View Full Version : December 21 2012, should we be worried??


scott-atkinson
12-15-2009, 11:59 PM
Saw a docu on Sky tv last night about the prothecies of the Mayans, Nostrodamus, and the Egyptions about the end of the world in December 21 2012, should I be worried...:eek:

Made fascinating viewing, it suggested a cataclysmic event on this date when the sun aligns itself in the Age of Aquarius with the centre of the Galaxy, either a Global Extinction Event or the dawn of a new age for Man, either way a massive change is predicted...

I suppose my first question is, should I bother paying all my debtors... :p

Should I leave my wife and get a young teen mistress for the next 3 years...:p

Should I tell my boss where to stick it.. and bum around europe...:p



Please some sound advise is needed...

namliam
12-16-2009, 12:20 AM
Bull hockey, nothing will happen and 22 dec will come around just like normal.

Pauldohert
12-16-2009, 12:51 AM
Bollocks - thats when I have booked my days off from. Typical.

namliam
12-16-2009, 01:03 AM
Paul, you already booked days off for 2012... wow your here early :)

Pauldohert
12-16-2009, 01:09 AM
Paul, you already booked days off for 2012... wow your here early :)

2012 - its nothing to worry about then.

PaulJR
12-16-2009, 01:26 AM
I hope the event is as spectacular and breathtaking as the film 2012, might get some good photo opportunities!

namliam
12-16-2009, 04:26 AM
I am guessing it will be as eventfull as the y2K dissaster and the cataclysm following the solar eclips

Pauldohert
12-16-2009, 06:35 AM
I am guessing it will be as eventfull as the y2K dissaster and the cataclysm following the solar eclips

Its the apathy that worries me now.

Fifty2One
12-16-2009, 06:40 AM
I am worried - by the way it looks we might have an ample numbers of active volcanoes but I have fears over the dwindling supply of sacrificial virgins :eek:

Saw a docu on Sky tv last night about the prothecies of the Mayans, Nostrodamus, and the Egyptions about the end of the world in December 21 2012, should I be worried...:eek:

Made fascinating viewing, it suggested a cataclysmic event on this date when the sun aligns itself in the Age of Aquarius with the centre of the Galaxy, either a Global Extinction Event or the dawn of a new age for Man, either way a massive change is predicted...

I suppose my first question is, should I bother paying all my debtors... :p

Should I leave my wife and get a young teen mistress for the next 3 years...:p

Should I tell my boss where to stick it.. and bum around europe...:p



Please some sound advise is needed...

Pauldohert
12-16-2009, 07:14 AM
I am worried - by the way it looks we might have an ample numbers of active volcanoes but I have fears over the dwindling supply of sacrificial virgins :eek:

You have to pay a premium for that kind of thing. 10 Dollars a year over the age of 16 till the trend reverses at age 27. And 10 months in jail for every year below the age of 16.

namliam
12-17-2009, 01:04 AM
Its the apathy that worries me now.

Hows that? The world has ceased to exist atleast once every 10 years, if not 5 years.
All have been 'false' and even if there would be some cataclysmic thing, i.e. the sun blow up or what ever space alien come to conquer us, the earth swallows us all in one go... you make em up...

What can we do about it? Nothing thats what, so why worry about it?

Pauldohert
12-17-2009, 01:48 AM
Hows that? The world has ceased to exist atleast once every 10 years, if not 5 years.
All have been 'false' and even if there would be some cataclysmic thing, i.e. the sun blow up or what ever space alien come to conquer us, the earth swallows us all in one go... you make em up...

What can we do about it? Nothing thats what, so why worry about it?

We could move solar system, show them to mars or fight them off, and move to venus for you 3 examples.

Where theres a will theres a way. You seem resigned to you fate.

scott-atkinson
12-17-2009, 02:15 AM
Seriously guys, what are your views on the threat, as by three seperate occasions seperated by thousands of years have predicted this date as being a time of climatic change...

Is it a load of Poppycock... or just could there be something in it...

I have always been a little sceptical of Nostrodamuses prophetic verses as they are so cryptic that the reader could interpret them in many different ways..

Atomic Shrimp
12-17-2009, 02:27 AM
I think it's a load of old nonsense, but I'm worried. Worried because there are idiots out there who believe it. Who knows what kind of stupid things they might do?

namliam
12-17-2009, 02:36 AM
We could move solar system, show them to mars or fight them off, and move to venus for you 3 examples.

Where theres a will theres a way. You seem resigned to you fate.

Show them to Mars, right...
Move solar system, fly in what spaceship that would be designed inside of 2 years, build, take off and hold 6 billion people + food and water for 500+? year flight?

As for moving to venus, well... if the sun were to explode that would help little, still if the earth were to go boom... maybe that would help. All we need now is a space ship and a livable atmosphere on Venus... so if you can have the ship build and the planet "teraformed"?

OK so now come up with viable solutions? I.e. Dispose of every possible source of cataclysm like,
- shoot all XBombs to space
- destroy all weaponry
- abolish all religions
- etc

Pauldohert
12-17-2009, 02:42 AM
Show them to Mars, right...
Move solar system, fly in what spaceship that would be designed inside of 2 years, build, take off and hold 6 billion people + food and water for 500+? year flight?

As for moving to venus, well... if the sun were to explode that would help little, still if the earth were to go boom... maybe that would help. All we need now is a space ship and a livable atmosphere on Venus... so if you can have the ship build and the planet "teraformed"?

OK so now come up with viable solutions? I.e. Dispose of every possible source of cataclysm like,
- shoot all XBombs to space
- destroy all weaponry
- abolish all religions
- etc

Have you not seen Battlestar Galactica? So a viable craft was designed in the 70s. That gives 30 plus years to build it.

I'll be getting aboard. If you dont feel the need to bother thats up to you.

namliam
12-17-2009, 03:17 AM
Battlestar Galactica?? WOW... yeah sure... DS9, Enterprise, Babylon, while we are at it Stargate, or why not use a time machine like in "back to the future" ??
Or perhaps one as per the invention of Prof. Barabas??

LOL

OK So lets assume Galatica actually has some sort of design to it... given international standings, how are we going to have one central military ship to "head" our fleet of ships to house all people? Sure the Hypotheses is nice, but it aint gonna work.

I even doubt a scenario like "armageddon" where an astroid is inbound to destroy earth and we blow it up would be "possible" to pull off. Forget about the (im)possible things of landing on something that going a million miles per hour
Forget about getting enough explosives ...
Forget about getting there and stuff.... Just getting politics lined up and nations working together etc.... is going to prove the hurdle which will delay us "long enough" to watch it crash into the next solar system.

Pauldohert
12-17-2009, 03:26 AM
Battlestar Galactica?? WOW... yeah sure... DS9, Enterprise, Babylon, while we are at it Stargate, or why not use a time machine like in "back to the future" ??
Or perhaps one as per the invention of Prof. Barabas??

LOL

OK So lets assume Galatica actually has some sort of design to it... given international standings, how are we going to have one central military ship to "head" our fleet of ships to house all people? Sure the Hypotheses is nice, but it aint gonna work.

I even doubt a scenario like "armageddon" where an astroid is inbound to destroy earth and we blow it up would be "possible" to pull off. Forget about the (im)possible things of landing on something that going a million miles per hour
Forget about getting enough explosives ...
Forget about getting there and stuff.... Just getting politics lined up and nations working together etc.... is going to prove the hurdle which will delay us "long enough" to watch it crash into the next solar system.

I suppose its already been built, as I said they had the ideas in the 70s - and from what I remember those on Galactica mostly had American accents, and they are the leaders in space travel. So the US likely has it built already.

I dont suppose they will be too bothered if other nations jon them or not- certainly they are not going to watse their time trying to persude reluctant nations.

Hopefully the US will let British citizens aboard, if only to give the dentists something to do.

georgedwilkinson
12-17-2009, 04:35 AM
Its the apathy that worries me now.

Meh...who cares?

ajetrumpet
12-17-2009, 04:53 AM
Should I tell my boss where to stick it.. and bum around europe...:p


if he's from Australia, we already know where he's sticking it. :D :D :D :D :D

namliam
12-17-2009, 05:13 AM
So the US likely has it built already.

:eek:
:D
;)
:rolleyes:
:p
:)

Brianwarnock
12-17-2009, 06:03 AM
I can't decide whose winding who up, Paul or Namliam ?

