View Full Version : I like Ike (or not)
georgedwilkinson 09-11-2008, 08:35 AM Looks like everybody in Houston is closing up shop for hurricane Ike. I've got to leave work at 1 (it's 11:30 now). Fortunately, they're leaving the servers and my pc on until Friday afternoon so I can get some work done from home.
I just talked to ShaneMan and he took his wife and daughter back home to Dallas last week, so no worries there.
So, if you don't hear from me for a while, you'll know where I am. I know you'll miss my witty remarks (LOL).
boblarson 09-11-2008, 08:40 AM George:
Good luck with everything!
rustyCrVx 09-11-2008, 08:52 AM By the way things are so far, I'm not sure we're closing up at all tomorrow and certainly not today. Lots of family from near the coast is movin up into my house and my grandparents' vacation home. Nice and cramped.
I wanna go home!:(
...so sleepy zZzZzZz
KenHigg 09-11-2008, 09:16 AM Looks like everybody in Houston is closing up shop for hurricane Ike. I've got to leave work at 1 (it's 11:30 now). Fortunately, they're leaving the servers and my pc on until Friday afternoon so I can get some work done from home.
I just talked to ShaneMan and he took his wife and daughter back home to Dallas last week, so no worries there.
So, if you don't hear from me for a while, you'll know where I am. I know you'll miss my witty remarks (LOL).
Hope you're all safe - Send a field report if you have to bugg out and can get to the net - :)
Stay safe and well and remember to get back in time to vote for Obama
Banana 09-11-2008, 11:29 AM http://www.legacyamericana.com/catalog/1208_detail.JPG
Looks like it's a good thing, George! Good luck and everything! :)
Ike was a good General but a crap President
Alisa 09-11-2008, 02:06 PM Looks like everybody in Houston is closing up shop for hurricane Ike. I've got to leave work at 1 (it's 11:30 now). Fortunately, they're leaving the servers and my pc on until Friday afternoon so I can get some work done from home.
I just talked to ShaneMan and he took his wife and daughter back home to Dallas last week, so no worries there.
So, if you don't hear from me for a while, you'll know where I am. I know you'll miss my witty remarks (LOL).
We will definitely miss your (not so) witty remarks, come back soon. :p
My stepson's flying out to Florida tomorrow to get married, I told him the place was too bloody dangerous, would he listen, NO. Now look ,everybody's leaving the place, still I guess he won't have to pass through the welcoming committee
KenHigg 09-11-2008, 02:18 PM My stepson's flying out to Florida tomorrow to get married, I told him the place was too bloody dangerous, would he listen, NO. Now look ,everybody's leaving the place, still I guess he won't have to pass through the welcoming committee
Make sure he stops in new england somewhere to rest his arms, its a long haul down the east coast with tropical head winds...:p
Make sure he stops in new england somewhere to rest his arms, its a long haul down the east coast with tropical head winds...:p
I told him the Canadian Rockies would be a far safer bet, but then he didn't take my advice on getting married either:mad::p
ShaneMan 09-11-2008, 02:37 PM I told him the Canadian Rockies would be a far safer bet, but then he didn't take my advice on getting married either:mad::p
Tell him to come on to Texas, we'll take care of him. Brian and Ms. Hazel stayed safe while they were here.:)
Tell him to come on to Texas, we'll take care of him. :)
I'm sure you would, oddly enough I was invited to the wedding, I could have taken a few hours out and pop around to visit one or two of you:)
ShaneMan 09-11-2008, 02:43 PM I'm sure you would, oddly enough I was invited to the wedding, I could have taken a few hours out and pop around to visit one or two of you:)
That would have been cool. We had the opportunity to have supper with Brian and Ms. Hazel, when they were here, and had a really good time. I thought is was really neat to have correspondence with someone, for years, over the internet and then get to meet them in person. I only wish we could have hung out for a couple days.
One day I'll have enough money to take a luxury cruise and pop over, whether I'll be allowed to get off the boat of course is a different matter
oumahexi 09-12-2008, 02:37 AM Be safe George.
MrsGorilla 09-12-2008, 01:48 PM One day I'll have enough money to take a luxury cruise and pop over, whether I'll be allowed to get off the boat of course is a different matter
We'll try not to tell the authorities you're coming so there will be no one at the docks to pick you up. ;)
We'll try not to tell the authorities you're coming so there will be no one at the docks to pick you up. ;)
Not even the local women of the night?:(
MrsGorilla 09-12-2008, 01:58 PM Looks like everybody in Houston is closing up shop for hurricane Ike. I've got to leave work at 1 (it's 11:30 now). Fortunately, they're leaving the servers and my pc on until Friday afternoon so I can get some work done from home.
