Just to continue. Wazz has replied a PM to me, I am hoping to find out who deleted my thread with no notice and who deleted my posing with no notice.

I am still awaiting a response from Bob re his comment about saying I have "mental issues" following a comment I made about John Lennon's death.

Nice thread Rich.

Col

Please, DNFTT!

I now know who deleted my thread and post in another thread. I don't know the reasoning behind it though - but I'm happy to let that drop for now.

I'm still waiting on BobbyBabe to explain his remote incorrect diagnosis. So until I get that I may have to keep this thread alive.

I suppose I could tackle Bobby in another forum. . . . . . . .

Col

I'm still waiting on BobbyBabe to explain his remote incorrect diagnosis.

I am gonna ask how you know for sure his diagnosis is incorrect. If for example, you did have mental issues I'm sure you wouldn't know about them or ever admit to them.

I am gonna ask how you know for sure his diagnosis is incorrect. If for example, you did have mental issues I'm sure you wouldn't know about them or ever admit to them.

Why is it necessary for me to do that? Surely if someone makes an accusation then it is their role to substantiate that accusation.

Anyway, it's immaterial - there's no way Bob has the nerve to post here so I'll just bump this thread every now and then to let him know I haven't forgotten.

Col

Obsessive Compulsiveness is a mental disorder...

Obsessive Compulsiveness is a mental disorder...

I have a slight case of that myself.
Some things, I just can't let go.....
Like my drinking glasses in the cabinet... they must all be grouped together in rows. Tall round ones in one line, short round ones in another, tall square blue ones in another.... I can't stand it when they are in random places.

My husband says, "They are in the cabinet! They are put away! Why does it matter what kind of order they are in?"

I'm NOT a neat freak! Don't let me mislead you. Just CERTAIN things must follow a certain order.

I have a slight case of that myself.
Some things, I just can't let go.....
Like my drinking glasses in the cabinet... they must all be grouped together in rows. Tall round ones in one line, short round ones in another, tall square blue ones in another.... I can't stand it when they are in random places.

My husband says, "They are in the cabinet! They are put away! Why does it matter what kind of order they are in?"

I'm NOT a neat freak! Don't let me mislead you. Just CERTAIN things must follow a certain order.

http://img.tfd.com/wn/BB/625DE-cuckoo-clock.gif

:D:D:D

Obsessive Compulsiveness is a mental disorder...Exactly. The longer, and more intensively you pursue this, Colin, the closer you keep coming to proving Bob's point.

I think Bob has the upper hand as Col has been reduced to a situation like one of those little dogs that barks but no one cares:)

I think Bob has the upper hand as Col has been reduced to a situation like one of those little dogs that barks but no one cares:)

Until they bite you. Always keep your eye on little dogs.

Col

I have a slight case of that myself.
Some things, I just can't let go.....
Like my drinking glasses in the cabinet... they must all be grouped together in rows. Tall round ones in one line, short round ones in another, tall square blue ones in another.... I can't stand it when they are in random places.

My husband says, "They are in the cabinet! They are put away! Why does it matter what kind of order they are in?"

I'm NOT a neat freak! Don't let me mislead you. Just CERTAIN things must follow a certain order.

Do you ever watch "Monk"? LOL, he's just as loopy.

Seriously, every time I meet someone with OCD I hope it will rub off, I'm the totoal opposite. Not sentimental, won't clean it if it looks ok and, well lets just say I had a friend who once offered to come round and tidy my cupboards for me... :p

On the other hand, it works out just fine because I don't have too much time for my own housework, between looking after two sets of pensioners, working full time and trying to build a small business that will keep me from going mad during my own retirment...

Until they bite you. Always keep your eye on little dogs.

Col

It's not really the bite that hurts it's where they bite, mid calf :eek:

to proving Bob's point.
Which was what exactly?:confused:

Until they bite you. Always keep your eye on little dogs.

ColOr hump your leg

Which was what exactly?:confused:

Pretty obvious from context. Bob (reportedly) says Colin is a nutter, Colin deals with this by following Bob around forever, muttering accusations. Hmmm..

LMAO Vass!
Good one.

Do you ever watch "Monk"? LOL, he's just as loopy.


Yes. I love Tony Shaloub. I'm nowhere near as bad as he but I completely identify. Crooked pictures on walls also drive me mad.

Pretty obvious from context. Bob (reportedly) says Colin is a nutter, Colin deals with this by following Bob around forever, muttering accusations. Hmmm..

Lets get this straight. Bob made an accusation which may or may not be true - I am not qualified to know, as Bob made a remote diagnosis, I am guessing he is. Then he disappeared for months therefore, I was unable to discuss this accusation with him, nor could he elaborate on his thoughts.

Bob returns, so naturally I ask for clarification of his comment as this is the first opportunity I have to do so. So far Bob has refused to discuss the comment either publically or privately via PM (which I am happy to do if he would allow PM's in his profile)

I would have thought common courtesy would at least allow me to have some sort of reply from Bob re the comment, especially as Bob is supposed to be regarded as some kind of higher being by some members here because he knows a bit about Access.

I am not "following Bob around forever", if I get a suitable reply then the matter is closed - as it is with the person who deleted my thread. I want this closed, as do most others I suppose.

Col

For those who need reminding, I made a comment about Americans and John Lennons death.

What is it that makes people hold a grudge so long?

We were invited round to my daughters house to celebrate my birthday last night, it turned to disaster, another family fight, so what? We'll live through it.

People who matter said things that hurt to the core, but we forgive. Why should the words of a stranger hurt any more than those of the people you love? They shouldn't, we shouldn't let them.

Anger is poision. Sometimes there is no answer that will fix it, sometime we just need to learn to let go and move on. Life is too short!

LMAO Vass!
Good one.



Yes. I love Tony Shaloub. I'm nowhere near as bad as he but I completely identify. Crooked pictures on walls also drive me mad.
I loved his assistant:eek:;)

OK, well, I truly hope you get it all sorted out in the end, Colin.

OK, well, I truly hope you get it all sorted out in the end, Colin.

It would be nice.

Col

Col
If I were in your position I would have come to the conclusion that Bob knows that he should not have made the comment he did, even if it was a throw away line, but that he cannot bring himself to apologise, else he truly believes it and feels that no further comment is required.

I would treat either possibility in the same way that I treated kids that called me 4 eyes all those years ago.

Brian

We should all know by now that you should never take what people say on forums too seriously, it's not worth it.

There are more important things to life than worriying about personal comments made by people that you may not know or even meet for real.

The only time you should worry about this sort of thing is when someone you meet online from another country turns up on your doorstep with a pickaxe :eek:

We should all know by now that you should never take what people say on forums too seriously, it's not worth it.

There are more important things to life than worriying about personal comments made by people that you may not know or even meet for real.

The only time you should worry about this sort of thing is when someone you meet online from another country turns up on your doorstep with a pickaxe :eek:

You sound like you're speaking from personal experience..... Has that ever happened to you? :D

You sound like you're speaking from personal experience..... Has that ever happened to you? :D

Erm...no :o

[groundrush logs out & changes his identity for the 5th time]

I am not "following Bob around forever", if I get a suitable reply then the matter is closed
Col



If Bob has not replied by now, it's a pretty safe bet he's not going to.
This is not intended to measure the rights and wrongs of the situation, I am simply suggesting a course of action.
That course of action is...perhaps its time to move on.

...perhaps its time to move on...

or to purchase a pickaxe...

I loved his assistant:eek:;)

Which one? Didn't he have two different equally eye-appealing assistants? I never watched the show, so don't recall.

Colin - What sort of reply from Bob would you ever determine "suitable?"

Which one? Didn't he have two different equally eye-appealing assistants? I never watched the show, so don't recall.

Yes. It was Natalie and Sharona.
Sharona was the original, played by Betty Schramm. She also had a part in A league of their own"

I liked both but was rather sad when Betty left.
As far as I know, they didn't really have a seamless departure.
Am I the only one who thinks Monk's late wife has been depicted by more than one actress since the beginning of the show?

Yes. It was Natalie and Sharona.
Sharona was the original, played by Betty Schramm. She also had a part in A league of their own"

I liked both but was rather sad when Betty left.
As far as I know, they didn't really have a seamless departure.
Am I the only one who thinks Monk's late wife has been depicted by more than one actress since the beginning of the show?

I thought Sharona looked like she was stuck in a 1980s time warp, great character apart from that. Out of the two I'd say Natalie is the prettier.

Ha! I wondered that too about Trudy, but it's so rare you see her that you kind of only remember she has blonde hair. Then again, you'd think with all the photos of her he has we'd take note :confused:

Colin - What sort of reply from Bob would you ever determine "suitable?"

Well, it would be nice to get any reply. It would certainly be polite to reply. All I am asking for is for Bob to qualify his statement.

I'm disappointed, I thought Americans were always very polite - seems I got it wrong.

Col

Well, it would be nice to get any reply. It would certainly be polite to reply. All I am asking for is for Bob to qualify his statement.

I'm disappointed, I thought Americans were always very polite - seems I got it wrong.

Col

In a way I see where you're coming from Colin, there are only two kinds of people in this world qualified to diagnose insanity, psychologists and other whack jobs ;)

I'm pretty sure Bob's comment would have been a joke rather than a diagnosis, I don't think he's a psychologis, is he? :D

I have no idea of Bob's involvement with either Psychology or Psychiatry.