Brian

Pauldohert
12-17-2009, 06:12 AM
I can't decide whose winding who up, Paul or Namliam ?

Brian

Scott started my worries - I was blissfully unaware of dates, though thetan teaching had led me to beleive something like this was likely to happen. 3 independent sources must have something to it.

Theres a lot to be wound up about - we should all be wound up about this. The world is ending. That affects us all.

Its not a time to panic but to make alternative arrangements. I'm thinking the 80 to South Parkway, to town, and then the Galatica from the cruise terminal - passport control withstanding. Otherwise I'll have to get to Southampton somehow.

Brianwarnock
12-17-2009, 06:15 AM
. I'm thinking the 80 to South Parkway, to town, and then the Galatica from the cruise terminal - passport control withstanding. Otherwise I'll have to get to Southampton somehow.

'Phone Village Cabs it will be quicker and easier to manage the bags.

Brian

Pauldohert
12-17-2009, 06:17 AM
'Phone Village Cabs it will be quicker and easier to manage the bags.

Brian

I wasn't going to take a bag. Its not a holiday is it. Maybe a few sandwiches.

Alc
12-17-2009, 06:18 AM
Show them to Mars, right...
Move solar system, fly in what spaceship that would be designed inside of 2 years, build, take off and hold 6 billion people + food and water for 500+? year flight?
The US government already has these in secret hangars. They copied the technology from captured alien craft. ;)

Brianwarnock
12-17-2009, 06:23 AM
I wasn't going to take a bag. Its not a holiday is it. Maybe a few sandwiches.

What about your Tinnies and a change of Y-Fronts?

Brian

Pauldohert
12-17-2009, 06:27 AM
What about your Tinnies and a change of Y-Fronts?

Brian

I keep my tinnies in boxers thankyou.

namliam
12-17-2009, 06:35 AM
The US government already has these in secret hangars. They copied the technology from captured alien craft. ;)

Star trek and such are actually real live soaps not Sci Fy :)

Pauldohert
12-17-2009, 06:46 AM
Star trek and such are actually real live soaps not Sci Fy :)

This is like comparing God with the spagetti monster -just cos you can think of one rediculous idea and somehow equate the two - doesn't mean the other is equally unsound.

A viable plan may have nothing to to with StarTrek - which lets face it is now nothing more than a franchise.

jamesmor
12-17-2009, 08:10 AM
honestly, i can say i'm not worried about it, nor any solution to the changes that will happen on that date.

do i have the money to do anything about it? no
will i have the money to do anything about it in 2 years? no
is it going to do me any good to worry? no

i put my trust in god, his will is going to be done no matter what

(though i do have my wife believing that Obama is the anti-christ, good times)

kmb
12-17-2009, 10:30 AM
Consider this....maybe the climatic change is a shift in how we live...maybe we are going back to the dark ages...I see any "armageddon" as a change, not an end.

Alc
12-17-2009, 10:34 AM
Consider this....maybe the climatic change is a shift in how we live...maybe we are going back to the dark ages...I see any "armageddon" as a change, not an end.
If this armageddon destroys the world, it's one hell of a big change, from a human perspective.

Rabbie
12-17-2009, 10:46 AM
This is like comparing God with the spagetti monster -just cos you can think of one rediculous idea and somehow equate the two - doesn't mean the other is equally unsound.

A viable plan may have nothing to to with StarTrek - which lets face it is now nothing more than a franchise.
Don't mock the Spaghetti Monster or his friend the Tooth fairy will zap you:D

kmb
12-17-2009, 10:47 AM
Thats if you are assuming that armageddon is a destruction event and not more of a "restructuring" event. I am not overly religious about this, I just think that doomsday scenarios are overplayed.

Brianwarnock
12-17-2009, 10:56 AM
Thats if you are assuming that armageddon is a destruction event and not more of a "restructuring" event. .

Armageddon is actually not an event but a field in the middle east where lots of battles where fought in days long ago.

Brian

Alc
12-17-2009, 11:18 AM
Armageddon is actually not an event but a field in the middle east where lots of battles where fought in days long ago.

Brian
So we're meant to be worried about whether a field will come back in a couple of years' time? :confused:

Does it contain some particularly nasty cows or something?

Fifty2One
12-17-2009, 12:14 PM
For those who are unaware there is an escapepod which has been constructed and is parked in a secret location in Canada. This is supposed to be a secret but I have no fear of reprecussions as I refuse to carry a cell phone so the government can not read my thoughts as I type this message. I also do not have a credit card which contains those GPS locator chips so there is no way they can trace where I am typing this message from and therefore can not make my message fade off your screen and
THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED BY THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROTECTION TASK FORCE

Rich
12-17-2009, 12:53 PM
I think it's a load of old nonsense, but I'm worried. Worried because there are idiots out there who believe it. Who knows what kind of stupid things they might do?
They'll end up prancing around Stonehenge waiting for the next lunatic's prophesy:rolleyes::D

Vassago
12-17-2009, 03:07 PM
(though i do have my wife believing that Obama is the anti-christ, good times)

He can't be the anti-christ. I can't imagine that even the anti-christ would want to take over from Bush's mess.

wiklendt
12-17-2009, 04:08 PM
You seem resigned to your fate.

PMSL!!!! this is funny on so many different levels :)

wiklendt
12-17-2009, 05:14 PM
i put my trust in god

ever stopped to think who put all these ridiculous thoughts into peoples' heads in the first place? religion is a farce. people (religious leaders) use religion to scare the shit out of other people (followers) in order to make them (followers) do what they (leaders) want.

it's usually abuse driven and a front to either make people miserable or to get money off them. most often it's both.

originally i think religions came about by people wanting to 'know' (in a philosophical sense), but eventually narcissistic, power-hungry f-wits realised they could manipulate the situation and lo and behold came about corporate religion.

georgedwilkinson
12-17-2009, 07:45 PM
ever stopped to think who put all these ridiculous thoughts into peoples' heads in the first place? religion is a farce. people (religious leaders) use religion to scare the shit out of other people (followers) in order to make them (followers) do what they (leaders) want.

it's usually abuse driven and a front to either make people miserable or to get money off them. most often it's both.

originally i think religions came about by people wanting to 'know' (in a philosophical sense), but eventually narcissistic, power-hungry f-wits realised they could manipulate the situation and lo and behold came about corporate religion.

You kiss your mama with that mouth?

There are those of us who find great comfort (and much more) in our religion and feel neither like an abuser/manipulator nor like one who is abused/manipulated.

ShaneMan
12-17-2009, 07:49 PM
ever stopped to think who put all these ridiculous thoughts into peoples' heads in the first place? religion is a farce. people (religious leaders) use religion to scare the shit out of other people (followers) in order to make them (followers) do what they (leaders) want.

it's usually abuse driven and a front to either make people miserable or to get money off them. most often it's both.

originally i think religions came about by people wanting to 'know' (in a philosophical sense), but eventually narcissistic, power-hungry f-wits realised they could manipulate the situation and lo and behold came about corporate religion.

Thanks wiklendt (as in you) for helping us (dense religious folks) understand how we (mindless followers) have been so duped by religion and it's leaders.:rolleyes:

AccessProgram
12-17-2009, 07:58 PM
I think the more important question is:

What should we do now so that we will not worry about such things?

Rich
12-17-2009, 10:03 PM
Thanks wiklendt (as in you) for helping us (dense religious folks) understand how we (mindless followers) have been so duped by religion and it's leaders.:rolleyes:
It's a difficult job Shane, but somebody has to do it:D

wiklendt
12-17-2009, 10:14 PM
You kiss your mama with that mouth?