I just talked to ShaneMan and he took his wife and daughter back home to Dallas last week, so no worries there.
So, if you don't hear from me for a while, you'll know where I am. I know you'll miss my witty remarks (LOL).
Good luck George. Hope your home and property stay safe down there. They're forecasting rain for us all weekend because we'll probably be getting the fallout from Ike. Of course, by the time hurricanes reach us up here they are back down usually to tropical depressions or lower, which means we just have an extended thunderstorm with occasional strong wind gusts. Tornadoes associated with it are what we have to look out for too with the hurricane pushing from one side and other weather patterns pushing from other sides.
MrsGorilla 09-12-2008, 01:58 PM Not even the local women of the night?:(
Are you sure they want anything to do with you? :eek:
Are you sure they want anything to do with you? :eek:
If they want to engage in a meaningful discussion on the current state of America then yes, where else could they obtain an honest answer?:p
MrsGorilla 09-12-2008, 02:07 PM If they want to engage in a meaningful discussion on the current state of America then yes, where else could they obtain an honest answer?:p
Because you would be an expert on that? :rolleyes:
Besides, you can ask any politician and I'm sure you'll get a truthful answer. :D
Because you would be an expert on that? :rolleyes:
Yes :cool::p
MrsGorilla 09-12-2008, 02:33 PM Yes :cool::p
Thanks for the grin. :rolleyes::D
Alisa 09-12-2008, 02:56 PM If they want to engage in a meaningful discussion on the current state of America then yes, where else could they obtain an honest answer?:p
Why, AWF ofcourse
Why, AWF ofcourse
Nah, there are too many Bush supporters here waiting to lead them astray:mad:;)
Alisa 09-12-2008, 03:06 PM Nah, there are too many Bush supporters here waiting to lead them astray:mad:;)
Isn't it tragic that McCain's name doesn't lend itself nearly so well to making fun of as Bush's name did?
Isn't it tragic that McCain's name doesn't lend itself nearly so well to making fun of as Bush's name did?
Give it time, give it time;)
Tell him to come on to Texas, we'll take care of him.
But not Galveston, eh:(
Alisa 09-13-2008, 06:50 AM Give it time, give it time;)
I'm sure there are comedians hard at work on it as we speak, I'm just waiting for them to come up with something really good, although I kind of like "McCan't" and "McBush".
Banana 09-13-2008, 06:53 AM I've seen McCardiac, McPain, McWar, or just Cain.
Alisa 09-13-2008, 06:54 AM I've seen McCardiac, McPain, McWar, or just Cain.
I like McPain, not sure I get McCardiac, is that a reference to his age? I know he has cancer, does he have heart disease too?
ShaneMan 09-13-2008, 07:55 AM But not Galveston, eh:(
Probably wouldn't be a good idea at the moment. Ike is just starting to move his after effects into our area. The wind is picking up and the rain is beginning. The weather says we'll get the most of it later today.
I'm sure there are comedians hard at work on it as we speak, I'm just waiting for them to come up with something really good, although I kind of like "McCan't" and "McBush".
Swop the a and u over, far more apt;)
statsman 09-14-2008, 10:56 AM Probably wouldn't be a good idea at the moment. Ike is just starting to move his after effects into our area. The wind is picking up and the rain is beginning. The weather says we'll get the most of it later today.
You know Ike is serious...they postponed the Houston NFL game.
Fifty2One 09-15-2008, 11:45 AM I hope all is well for the friends and families of those who post here - and everyone else in Texas where IKE came ashore. I can hardly believe the pictures on TV...
Brianwarnock 09-15-2008, 11:49 AM Probably wouldn't be a good idea at the moment. Ike is just starting to move his after effects into our area. The wind is picking up and the rain is beginning. The weather says we'll get the most of it later today.
So how did it go , did the gardens get a good watering or was it worse than that?
Brian
Brianwarnock 09-15-2008, 11:50 AM I hope all is well for the friends and families of those who post here - and everyone else in Texas where IKE came ashore. I can hardly believe the pictures on TV...
I'll go with that, let's hope we hear from the Houston people soon.