If indeed it was a joke, then perhaps a smilie would have been indicative of his attempt at humour.

I feel sure Bob will tell me in due course.

Col

Of course he will.

I'm disappointed, I thought Americans were always very polite...

I'm sure you did... :rolleyes:

I'm sure you did... :rolleyes:

Well Elvis and Cassius Clay always called people "Sir" or "Ma'am" and US soldiers always seem to when they hold press conferences.

In films, US tourists always say "Yes Sir, aahm from Texas", or like in the Posiden Adventure the little lad calls everyone "Sir" or "Ma'am".

So it must be true.

Col

So it must be true.

Col

In my experience it is, but then I'm always polite, I wonder if that makes a difference.

Brian

In my experience it is, but then I'm always polite, I wonder if that makes a difference.

Brian

Not really, because if you are not the first to speak they wouldn't know you are polite.

Obviously Americans need to turn the volume down a bit because they all seem to shout, but oddly, since 2003 they are much quieter and they all seem to be Canadians now. (as advised by their government)

I think it's funny when they ask you for directions - like to Bucking-Ham Palace or Lie-Cester Square.

Anyway, Bob still hasn't responded but we live in hope for a polite reply.

Col

I think it's funny when they ask you for directions - like to Bucking-Ham Palace or Lie-Cester Square.

Col

That attitude is normal for the ill mannered southerners who think that anybody who does not speak like them is inferior, but Southern BBC broadcasters talk of one Liverpool suberb as Mag-Hull when we all know its Maghull with a silent h.

Brian

Ha! I wondered that too about Trudy, but it's so rare you see her that you kind of only remember she has blonde hair. Then again, you'd think with all the photos of her he has we'd take note :confused:

I paid close attention and it seemed to me that after they started using "Jan" from The Office as Monk's wife, whom I RECOGNIZED I started looking at the pictures and noticed they too had changed!

Erm...no :o

[groundrush logs out & changes his identity for the 5th time]

LMAO
Too funny!

In films, US tourists always say "Yes Sir, aahm from Texas", or like in the Posiden Adventure the little lad calls everyone "Sir" or "Ma'am".

So it must be true.

Col

Everything I've learned about America is from the movies.
:)

Obviously Americans need to turn the volume down a bit because they all seem to shout...Col

I don't shout at all. I do know a few people here who do.
The Irishman I met a few weekends ago seemed unusually soft spoken and when I commented on it, his wife about peed her pants in laughter. He seemed shocked to hear it as well. LOL. So, it is possible that I am used to a higher volume in America. Are Irishmen supposedly loud?

I think it's funny when they ask you for directions - like to Bucking-Ham Palace or Lie-Cester Square.
Col

Well, not thinking I will EVER (oops was that a shout? I just capitalized for emphasis. Imagine my tone of voice just spending more time on the word "ever" for emphasis.) EVER get to spend time in England. (Choices made by finances other than desire.) However, if I do, I think I know to say "Bucking-um" instead of "Bucking-Ham". I do not, sadly, know how this square is pronounced. I originally come from Massachusetts, and we have Worchester which is pronounced "Woostah" amoungst natives, and "Worster" from educated out-of-state visitors, but "Wer-chester" by everyone else unfamiliar. So, I'm going to guess it's pronounced "Lester" with a soft "r" by natives. Am I right?

In Sarasota, where I spent much of my teen years, we have a major street name "Bahia Vista". When we first arrived we called it, "Ba-HAY-a Vista" as do tourists to the area. It's actually "Bay-ah Vista". I am certain most people have stories of names of their own native streets, towns and places of interest mutilated by those unfamiliar with the area.

That attitude is normal for the ill mannered southerners who think that anybody who does not speak like them is inferior,

Southerners are not superior, it's just that Northerners are not so well educated and they have a shorter average lifespan. So naturally they will accept their place and class.

but Southern BBC broadcasters talk of one Liverpool suberb as Mag-Hull when we all know its Maghull with a silent h.

Brian

I would imagine very few people south of Liverpool would have the slightest interest in anything that happens in Liverpool generally let alone in some wierd named suburb.

The only recent Liverpool event of very mild interest to us in the south was the Toxteth riots.

Col

Southerners are not superior, it's just that Northerners are not so well educated and they have a shorter average lifespan. So naturally they will accept their place and class.



I would imagine very few people south of Liverpool would have the slightest interest in anything that happens in Liverpool generally let alone in some wierd named suburb.

The only recent Liverpool event of very mild interest to us in the south was the Toxteth riots.

Col

Wait... what? There are class wars vover there?
Or... is this just a tongue in cheek thing?

I mean, here in America there are jokes about people in .... where is it normally.... uh.... Kentucky? Alabama? I'm not sure... someplace where the ultra extreme would be marrying your sister... but it's not taken seriously. No one here actually KNOWS anybody who has married their sister. It's just a "backwards county redneck joke." Even we don't take it to heart. Much like, as it has been explained to me previously, that girls from Essex are known to be "of loose morals". I'm certain it's also not taken seriously... it's just a .... a well known joke, right? Not based, necessarily, at least today, in any truth.

Ok... ok... maybe one or two Essex girls have gotten around more than the norm.... I don't know. I'm not there, and there are no movies in America about the Essex girls. :)

Anyway, seriously... this is all good jesting, yeah?
North and South are not truly divided are they?
Where is the line that divides the two?
And, if I ever DO get to Great Britain, where will I be most welcomed?
Bear in mind, please, I do not like stuffy.... and men in powdered wigs are an immediate turnoff to me.

The North is generally regarded as working class because that's where the industrial heartlands were - car making, steel, mining etc.

The South is regarded as middle class because of the non industrial nature. Stockbrokers, bankers etc.

The South is always the richer areas, the north the poorer, hence outside toilets and tin baths in front of the fire. That's why the foreigners go to the north. You'd be hard pushed to see a coloured person in Colchester.

Essex girls do have loose morals, that is not an exaggeration. Although go to any city on a friday or saturday night and you'll be awash with drunk semi-conscious teenage girls all exposing themselves to anyone who is around.

Col

And, if I ever DO get to Great Britain, where will I be most welcomed?
Bear in mind, please, I do not like stuffy.... and men in powdered wigs are an immediate turnoff to me.

My place. :D

The North is generally regarded as working class because that's where the industrial heartlands were - car making, steel, mining etc.

The South is regarded as middle class because of the non industrial nature. Stockbrokers, bankers etc.

The South is always the richer areas, the north the poorer, hence outside toilets and tin baths in front of the fire. That's why the foreigners go to the north. You'd be hard pushed to see a coloured person in Colchester.

So, there are no bankers or stockbrokers in Birmingham and there's no industry south of the Thames? I'll grant you I haven't been to England for 10 years, but that's not the way I recall it.
Actually, England is a pretty provincial place in those terms. Most Northerners would rather die than move south and most Southerners would rather be boiled in oil than go north.
One of the reasons for the soccer hoolaganism years back was this built in hostility. The really big punch ups were when Northern and Southern teams were playing each other.


Essex girls do have loose morals, that is not an exaggeration. Although go to any city on a friday or saturday night and you'll be awash with drunk semi-conscious teenage girls all exposing themselves to anyone who is around.

Col

Do they get upset if you take their photos? :D

Afraid there is a north/south divide

in the south you had more trade routes to Europe ( Dover being 20 miles wway from france) - however up in the north they did have trade routes as well Liverpool to the US - but that went into decine with air transport Liverpool being on the west side of england (just above Wales if you need to pin point it a bit more) there were/are a few trade routes up in the north on the east side - but the sailing times are a lot longer to Europe from there

The North is a little bit more agressive in its attitude - but the people can also be some of the most compassionate and friendly (once you get past the agreesive overtones)
in the cities as with any cities there are some real rough area's but by and large most places are ok - espeaccially if you go with the flow on the banter (and don't mention football- thats a sure way to start a fight)...


In modern times the north has suffered more from unemployment as the declining manual work (moved to the far east/china) has had a huge impact - the Unions have also been on occassions too militant - and made jobs go elsewhere- - instead of taking a long term approach - the Unions seem to have a bigger hold up north than down south

if you go even furth north you hit scotland - and again you have a divide here - but I think it's more east west rather than north /south - you woudl need a scot to expain it - the best spoken english is done in Edinburgh - the accent is really very soft and easy on the ear - Glasgow on the other hand is a different langauge altgether - really hard dialect...

I have heard it said that the best english in the world can be spoken in inverness, not edinburgh.
This is a relic of the old days when people in Inverness spoke Gaelic as their first language and English as a formal language taught in Schools. Thesaying referred to their grammatical correctness rather than their accent.
also that the big divide is more to do with religion than where you live. The religious divide tends to be a big city phenomenon especially in Glasgow. There is still fierce rivalry between Glasgow and Edinburgh

I can see its going to take me a bit of time to gt used to this forum. i just deleted my message because i thought i had to edit it to answer you, then realised i was in the wrong thing.

so, the people in Inverness are better at speaking gaelic than the ones in edinburgh.

