NY...I think you're off on this one... And Dog is a bit of a miscreant himself...

For those of you who are unaware DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER is a show on US television.

Dog hunts down people his wife has issued bail bonds to when they fail to appear in court. US law states bail must be paid in cash (for the most part). Bail bondsmen exist to promise the money for the bail. If the bailed person can't be tracked down, the bail bondsman has to pay the cash for the bail.

A US Supreme Court decision from the 1800's states that a person who has posted bail for another person can take extrodinary steps to return that person to custody when they skip.

Dog got into trouble a few years ago when he went to Mexico to get a fleeing criminal. Seems the laws in Mexico are different. Dog was charged with kidnapping.

Dog was realeased on bail and then failed to appear in court. He was locked up in Hawaii where he lives when Mexico requested extradition. He had an abundance of weak excuses why he didn't appear but they couldn't overcome the obvious truth...IF ANYONE SHOULD KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO TO COURT, IT'S DOG.

Rich
04-03-2008, 01:33 PM
Well I'll be doggone:confused:

statsman
04-03-2008, 05:03 PM
You might also say that Dog was dogging it.

The pun is the lowest form of humour.

Brianwarnock
04-04-2008, 08:09 AM
You might also say that Dog was dogging it.
.

"dogging" has a homosexual connotation in this country, is that what you meant?

Brian

pono1
04-04-2008, 11:04 PM
"dogging" has a homosexual connotation in this country, is that what you meant?

Brian

Why do you ask? :eek::D

ColinEssex
04-05-2008, 12:45 AM
So why is 'dog' called 'dog'?

I've never heard of him before but he seems to be a modern day Clint Eastwood or Lee Van Cleef bounty hunter, no doubt licenced to shoot people if they refuse to co-operate.

Isn't that the job of the police to recapture bail absconders? or is it sub-contracted out to anyone who likes killing or inflicting injury on people.

He can't be very good if he didn't know the differences between US law and Mexican law - must be a bit thick I suppose - all violence and no brain. . . . . . hmmm, maybe he is a cop after all?

Col

Sum Guy
04-05-2008, 05:16 AM
Dogging it - N. American term - giving less than a full effort to a task.

Dog does not carry a gun. He does carry a large economy sized can of pepper spray. Bail jumpers must be returned to custody ALIVE or the bond is forfeited.

I believe the term "Dog" refers to his tenacity in tracking down the miscreants. His given name is Duane

The police are certainly authourized to arrest bail jumpers, but it's not their top priority. The bail bondsman is usually given 30 days or so after the bailee fails to appear in court to produce them or pay the cash. Its a lot cheaper to pay Dog $5,000 to track them down than to pay the court the $50,000 bail.

As stated earlier, he of all people should have known he had to go to court. It was at this point that I stopped watching the show.