Brian
Alisa 09-15-2008, 11:58 AM I'll go with that, let's hope we hear from the Houston people soon.
Brian
I hope so - on the news they were saying it could be a month before the power is completely restored . . . sounds like Katrina all over again.
Fifty2One 09-16-2008, 08:28 AM Perhaps they could give some of those empty forclosure houses to the people who are homeless because of natural disaster. Seems a shame there are people without homes and available facilities while there are houses all over the USA sitting empty in towns and cities that have undisrupted infastructure.
I hope so - on the news they were saying it could be a month before the power is completely restored . . . sounds like Katrina all over again.
TessB 09-16-2008, 11:57 AM I'm sure you would, oddly enough I was invited to the wedding, I could have taken a few hours out and pop around to visit one or two of you:)
Why on earth wouldn't you go to your stepson's wedding?
And why is he getting married in Florida?
This makes no sense to me.
Oh well... you DO know Rich, that I've always wanted to meet both you and Col... as well as many many others I've met here in the past 6 years or so.
I have only ever had the pleasure of meeting Auto.
But if you do find yourself in Florida, my hope is that you would let me know where you are and give us a chance to meet up. eh?
Why on earth wouldn't you go to your stepson's wedding?
Flying and family politics;)
Oh well... you DO know Rich, that I've always wanted to meet both you and Col... as well as many many others I've met here in the past 6 years or so.
I have only ever had the pleasure of meeting Auto.
But if you do find yourself in Florida, my hope is that you would let me know where you are and give us a chance to meet up. eh
I'd love too really I would but unless I win the lottery to take a cruise I doubt it will ever happen;):(
georgedwilkinson 09-16-2008, 09:30 PM I hope so - on the news they were saying it could be a month before the power is completely restored . . . sounds like Katrina all over again.
Just checking in really quick. My family had to leave Houston because you can't get basic necessities (like ice, milk, and gasoline) and I can't work (no electricity or cell coverage). We weathered the storm well with little damage. The real story is the aftermath (no power and the related chaos). Seems nothing happens without electricity.
But we're quite happy north of Waco at my wife's family's home. We just arrived here a couple of hours ago and they did my laundry and folded my clothes. I could get spoiled here.
I haven't heard from any of the other AWF Houstonians. Hope all is well with them and theirs.
If y'all want some political fodder for some heated discussion you can speculate on what the impact to the refineries in the Houston area will do to national and international fuel prices. Or you could discuss why FEMA took so long to react or why you can't find out about FEMA's top secret "POD" locations until they're about to close. Sorry I'll have to miss the fun as I'm borrowing a computer and internet connection ever so briefly.
Have fun!
oumahexi 09-16-2008, 11:55 PM Glad the important things are ok George, friends and family :D
Alisa 09-17-2008, 06:37 AM Just checking in really quick. My family had to leave Houston because you can't get basic necessities (like ice, milk, and gasoline) and I can't work (no electricity or cell coverage). We weathered the storm well with little damage. The real story is the aftermath (no power and the related chaos). Seems nothing happens without electricity.
But we're quite happy north of Waco at my wife's family's home. We just arrived here a couple of hours ago and they did my laundry and folded my clothes. I could get spoiled here.
I haven't heard from any of the other AWF Houstonians. Hope all is well with them and theirs.
If y'all want some political fodder for some heated discussion you can speculate on what the impact to the refineries in the Houston area will do to national and international fuel prices. Or you could discuss why FEMA took so long to react or why you can't find out about FEMA's top secret "POD" locations until they're about to close. Sorry I'll have to miss the fun as I'm borrowing a computer and internet connection ever so briefly.
Have fun!
Glad to hear you are doing fine - don't worry, we haven't run out of topics for heated discussion yet, but we might, so come back soon :D
rustyCrVx 09-17-2008, 08:09 AM z0mg Ike was a b**ch! So effing crazy, I hate it! I got a bit lucky and hopped from household to household that had power after sweating my ass off the first two days and nights. I haven't had any acne in so long but there it was along with no clean clothes, no shower in two days due to the pathetic water pressure, cold (non-perishable) food, and easily angered ppl all around. It was AMAZING to get power back, but even after a few days post Ike, I'm definitely one of the lucky ones to have any. Lots of trees came amazingly close to smashing in our roof and other family members' homes, but we all got lucky (blessed?). Anyways, best of luck to you George, I think you made the right move getting out of here. I'm already back at work for my crazy boss that wanted us at work on Friday and has been trying to get us back in the office since Monday.