Have any of you ever seen Elizabeth Gaskill's "North & South", I found that to be very interesting, but never thought about that kind of divide still being prevelant

so, the people in Inverness are better at speaking gaelic than the ones in edinburgh.
and they eat haggis.............

I would imagine very few people south of Liverpool would have the slightest interest in anything that happens in Liverpool generally let alone in some wierd named suburb.



Col
More so since the Liver birds finished and even that's not spoken correctly as spelt:eek:

Oh, now you're just making me hungry. and they eat haggis.............

Oh, now you're just making me hungry.
The thoughy of eating sheeps stomach lining with warmed up contents doesn't make me feel hungry:eek:

Have you tried it? It's lovely. If you do try it try it with some cat wee soup as a starter, and don't forget to have lashings of larks vomit gravy over the top!

How did you get the cute little face at the end of your post?

Have you tried it? It's lovely. If you do try it try it with some cat wee soup as a starter, and don't forget to have lashings of larks vomit gravy over the top!

How did you get the cute little face at the end of your post?

On the quick response window at the bottom of the page, click "Go Advanced".

The smilies at the bottom of the form with the buttons place the face in the message header.
The ones on the right side place them in the message at the cursor.

:(

:confused:

:cool:

The North is a little bit more agressive in its attitude -.

What cheek, just come here and say that if you dare.

Brian

Southerners are not superior, it's just that Northerners are not so well educated and they have a shorter average lifespan. So naturally they will accept their place and class.



I would imagine very few people south of Liverpool would have the slightest interest in anything that happens in Liverpool generally let alone in some wierd named suburb.

The only recent Liverpool event of very mild interest to us in the south was the Toxteth riots.

Col

The Toxteth riot was over 20 years ago, just shows you how upto date you Southerners are, kinda dismisses your opening sentence, but then people south of the Thames no little to nothing of anything North of that river.

Brian

Where is the line that divides the two?
And, if I ever DO get to Great Britain, where will I be most welcomed?
Bear in mind, please, I do not like stuffy.... and men in powdered wigs are an immediate turnoff to me.

You will Know that you are in the North when people start smiling and being pleasant.

My place on the way to Ouma's

Brian

If you do try it try it with some cat wee soup as a starter, and don't forget to have lashings of larks vomit gravy over the top!


That part sounds delicious

What cheek, just come here and say that if you dare.

Brian


i am a fair bit younger than you Brian ... - no its more in the tone not the actual people up north they will call it as it is where as in t he south - we kinda polish it a bit ..- not better just different

on a social basis the North is more socially minded the neighbours do tend to be more neighbourly -to get this kinda of attitude down south - you need to get to the villages

now if we are talking about cornwall then we are into another world - they have no real concept of time or distance (asked once how far x was and it was just round the corner (18 bloody miles round the corner) - yet i would love to live there....

You will Know that you are in the North when people start smiling and being pleasant.



Brian

as they nick the wheels of your car - empty your wallet - and sell you children

then people south of the Thames no little to nothing of anything North of that river.

Brian
Look, I do so hate to appear to be playing the Devils advocate here but I think you'll find that Col lives to the North of the Thames;)

(18 bloody miles round the corner) - yet i would love to live there....
Cornwall's not much bigger than that anyway :D

Look, I do so hate to appear to be playing the Devils advocate here but I think you'll find that Col lives to the North of the Thames;)

Who said that I was talking about Col, his ignorance is taken for granted, after all said and done he comes from Bristol.

Brian

as they nick the wheels of your car -

But we will leave it on top quality bricks.

Brian

i am a fair bit younger than you Brian .......

I wasn't suggesting that you say it to me, somewhere round Granby Street would be the place.

Brian

Who said that I was talking about Col, his ignorance is taken for granted, after all said and done he comes from Bristol.

Brian
I thought he came from the SW actually:D

I thought he came from the SW actually:D

I thought he said Bristol at some point in the past, and isn't that in the SW?
Not from you of course. :)

Brian

I thought he said Bristol at some point in the past, and isn't that in the SW?
Not from you of course. :)

Brian
Some might say the Westcountry, but definitely not the SW:D

I wasn't suggesting that you say it to me, somewhere round Granby Street would be the place.

Brian

Daft i am not - don't want to lose any more teeth ...

Look, I do so hate to appear to be playing the Devils advocate here but I think you'll find that Col lives to the North of the Thames;)

Thats up north isn't it (anything above the medway is north )

Thats up north isn't it (anything above the medway is north )
Any thing North of Bodmin is up North;)

Note to one's self, look up Essex and the Medway, both South of Stoke I think.

Brian

I was born and raised in Bristol, but have not lived there since 1973. Rich is correct in saying it's the West Country, the South West is generally referring to Cornwall, Devon area.

Colchester (Essex) is slightly north of the Thames by a few miles.

The point here is that there is a North / South split and the class structure is alive and well in the UK.

Col

i am a fair bit younger than you Brian ... - no its more in the tone not the actual people up north they will call it as it is where as in t he south - we kinda polish it a bit ..- not better just different , sneaky, two faced, back biting... lol you don't want to polish your words up here, and when you're speaking to someone "up north" bear in mind that other people just don't have any feelings, so feel free to say what ever you like about them, you'll feel better, they won't mind :rolleyes: they are very much like the Americans that way, but then many Americans are a product of the Highland Clearances ;)

on a social basis the North is more socially minded the neighbours do tend to be more neighbourly -to get this kinda of attitude down south - you need to get to the villages
until you speak to them and find that they don't polish their words..

now if we are talking about cornwall then we are into another world - they have no real concept of time or distance (asked once how far x was and it was just round the corner (18 bloody miles round the corner) - yet i would love to live there....
I've heard people in Glasgow do the same with English tourists :D

Look, I do so hate to appear to be playing the Devils advocate here .... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH! I love it when you are funny.

But we will leave it on top quality bricks.
Brian Good bricks ARE hard to come by.

I wasn't suggesting that you say it to me, somewhere round Granby Street would be the place.
Brian THAT was the best of the best!

BTW - I'm still waiting for a reply Bob. I haven't forgotten you.

Perhaps tonight will be the night for you to have the courage to reply? Or will you remain worryingly silent.

Col

BTW - I'm still waiting for a reply Bob. I haven't forgotten you.

Perhaps tonight will be the night for you to have the courage to reply? Or will you remain worryingly silent.

Col
Colin, I think the problem is that Bob hasn't forgotten you. I think it's time for you to move on and accept you aren't going to get a reply. Life's too short to worry about these things

Colin, I think the problem is that Bob hasn't forgotten you. I think it's time for you to move on and accept you aren't going to get a reply. Life's too short to worry about these things

Nice enough place to sit and chat though.
Personally, I don't think whatever answer Bob would give other than an apology would be acceptable to Colin and I do understand that. However, apologies all around and a fresh slate wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either.

Personally, I don't think whatever answer Bob would give other than an apology would be acceptable to Colin and I do understand that.

It would be a start just to get some response from Bobby. He seems to have gone totally blinkered as far as the 'cooler is concerned.

If he was as good and godlike as some American disciples here make out he is, he would at least PM me and offer some explanation for his remark.

So far though he seems to be displaying typical American strategy - stir things up then pull out and leave confusion. Maybe BobbyBabe should be a polititian.

Col

should be a polititian.

Col
Love that bit;)

Nice enough place to sit and chat though.
Personally, I don't think whatever answer Bob would give other than an apology would be acceptable to Colin and I do understand that.

Why would that be acceptable to him? He'd have no reason to bait and namecall then would he?

If you can't see that Colin is deliberately stirring the pot with this thread for his own entertainment then I'm afraid the joke is as much on you as it is on Bob as it is on anyone who believes Colin's faux chagrin. Bob has just wisened up and doesn't want to be the butt of the joke anymore.

I'd like to know why someone who types such dribble as:

It would be a start just to get some response from Bobby. He seems to have gone totally blinkered as far as the 'cooler is concerned.

If he was as good and godlike as some American disciples here make out he is, he would at least PM me and offer some explanation for his remark.

So far though he seems to be displaying typical American strategy - stir things up then pull out and leave confusion. Maybe BobbyBabe should be a polititian.

deserves to be treated seriously. The real shame is that sincere people like yourself don't see the deliberate farce that this really is and so become part of the joke. Bob is simply not biting anymore, I suggest you do the same.

Bob is simply not biting anymore,
No he's taken to insult another member of the forum on the main boards instead, kind of funny how his hand picked team have ignored the reported item in question eh:rolleyes:

If you can't see that Colin is deliberately stirring the pot with this thread for his own entertainment . . . . .

I'm merely killing time waiting for a response to a perfectly normal question.

Still, it's nice that you keep the thread going Daniella - it saves me bumping it every night in the hope that Bob will deem to lower himself to communicate with mere mortals.

As I said, if Bob would respond, we can wrap this up and put it to bed.

Col

I have a slight case of that myself. Some things, I just can't let go..... Like my drinking glasses in the cabinet... they must all be grouped together in rows. Tall round ones in one line, short round ones in another, tall square blue ones in another.... I can't stand it when they are in random places. My husband says, "They are in the cabinet! They are put away! Why does it matter what kind of order they are in?" I'm NOT a neat freak! Don't let me mislead you. Just CERTAIN things must follow a certain order.