There are those of us who find great comfort (and much more) in our religion and feel neither like an abuser/manipulator nor like one who is abused/manipulated.

if you're allowed to like your religion, then i'm allowed not to like mine.

i had a catholic upbringing, and i have several issues with catholicism - i'm not saying religions don't have their positives, but more often than not, the cons outweigh the pros. and not just catholicism.

case in point: i've yet to find a pope who hasn't condemned homosexuals. (edit: and you'd be surprised how many people follow his word blindly - which is why his "condoms perpatuate HIV/AIDS" comments are so scary, people don't stop to think, they just do what they're told (granted, not all people). very very scary)

like, i don't see how mutual and consensual love between two adults can damn you to hell, but hey, some people believe it enough to murder gays - figure that one out for a christian act. then they simply confess and get a clean slate (so they believe). i can't be part of that kind of belief system.

i'd rather be a good person and do good by others rather than being told that if i sin, it's ok because i can confess my sins and re-set my going-to-heaven eligibility, or be told that by being born i've sinned (WTF??!?) and i have no hope because of my sexuality.

there are many other examples of cons besides sexuality that i disagree on (the crusades was an obvious "oops" for the church, idea of condemning babies to purgatory, buying your way into heaven, you are not worthy, all that damned "testing" your faith, etc etc) - and god help you if you're a woman, a non-heterosexual, a child, or an animal - talk about mass patriarchy. not so bad now (still around, of course) but certainly more obvious in history (like, being stoned to death if you went to watch a sport and happened to be not a man).

there are also many points that i agree on (love thy neighbour, do unto others..., turn the other cheek, etc, etc) but if i disagree so much on so many points, i can't consider myself a part of that religion, and i also can't consider that religion to be good.

it's more so what humans have done TO and WITH and IN THE NAME of religion that i object to. people use religion justify their actions (or as an excuse) when they don't see that their actions are causing more harm than what they're 'fighting' for.

i'm just not comfortable with that. i'm content in just being a good person without all the B.S. and severely condescending attitude/behaviour/metality (which i only noticed once i left the church) that catholicism forces on people - it's plain unethical.

how would you feel if your partner "tested" you every week to see if you still loved them? it's insulting, and i don't believe that god (or colourful variation of) is that arrogant, self-indulgent, or disrespectful to actually *need* to test people. puh-lease.

hm. bit of baggage there, i think. *blush*

georgedwilkinson
12-17-2009, 10:18 PM
Suit yourself.

Rich
12-17-2009, 10:56 PM
I think Catholicism should be banned under health and safety rules, all those men in frocks swinging their balls around during the service, if the chain breaks during the ritual it could be a real eye opener

Pauldohert
12-18-2009, 12:44 AM
I think Catholicism should be banned under health and safety rules, all those men in frocks swinging their balls around during the service, if the chain breaks during the ritual it could be a real eye opener


Their balls smell nice though.

Pauldohert
12-18-2009, 02:30 AM
if you're allowed to like your religion, then i'm allowed not to like mine.

i had a catholic upbringing, and i have several issues with catholicism - i'm not saying religions don't have their positives, but more often than not, the cons outweigh the pros. and not just catholicism.

case in point: i've yet to find a pope who hasn't condemned homosexuals. (edit: and you'd be surprised how many people follow his word blindly - which is why his "condoms perpatuate HIV/AIDS" comments are so scary, people don't stop to think, they just do what they're told (granted, not all people). very very scary)

like, i don't see how mutual and consensual love between two adults can damn you to hell, but hey, some people believe it enough to murder gays - figure that one out for a christian act. then they simply confess and get a clean slate (so they believe). i can't be part of that kind of belief system.

i'd rather be a good person and do good by others rather than being told that if i sin, it's ok because i can confess my sins and re-set my going-to-heaven eligibility, or be told that by being born i've sinned (WTF??!?) and i have no hope because of my sexuality.

there are many other examples of cons besides sexuality that i disagree on (the crusades was an obvious "oops" for the church, idea of condemning babies to purgatory, buying your way into heaven, you are not worthy, all that damned "testing" your faith, etc etc) - and god help you if you're a woman, a non-heterosexual, a child, or an animal - talk about mass patriarchy. not so bad now (still around, of course) but certainly more obvious in history (like, being stoned to death if you went to watch a sport and happened to be not a man).

there are also many points that i agree on (love thy neighbour, do unto others..., turn the other cheek, etc, etc) but if i disagree so much on so many points, i can't consider myself a part of that religion, and i also can't consider that religion to be good.

it's more so what humans have done TO and WITH and IN THE NAME of religion that i object to. people use religion justify their actions (or as an excuse) when they don't see that their actions are causing more harm than what they're 'fighting' for.

i'm just not comfortable with that. i'm content in just being a good person without all the B.S. and severely condescending attitude/behaviour/metality (which i only noticed once i left the church) that catholicism forces on people - it's plain unethical.

how would you feel if your partner "tested" you every week to see if you still loved them? it's insulting, and i don't believe that god (or colourful variation of) is that arrogant, self-indulgent, or disrespectful to actually *need* to test people. puh-lease.

hm. bit of baggage there, i think. *blush*

Merry Christmas!

Rich
12-18-2009, 03:49 AM
Their balls smell nice though.
Made me feel sick

dan-cat
12-18-2009, 04:24 AM
Does it contain some particularly nasty cows or something?

Let's not get bullish over this.

Alc
12-18-2009, 04:42 AM
ever stopped to think who put all these ridiculous thoughts into peoples' heads in the first place? religion is a farce. people (religious leaders) use religion to scare the shit out of other people (followers) in order to make them (followers) do what they (leaders) want.

it's usually abuse driven and a front to either make people miserable or to get money off them. most often it's both.

originally i think religions came about by people wanting to 'know' (in a philosophical sense), but eventually narcissistic, power-hungry f-wits realised they could manipulate the situation and lo and behold came about corporate religion.
Somebody's getting a smiting for Christmas. :p

dan-cat
12-18-2009, 04:42 AM
This is like comparing God with the spagetti monster -just cos you can think of one rediculous idea and somehow equate the two - doesn't mean the other is equally unsound.

I've never liked reductio ad absurdum. It's an open invite for false analogies.

Alc
12-18-2009, 04:44 AM
Their balls smell nice though.
Ex alter boy, by any chance?

Alc
12-18-2009, 04:56 AM
Let's not get bullish over this.
I refuse to be cowed. If you have an udder explanation, I'd like to hear it?

tehNellie
12-18-2009, 05:12 AM
Just to neatly ignore the religion squabbling ;)

Saw a docu on Sky tv last night about the prothecies of the Mayans, Nostrodamus, and the Egyptions about the end of the world in December 21 2012, should I be worried
I'd say that if you want a date to worry about 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, 19 January 2038 should be one for the diary.

That's the point at which 32bit Unix systems reset their system time to be 1901 again as they store system time in a signed 32bit integer as the number of seconds since 1st Jan 1970.

But I'm sure there wont be any 32bit Systems kicking around by then right? :D

dan-cat
12-18-2009, 05:26 AM
I refuse to be cowed. If you have an udder explanation, I'd like to hear it?


Stop milking it and put this topic out to pasture.

Pauldohert
12-18-2009, 06:11 AM
I've never liked reductio ad absurdum. It's an open invite for false analogies.

Nothing wrong with reductio ad absurdum. Its the false analogies which are the problem.

Brianwarnock
12-18-2009, 06:12 AM
It was a field not a pasture.

Brian

;)

Pauldohert
12-18-2009, 06:37 AM
Ex alter boy, by any chance?

No - I didn't want to go for the bell at the wrong time.

Alc
12-18-2009, 06:46 AM
It was a field not a pasture.
Brian

According to
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cow+pasture
a pasture is a type of field.
"grazing land (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/grazing+land), ley (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ley), pasture (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pasture), pastureland (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pastureland), lea (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lea) - a field covered with grass or herbage and suitable for grazing by livestock"

Can you say without any doubt that before all the battles started, no animals had grazed on it?

Brianwarnock
12-18-2009, 07:04 AM
According to
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cow+pasture
a pasture is a type of field.
"grazing land (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/grazing+land), ley (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ley), pasture (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pasture), pastureland (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pastureland), lea (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lea) - a field covered with grass or herbage and suitable for grazing by livestock"

Can you say without any doubt that before all the battles started, no animals had grazed on it?

Hey I was just joining the fun, there were no livestock on it when I passed , but there might have been before or after, can't say.

Brian

Alc
12-18-2009, 07:08 AM
Hey I was just joining the fun, there were no livestock on it when I passed , but there might have been before or after, can't say.

Brian
Fun?

I'm pinning all my beliefs on this small fact. I've decided, without any real evidence, that cattle were present and that anyone who says there wasn't is a heretic and can be killed by me, thereby ensuring my place in heaven.

Brianwarnock
12-18-2009, 07:13 AM
LOL,

Think Nomads and cover all bases.