So yeah, that's my vented irritation at that bastard Ike.:mad:
georgedwilkinson 09-20-2008, 09:05 AM I just got back into town and got my internet hooked up. We're all doing fine and the area seems to be recovering well. At least there is enough gasoline available to prevent the long lines. For the most part, none of the traffic signals work so all the roads are very slow. And school doesn't start in my area until next Thursday (still no power over most of the area).
Banana 09-20-2008, 09:21 AM Welcome back, George.
Glad to see that everything is coming together, if slowly.
Guess Ike won't be getting your vote, will he? :)
And school doesn't start in my area until next Thursday (still no power over most of the area).
You're still at school? you certainly come across as more mature than that.....................
georgedwilkinson 09-20-2008, 09:37 AM Welcome back, George.
Glad to see that everything is coming together, if slowly.
Guess Ike won't be getting your vote, will he? :)
Not this time.
georgedwilkinson 09-20-2008, 09:40 AM You're still at school? you certainly come across as more mature than that.....................
Very astute of you to notice. But you're never really too old to learn, are you?
I'm pretty old but not so old that all my children have left the fold. I have a teenage child in school.
Very astute of you to notice. But you're never really too old to learn, are you?
Not at all spent a week in the classroom just a few weeks ago, no girls to distract the mind though:mad:
I have a teenage child in school
ah, the difficult years, starts at the age of about ten here now:eek:
Rabbie 09-20-2008, 12:36 PM Welcome back George. Glad to hear things are getting back to normal.
ColinEssex 09-20-2008, 01:39 PM but we all got lucky (blessed?).
No, just luck - nothing else.
Col
ColinEssex 09-20-2008, 01:41 PM You're still at school? you certainly come across as more mature than that.....................
There are some American posters here who appear not to have reached a mental age of 6 years old yet. Their English grammar is hopeless, they resort to name calling like a 6 year old. It's just yet another example of a failing education system.
Col
ColinEssex 09-20-2008, 01:56 PM Anyways, best of luck to you George, I think you made the right move getting out of here.
What's with all this mass evacuation business? It only seems to have been popular since the storm Katrina.
I thought that if you chose to live in a hurricane belt then you had to stay there armed to the teeth to defend your home from looters.
Col
Alisa 09-20-2008, 04:13 PM Welcome back George.
Fifty2One 09-22-2008, 05:08 AM Welcome back George.
Joe8915 09-22-2008, 05:14 AM Welcome back George.
georgedwilkinson 09-22-2008, 06:05 AM Grrrrrrrrrreat to be back!!!
Ron_dK 09-22-2008, 06:13 AM Poor soul, you missed us so badly ? :D;)
The_Doc_Man 09-22-2008, 09:25 AM Col, as uncivilized as we are over here in the (former) colonies, we CAN learn.
We evacuate because the weather forecast models are getting much better. We can correlate the predictions to pictures of various storm intensities. When the National Weather Service says we are going to get storm surges in a range that includes good odds of overtopping the levees, it is time to leave an area.
George, I can truly, honestly relate to your situation. We were lucky, too, as Gustav missed my neighborhood mostly. Just some downed power lines with no predictability as to which neighborhoods. My stepson, about 2-3 miles from us, lost power. So far as we know, our microwaves never even starting blinking. For us, power was continuous.
Our bigger concern was for what COULD have happened. (Col, you can read this - it might explain to you why we evacuate.) My mother-in-law has a degenerative back condition. We evacuated so we would have extra time to take care of a little old lady stuck in a wheel-chair or walker. When dealing with the handicapped, it ALWAYS takes twice as long as you think it should to get everything going. But you do that gladly for your family.
Of course, we also know about Katrina and her aftermath. Gustav could have been another Katrina if it had hit New Orleans square on instead of jogging west towards Houma and Lafayette first.
Glad to hear you're OK, George. Been there, done that, bought (and wore out) the T-shirt.
georgedwilkinson 09-22-2008, 09:29 AM Poor soul, you missed us so badly ? :D;)
Yeeeeeeeup.
The_Doc_Man 09-22-2008, 09:38 AM For what it's worth, Ike wasn't really that good a general as a strategist. A friend of mine who is a war buff educated me on this one. Dwight David ("Ike") Eisenhower was a West Point graduate who didn't excel in very much, but he was a logistics person without equal. Strategy he left to guys like Montgomery, Bradley, Patton, Mountbatten, and such. But he could -and did - make the wartime supply system work. He played the supply & logistics side of the war like a concert violinist on a Stradivarius.