The other Access programmer in here is OCD. We have 8 monitors in a U-shaped work area. Right before he walks in the door, I usually knock each one off kilter just a bit, so they aren't straight with the world. It usually takes him 45 minutes to get them back to his liking...:D

The other Access programmer in here is OCD. We have 8 monitors in a U-shaped work area. Right before he walks in the door, I usually knock each one off kilter just a bit, so they aren't straight with the world. It usually takes him 45 minutes to get them back to his liking...:D

LOL, that sounds like a fun game! I can watch them for hours. I used to change the order of my mothers washing to watch her go change it back, it seems socks don't dry as well if they are separated and t-shirts must all be colour co-ordinated or they would just never dry properly. The Scottish weather had nothing to do with it :p

No he's taken to insult another member of the forum on the main boards instead, kind of funny how his hand picked team have ignored the reported item in question eh:rolleyes:

You successfully duped him into making a complete numpty of himself and Colin is busy looking for seconds. Why don't you be gracious and allow him a little payback?

Duped ?:confused:

and Colin is busy looking for seconds. Why don't you be gracious and allow him a little payback?

I don't follow that at all. Can you try explaining what you mean?

'Looking for seconds'? What is that?

Col

The real shame is that sincere people like yourself don't see the deliberate farce that this really is and so become part of the joke. Bob is simply not biting anymore, I suggest you do the same.

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Did you write that Dan? ;)

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Did you write that Dan? ;)

The deadly duo have been teasing since I can remember. I don't mind anymore, I guess and I'm sure there is alot going on behind the scenes in PM's.

Just as long as bystanders understand that threads like these are simply a ruse.

Ever read Twelfth Night where Malvolio is teased to the point of cruelty? Same kind of thing going on here. It's all in the name of fun but there are casualties.

The deadly duo have been teasing since I can remember. I don't mind anymore, I guess and I'm sure there is alot going on behind the scenes in PM's.

Just as long as bystanders understand that threads like these are simply a ruse.

Ever read Twelfth Night where Malvolio is teased to the point of cruelty? Same kind of thing going on here. It's all in the name of fun but there are casualties.
I'll ask you again, what dupe did I pull that forced the former power hungry mod to delete my posts etc and then reappear as if nothing happened and carry on insulting members who dare to disagree with him?

I'll ask you again, what dupe did I pull that forced the former power hungry mod to delete my posts etc and then reappear as if nothing happened and carry on insulting members who dare to disagree with him?

I don't remember saying you forced anybody to do anything just coaxing susceptible people into making fools of themselves. I've fallen for it loads of times and don't really mind although I didn't have the same reaction to it as the 'mod'.

I don't remember saying you forced anybody to do anything just coaxing susceptible people into making fools of themselves. I've fallen for it loads of times and don't really mind although I didn't have the same reaction to it as the 'mod'.
Come on, look at the reasons given at the time, a friendship with an American sounds more like jealousy than suceptibility

The deadly duo have been teasing since I can remember. I don't mind anymore, I guess and I'm sure there is alot going on behind the scenes in PM's.



For someone who doesn't mind anymore - you sure do bang on about it alot. Almost as if you're paranoid about it - whatever 'it' is. You seem to think there is some hidden agenda - I have no idea what you keep banging on about and care even less.

If you mean PM's between Rich and I, then you are wrong, I haven't PM'd Rich for weeks and he has not PM'd me.

As I have said many times, I am asking an innocent question of Bob, nothing more. If he had the guts to answer then the whole thread can be wrapped up, however I do feel this will drag on for months yet - all of Bob's making, not mine.

There will be a small respite in a couple of weeks when I'm in Spain however.

Col

Have a great time Col, and don't worry about us, all the grumps and moans will still be here when you get back ;)

Have a great time Col, and don't worry about us, all the grumps and moans will still be here when you get back ;)

Thinking about it though, I could still log in via an internet cafe somewhere.

Anyway, I'm not off till 2nd Sept.

Actually I was wondering - where do / did people here go for their holidays this year? (Maybe that's a new thread)

Col

I guess and I'm sure there is alot going on behind the scenes in PM's.

I rarely get PMs. I can count on one hand the number of PMs I've gotten this year. And to be sure, not one of them were about the Bob / Colin struggle.

I do have to admit, however, that I have gotten a bit peeved a Col in the past. And I have always PM'd him to discuss our differences of opinion privately and not in open forum. We, in my opinion, have never come to an absolute meeting of the minds, but I can say that we have come to at least understand each other.

I, for example, can understand his rants against particular events which America has had a heavy hand in, and I hope that he has come to an understanding that..... well, I don't know what I've taught him honestly.

Maybe that's for him to say.

We, in my opinion, have never come to an absolute meeting of the minds, but I can say that we have come to at least understand each other.

I'm glad. Personally, I'm just left in a cry-wolf situation. There is so much teasing going on...

Still, it's nice that you keep the thread going Daniella - it saves me bumping it every night in the hope that Bob will deem to lower himself to communicate with mere mortals.

that I have no idea when to treat him seriously and when not to.

People should be able to laugh at themselves and take a little light-hearted flak and I'm not in the least bit offended in being called 'Daniella'. I know it's just fun. But I don't have any clue where Colin stops joking and starts being sincere. I suspect that it's 99% joking.

I'm not in the least bit offended in being called 'Daniella'
Isn't that your name then?:confused:

Is it Dandy?:confused:

Is it Dandy?:confused:

I would have sworn that Daniella was a girl. So if it's not Daniella - what can it be?

It's probobly one of those funny Yank names they have that we don't - like Randy or Elmer. . . . .but beginning with Dan. . . . .hmmmmm (thinking. . . )

I know - it's Dan Dare, saviour of the world, that's what Yanks think they're doing, so it must be that, it's so obvious when you think about it.

Oh, I'll be doing more You-Tube later in the year - some Beatles bass lines I think.

Col

Hi Bob, I see you're in tonight.

Any chance of you growing a backbone and responding to my question?

Thanks

Col

Oh, I'll be doing more You-Tube later in the year - some Beatles bass lines I think.

Col

Good, can I put in a request for Tax man?

Oh, I'll be doing more You-Tube later in the year - some Beatles bass lines I think.
Col


Good, can I put in a request for Tax man?


Or Norwegian Wood ?

You can't beat this guy though :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5sYu3yK0ws

Good, can I put in a request for Tax man?

I'll have a look at Taxman. I also like 'Lady Madonna' and also 'I should have known better' (from a Hard Days Night)

I had an email from some bloke wanting the bass tabs to Johnny B Goode, personally I don't use tabs but I pointed out to him it was just the old three chord rock n roll bassline.

I'm surprised that video has had over 700 hits, personally I don't like it as I made a mistake in it but couldn't be bothered to re-do it.

Col

I'll have a look at Taxman. I also like 'Lady Madonna' and also 'I should have known better' (from a Hard Days Night)

I had an email from some bloke wanting the bass tabs to Johnny B Goode, personally I don't use tabs but I pointed out to him it was just the old three chord rock n roll bassline.

I'm surprised that video has had over 700 hits, personally I don't like it as I made a mistake in it but couldn't be bothered to re-do it.

Col

Can we have she's a woman and I'm looking through you, too?:D

I would have sworn that Daniella was a girl. So if it's not Daniella - what can it be?

It's probobly one of those funny Yank names they have that we don't - like Randy or Elmer. . . . .but beginning with Dan. . . . .hmmmmm (thinking. . . )

I know - it's Dan Dare, saviour of the world, that's what Yanks think they're doing, so it must be that, it's so obvious when you think about it.

Oh, I'll be doing more You-Tube later in the year - some Beatles bass lines I think.

Col

If you are being completely fecetious.... forgive me and I'm ready to eat my own foot, but what about something completely obvious like Daniel?

Can we have she's a woman and I'm looking through you, too?:D

I'll have to write these down.

Taxman
Lady Madonna
I should have known better
She's a woman
I'm looking through you

I'll start work on them when I come back from hols. I hope people do look at my YouTube stuff:rolleyes:

Col

I'll have to write these down.

Taxman
Lady Madonna
I should have known better
She's a woman
I'm looking through you

I'll start work on them when I come back from hols. I hope people do look at my YouTube stuff:rolleyes:

Col

Do you have a link to them?

Nevermind - with Google searching, I found them. :D

What did you search on then?
Or ... do you have a link?
:D

What did you search on then?
Or ... do you have a link?
:D

Youtube and Colinessex... :D

Although go to any city on a friday or saturday night and you'll be awash with drunk semi-conscious teenage girls all exposing themselves to anyone who is around.

Ah, the good old days.
Stop it, you're making me homesick :(

Col..... Your's was the voice singing in Things We Said Today???

Oh, I'll be doing more You-Tube later in the year - some Beatles bass lines I think.

Col

OK, OK, OK, I give up! Between you and radio 2 do I have much option than to finally admit that the Beatles did some pretty good stuff? :D However, I will say, my favourite that you uploaded was Johnny B Goode, I had no idea you were a Priest fan Col ;)

Personally I like "Things we said today" - we did it in a studio, it took ages, it's double tracked. We all did our bit separately, I played drums on that one too. Then I sang it and re-sang it with myself to do the double tracking - our lead guitar man does the harmonies. We double tracked it because I have a weak singing voice and it needed a bit more body.