Brian

Vassago
12-18-2009, 08:25 AM
Sounds like BS to me... :D

Alc
12-18-2009, 09:17 AM
Sounds like BS to me... :D
You're perfectly entitled to heifer different opinion.

Vassago
12-18-2009, 11:31 AM
You're perfectly entitled to heifer different opinion.

This had my eyes grazed over...

Rich
12-18-2009, 11:40 AM
This had my eyes grazed over...
Yeh, go on pull the udder one

Vassago
12-18-2009, 01:04 PM
Yeh, go on pull the udder one

You first. Go ahead, grab the bull by the horns.

wiklendt
12-18-2009, 01:08 PM
Somebody's getting a smiting for Christmas. :p

i might get a smiting for speaking out against injustice, but what i'm giving this year to each of my family members is a 'gift' from oxfam (http://www.oxfam.org/en/getinvolved/unwrapped) to help OTHER families and communities.

i'll surely go to hell for that!

Rich
12-19-2009, 12:27 AM
You first. Go ahead, grab the bull by the horns.
You're gonna milk this one for all it's worth, anyway I thought you were a
teatotaller:p

Thales750
12-19-2009, 05:04 AM
Saw a docu on Sky tv last night about the prothecies of the Mayans, Nostrodamus, and the Egyptions about the end of the world in December 21 2012, should I be worried...:eek:

Made fascinating viewing, it suggested a cataclysmic event on this date when the sun aligns itself in the Age of Aquarius with the centre of the Galaxy, either a Global Extinction Event or the dawn of a new age for Man, either way a massive change is predicted...

I suppose my first question is, should I bother paying all my debtors... :p

Should I leave my wife and get a young teen mistress for the next 3 years...:p

Should I tell my boss where to stick it.. and bum around europe...:p



Please some sound advise is needed...

that's sound advise in anytimes.

Thales750
12-19-2009, 05:12 AM
The US government already has these in secret hangars. They copied the technology from captured alien craft. ;)

If you have the clearence to know that, you shouldn't post it on the internet.

Thales750
12-19-2009, 05:16 AM
PMSL!!!! this is funny on so many different levels :)

You look like that singer woman from Britain.

dan-cat
12-19-2009, 05:39 AM
This had my eyes grazed over...

Taurus all up didn't it?

Fifty2One
12-19-2009, 05:47 AM
From what I understand it would be the people who have a problem with charity during the holiday season who will be going there.

i might get a smiting for speaking out against injustice, but what i'm giving this year to each of my family members is a 'gift' from oxfam (http://www.oxfam.org/en/getinvolved/unwrapped) to help OTHER families and communities.

i'll surely go to hell for that!

ColinEssex
12-19-2009, 08:13 AM
From what I understand it would be the people who have a problem with charity during the holiday season who will be going there.

Charity should not just be restricted to the pagan December festival. I ignore charities all year round.

I'm sick of giving money away only to find it gets "filtered" before it reaches whoever needs it. Africa has had billions and billions of pounds over the years yet they still ask for more - yet the warlords there use it to fund their civil wars and petty squabbles.

Then you see this wafer thin kid walking 5 miles to collect water, then 5 miles back - why not move closer to the water?

It's not rocket science.

Anyway, I need my money to upkeep my lifestyle.

Col

wiklendt
12-20-2009, 12:33 PM
Then you see this wafer thin kid walking 5 miles to collect water, then 5 miles back - why not move closer to the water?


just when i thought i'd heard it all.

and how long does it take you to get to work? 30 mins? 1 hour? why don't YOU move closer to work, seeing as you'd be doing it every day (i'm making some assumptions here, i know, but hey, weren't you also?)

(edit: i'm pretty sure the wafer thin kid isn't complaining about walking 5 miles a day - it's the people who know life can be better for them that are advocating for equality, hygiene, food and shelter for people like Wafer).

wiklendt
12-20-2009, 12:35 PM
You look like that singer woman from Britain.

and just about as crazy as, mister thin-air!

(edit: that's refering to thales' avatar, or rather, lack of one)

scott-atkinson
12-21-2009, 02:53 AM
The big fuss is being made simply because the Mayan calendar ends on december 21st 2012, and that Nostrodamus predicted around this date that something would happen and that the egyptions have this date in their calendar as a time of world change...

Spooky or simply a coincidence?

I personally would like to think that it is a load of Bollo*cks, in fact I hope that it is, as my two children would only be 9 & 10 respectively and would have hardly had time to live...

Perhaps the Mayans, simply couldn't be arsed any more to keep a calendar uptodate, after all who the hell was gonna use it...

Nostrodamus was obviously so stoned that he would probably wrote anything, and probably wrote most of the Lyrics for the Beatles Sgt Peppers period..

The egyptions were probably too concerned about incestual sex to even know what time it was let alone the future...

But hey, only time will tell.....

Brianwarnock
12-21-2009, 03:08 AM
The thing that amazes me is how these old civilisations knew what calendar we would be using in 2012 , spooky or what. :eek:

Brian

Pauldohert
12-21-2009, 03:19 AM
The thing that amazes me is how these old civilisations knew what calendar we would be using in 2012 , spooky or what. :eek:

Brian

Yeh - Pirelli or Kittens.

Adam Caramon
12-21-2009, 03:54 AM
I personally would like to think that it is a load of Bollo*cks, in fact I hope that it is, as my two children would only be 9 & 10 respectively and would have hardly had time to live...

Don't worry about it. There are many mysteries left in the world, but a secret date when the world will suddenly end isn't one of them.

Rich
12-21-2009, 05:35 AM
Yeh - Pirelli or Kittens.
Pit babes :cool:

Thales750
12-21-2009, 06:03 AM
and just about as crazy as, mister thin-air!

(edit: that's refering to thales' avatar, or rather, lack of one)

Although I must say, you are much prettier than she is.

Pauldohert
12-21-2009, 06:06 AM
Although I must say, you are much prettier than she is.

Stop digging.

Thales750
12-21-2009, 06:12 AM
The thing that amazes me is how these old civilisations knew what calendar we would be using in 2012 , spooky or what. :eek:

Brian

Not really spooky.

I taught my daughter multiplication at age 4. There have many mathematicians in history.

We tend to discount ancient intellect because we assume that collective knowledge built over centuries makes us more intelligent. It does make us appear smarter, because we are not locked in to making the same erroneous assumption that our predecessors made.
There have always been Newtons, Pythagoreans, and Einsteins.

Pauldohert
12-21-2009, 06:28 AM
Not really spooky.

I taught my daughter multiplication at age 4. There have many mathematicians in history.

We tend to discount ancient intellect because we assume that collective knowledge built over centuries makes us more intelligent. It does make us appear smarter, because we are not locked in to making the same erroneous assumption that our predecessors made.
There have always been Newtons, Pythagoreans, and Einsteins.

Nice - but whats that got to do with it?

namliam
12-21-2009, 06:35 AM
The thing that amazes me is how these old civilisations knew what calendar we would be using in 2012 , spooky or what. :eek:

Brian

Actually they didnt, they had their own calander which was re-calculated to fit our's

They actually made a mistake in recalcing it and put this date somewhere 2010 ....

Thales750
12-21-2009, 06:35 AM
Nice - but whats that got to do with it?

They were able to predict the alignment of the heavenly bodies; thus accurately predicting the end of the world.

Haven't you been listening?

Thales750
12-21-2009, 06:36 AM
Actually they didnt, they had their own calander which was re-calculated to fit our's

They actually made a mistake in recalcing it and put this date somewhere 2010 ....

Thank you for answering that for me.

Pauldohert
12-21-2009, 06:39 AM
Thank you for answering that for me.

I think Nam is contradicting you isn't he?

Are you telling us the Mayans where intellignet enough to be right?

Brianwarnock
12-21-2009, 07:21 AM
Since some people have decided to take my comment seriously are they telling me that the ancients predicted a date based on the alignment of the heavenly bodies and that we have translated this to this date in 2012, further are we saying that this is the only time in the life of the universe that this will happen.

Brian

Pauldohert
12-21-2009, 07:23 AM
Since some people have decided to take my comment seriously are they telling me that the ancients predicted a date based on the alignment of the heavenly bodies and that we have translated this to this date in 2012, further are we saying that this is the only time in the life of the universe that this will happen.

Brian

I never take you seriuosly.

Brianwarnock
12-21-2009, 07:35 AM
I never take you seriuosly.