Apparently, the U S Army knew that Ike wouldn't be a good battlefield commander, so they pigeon-holed him in an intermediate position for a while and let his career develop. But then the war broke out. The US Army knew that Ike would be a good man to head up the operations division if he had help from good strategists. So Ike was in charge and knew what his supplies would allow. He was the "practical" thinker on "what can we do with the supplies we have" when other guys like Patton were the "damn the supply lines, full speed ahead" types.
As a president, Ike understood... supplies and logistics. He was good for business because he know what was needed after the war to get business pumping. Which really DID happen. He wasn't great at labor issues and he surely wasn't the sharpest pencil in the knapsack when it came to issues of law or diplomacy. But then, he knew a lot of the players in the field of world politics and DID have some exposure in dealing with them. So he knew more than many people gave him credit for. I surely wouldn't call Ike one of the greatest presidents ever, but he wasn't anywhere near the bottom of the pack.
Banana 09-22-2008, 09:43 AM Grrrrrrrrrreat to be back!!!
Okay, that's not funny, Tony the Tiger. Please don't hack into poor Geroge's account again, mmkay?
;)
ColinEssex 09-22-2008, 01:29 PM Col, as uncivilized as we are over here in the (former) colonies, we CAN learn.
We evacuate because the weather forecast models are getting much better. We can correlate the predictions to pictures of various storm intensities.
It just seemed to me that GWB was trying to win back voters that he lost during Katrina and him not giving a toss for the people afterwards.
It was the first time I had heard of so many people evacuating a large city in America. The Mayor was whipping up panic by saying it was the worst storm due for a century and you'll die if you stay. That's all you need - Mayors are supposed to bring stability and calming order to things, not whip people into a panicking frenzy.
Then they go and do it again in Houston! By the time it hit, it seems it was no more than a rain shower. It still seems an over-reaction and a haven for looters.
Next time, people won't believe it and then they will suffer if it hits square on.
Col
The_Doc_Man 09-22-2008, 02:15 PM By the time it hit, it seems it was no more than a rain shower. It still seems an over-reaction and a haven for looters.
Colin, look up Galveston and see if there are any pictures posted for that area, which is just south of Houston.
Over 2 million people in Texas were without power for a few days. Galveston is worse. It might literally be MONTHS before people have any services available to help them start rebuilding. Galveston was not quite leveled. Don't know what news services or pictures you were seeing, but what we've seen on the local telly is pretty convincing. That WAS a potential killer storm.
Alisa 09-22-2008, 02:22 PM Not only that, I heard that owners of beach front properties won't even find out for a year whether they will be allowed to rebuild or not.
MrsGorilla 09-22-2008, 03:27 PM It just seemed to me that GWB was trying to win back voters that he lost during Katrina and him not giving a toss for the people afterwards.
It was the first time I had heard of so many people evacuating a large city in America. The Mayor was whipping up panic by saying it was the worst storm due for a century and you'll die if you stay. That's all you need - Mayors are supposed to bring stability and calming order to things, not whip people into a panicking frenzy.
Then they go and do it again in Houston! By the time it hit, it seems it was no more than a rain shower. It still seems an over-reaction and a haven for looters.
Next time, people won't believe it and then they will suffer if it hits square on.
Col
There is no pleasing you, is there? If there is no evacuation (which, by the way, there was for Katrina also), then GWB doesn't care (which doesn't make any sense anyway since Bush isn't responsible for calling hurricane evacuations). If there is an evacuation, it's an overreaction. Maybe you would like to have stayed around for this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2880737722_85a520935f_o.jpg
Here (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html) is the original source, affiliated with the Boston Globe newspaper, BTW.
georgedwilkinson 09-22-2008, 05:04 PM OMG. There are a couple of things that amaze me.
1. How did that one house stay standing? I'd like to hire the contractor who built that house to build my next home.
2. Why did 3 smart people take the bait?
MrsGorilla 09-22-2008, 08:11 PM OMG. There are a couple of things that amaze me.
1. How did that one house stay standing? I'd like to hire the contractor who built that house to build my next home.
I was thinking something along those lines while I was looking at that picture. I was reminded of that old joke about making the whole airplane out of whatever the "black box" is made of, same thing applies here. :D
2. Why did 3 smart people take the bait?
I know. :rolleyes: I usually just ignore, but occasionally have to pop in with something. :cool:
Not only that, I heard that owners of beach front properties won't even find out for a year whether they will be allowed to rebuild or not.