Johnny B Goode is one of the first bass lines I learnt - it's a 12 bar rock n roll one which fits to virtually any song of that genre. In the 60's we used to call it a three chord trick - because there are only three chords. Many songs use the three chords - virtually all rock n roll stuff and most of Status Quo stuff is three chords.

The songs listed earlier are somewhat more complex to learn, but it's nice to try. If you subscribe to my YouTube name then you'll get automatic notification when something new is posted.

Col

I'm impressed.
I knew you played, I didn't realize you also sang.

I'm impressed.
I knew you played, I didn't realize you also sang.

There's alot we have to catch up on when we meet up. It may take some hours. . . . . .

Col

The youtube clips where pretty cool - Love the older tunes...

I'll have to write these down.

Taxman
Lady Madonna
I should have known better
She's a woman
I'm looking through you

I'll start work on them when I come back from hols. I hope people do look at my YouTube stuff:rolleyes:

Col

When I'm Sixty-Four

My wife and I call it our "theme song" and always have.

When I'm Sixty-Four

My wife and I call it our "theme song" and always have.

Excellent song.
I love it too.

That really is what it's all about. Isn't it?
When the bloom of youth has faded..... What holds you together?

It had better be something!

Excellent song.
I love it too.

That really is what it's all about. Isn't it?
When the bloom of youth has faded..... What holds you together?

It had better be something!

We celebrated our ruby wedding this year and courted for 6 years before marrying, and are closer now than ever. The bloom and passion of youth can't hold a candle to real love.

Brian

We celebrated our ruby wedding this year and courted for 6 years before marrying, and are closer now than ever. The bloom and passion of youth can't hold a candle to real love.

Brian

We've been together 35 years next month and I so agree! Recently we have played Harvest Moon each time we handfast. (by the way it's not necessary to do a handfasting every year, it's more or a renewal of our love before the Gods ;))

If I was still in Massachusetts, where I grew up, and still a teenager, I would say, "That's wicked awesome!"

But I am a grown woman, living in Florida now. So I will respond thusly:

That's lovely. I have never seen a handfasting ceremony. Sounds wonderful.

I see Bobby still hasn´t had the nerve to reply to my question yet. I really thought Americans had a stronger backbone than just to ignore a polite simple question.

Are all Americans so impolite? I think they must be. I thought they were made of stronger stuff than that.

Don´t worry Bob, I´ll keep asking ´till I get a reply. Better still, switch on your PM and we can do this privately.

Col

Any chance of a reply today Bob. . . please?

I´m not around for a few days so it´ll be nice to get this outstanding issue wrapped up.

Col

Hi Bob, I see you're in. Can you reply to my question please? Thanks.

Col

HI Col

I took a look at your vids, I've been playing bass 45 years and I wouldn't dream of posting a tutorial video - that's seriously brave!:eek:

On the tech side it's good to see you clearly using all four fingers of the left hand, especially including the little finger, as that is the one lesson I was given when I started playing. It enables smooth fingering in a single position over four frets as nicely demonstrated by you and should be worked on by every beginner.

Good stuff.

By the way guys think of me this Saturday evening - my band is playing an open air gig! Late September England - we must be nuts....Now where can I get some of those fingerless gloves?

Thanks Barry. I'm learning some more to post!

Good luck tonight.

We have a gig on the 17th Oct in Clacton Football club. Should be good it's a 60's and 70's night with us and another band doing it.

Col

We have a gig on the 17th Oct in Clacton Football club. Should be good it's a 60's and 70's night with us and another band doing it.

Col

We'll all be there to heckle and jeer.
Just kidding.

Good luck on your gig. My brother (a drummer) also plays in a part-time 60s 70s band. In the last 6 months they've actually had to turn down work.

This Beatles revival has been great for business and a lot of the younger folk are beginning to enjoy the earlier days of rock and roll.

We'll all be there to heckle and jeer.
Just kidding.

This Beatles revival has been great for business and a lot of the younger folk are beginning to enjoy the earlier days of rock and roll.
Slight correction (again), The Beatles weren't a rock and roll band:rolleyes:

Slight correction (again), The Beatles weren't a rock and roll band:rolleyes:

He didn't say they were.

He didn't say they were.
He implied it

The Beatles did sing some rock n roll stuff though. Their version of Long Tall Sally is a classic.

Col

We'll all be there to heckle and jeer.
Just kidding.

Good luck on your gig.

Thanks for that Stats. If you can pop over, I would love to meet you. It will be a good gig - we've not got much lined up actually now it's approaching winter. We have a gig in a theatre in December then we're off to learn new stuff for next year.

All the band, (except me) have full time jobs, so it's cool that we don't do a huge amount of gigs. It averages one a month or so, which is fine as we can then spend time learning different stuff.

The other band in october is doing the 70's stuff, I'm guessing Slade, T Rex and glam rock numbers.

Col

Slight correction (again), The Beatles weren't a rock and roll band:rolleyes:

Why do you constantly stop your posts without finishing your point.

If the Beatles were not a rock and roll band, please tell us what you think they were.

Thanks for that Stats. If you can pop over, I would love to meet you. It will be a good gig - we've not got much lined up actually now it's approaching winter. We have a gig in a theatre in December then we're off to learn new stuff for next year.

All the band, (except me) have full time jobs, so it's cool that we don't do a huge amount of gigs. It averages one a month or so, which is fine as we can then spend time learning different stuff.

The other band in october is doing the 70's stuff, I'm guessing Slade, T Rex and glam rock numbers.

Col

HMMM I don't wish to insult your friends but I had hoped that Glam Rock had gone the way of disco.

Slade was one of those things that don't travel well. I understand they were huge in their day in the UK but we never heard much of them on this side of the pond.

HMMM I don't wish to insult your friends but I had hoped that Glam Rock had gone the way of disco.



Actually, our band and the 70's band have never met. We have no idea whether we are playing first or second. It was all booked by the club, we are booked to play for 1hr 30 mins. Come to think of it, I don't know how much we're getting either - that was arranged by our lead guitarist.

I just hope they are up to our calibre.:)

Col

Why do you constantly stop your posts without finishing your point.

If the Beatles were not a rock and roll band, please tell us what you think they were.

It's quite simple even for you, The Beatles covered so many styles they simply cannot be pigeon holed in that way

It's quite simple even for you, The Beatles covered so many styles they simply cannot be pigeon holed in that way

If you were following the general trend you would realize that we were talking about the EARLY Beatles.
She Loves You
Can't Buy Me Love
I Want To hold Your Hand.

If that's not rock 'n roll, I don't know what is.

Your contention that they had NO STYLE is yet another of your less than illuminating comments:rolleyes:

statsman
Did you see on TVO they ran the movie A Hard Day's Night this evening.

Your contention that they had NO STYLE is yet another of your less than illuminating comments:rolleyes:
Where did I say that they had NO Style, please learn to read correctly:rolleyes:

statsman
Did you see on TVO they ran the movie A Hard Day's Night this evening.

Yes.
It was a fun trip down memory lane.

Where did I say that they had NO Style, please learn to read correctly:rolleyes:

You implied it.

Returning to the rest of my post, if you would not describe the EARLY Beatles' music as rock 'n roll, how would you describe it.
I'll keep comig back to this as long as it takes.

OY Such A Hard Days Night I'm Telling You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vAMgbGEDTY)

You implied it.

Returning to the rest of my post, if you would not describe the EARLY Beatles' music as rock 'n roll, how would you describe it.
I'll keep comig back to this as long as it takes.
And I'll argue for as long as it takes, anyone who lived through the period knows fully that at the time if you wanted rock and roll you followed The Rolling Stones, ( although they didn't start out as such they went on to become the greatest rock and roll band in the World), if you wanted pop you followed The Beatles. The former of course were seen as five minute wonders, the latter got torn apart by jealousy and a Japanese so called artist :rolleyes:

As an aside your statement that rock and roll is making a come back in Canada leads me to conclude that you obviously don't venture very far from home, every time I visited the Canadian town of Banff there were plenty of local rock and roll bands playing in the pubs, great times:cool::p

And I'll argue for as long as it takes, anyone who lived through the period knows fully that at the time if you wanted rock and roll you followed The Rolling Stones, ( although they didn't start out as such they went on to become the greatest rock and roll band in the World), if you wanted pop you followed The Beatles. The former of course were seen as five minute wonders, the latter got torn apart by jealousy and a Japanese so called artist :rolleyes:

As an aside your statement that rock and roll is making a come back in Canada leads me to conclude that you obviously don't venture very far from home, every time I visited the Canadian town of Banff there were plenty of local rock and roll bands playing in the pubs, great times:cool::p

Interesting:
My post stated quite specifically that the Beatles were making a comeback in Canada. This is no doubt fuelled by the recent re-release of all of their albums on CD. This has led to the younger folks "rediscovering" the early rock 'n roll artists.
Rock 'n roll has always been around and probably always will be.

Judging the Canadian music scene by Banff would be similar to judging the UK music scene by the Lake District or the US music scene by Aspen.

[quote=statsman;890814]Interesting:
My post stated quite specifically that the Beatles were making a comeback in Canada. This is no doubt fuelled by the recent re-release of all of their albums on CD. This has led to the younger folks "rediscovering" the early rock 'n roll artists.