Ok but what about seriously? :D

BTW I still think Rafa is rubbish.

Brian

Pauldohert
12-21-2009, 07:41 AM
Ok but what about seriously? :D

BTW I still think Rafa is rubbish.

Brian

Now I am starting to question my previous statement.

Rich
12-21-2009, 08:01 AM
BTW I still think Rafa is rubbish.

Brian
The team's not much better either:p:cool:

ColinEssex
12-21-2009, 09:18 AM
just when i thought i'd heard it all.

and how long does it take you to get to work? 30 mins? 1 hour? why don't YOU move closer to work, seeing as you'd be doing it every day (i'm making some assumptions here, i know, but hey, weren't you also?)

When I was working, I did move to within a 10 minute ride.

(edit: i'm pretty sure the wafer thin kid isn't complaining about walking 5 miles a day - it's the people who know life can be better for them that are advocating for equality, hygiene, food and shelter for people like Wafer).

Ok, if the kid is happy to do it let him/her get on with it. It's like child sweat shops. The kids do it for the money for their family, and a very nice job they make of it - little fingers = little stiches. It's better than child prostitution (but not as lucrative)

Col

Brianwarnock
12-21-2009, 10:39 AM
The team's not much better either:p:cool:

Fulham 3 Manure 0

Brian

PS I agree Liverpool are rubbish

ColinEssex
12-21-2009, 01:18 PM
just when i thought i'd heard it all.



Actually Sweetie, I wouldn't worry your pretty little head about it.
Just concentrate on the important things in life, like chocolates, shoes and handbags and trying to reverse park parallel to a kerb.

Col

speakers_86
12-21-2009, 04:45 PM
Just to neatly ignore the religion squabbling ;)


I'd say that if you want a date to worry about 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, 19 January 2038 should be one for the diary.

That's the point at which 32bit Unix systems reset their system time to be 1901 again as they store system time in a signed 32bit integer as the number of seconds since 1st Jan 1970.

But I'm sure there wont be any 32bit Systems kicking around by then right? :D

Since we have already had a Y2K, I don't see how this could be a problem.

Isn't 2038 the date that the asteroid is supposed to come between us and the moon?

speakers_86
12-21-2009, 04:48 PM
Another interesting thing is that I have heard the Mayans predicted the arrival of the Spaniards to the date.

Rich
12-21-2009, 09:35 PM
Fulham 3 Manure 0

Brian

PS I agree Liverpool are rubbish
Manure 2nd
The Puds headed for relegation ?:confused::D

wiklendt
12-21-2009, 09:50 PM
shoes and handbags.

mine might not be pretty enough, honey - can i borrow yours?

ColinEssex
12-22-2009, 04:31 AM
mine might not be pretty enough, honey - can i borrow yours?

I think not. I never lend anything to anybody.

Oh, and you should have started with a capital "M" in your reply,and also the "i" should be a capital.

Col

Vassago
12-22-2009, 10:13 AM
The Ancient Mayans also predicted that the Cowboys would defeat the Saints Saturday night... everyone thought they couldn't do it...

Thales750
12-22-2009, 10:27 AM
The Ancient Mayans also predicted that the Cowboys would defeat the Saints Saturday night... everyone thought they couldn't do it...

There is a God.

ColinEssex
12-22-2009, 01:19 PM
There is a God.

. . . . . . . .and he is American.

God bless America and all who sail in her.

Col

wiklendt
12-22-2009, 03:51 PM
I think not. I never lend anything to anybody.

Oh, and you should have started with a capital "M" in your reply,and also the "i" should be a capital.

meh. do i look worried? i have different priorities.

georgedwilkinson
12-22-2009, 04:18 PM
meh. do i look worried?

Come to think of it, you always look exactly the way you did before. What's up with that?

speakers_86
12-22-2009, 08:40 PM
God bless America and all who sail in her.

Col

Whoever that is logged into Col's account, I do not think he would appreciate it one bit that you are using his name.

More seriously, I would like to know why you have soooo much to say about America? This is not something I want to fight with you over, but I just don't understand how the majority of your posts have something to do with America.

wiklendt
12-22-2009, 10:11 PM
Come to think of it, you always look exactly the way you did before. What's up with that?

i've just not changed my avatar in ages ;)

Rich
12-22-2009, 10:35 PM
. . . . . . . .and he is American.

Col
You forgot WHITE;)

Rich
12-22-2009, 10:37 PM
More seriously, I would like to know why you have soooo much to say about America?
Where to begin:confused:

wiklendt
12-23-2009, 12:47 AM
You forgot WHITE;)

and MALE :rolleyes:

wiklendt
12-23-2009, 12:48 AM
(see, i can use capitals!)

ColinEssex
12-23-2009, 04:34 AM
More seriously, I would like to know why you have soooo much to say about America? This is not something I want to fight with you over, but I just don't understand how the majority of your posts have something to do with America.

Ok, I'll tell you. Everytime we turn on the news we see America going on about something or other. It reckons it is the ruler of the world, it dictates to everyone else what they should or shouldn't do.

I just wish America would just shut up and let people get on with their lives.

All America seems to achieve is to make matters worse or end up killing thousands of innocent people. I really don't know why the USA thinks it is so great.

Col

Thales750
12-23-2009, 04:41 AM
Whoever that is logged into Col's account, I do not think he would appreciate it one bit that you are using his name.

More seriously, I would like to know why you have soooo much to say about America? This is not something I want to fight with you over, but I just don't understand how the majority of your posts have something to do with America.

Jealousy; how do you think it would feel to know, that for the rest of your life, all you had to look forward to was living on a dreary little island.
Cheer up Col, global warming might make mother England into a tropical paradise. Then who would be laughing last? hehehe.

Kinger43
12-23-2009, 04:48 AM
Here is where your problem is Col; you seem to think that everybody in America is that way. What you don't realize is that it is our politicians and media that behave in that manner. Most of us here in the USA would like them to leave us alone as well, but you see these power hungry socialists that we have right now won't let that happen. They wish to control every aspect of everybodies lives. Something else you should know is that it was people like you who put these socialists in power.

scott-atkinson
12-23-2009, 05:02 AM
Here is where your problem is Col; you seem to think that everybody in America is that way. What you don't realize is that it is our politicians and media that behave in that manner. Most of us here in the USA would like them to leave us alone as well, but you see these power hungry socialists that we have right now won't let that happen. They wish to control every aspect of everybodies lives. Something else you should know is that it was people like you who put these socialists in power.

Our administration isn't any better, our so called leaders tell us what we should be doing then do the complete opposite themselves...

I had no wish to give greedy bankers my hard earned money through Tax just to keep them in their mansions and sports cars...

I lost my hoime through this governments mishandling of the banks and the economy, yet they up until recently could afford to keep more than 1 home on expenses...paid for by me..

People say well it is the peoples fault for voting them in, but every political party is the same when they get into power...

The old saying.. Power Currupts, and absolute power currupts absolutely...

Thales750
12-23-2009, 05:02 AM
Here is where your problem is Col; you seem to think that everybody in America is that way. What you don't realize is that it is our politicians and media that behave in that manner. Most of us here in the USA would like them to leave us alone as well, but you see these power hungry socialists that we have right now won't let that happen. They wish to control every aspect of everybodies lives. Something else you should know is that it was people like you who put these socialists in power.

You might want to start a real debate on a new thread in politics. Taking a pot shot at our new democracy after 8 years of dictatorship. How uninformed could a person possibly be? Col, you are about to witness America the way it really is, divided by false profits, under the guise of preserving the family values…

The biggest scourge in America is right wing propaganda.

georgedwilkinson
12-23-2009, 06:32 AM
Oh, I dunno, I thought Kinger hit the nail right on the head.

Rich
12-23-2009, 06:33 AM
Our administration isn't any better, our so called leaders tell us what we should be doing then do the complete opposite themselves...

I had no wish to give greedy bankers my hard earned money through Tax just to keep them in their mansions and sports cars...

I lost my hoime through this governments mishandling of the banks and the economy, yet they up until recently could afford to keep more than 1 home on expenses...paid for by me..

People say well it is the peoples fault for voting them in, but every political party is the same when they get into power...