Where will they borrow the money from to re-build yet again?:confused:
Alisa 09-23-2008, 06:18 AM Where will they borrow the money from to re-build yet again?:confused:
Thats what federal flood insurance is for.
rustyCrVx 09-23-2008, 07:49 AM By the time it hit, it seems it was no more than a rain shower. It still seems an over-reaction and a haven for looters.
Next time, people won't believe it and then they will suffer if it hits square on.
Col
LOL ya sure it was just a rain shower... I didn't realize people's homes get demolished in your everyday thunderstorms. Must be shitty living wherever you do. Next time I'll just chill in my home while it falls around me because I don't want people looting and the government lies about the severity of the so-called "hurricanes". They just photoshop the weather services...
Besides, I didn't hear about any looting in Houston, just in New Orleans.
rustyCrVx 09-23-2008, 07:52 AM 1. How did that one house stay standing? I'd like to hire the contractor who built that house to build my next home.
Someone just told me that house was destroyed during Rita so they hired a contractor to make the whole thing be able to withstand hurricanes. It obviously paid off, but I don't think they'll be having many neighborhood friends for a while.
Banana 09-23-2008, 08:27 AM What *does* puzzle me, however, is that houses among such place doesn't seem to be suited specifically for withstanding hurricanes.
Even the most primitive and backward natives know how to build a shelter that can withstand the recurring disaster (think of the huts perched on a frameworks of sticks in Africa to survive the monsoon that runs through the area).
Surely it would be something a bit different... I'm just going to make a wild guess as a way of example: would a pyramidal house be more resistant to high winds blowing off the roofs? Should it have drainage ten times of that what is normally expected for most building (e.g. a gravel foundation for example)? Or just make it all concrete bunkers & pillboxes?
I don't think I'm going to stop anybody from wanting to live there, and I'm sure there's several good reasons to do so. I just would think someone would have figured out optimal design for the area instead of doing what the rest of country are doing with stick-built houses...
Alisa 09-23-2008, 08:30 AM Why spend more money to build something sturdier when the government will pick up the tab to rescue you and then rebuild your house everytime it is destroyed?
rustyCrVx 09-23-2008, 08:42 AM Even though I don't personally really have any, I would think people would hate to lose certain sentimental valuables that can't be evacuated every time a storm is coming through those types of high-risk areas. Such as fine china, your favorite recliner, big screen tv that was a gift, collectables, dead grandma's stuffed dog, you know that sort of stuff. Not always easy to replace some things for some people.
Besides, who wouldn't want to be the only pyramid on the block:p
Fifty2One 09-23-2008, 08:47 AM Why do people insist on rebuilding houses in a high risk area? Would it not make more sense to build somewhere that you would not have to be replacing a dwelling every couple of years?
What a rediculous risk and sensless waste of resources!
rustyCrVx 09-23-2008, 08:51 AM Well I would say it's nice to be on the beach but Galveston's a pretty nasty beach in itself, disregarding shopping and restaurants. Besides, haven't you learned people are generally stubborn? Come try to convince those people that have been living there their whole lives and see where it gets you.
Alisa 09-23-2008, 08:52 AM The problem is, it's NOT every couple of years, it could be 1 year or 100 years between hits for any one area, and people have short memories.
boblarson 09-23-2008, 08:57 AM Would it not make more sense to build somewhere that you would not have to be replacing a dwelling every couple of years?
The thing is, that a disaster can happen once every year or once in every 100 years. There is no "timetable" that nature gives you. So, people will take the chance. Plus, it isn't easy to just move somewhere else. You have to have a job, housing, etc. So, where would everyone move to? It will affect those other areas and there's no guarantee that things will be any better there. In most areas there is the threat of major earthquakes, you have tornado areas and even volcano zones (of which I'm in). So, there isn't many places you can go that you are guaranteed to not have something happen to you.
So, given that - it may be that the known, even if it is that hurricanes will likely occur, is more calming than the unknown (will I have a job, where will I go, will I like it there, what kind of housing can I get, etc.).
Just a thought.
georgedwilkinson 09-23-2008, 09:09 AM And some people just love the beach. Others love woodlands. People live in places they like.
sandy6078 09-23-2008, 09:35 AM According to one article that I read, the inside of the house did not hold up so well. Water was still able to get in and do considerable damage.