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That's not what you actually said

Interesting:
My post stated quite specifically that the Beatles were making a comeback in Canada. This is no doubt fuelled by the recent re-release of all of their albums on CD. This has led to the younger folks "rediscovering" the early rock 'n roll artists.




That's not what you actually said

Stats did refer to The Beatles revival following their CD release. Plus (as you well know) Chuck Berry was a big influence on their music especially in the early years.

Therefore, in conjunction with and prompted by the Beatles revival, youngsters in Canada are exploring other great names of that era - the names we were lucky to have witnessed first hand.

Col

No doubt, the "comeback" of the Beatles is directly related to the release of the new Rock Band video game just a couple of weeks ago (imaginatively titled The Beatles: Rock Band). Rock Band and Guitar Hero have done much to get the youngsters interested in the Rock & Roll (or whatever you want to call it) music we all seem to love (regardless of our semantic disagreements on the same).

It does my heart good that my son and I can both share the same play lists on our iPods (cuts down on expenses).

Chuck Berry was a big influence on their music especially in the early years.

Col
Yes I know and it's rather ironic that having covered so many classics they still weren't classed as a rock and roll band

It does my heart good that my son and I can both share the same play lists on our iPods (cuts down on expenses).
Don't you have the originals?:confused:

Yes I know and it's rather ironic that having covered so many classics they still weren't classed as a rock and roll band

Only by you it seems. :rolleyes:

If you go back and check the Billboard listings in the early 60's, the Popular charts were filled with artists like Andy Williams, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, and the like. The Beatles were listed on the Rock 'n Roll charts until about 1967. At that time the Rock 'n Roll chart was replaced by the Rock chart. Most of the Beatles post 67 songs were listed on both the Popular and the Rock charts (known in the business as "crossover").
I do agree that their later music (starting with the Rubber Soul album) did not fit into any easily recognized category.

And that is where you will find the Beatles if you are purchasing the music on vinyl, tape, digital and digital formats - listed under Rock n Roll

Only by you it seems. :rolleyes:

If you go back and check the Billboard listings in the early 60's, the Popular charts were filled with artists like Andy Williams, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, and the like. The Beatles were listed on the Rock 'n Roll charts until about 1967. At that time the Rock 'n Roll chart was replaced by the Rock chart. Most of the Beatles post 67 songs were listed on both the Popular and the Rock charts (known in the business as "crossover").
I do agree that their later music (starting with the Rubber Soul album) did not fit into any easily recognized category.

Don't you have the originals?:confused:

Alas, no (unless you count the CDs). I fear I've sold out to the technology monster.

Don't you have the originals?:confused:

Alas, no (unless you count the CDs). I fear I've sold out to the technology monster.

We have a lot of vinyl, reel to reel, cassette tapes, even a lot of 8tracks as well as DCs and just directly purchased digital.
Even though there are such great leaps in the technology of the recording arts, there is a certain tonal quality which the original recordings possess that have become part of the signature in our memories. Even some tunes from back in the day have a certain something with the pops and clicks of vintage vinyl or the hssssssss of a tape.

Alas, no (unless you count the CDs). I fear I've sold out to the technology monster.

Only by you it seems. :rolleyes:

If you go back and check the Billboard listings in the early 60's, the Popular charts were filled with artists like Andy Williams, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, and the like. The Beatles were listed on the Rock 'n Roll charts until about 1967. At that time the Rock 'n Roll chart was replaced by the Rock chart. Most of the Beatles post 67 songs were listed on both the Popular and the Rock charts (known in the business as "crossover").
I do agree that their later music (starting with the Rubber Soul album) did not fit into any easily recognized category.

I'm not American and thus don't use or need Billboard, this is taken from Yahoo answers:rolleyes:


The Beatles are classified as Britpop since that's what they were. The Kinks (among others) would also fall under that category as well. That's the beauty of Britpop. you don't need to separate it between new and old because it's timeless.


Rock and roll has and will be forever The Rolling Stones

Alas, no (unless you count the CDs). I fear I've sold out to the technology monster.
What's wrong with the CDs?:confused:

What's wrong with the CDs?:confused:

Nothing. Just many people really appreciate the vinyl (as evidenced in post #162) and I never though of CDs as a high-fidelity format. Many of my most recent acquisitions were digital though I imagine I've owned just about everything I have now in one of many "hard" formats. I don't have any 8-tracks, reel-to-reel, or vinyl anymore and don't want to go through the effort of converting my cassettes to digital. All of my CDs are on my iPod.

Nothing. Just many people really appreciate the vinyl (as evidenced in post #162) and I never though of CDs as a high-fidelity format. Many of my most recent acquisitions were digital though I imagine I've owned just about everything I have now in one of many "hard" formats. I don't have any 8-tracks, reel-to-reel, or vinyl anymore and don't want to go through the effort of converting my cassettes to digital. All of my CDs are on my iPod.
I wouldn't argue with that except to wonder if it's worth the effort;)

Our older format recordings are boxed up in the grainery of the barn. Many favourites have since been replaced by digital though we do have a couple we copied which bring back the old days of dances in high school gymnasiums. Those old slower songs do not raise the same emotions without the crackles and pops...

Nothing. Just many people really appreciate the vinyl (as evidenced in post #162) and I never though of CDs as a high-fidelity format. Many of my most recent acquisitions were digital though I imagine I've owned just about everything I have now in one of many "hard" formats. I don't have any 8-tracks, reel-to-reel, or vinyl anymore and don't want to go through the effort of converting my cassettes to digital. All of my CDs are on my iPod.

I'm not American and thus don't use or need Billboard, this is taken from Yahoo answers:rolleyes:


Rock and roll has and will be forever The Rolling Stones

I don't use Yahoo, Google or any of the error prone information websites.
My point that the EARLY Beatles were a rock 'n roll band is taken from how they were listed in the trade magazines and from the documentary film "The Compleat Beatles" and was stated in that film by John Lennon.
If you still wish to dispute it, I suggest you dig up Mr. Lennon and argue with him.

I don't use Yahoo, Google or any of the error prone information websites.
My point that the EARLY Beatles were a rock 'n roll band is taken from how they were listed in the trade magazines and from the documentary film "The Compleat Beatles" and was stated in that film by John Lennon.
If you still wish to dispute it, I suggest you dig up Mr. Lennon and argue with him.
and I don't rely on television for facts

I have the correct answer from the horses mouth, with apologies to my wife. She used to dance to the Beatles in the Cavern where they were advertised as a Rock and Roll band.
End of argument.

Brian

I have the correct answer from the horses mouth, with apologies to my wife. She used to dance to the Beatles in the Cavern where they were advertised as a Rock and Roll band.
End of argument.

Brian
That's before they became famous Brian:p
The argument continues, ps I don't see any mention of rock and roll here

http://www.the-beatles-history.com/image-files/hd-9-1.jpg

And if you attended that concert, what kind of music would you expect to hear...OPERA

No silly!, I've already told you; POP

I have the correct answer from the horses mouth, with apologies to my wife. She used to dance to the Beatles in the Cavern where they were advertised as a Rock and Roll band.
End of argument.

Brian

Now see there?
Brian is a very wise man.
When his wife give him an answer, he takes it and questions no more.

:)

You boys should learn from him.

:D

:)

You boys should learn from him.

:D

I saw the light and escaped:cool::p

...where they were advertised as a Rock and Roll band.


I fully agree with Brian : ;)

http://jackwolak.com/7/9076.jpg

I fully agree with Brian : ;)

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That's the title of one of their tracks Ron:p
actually I'm pretty sure that here eight days a week was the preferred track

and I don't rely on television for facts

or exhumations :D

Lets face it none of the Beatles could convince Rich that they played rock and roll, when you know everything it must be a very frustrating life having to put up with us ignorant people.

Brian

Lets face it none of the Beatles could convince Rich that they played rock and roll, when you know everything it must be a very frustrating life having to put up with us ignorant people.

Brian
And equally frustrating when the facts don't conform to your perceptions

That's the title of one of their tracks Ron:p


No it's definitely rock and roll :


http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2407/cover_175651852009.jpg

Besides the fact that the Glimmer twins confirmed it :

http://991.com/newGallery/Rolling-Stones-Its-Only-Rock-N-R-430975.jpg

Wiki is quite interesting on this -


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll

or indeed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music

Lets face it none of the Beatles could convince Rich that they played rock and roll, when you know everything it must be a very frustrating life having to put up with us ignorant people.

Brian
I've never said they didn't play rock and roll, please don't misquote me:mad:

No it's definitely rock and roll :


http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2407/cover_175651852009.jpg

Besides the fact that the Glimmer twins confirmed it :

http://991.com/newGallery/Rolling-Stones-Its-Only-Rock-N-R-430975.jpg


Ron the Stones have always been the World's greatest rock and roll band however I'm somewhat confused as to what an album and tracks released from it in the mid seventies have to do with the Beatles in the sixties?

I've never said they didn't play rock and roll, please don't misquote me:mad:

Where did I quote you?

Brian

Where did I quote you?

Brian
All right then, where did I say they never played some old Perkins, Berry, etc. classics?