The old saying.. Power Currupts, and absolute power currupts absolutely...
But how else are retired politicians going to get their bank directorships?:mad:

Rich
12-23-2009, 06:34 AM
Oh, I dunno, I thought Kinger hit the nail right on the head.
That's because you're a Texan and thus Republican:p

Kryst51
12-23-2009, 06:38 AM
That's because you're a Texan and thus Republican:p

It does seem to be a true statement. :D although i work with some democrats.

Thales750
12-23-2009, 06:39 AM
Oh, I dunno, I thought Kinger hit the nail right on the head.
That's becuase you get your information from a media paid for by the largest institutions.

Rich
12-23-2009, 06:41 AM
Jealousy; how do you think it would feel to know, that for the rest of your life, all you had to look forward to was living on a dreary little island.
Cheer up Col, global warming might make mother England into a tropical paradise. Then who would be laughing last? hehehe.
We were promised tropical weather when we had two dry years on the trot back in the seventies, guess what, it hasn't stopped pissing down since then:rolleyes:

georgedwilkinson
12-23-2009, 06:48 AM
That's becuase you get your information from a media paid for by the largest institutions.

Ummmm...wouldn't that be all media? I noticed they all take advertisements from very large companies. Or were you referring to the Houston Chronicle? That publication has the most liberal Editorial page I've ever seen (I've been fortunate to NOT have to read any of the northern rags).

Rabbie
12-23-2009, 07:29 AM
We were promised tropical weather when we had two dry years on the trot back in the seventies, guess what, it hasn't stopped pissing down since then:rolleyes:
Rich, I've told you a million times not to exaggerate:D

wiklendt
12-23-2009, 01:31 PM
But how else are retired politicians going to get their bank directorships?:mad:

why, from multi-billion dollar government bailouts so they can get their big multi-billion dollar bonuses for single-handedly f*ing the world ecomony and leaving all the workers and loanees (world-wide) on their a r s e s - THAT's not a media spin, american banks did that all on their own.

on the flip side, here in australia we survived because our previous prime minister (john howard) was a scrooge and put all the people's taxes into federal coffers... so while we avoided recession, because we had surplus to throw at the economy at the crucial time, we also now have no infrastructure, and not enough housing, of many other things, because no money was spent on them for the 12 years he was in office.

...and state-run hospitals and schools are suffering too mainly b/c of the syndey 2000 olympics, the state premier at the time decided it would be a fabulous idea to fund the olympic games with the state's infrastructure, transport, education and health funds instead of putting those funds into, well, infrastructure, transport, education and health! and each of his successors has had to be mopping up the mess - a thankless job, and a job they're really struggling with (b/c it's so hard and because the party is just not really been doing a good job)

so not only is america screwed up, ours is pretty dodgy too - like was previously said - power begets corruption- i'm sure it's an international phenomena.

we're all hoping our current prime minister, kevin rudd, will straighten a few things out in the federal level though we are all still weary and jumpy...

our local federal representative (belinda neal - yes, she's had a few run-ins with the media, but most of it is just spin and ratings-pushers) is doing a really good job of keeping up with the electoral promises, and making noticeable improvements (even the local newspapers report successes - which is rare!): so there is hope.

we in australia (at least all the people i know personally) were very glad when bush jnr was voted out and obama voted in - we're a little weary of what his aims are, but still prefer him. is the sentiment not the same in america?

Fifty2One
12-23-2009, 01:46 PM
Canada did not relax their banking laws as much as the rest of the globe did while the pigs were getting fat so we are also in better shape then most. A lot of the American companies which operate in Canada had to reorganize a bit though which is a hardship on some people.
We are generally glad to see Mr.Bush doing other things but unfortunately he keeps showing up here to talk at the Canadian Club - I would rather hear Conrad Black speak on a day pass thank you very much... Mr.Obama seems to be generally good for his country and not so bad to their neighbours to the immediate north.

why, from multi-billion dollar government bailouts so they can get their big multi-billion dollar bonuses for single-handedly f*ing the world ecomony and leaving all the workers and loanees (world-wide) on their a r s e s - THAT's not a media spin, american banks did that all on their own.

on the flip side, here in australia we survived because our previous prime minister (john howard) was a scrooge and put all the people's taxes into federal coffers... so while we avoided recession, because we had surplus to throw at the economy at the crucial time, we also now have no infrastructure, and not enough housing, of many other things, because no money was spent on them for the 12 years he was in office.

...and state-run hospitals and schools are suffering too mainly b/c of the syndey 2000 olympics, the state premier at the time decided it would be a fabulous idea to fund the olympic games with the state's infrastructure, transport, education and health funds instead of putting those funds into, well, infrastructure, transport, education and health! and each of his successors has had to be mopping up the mess - a thankless job, and a job they're really struggling with (b/c it's so hard and because the party is just not really been doing a good job)

so not only is america screwed up, ours is pretty dodgy too - like was previously said - power begets corruption- i'm sure it's an international phenomena.

we're all hoping our current prime minister, kevind rudd, will straighten a few things out in the federal level though we are all still weary and jumpy...

our local federal representative (belinda neal - yes, she's had a few run-ins with the media, but most of it is just spin and ratings-pushers) is doing a really good job of keeping up with the electoral promises, and making noticeable improvements (even the local newspapers report successes - which is rare!): so there is hope.

we in australia (at least all the people i know personally) were very glad when bush jnr was voted out and obama voted in - we're a little weary of what his aims are, but still prefer him. is the sentiment not the same in america?

Thales750
12-23-2009, 06:28 PM
why, from multi-billion dollar government ....

Do they not use capital letters in Australia?

ColinEssex
12-24-2009, 12:21 AM
Do they not use capital letters in Australia?

I lived and worked there for 3 years. Correct grammar and spelling were non-existent.

The men cared more for beer, and the women were the same. The only difference between them is the women can spit farther.

There's no class in Australia - Americans would get on well there.

Col

dan-cat
12-24-2009, 04:15 AM
Two very poor responses (134,135) to a very informative post (132).

Thales750
12-24-2009, 04:16 AM
I lived and worked there for 3 years. Correct grammar and spelling were non-existent.

The men cared more for beer, and the women were the same. The only difference between them is the women can spit farther.

There's no class in Australia - Americans would get on well there.

Col

Col,
I would love nothing more than wasting an entire morning in the fruitless endeavor of enlightening you; however I am flying in to Houston today to visit my folks.

Merry Christmas you old Bastard. Try to be in a good mood next year, would you?

Thales750
12-24-2009, 04:59 AM
Two very poor responses (134,135) to a very informative post (132).

A little off subject I agree; however (and this is a subject for an entire thread) writers owe their readers the respect of using proper English.

I have to labor through my spelling problems, by pasting everything I write from MS word. I then reread it to try to catch all of the grammatical errors.

I do that because I have the discipline to create complete works, not half thought out deliveries.

So I guess maybe my response was not quite so poor as all that.

Would you prefer to purchase a car with a bad paint job and a good engine, or would you choose one with a good paint job as well?

There are many faces of mental laziness.

Brianwarnock
12-24-2009, 05:54 AM
A little off subject I agree; however (and this is a subject for an entire thread) writers owe their readers the respect of using proper English.

There are many faces of mental laziness.

Oh how so much I agree, there is far too many spelling errors and worse the use of incorrect words, such as there for their or vice versa, people don't seem to care, no I'm not talking about the odd typo.

Brian

Alc
12-24-2009, 05:58 AM
Oh how so much I agree, there is far too many spelling errors and worse the use of incorrect words, such as there for their or vice versa, people don't seem to care, no I'm not talking about the odd typo.

Brian
"there is far too many spelling errors and worse the use of incorrect words"
Oh, the irony :D

Thales750
12-24-2009, 06:20 AM
"there is far too many spelling errors and worse the use of incorrect words"
Oh, the irony :D

My point is to attempt to write as well as possible. That is the act that shows respect.

Alc
12-24-2009, 06:21 AM
My point is to attempt to write as well as possible. That is the act that shows respect.
That's nice, but I was responding to Brian's post.

Fifty2One
12-24-2009, 06:55 AM
There are people who do appreciate how difficult it is to properly communicate respectfully to others. I also have more challenges then others but I do my best just as you do.

My point is to attempt to write as well as possible. That is the act that shows respect.

Brianwarnock
12-24-2009, 07:52 AM
"there is far too many spelling errors and worse the use of incorrect words"
Oh, the irony :D

Hoist by my own petard


That is what happens if you change your mind whilst writing and don't go back and reread, I'd like to say I did it deliberately, but nope.

Brian

Alc
12-24-2009, 07:57 AM
Hoist by my own petard


That is what happens if you change your mind whilst writing and don't go back and reread, I'd like to say I did it deliberately, but nope.

Brian
It takes a big man to admit his error and, in the spirit of the season, I shall let this one slide. ;)

Rich
12-24-2009, 09:30 AM
It takes a big man to admit his error and, in the spirit of the season, I shall let this one slide. ;)
It should include free drinks all round as well:mad::p

ColinEssex
12-24-2009, 01:25 PM
It must be very difficult for the Northern English, Canadians and Americans to be grammatically correct, and also in spelling.

I realise correct English is not their first language.

Col

wiklendt
12-24-2009, 06:49 PM
It must be very difficult for the Northern English, Canadians and Americans to be grammatically correct, and also in spelling.

I realise correct English is not their first language.

Col

i meant no disrespect. in fact, you may notice that my spelling and grammar (other than the capitals thing) is quite astute in general - even vocabulary.

i only use all lower-case in forums and other informal arenas. i use capitals in formal and written (paper/letter/etc) situations, and of course, my spoken english is capitalised ;)

and english is, in fact, my third language. my english is much, much better than most other's english that i see not only on the forums but in day-to-day dealings.

i think spelling and grammar is much more important than some silly capitalisations. if you look at different languages around the world, many of them capitalise in very different situations. it was upon this realisation that i stopped capitalising - i see it as much more 'international'.

and no, i have not gone back and to re-read my post - it's christmas day and i'm chillin' with my girl before a big christmas dinner at the in-laws ;)

take it easy, man.

hope you all have a nice day.

georgedwilkinson
12-24-2009, 07:02 PM
my english is much, much better than most other's english that i see not only on the forums but in day-to-day dealings.


I agree. Her English is much better than many of the grammar Nazis on this site. Before you berate her, go back and check all of your own spelling and grammar...many of you got it wrong at least once per thread.

Or just get over it. Your choice.

wiklendt
12-24-2009, 07:02 PM
I lived and worked there for 3 years. Correct grammar and spelling were non-existent.

The men cared more for beer, and the women were the same. The only difference between them is the women can spit farther.

There's no class in Australia - Americans would get on well there.

Col

that just depends on who you socialise with. as for class, you seem to have precious little of that yourself.

but hey, at least you use capitals, right? the world is safe again!

ColinEssex
12-24-2009, 11:06 PM
...many of you got it wrong at least once per thread.


Should be "many of you have got it wrong. . . . . "

Also, there is no excuse for being slovenly when writing, it is an excellent opportunity for many to learn English by reading the posts of other people.
It is totally wrong to deliberately use grammar and punctuation incorrectly.
It gives a message that the poster could conduct their life in a similar lazy and don't-care manner.
What's next? Posts written in textspeak? No thank you.

Or, for example - how many people here dress for dinner every night? Not many I'll bet. I do, things should be done properly.

However, I do understand Wiklendt is under a major disadvantage being in Australia, never have I come across such a slovenly populace.

Col

georgedwilkinson
12-24-2009, 11:27 PM
Thanks for the "correction". Now, did you go back and check all your posts? Don't make me have to do it for you because I know I've seen many slovenly examples of poor grammar and/or spelling in your writings. Not that it matters that much.

ColinEssex
12-25-2009, 03:57 AM
Thanks for the "correction". Now, did you go back and check all your posts? Don't make me have to do it for you because I know I've seen many slovenly examples of poor grammar and/or spelling in your writings. Not that it matters that much.

I admit I do make errors on the odd occasion. I never said I was perfect. (I'm not American)

However, I do at least try to get things right instead of deliberately destroying the English language like some here who can't be bothered.

Col

speakers_86
12-25-2009, 07:48 AM
I lived and worked there for 3 years. Correct grammar and spelling were non-existent.

The men cared more for beer, and the women were the same. The only difference between them is the women can spit farther.

There's no class in Australia - Americans would get on well there.

Col

Sounds like a good time. Maybe on my next vacation I can visit Sydney!


[qoute]
Ok, I'll tell you. Everytime we turn on the news we see America going on about something or other. It reckons it is the ruler of the world, it dictates to everyone else what they should or shouldn't do.

I just wish America would just shut up and let people get on with their lives.

All America seems to achieve is to make matters worse or end up killing thousands of innocent people. I really don't know why the USA thinks it is so great.

Col
[/quote]

Thanks for the straight response. There have definitely been some things that our politicians didn't handle well. I took a class on Africa in college and cringed at most of the things that we did to "help" Africa. Not to mention other things like the Bay of Pigs, Operation Eagle Claw, and I suppose I might as well through in our current economic crises.

wiklendt
12-25-2009, 06:40 PM
Or, for example - how many people here dress for dinner every night? Not many I'll bet. I do, things should be done properly.


uh-ha. i bet doing things 'properly' in your household includes you being the bread-winner, while your wife stays at home looking after the children she bore for you and starches your shirts and then only makes conversation at the table if permitted and obeying your commands...

that is, if conversation is even allowed at the table.

...classy.


However, I do understand Wiklendt is under a major disadvantage being in Australia, never have I come across such a slovenly populace.

yeah, i often think "poor me" and "why me - why!? why!!!? oh why am i slovenly derelict whose only skill is distance-spitting!?? why hast thou forsaken me, Lord!!!!!!!??"

better stop before i break a nail, huh?

wiklendt
12-25-2009, 06:59 PM
However, I do at least try to get things right instead of deliberately destroying the English language like some here who can't be bothered.


I do understand Wiklendt is under a major disadvantage being in Australia

you want to talk about respect and deliberately doing things wrong? how about stating by using my username correctly. it's registered as "wiklendt", not "Wiklendt".

respect begets respect. you need to give a little to get a little.

ColinEssex
12-26-2009, 12:52 AM
uh-ha. i bet doing things 'properly' in your household includes you being the bread-winner,

Neither of us work, we don't need to.

while your wife stays at home looking after the children she bore for you

We have no children, we can't stand the little brats.

and starches your shirts

That's why we employ a housekeeper. Anyway, who starches shirts these days, our housekeeper only does the washing and ironing as far as clothing is concerned.

and then only makes conversation at the table if permitted and obeying your commands...

Conversation is allowed, but not with a mouthful of food.

yeah, i often think "poor me" and "why me - why!? why!!!? oh why am i slovenly derelict whose only skill is distance-spitting!?? why hast thou forsaken me, Lord!!!!!!!??"

Your lord hasn't forsaken you, that's just the way Aussie sheila's are. It's quite normal for you. One day culture will sweep across Australia and you will then be allowed to join the rest of the civilised nations.

better stop before i break a nail, huh?

You actually manicure your nails?

ColinEssex
12-26-2009, 12:58 AM
you want to talk about respect and deliberately doing things wrong? how about stating by using my username correctly. it's registered as "wiklendt", not "Wiklendt".

It is correct grammar to use a capital letter for a name.

respect begets respect. you need to give a little to get a little.

That's what I am trying to teach you, at last something seems to have got through into your pretty little head.
That's enough for today, we'll continue tomorrow perhaps when you haven't got shopping on your brain.I won't keep you now, it's the 26th December, so it's a big sales shopping day for you - imagine all those shoes and bags you can get at reduced prices.

Col

Vassago
12-26-2009, 05:10 AM
It must be very difficult for the Northern English, Canadians and Americans to be grammatically correct, and also in spelling.

I realise correct English is not their first language.

Col

Shouldn't that be "realize," or is that another word you will claim was destroyed by other countries?

Rich
12-26-2009, 07:59 AM
Shouldn't that be "realize,"
The spelling is correct for this country, you I'm afraid have been taught the bastardised American version:mad::p

Fifty2One
12-26-2009, 09:54 AM
megalomania meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a (měg'ə-lō-mā'nē-ə, -mān'yə)
n.
1. A psychopathological condition in which delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence predominate.

2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.

ColinEssex
12-26-2009, 01:30 PM
megalomania meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a (měg'ə-lō-mā'nē-ə, -mān'yə)
n.
1. A psychopathological condition in which delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence predominate.

2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.

Are you referring to the USA? You're spot on there matey.

Col

wiklendt
12-26-2009, 03:39 PM
It is correct grammar to use a capital letter for a name.


i thought it was proper to use the name someone has given themselves. you seem to enjoy standing on ceremony but also seem to have double-standards and engage in hypocrisy. that is you pick and choose when and to whom to show respect.

you've shown absolutely no respect to anyone, except your own precious anus, in this thread and ought to be ashamed of yourself.

That's what I am trying to teach you, at last something seems to have got through into your pretty little head.

all you've taught me is that you're a condescending prat. it makes me feel better to know you're far, far, far, far away from me. it also saddens me that you think you're the only one who knows how to do anything "properly".

you seem to me to be someone who makes no effort for anyone's sake and enjoys provoking, belittling and using out-of-line personal attacks. you're a joke of a human being.

if you were to crawl out from under your rock you'd see the world has moved on from the 16th century patronising attitude that you still seem to adopt.

are you a git to everyone, or just women? i am over-joyed to learn you have no children. they'd be pretty screwed up.

wiklendt
12-26-2009, 03:44 PM
Are you referring to the USA? You're spot on there matey.

Col

he was referring to You, you egotistical sh*t.

wiklendt
12-26-2009, 03:46 PM
and now i am calm.

i am disconnecting from this discussion - before i have a cardiac arrest at the mind-bogglingly selfish attitudes and incosiderate nature displayed by ColinEssex.

Rich
12-26-2009, 05:25 PM
Should be "many of you have got it wrong. . . . . "

Col
Surely it should be "many of you have gotten it wrong"

Rich
12-26-2009, 05:32 PM
why hast thou forsaken me, Lord!!!!!!!??"


Because you were raised as a catholic?:D

wiklendt
12-26-2009, 06:29 PM
Surely it should be "many of you have gotten it wrong"

actually, both are grammatically correct depending on where you are. in terms of using "get" as a verb ('to get'):


past participle (chiefly British) got, (North American or British archaic) gottenin australia we'd use "got" rather than "gotten" - australia officially uses british english, and when i was in school there was a big reform to revert the british spelling of gaol (from the american jail). there were probably other words also, but this one stuck out for me because of the vastly different spelling of the two.

edit: however, "got" itself is informal, and should be avoided in formal language. e.g., "they've got to leave" ought to be "they must leave"...

ColinEssex
12-27-2009, 01:12 AM
you seem to enjoy standing on ceremony but also seem to have double-standards and engage in hypocrisy.
you've shown absolutely no respect to anyone, except your own precious anus, in this thread and ought to be ashamed of yourself.

all you've taught me is that you're a condescending prat.
you seem to me to be someone who makes no effort for anyone's sake and enjoys provoking, belittling and using out-of-line personal attacks. you're a joke of a human being.

if you were to crawl out from under your rock you'd see the world has moved on from the 16th century patronising attitude that you still seem to adopt.

are you a git to everyone, or just women? i am over-joyed to learn you have no children. they'd be pretty screwed up.

Oh dear, must be that time of the month.

Col

Rich
12-27-2009, 04:54 AM
actually, both are grammatically correct depending on where you are. in terms of using "get" as a verb ('to get'):

in australia we'd use "got" rather than "gotten" - australia officially uses british english, and when i was in school there was a big reform to revert the british spelling of gaol (from the american jail). there were probably other words also, but this one stuck out for me because of the vastly different spelling of the two.
.
I told my mother I'd gotten it right and she was sending me to an archaic school, would she listen to me:mad::D

Rich
12-27-2009, 04:57 AM
how about stating by using my username correctly. it's registered as "wiklendt", not "Wiklendt".

It's such an unusual name one just has to ask of its origins:confused:

Rabbie
12-27-2009, 08:36 AM
It is correct grammar to use a capital letter for a name.

ColNot always. There are some old english name which start with ff rather than a capital F so it is only polite to spell and pronounce names as the person would want.

Fifty2One
12-27-2009, 03:48 PM
It is a mental defect, he can not help being an asshole and is out to prove how much of an ass he is to anyone who will answer any of his posts. And he has his only friend to back him up. Very few people find any of their banter intelligent, however, it is often rather amusing in a sad and pathetic way.

i thought it was proper to use the name someone has given themselves. you seem to enjoy standing on ceremony but also seem to have double-standards and engage in hypocrisy. that is you pick and choose when and to whom to show respect.

you've shown absolutely no respect to anyone, except your own precious anus, in this thread and ought to be ashamed of yourself.

all you've taught me is that you're a condescending prat. it makes me feel better to know you're far, far, far, far away from me. it also saddens me that you think you're the only one who knows how to do anything "properly".

you seem to me to be someone who makes no effort for anyone's sake and enjoys provoking, belittling and using out-of-line personal attacks. you're a joke of a human being.

if you were to crawl out from under your rock you'd see the world has moved on from the 16th century patronising attitude that you still seem to adopt.

are you a git to everyone, or just women? i am over-joyed to learn you have no children. they'd be pretty screwed up.

scott-atkinson
12-29-2009, 02:38 AM
Hey, If you don't like Colin's posts then don't read em...

He is entitled to his opinion, after all that is what Freedom of Speech is all about, or have I got that wrong ?

Fifty2One
12-29-2009, 05:25 AM
Any you do not have to read or reply to mine either, or is this freedom just a British thing?

Hey, If you don't like Colin's posts then don't read em...

He is entitled to his opinion, after all that is what Freedom of Speech is all about, or have I got that wrong ?

Brianwarnock
12-29-2009, 05:50 AM
Any you do not have to read or reply to mine either, or is this freedom just a British thing?

Why do some people have to bring nationality into everything?
Scott did not say or imply that he did not like your posts, just pointed out that if you do not like somebody's posts don't read them. I would suggest that atleast you don't respond, I have read but not responded to any the posts that I consider rubbish in this thread.

Brian

scott-atkinson
12-29-2009, 07:00 AM
Any you do not have to read or reply to mine either, or is this freedom just a British thing?

You of course made the assumption that I was referring to you... Paranoid or what :D

Fifty2One
12-29-2009, 07:03 AM
You are correct and I should perhaps try to reword my post so that it does not insult the British people as a whole. I will in future direct things at those Brits who are holes.
If everyone avoided responding to all of the rubbish posts then all of these threads would have stayed on topic. Many of us enjoy replying to some posts for the shear entertainment factor of hearing from those with their delusions of adequacy. Otherwise they would have left by now, or posted less frequently and started posting elsewhere. They have posted that they would do that many times, but in spite of the irony of their signature they have not delivered on the promis.

Why do some people have to bring nationality into everything?
Scott did not say or imply that he did not like your posts, just pointed out that if you do not like somebody's posts don't read them. I would suggest that atleast you don't respond, I have read but not responded to any the posts that I consider rubbish in this thread.

Brian

scott-atkinson
12-29-2009, 07:04 AM
I think this thread has lost it's course somewhere, and unfortunately like most threads in this section ends up in Hostile (Across the Pond) Ping Pong .....

Does anybody know if any of Nostrodamuses predictions have not come true, and if so what ones, or what future ones we should look out for?

Fifty2One
12-29-2009, 07:06 AM
And you of course made the assumption that I was referring to you...

There is no end to the world as such a squallor predicted in our beliefs as in many other cultures. On the seventh time you enter the spirit world you have learned all about this world and you continue in the spirit world. Obviously this world eventually runs out of spirits.

You of course made the assumption that I was referring to you... Paranoid or what :D

Rich
12-29-2009, 07:19 AM
And you of course made the assumption that I was referring to you...

There is no end to the world as such a squallor predicted in our beliefs as in many other cultures. On the seventh time you enter the spirit world you have learned all about this world and you continue in the spirit world. Obviously this world eventually runs out of spirits.
Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that YOU quoted Scotts' post in the first place

scott-atkinson
12-29-2009, 07:22 AM
And you of course made the assumption that I was referring to you...

There is no end to the world as such a squallor predicted in our beliefs as in many other cultures. On the seventh time you enter the spirit world you have learned all about this world and you continue in the spirit world. Obviously this world eventually runs out of spirits.

Unless you randomly quote people and then talk about someone else than I would say that my assumption was correct...

Vassago
12-29-2009, 10:44 AM
It's really a shame that a thread about Mayan culture can turn into a political and then abusive thread. Way to show some class guys!