Not only that, I heard that owners of beach front properties won't even find out for a year whether they will be allowed to rebuild or not.
Referring to Alisha's thread. There is a law on the Texas books known as the Texas Open Beaches Act. Under the law, the strip of beach between the average high-tide line and the average low-tide line is considered public property, and it is illegal to build anything there.
The state has repeatedly invoked the law to seize houses in cases where a storm eroded a beach so badly that a home was suddenly sitting on public property.
Banana 09-23-2008, 09:42 AM According to one article that I read, the inside of the house did not hold up so well. Water was still able to get in and do considerable damage.
So... *drumroll* waterproof the house! Or something. Surely this can't be rocket science?
The state has repeatedly invoked the law to seize houses in cases where a storm eroded a beach so badly that a home was suddenly sitting on public property.
How odd. If it was to force the owner to pay for moving their house off the property, that's perfectly fine, but to seize the house.... seems to me they're overdoing it a tad.
Alisa-
Believe me, I'm appalled that I'm paying for some dumb schmuck's beachfront property. I'd like a house, please! Want to live there? Insure it yourself, not on my or anybody else's dime!
Well I would say it's nice to be on the beach
There's plenty of sand in Arizona isn't there?
Joe8915 09-23-2008, 10:18 AM The houses still stand in Key West. I just can't understand how they never seldom have any damage at all and these are old homes at that.
I just saw some photos of the hurricane, its wonder more people didn't get killed.
rustyCrVx 09-23-2008, 10:31 AM There's plenty of sand in Arizona isn't there?
Yes... since sand alone = beach.
Yes... since sand alone = beach.
I'm sure someone could put a pond there
ColinEssex 09-24-2008, 01:34 PM LOL ya sure it was just a rain shower... I didn't realize people's homes get demolished in your everyday thunderstorms. Must be shitty living wherever you do. Next time I'll just chill in my home while it falls around me because I don't want people looting and the government lies about the severity of the so-called "hurricanes". They just photoshop the weather services...
Besides, I didn't hear about any looting in Houston, just in New Orleans.
Perhaps if you built your houses of bricks instead of wood, maybe they would stand up to the storms a little better.
Try using 20th century building materials instead of 15th century stuff.
Col
rustyCrVx 09-24-2008, 02:11 PM Now you're just being a failed troll.
Perhaps if you built your houses of bricks instead of wood, maybe they would stand up to the storms a little better.
and, indeed, to Big Bad Wolves.
Vassago 09-26-2008, 06:32 PM Perhaps if you built your houses of bricks instead of wood, maybe they would stand up to the storms a little better.
Try using 20th century building materials instead of 15th century stuff.
Col
My friend's brick home was not only destroyed by flood waters and debris, but completed gutted out by Ike. So much for that theory.
Rabbie 09-27-2008, 12:57 AM Now you're just being a failed troll.Surely, Failed is a little harsh:D
ColinEssex 09-27-2008, 01:35 PM My friend's brick home was not only destroyed by flood waters and debris, but completed gutted out by Ike. So much for that theory.
That is not a reason not to use bricks. I'm guessing that a higher percentage of brick built houses stood up better than wooden ones.
Using your reasoning, I would not use a car because a wheel fell off one once.
Remember the three little piggies story?
Col
The_Doc_Man 10-10-2008, 09:56 AM When you see a picture like the one posted earlier, and you have experience with hurricanes and storm surges, the first question you ask is "Was that where the house stood originally? Or was it moved there?" A co-worker friend of mine told me that during the height of Katrina's punch, she stood in her daughter's house on the second floor of said house, knee deep in water, and watched her entire house float down the road. Apparently intact until it ran into a big building that used steel-frame construction.
Many slabs got "scoured" by the storm surge but the houses showed up in many strange places that you would not have anticipated. Nor would you have expected them to still be identifiable - but they were.
Remember the three little piggies story?
Col
Yes, more commonly known as the Bush,Chenny and Rumsfield gang;)
georgedwilkinson 10-10-2008, 03:31 PM Rich: "Ditto"
Rich: "Ditto"
Hey George here's another Ditto for Republicans
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jxHUZ-vz0qO7-XDTuwaMb3l6Pi5Q
Brianwarnock 10-11-2008, 03:10 AM Rich: "Ditto"
This is sure gonna help your post count. :D
Brian
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