There you go again, red herrings all over the place, never a straight answer, always twisting wodrs and arguments this
where did I say they never played some old Perkins, Berry, etc. classics?

has never been debated, what is being discussed is this

Slight correction (again), The Beatles weren't a rock and roll band:rolleyes:

and despite all of the evidence against you , you will never , as in any discussion, admit that you may be wrong.

Brian

and despite all of the evidence against you , you will never , as in any discussion, admit that you may be wrong.

Brian
I grew up during the period that's how I know the Beatles were regarded as a pop group and not a ROCK and ROLL band, but nowhere did I say they never played any covers

I grew up during the period that's how I know the Beatles were regarded as a pop group and not a ROCK and ROLL band,

Let me see if I follow this , you are saying that because you grew up in that pweriod you are the expert, definitely more knowledgeable than somebody who grewup a couple of streets away from Ringo, and danced to their music in the Cavern and clubs of Liverpool.
Yep I can see that you hold all the aces.

Brian

Let me see if I follow this , you are saying that because you grew up in that pweriod you are the expert, definitely more knowledgeable than somebody who grewup a couple of streets away from Ringo, and danced to their music in the Cavern and clubs of Liverpool.
Yep I can see that you hold all the aces.

Brian
You're older than me Bri, I'm afraid it's a fact of life that only those in their early teens were qualified to decide

Which period? Your profile you claim to be 21 (August 3, 1988) which seems to be a little after when the band disbanded...
I grew up during the period that's how I know the Beatles were regarded as a pop group and not a ROCK and ROLL band, but nowhere did I say they never played any covers

Which period? Your profile you claim to be 21 (August 3, 1988) which seems to be a little after when the band disbanded...
That's something to do with American date formatting, the date looks just fine from here

O so what is the date from there because if I look from my side of the screen you are young and annoying and have a way to blame every wrong on the Americans or something which is American.
That's something to do with American date formatting, the date looks just fine from here

O so what is the date from there because if I look from my side of the screen you are young and annoying and have a way to blame every wrong on the Americans or something which is American.
Well gee, it's a known fact that outside of America Access doesn't handle dates very well unless the US date format is used, yet another annoying fact eh:rolleyes:

Well thanks for not answering my questions.

Well thanks for not answering my questions.
I did answer your question

NOT. And I am not going to fall into one of your stupid games. I had enough of those with some other ignorant jerk last week.
I did answer your question

NOT. And I am not going to fall into one of your stupid games. I had enough of those with some other ignorant jerk last week.
The fact that you can't figure it out for yourself doesn't make me stupid:rolleyes:

True, you seem to be able to be that way without any help at all.

The fact that you can't figure it out for yourself doesn't make me stupid:rolleyes:

True, you seem to be able to be that way without any help at all.
Yet another typical American response, rather like the American jibe of me being the boyfriend of an online colleague here, only an American would make such a statement 'cause in the real free world it wouldn't matter a flying fig:rolleyes:

NOT. And I am not going to fall into one of your stupid games. I had enough of those with some other ignorant jerk last week.

I see you have finally learned the rules about responding to Rich.

Rule 1: Rich is always right

Rule 2: regardless of the relevant facts, the sources you quote or anything you wish to say in response, you can't change Rule 1.

Rule 3: the correct place for Rich is on your ignore list.

I see you have finally learned the rules about responding to Rich.

Rule 1: Rich is always right

In this case true

Rule 2: regardless of the relevant facts, the sources you quote or anything you wish to say in response, you can't change Rule 1.


Those intelligent enough can

Rule 3: the correct place for Rich is on your ignore list.

Oh dear I'll be really sad to be on another Americans ignore list

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It is sad when you ask a simple question and get all sorts of grief rather then just a straight answer. Might not be so annoying if english was my first language but it is nothing to get upset over. If people do not know the answer to something then why dont they just say so instead of stretching it out for a dozen posts on empty misdirection.
It is just so rude to do that to people but perhaps it is just a character flaw.

I see you have finally learned the rules about responding to Rich.
Rule 1: Rich is always right
Rule 2: regardless of the relevant facts, the sources you quote or anything you wish to say in response, you can't change Rule 1.
Rule 3: the correct place for Rich is on your ignore list.

It is sad when you ask a simple question and get all sorts of grief rather then just a straight answer. Might not be so annoying if english was my first language but it is nothing to get upset over. If people do not know the answer to something then why dont they just say so instead of stretching it out for a dozen posts on empty misdirection.
It is just so rude to do that to people but perhaps it is just a character flaw.

Not a simple question but a provocative one


O so what is the date from there because if I look from my side of the screen you are young and annoying and have a way to blame every wrong on the Americans or something which is American.

Access doesn't handle dates very well unless the US date format is used

Wrong again Rich.

There are no problems with access and dates if you use the 'YYYY/MM/DD' format.

Wrong again Rich.

There are no problems with access and dates if you use the 'YYYY/MM/DD' format.
Duh, what format is YYYY/MM/DD ? or even "mm/dd/yyyy"?:rolleyes:

Duh, what format is YYYY/MM/DD ? :

It's the international format apparently, entered as text it would still sort properly.

Brian

It's the international format apparently, entered as text it would still sort properly.

Brian
But entered as text would create even more problems for Access surely?
p.s sorry to see the recent poor form of late, time to change sides?:cool:

I wasn't suggesting that a date should be entered as text , merely making an observation.

As for Liverpool, they are playing as badly as Man u but without the luck, I fear that we will finish 5th or 6th, Rafa basically forced Alonso out yet he was the one that made the Gerrard Torres partnership tick, the guys a prat with his zonal marking too.

Brian

If you use ISO 8601 for date and time functions there are never any problems which are encountered by using any other ambiguous formats or outdated text and numeric combinations.

There are no problems with access and dates if you use the 'YYYY/MM/DD' format.


It's the international format apparently, entered as text it would still sort properly.
Brian

There are currently three different date formats that I am familiar with. They are:
American - mm/dd/yyyy
British - dd/mm/yyyy
and Japanese (also called international) - yyyy/mm/dd

There may be others as well.
All I know is that it's a pain because if the date quoted has a day which is 12 or less, you have to find out where the person is from before you can find out the date (Example: 12/04/2006 - 4th of December or 12th of April???).

May we please have a required date format that everyone MUST use.

Rant completed.

ISO 8601 for date format is YYYY-MM-DD
I do not know why anyone would use anything else

There are currently three different date formats that I am familiar with. They are:
American - mm/dd/yyyy
British - dd/mm/yyyy
and Japanese (also called international) - yyyy/mm/dd

There may be others as well.
All I know is that it's a pain because if the date quoted has a day which is 12 or less, you have to find out where the person is from before you can find out the date (Example: 12/04/2006 - 4th of December or 12th of April???).

May we please have a required date format that everyone MUST use.

Rant completed.

ISO 8601 for date format is YYYY-MM-DD
I do not know why anyone would use anything else
Because we're not backward

Might not be so annoying if english was my first language

Well personally, I think you do jolly well having a stab at having discussions in your non-first language, it can't be easy.
You don't say what your first is, but the way you use "jerk" and other personal attacks it could (I said could) be American.

However, I shall bear this in mind should any of your future posts appear to be antagonistic and argumentative and put it down to you being a foreigner.

Of course, if you were French, then that would explain alot. It's a well known fact the frogs hate the English - hence the reason we've been at war on and off for about 900 years.

Col

The most likely scenario is that 50-2-1 is a French-Canadian and his English is American influenced. I am not aware of us being at war with the French Canadians since we duffed them up at Quebec.

Brian

Yes, two of the languages that I do speak and write are Québécois and Canadian English.

The most likely scenario is that 50-2-1 is a French-Canadian and his English is American influenced. I am not aware of us being at war with the French Canadians since we duffed them up at Quebec.

Brian

The most likely scenario is that 50-2-1 is a French-Canadian and his English is American influenced. I am not aware of us being at war with the French Canadians since we duffed them up at Quebec.

Brian

Just to clarify, I was referring to our near neighbours when I mentioned French. They are the ones that hate our guts.

Col

Just to clarify, I was referring to our near neighbours when I mentioned French. They are the ones that hate our guts.

Col

Don't be so modest Col
EVERYONE hates your guts. :D:D:D
Just kidding

Eastern and Northern Ontario is home to a large Francophone population. It is a lovely place to visit at this time of year when the leaves are changing.

We were there a few years ago and the colours were far better than in New England, which we went onto, which is the place that seems to get all the raves.

Brian

Yes, two of the languages that I do speak and write are Québécois and Canadian English.
Well despite the fact that there are one or two Americans here insisting that you only post in plain English most of us here are mature enough to ignore the rule and respond anyway, of course we have no control over whether or not you like the answers

The trees are very nice right now. This weekend many areas have their Festival des couleurs with lots of family activities to enjoy nature and the changing of the season.

Don't be so modest Col
EVERYONE hates your guts. :D:D:D
Just kidding



Many a true word. . . . . . . .

Col

Many a true word. . . . . . . .

Col

P.S. Belated birthday greetings and let me know how it goes on the 17th

P.S. Belated birthday greetings and let me know how it goes on the 17th

Thanks. Now that I'm eligible, I applied for my free bus pass yesterday - it should turn up next week.

I'm off to Bristol (180 miles away) this weekend for a family get together.
We (the band) have a rehearsal on monday night, then do the gig on the 17th, apparently the other band is a trio that specialise in T Rex stuff.

BTW, just bought my mate's almost new Fender precision red bass as a birthday present for me - very nice, lovely sound. I thought I should have at least one present, so I bought it myself.

Col

Many a true word. . . . . . . .Col

Not entirely true. Thanks to Col I am much more attentive to my spelling and grammar than I used to be. No excuse for being sloppy. He also opened my eyes to the reputation of the United States overseas. It's caused me to rethink many things in my own life and how I interact with people. Thanks for that, Col.

Bob, whilst you are waiting in the who's online section for someone to post a query so that you can be first to answer. Is there any chance you can answer my question please?

Col

whilst you are waiting in the who's online section

The irony here is killing me. Thanks for the lawlz.

Thanks for the lawlz.
Eh? :confused::confused:

The irony here is killing me. Thanks for the lawlz.

I don't understand that. . . . . . . . . "lawlz"?

Col

I don't understand that. . . . . . . . . "lawlz"?

Col

I think it means "Laughing A Whole Lot"

I think it means "Laughing A Whole Lot"
Ah, in that case do you know "what a pink slip Daddy" is, I've always thought it was a Dad wearing a pink underskirt because rather then being thought of as a Father he'd rather be the Mother.:confused:

I think it means "Laughing A Whole Lot"

If that is so, why the "z" at the end? Maybe George can explain his post.

Col

Just to clarify, I was referring to our near neighbours when I mentioned French. They are the ones that hate our guts.

Col

I'm thinking it would depend on how they are served :rolleyes:

Ah, in that case do you know "what a pink slip Daddy" is, I've always thought it was a Dad wearing a pink underskirt because rather then being thought of as a Father he'd rather be the Mother.:confused:

In the 1960's when the Beach Boys were recording the song, the "pink slip" was the vehicle ownership. In California this document was printed on pink paper. I believe other juristictions used different colours. In Ontario for example the ownership is green and its the insurance certificate that's pink.

Street racing for the pink slip meant you were racing for ownerships. The loser had to sign the vehicle transfer on the back of the pink slip over to the winner. If you lost the race, you lost the car.

Street racing for the pink slip meant you were racing for ownerships. The loser had to sign the vehicle transfer on the back of the pink slip over to the winner. If you lost the race, you lost the car.
As explained in that great documentary Grease. ;)

What's a flat head mill and why do American cars get pushed out of shape so easily and what rubber do they have to play with?:confused:

What's a flat head mill and why do American cars get pushed out of shape so easily and what rubber do they have to play with?:confused:

I'm guessing a mill is the engine. It's also well known that at that time in the 60's American cars were so poorly made that they virtually fell apart, so getting pushed out of shape was easy.

Nowadays of course American cars are mostly Japanese.

Col

What's a flat head mill and why do American cars get pushed out of shape so easily and what rubber do they have to play with?:confused:

Col is correct. Mill is a slang term for an engine. A flat head mill was a model ofGM engine common in the late 50s and early 60s.

The rubber refers to the remnants of the tires laid on the street when zooming away from a standing start.

Pushed out of shape is term I am not familiar with. Must be one of those California things.

Most of the Beach Boys songs during their "hot rod" period contained a lot of motor slang. The song "Shut You Down" refers to forcing your street racing opponent to blow their engine by exceeding the maximum RPM.

I get pushed out of shape and it's hard to steer


The composers are referring to g-forces acting on their human forms (not the vehicle's) when driving their 1932 Ford. Not only do the g-forces cause the driver's body to malform, the poor driver also has problems navigating his vehicle because of those stresses on his form and the laws of physics acting on the vehicle.

The composers are referring to g-forces acting on their human forms (not the vehicle's) when driving their 1932 Ford. Not only do the g-forces cause the driver's body to malform, the poor driver also has problems navigating his vehicle because of those stresses on his form and the laws of physics acting on the vehicle.
An American car exerting a g-force on the driver, now you're having a laugh, please try and keep to reality on threads here, it's only possible when going over the edge of a cliff

I don't think it's G forces on the driver - that's hard to believe in a car that maybe is less than 50% of a modern formula 1 car. Not logical.

Personally I think it's Brian Wilson (if he wrote it) or whoever, using poetic licence - i.e. He made it up.

Col

Just to continue. Wazz has replied a PM to me, I am hoping to find out who deleted my thread with no notice and who deleted my posing with no notice.

I am still awaiting a response from Bob re his comment about saying I have "mental issues" following a comment I made about John Lennon's death.

Nice thread Rich.

Col
why don't ask admin! I think he is the one can do it!

why don't ask admin! I think he is the one can do it!

I now know who did it. That matter is closed now.

Just waiting for Bob to reply to my question. I've asked politely several times here and have sent him 3 PM's but no contact whatsoever.

I think Bob is more interested in getting to the Access questions first as it gives the impression he is so clever.
Sadly, I have heard now from several others here who are upset about his tactics but won't report it because on these forums if you say a word out of line, you get the post deleted or you get banned.

Col

Personally I think it's Brian Wilson (if he wrote it) or whoever, using poetic licence - i.e. He made it up.

Really? Hard to imagine.

Actually a flat head engines refer to the cylinder head of the engine. Before overhead valves were commonly used the heads were basically a flat piece of cast metal with just cooling passages, spark plug hole and the upper part of the combustion chamber milled into it. They were not just a GM thing but for most US manufacturers they were phased out in the mid 1950s except for Nash and Hudson which used the flat heads until 1964 in the American Rambler.

Oushed out of shape refers to the distortion caused to the chassis of a car when it launches in a drag race. The frame twists because of the torque running the length of the vehicle. If you see old pictures of professional drag racers you can see the twisting of the vehicle.

Col is correct. Mill is a slang term for an engine. A flat head mill was a model ofGM engine common in the late 50s and early 60s.

The rubber refers to the remnants of the tires laid on the street when zooming away from a standing start.

Pushed out of shape is term I am not familiar with. Must be one of those California things.

Most of the Beach Boys songs during their "hot rod" period contained a lot of motor slang. The song "Shut You Down" refers to forcing your street racing opponent to blow their engine by exceeding the maximum RPM.

I think Bob is more interested in getting to the Access questions first as it gives the impression he is so clever.
Col

There are also many others who rapidly respond to questions (such as DCrake for example) - whose help has been invaluable for me, does your post apply to other helpful members too? Just wondered if you could clarify that as your post could be seen as rather offensive.

This has been my primary resource for developing a really useful database from scratch that is now used by about 25 people in my company, has over 30k records, and has improved efficiency and efficacy. If it weren't for these wonderful people spending their own free time helping others I would probably never have even attempted to figure out much of the complexity of Access.

I think my post is clear enough. If the post is viewed as offensive then that is up to the reader. It is merely my observation.

Just wondered if you could clarify that as your post could be seen as rather offensive.


BTW, you should have a comma between the words "that" and "as".

Col

There are also many others who rapidly respond to questions (such as DCrake for example) - whose help has been invaluable for me, does your post apply to other helpful members too? Just wondered if you could clarify that as your post could be seen as rather offensive.

PaulJR, First, thank you for expressing what value you have received from the forum. Your attitude is why many of us come here to help.

Second, you need to realize that people who post in threads like this are frequently being purposefully "offensive" to lure people in to long arguments about trivial stuff. I believe you'll find that many sites call this "trolling" and disallow it. My own personal forum sites (and many others) ban posters for trolling. However, this site allows it in the non-technical forums, or at least the "trolls" who frequent this site have had the decency to keep their trolling out of the technical forums for the most part.

I only mention it because I don't want to see a(nother) decent (dare I say innocent?) person get hurt by the nonsense that goes on in the Water Cooler forum. The stuff in the WC is nothing to take offense at.

Again, thanks for expressing your appreciation for the forums.

BTW, you should have a comma between the words "that" and "as".

Col
Not strictly necessary. See Fowlers' "Modern English Usage" for a more authorative explanation of this

Not strictly necessary. See Fowlers' "Modern English Usage" for a more authorative explanation of this

It's disgusting how the English language has lowered itself into this slovenly usage.

It's the influence of trans Atlantic language deviations that have degraded the Queen's (God bless her) English.
I think it is the end of civilisation as we know it if the English language is allowed to fall into this gutter of slum Yankee bastardisation.

If people can't use English correctly, then they should use another language that suits their common fast-food lifestyle, and not spoil our rich and varied language.

Col

PaulJR, First, thank you for expressing what value you have received from the forum. Your attitude is why many of us come here to help.

Second, you need to realize that people who post in threads like this are frequently being purposefully "offensive" to lure people in to long arguments about trivial stuff. I believe you'll find that many sites call this "trolling" and disallow it. My own personal forum sites (and many others) ban posters for trolling. However, this site allows it in the non-technical forums, or at least the "trolls" who frequent this site have had the decency to keep their trolling out of the technical forums for the most part.

I only mention it because I don't want to see a(nother) decent (dare I say innocent?) person get hurt by the nonsense that goes on in the Water Cooler forum. The stuff in the WC is nothing to take offense at.

Again, thanks for expressing your appreciation for the forums.
Well that's odd because those you accuse of being "trolls" have been answering questions on the main boards for years
This isn't an American based forum inspite of the efforts by some to turn it into one:rolleyes: