I'm hoping the next generation comes with 3G, USB and SD ports. I'm not a "pure" apple user so I'm not about to buy a bunch of Apple products just so I can "beam" info form one device to another.

I'm hoping the next generation comes with 3G, USB and SD ports. I'm not a "pure" apple user so I'm not about to buy a bunch of Apple products just so I can "beam" info form one device to another.

I have one and I think it's pretty cool. I don't think it's supposed to replace a laptop. It does a few things really well - Net, email, ebooks, movies, podcast, some games, etc. All of these wrapped up in a portable and intuitive device. The best way I've heard it described is they're better suited fo content consumption and not so much for content creation...

My only complaint so far is lack of flash support :(

My only complaint so far is lack of flash support :(

Steven Jobs don't like Flash so it will prolly never get flash support. going to have to wait for html 5 for that.

I would rather have a netbook or a laptop... Why would I want to carry around this thing that can't handle the same load or features that costs twice as much?

Why would I want to carry around this thing that can't handle the same load or features that costs twice as much?

Status? Money to burn? I give up, why? :D

Status? Money to burn? I give up, why? :D

Probably for the same reason I want alienware.... I like the color....:p

I hear there is a mini ipad coming out soon with a voice application included



http://ingenius.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/iphone.jpg

HA, ...... I so wish some of my friends were participating in this thread, that would make them get all riled up (huge apple supporter...) Thanks for that.

I hear there is a mini ipad coming out soon with a voice application included



http://ingenius.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/iphone.jpg

I rather enjoy this graphic...

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/022010/ipad_vs_notebook.jpg

and this one...

http://iphonehelp.in/content/uploads/2010/01/apple-ipad-vs-maxipad.jpg

ipad sucks for PC users - probably yes
Ipad sucks - probably not

Its great for people that just want to turn on and tune out.

that means
Quick boot up
While sitting on a comfy sofa infront of the telly.
And being super easy to use...

A lot of people previously not using the internet will probably use it more.

Database designers would be advised to take what lessons they can from this!!

ipad sucks for PC users - probably yes
Ipad sucks - probably not

Its great for people that just want to turn on and tune out.

that means
Quick boot up
While sitting on a comfy sofa infront of the telly.
And being super easy to use...

A lot of people previously not using the internet will probably use it more.

Database designers would be advised to take what lessons they can from this!!

Some people just like to get on the bash Apple or bash PC bandwagon. Screw the bandwagon, trying using one for a while then post a real review. And ditto on the db designer - best comment I've read here on the forum in a while :)

Some people just like to get on the bash Apple or bash PC bandwagon. Screw the bandwagon, trying using one for a while then post a real review. And ditto on the db designer - best comment I've read here on the forum in a while :)


I am not apple or PC aligned, I thought the jokes were hilarious, and if I could afford one, I would probably get one (the Ipad that is).

I have used one. I was annoyed rather quickly that I couldn't do two things at once. I mean, come on!

I have used one. I was annoyed rather quickly that I couldn't do two things at once. I mean, come on!

That's the problem with you young whipper-snapppers, you try to take life too fast.... :p

That's the problem with you young whipper-snapppers, you try to take life too fast.... :p

Ha! You forget, by the power of deduction in your introduction thread, it wasn't hard to deduce an estimated age for you. ;)

Ha! You forget, by the power of deduction in your introduction thread, it wasn't hard to deduce an estimated age for you. ;)

One can but try....:D

One can but try....:D

Oh, go back to Blaster Master. :D

I remember a remake for the Playstation. It wasn't nearly as fun.

The Ipad would be much nicer if there was more homebrew development on it. If Apple would allow everyone to develop applications for it without "approval", it could go a lot further. Emulators anyone?

Homebrew development = viruses, etc. aka pc. One pc of junk per desktop is plenty :p

Homebrew development = viruses, etc. aka pc. One pc of junk per desktop is plenty :p

Homebrew development = less money for apple

Whats the point of the ipad? It's a big iphone without voice comms.

Homebrew development = less money for apple

yada, yada, Apple bash bandwagon, yawn.....:p

yada, yada, Apple bash bandwagon, yawn.....:p

Typical mac fanboi, accuse anyone not worshipping at the altar of Jobs of being an apple basher.

Seriously though what is the point of the ipad?

I think I bought it more out of curiosty than anything else and I rarely spend money on toys :(

My Review - Don't expect it to replace a laptop. The apps that they do have do not have many features which translate into short learning curve but most of what they do have is very good. Somebody else said it is better for content consumption and not very good for creating anything...

Pros (to date): No boot time. Click and it's on. Which translates to a pretty good internet experience, for me anyway, and excellent ibooks, itunes w/podcasts, intunes university, etc. All of this is real quick, easy intuitive, yada yada.... Some cool games but probably not for hard core gammers. Best so far is I come home from work pick it up off of the kitchen table and in 2 or three clicks I'm in my easy chair deleteing yahoo spam and Bashing Bob here on the forum... (just kiddin :) ) Oh yeah, and the battery life is real good...

Cons: No file system, etc. Only way to files, etc that I've seen is going through an app... No flash, which I can sort of understand. Hate that you can't really draw on the screen very well which is a result of the screen technology I guess...

I think it's an entirely new type device that just happens to do a few things that you can do on a pc. I'm waiting for an opportunity to see if note taking in meetings, etc is going to be acceptable. And mine is wifi which just happens to ba all I need at work and at home...

Edit: Oh yeah, no multi-tasking. Which is less important if you're not really creating / doing anything :p

I think I bought it more out of curiosty than anything else and I rarely spend money on toys :(

My Review - Don't expect it to replace a laptop. The apps that they do have do not have many features which translate into short learning curve but most of what they do have is very good. Somebody else said it is better for content consumption and not very good for creating anything...

Pros (to date): No boot time. Click and it's on. Which translates to a pretty good internet experience, for me anyway, and excellent ibooks, itunes w/podcasts, intunes university, etc. All of this is real quick, easy intuitive, yada yada.... Some cool games but probably not for hard core gammers. Best so far is I come home from work pick it up off of the kitchen table and in 2 or three clicks I'm in my easy chair deleteing yahoo spam and Bashing Bob here on the forum... (just kiddin :) ) Oh yeah, and the battery life is real good...

Cons: No file system, etc. Only way to files, etc that I've seen is going through an app... No flash, which I can sort of understand. Hate that you can't really draw on the screen very well which is a result of the screen technology I guess...

I think it's an entirely new type device that just happens to do a few things that you can do on a pc. I'm waiting for an opportunity to see if note taking in meetings, etc is going to be acceptable. And mine is wifi which just happens to ba all I need at work and at home...

Edit: Oh yeah, no multi-tasking. Which is less important if you're not really creating / doing anything :p

That's the whole point. I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad product. I'm saying it's not worth the price tag when I can get something with many more features for far less.

That's the whole point. I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad product. I'm saying it's not worth the price tag when I can get something with many more features for far less.

I've noticed a trend here in your posts.... people eventually get back around to your opinion and you are stuck saying "Hey, that's what I said!"

Kryst, that's been my point the entire time. Again, it's clear Bob has no intention of responding to these antics, not matter how far they go. Spreading it to the main parts of the forum only damages the forum.

You must be getting frustrated...:p

I've noticed a trend here in your posts.... people eventually get back around to your opinion and you are stuck saying "Hey, that's what I said!"



You must be getting frustrated...:p

No, but now that you point it out, I may be flattered that you seem to be stalking me... :p :cool:

No, but now that you point it out, I may be flattered that you seem to be stalking me... :p :cool:

Yeah... Me and KenHigg :eek:

Yeah... Me and KenHigg :eek:

Hey, who wouldn't? I mean, I don't know how to put this, but, I'm kind of a big deal... :D :p

Hey, who wouldn't? I mean, I don't know how to put this, but, I'm kind of a big deal... :D :p

You know, funny you say that, because it seemed to me as if other people are getting credit for your ideas.... It's almost as if you are invisible :eek:

You know, funny you say that, because it seemed to me as if other people are getting credit for your ideas.... It's almost as if you are invisible :eek:

That's because I'm a ninja. :cool:

That's because I'm a ninja. :cool:

That IS cool - I didn't know you were a motorcycle :D

http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31979&stc=1&d=1272993495

That IS cool - I didn't know you were a motorcycle :D

http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31979&stc=1&d=1272993495

I'm an upgraded biker version of KITT, complete with LEDs, but my driver is female instead of Hassel the Huff. :D

On another note, this is actually my baby. (not this exact bike, but pretty close.

http://images.autoconx.com/photos/065/750007065_1_b.jpg

Your picture is not showing up Vass

Your picture is not showing up Vass

It is for me. Maybe it's blocked by your network nazis? :p

You're slamming a ipad for being useless when you own one of those? :p

You're slamming a ipad for being useless when you own one of those? :p

I get better gas mileage than what you drive. ;)

I get better gas mileage than what you drive. ;)

Good for you. I hope that comforts you when they pull you out from under an 18 wheeler ;)

Good for you. I hope that comforts you when they pull you out from under an 18 wheeler ;)

I actually pay attention to you box riders expecting each and every one of you to try and run me off the road. It keeps me safe.

A box rider... I heard somebody here at work call us cage riders. So people who drive cars are to blame for most of the scooter accidents?

A box rider... I heard somebody here at work call us cage riders. So people who drive cars are to blame for most of the scooter accidents?

Not at all. I just believe in defensive driving, whether I'm on my bike or driving my car. I've learned to predict what other cars will do and you'd be surprised how right I end up being. You start noticing the little hesitations people make before they are about to make a bad decision, but then make it anyway. I've had plenty of vehicles pull out in front of me because people block out anything smaller than a civic when they are in their daily driving routine. It's all in the rushed lifestyle we live in today.

I'm just going on at you Vass... I have a scooter as well. The thing you have just goes way to fast for an old fart like me :p

I'm just going on at you Vass... I have a scooter as well. The thing you have just goes way to fast for an old fart like me :p

I thought you did, but wasn't sure. No problems.

It is Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month in my state. I know in my city, motorcycle fatalities and accident rates have been dropping pretty nicely the last few years. :)

How do you have a serious Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month and no helmet law?

Whereas motorcyclists have been dropping here in Oregon at a high rate recently. :eek:

I still would like to get another one. My last one died on me and I couldn't afford to get it fixed. Here's a pic of my last one:

http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32007&stc=1&d=1273084857

I had a GS550. It was gold on black as well ... :) 1977'ish something???

I had a GS550. It was gold on black as well ... :) 1977'ish something???

Yeah, I think so. Can't remember as it was 8 years ago when I had to give it up.

How do you have a serious Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month and no helmet law?

I always wear mine, so I can't comment.

I don't intend to get the future's most expensive paper weight, least at that price you can get a decent camera plus a lens

whereas you can't even take pictures with that!

I rather enjoy this graphic...

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/022010/ipad_vs_notebook.jpg

and this one...

http://iphonehelp.in/content/uploads/2010/01/apple-ipad-vs-maxipad.jpg

Loved these pictures. I'm not an iSheep either, and don't understand the draw for these things. And couldn't they call it something besides iPad? I mean, come on! Steve Jobs could probably wrap a turd in a box and people would buy it for $500. :D

The funny thing is, I'm not really anti-Apple. I just hate the way they try to control everything--even what you do with your own device which you've paid money for. Oh well.

I agree. I'm not anti-Apple, but I'm annoyed at the company for what they are trying to charge for some of these products that lack features that are basic in cheaper products. That and they have been going sue happy with companies over having similar ideas. News flash Apple, you can't copyright ideas, only designs!

I love the one we have - Small, very portable, very long battery life. Very stable os, no worry about bugs or viruses. I personally use it to read news papers, magazines and ebooks. Pick it up and it's on with no boot up wait. And I have taken it to work and on business trips to for note taking and sketching ideas. I think it's a fundamental shift in the way we'll experience technology for work and pleasure they way cell phones and internet changed things. And I'm glad to do my part to shift things away from the schizophrenic windows platform. Everytime we boot the pc it seems you never know if you'll get past the boot up, the virus checkers, etc. etc, etc. I sometimes avoid the net all together just to avoid those headaches... Kudos again to Jobs. :)

Wow, I haven't had a Windows boot problem in ages. And Windows 7 is pretty cool, although I don't have it yet but I've played with it on my mother-in-law's new PC that she bought. Basically, it all boils down to the fact that, if you are knowledgeable and careful about the sites you visit on the internet and you take care of your PC, you shouldn't have any problems. If you aren't careful and don't know how to take care of your PC, you'll end up having problems no matter what platform you're on.

If you are happy about paying more money for what is basically a lesser machine with a touch screen and a glossy UI, then more power to you. It's your money. :) In my opinion, it's not a serious computing tool. It's just a toy. But that's just my opinion. ;)

It's not just your opinion lol.

As far as boot up times or boot up issues, my laptop hasn't let me down. I can put it in sleep mode and boot it back up in seconds. I can also run multiple things at once on it without running into problems (audio player, dvd burner, and surfing the net at the same time). Let's see you do that with your IPad...

And not everyone with a laptop has Windows. I dual boot Linux too. :D

I've tinkered with Linux in the past and liked it, but right now the only computing device I have at home that's mine is my XP netbook. Also very portable and easy to use, I love it.

I also have my work laptop at home running Windows XP, but obviously I can't tinker around with that one and change operating systems. I'm hoping I can get another PC sometime soon running Windows 7, but I would love to have another PC or laptop that I could run Linux, probably Ubuntu, or else just have one that I dual boot. Haven't decided yet. My phone is an Android phone, by the way. :D

I've tinkered with Linux in the past and liked it, but right now the only computing device I have at home that's mine is my XP netbook. Also very portable and easy to use, I love it.

I also have my work laptop at home running Windows XP, but obviously I can't tinker around with that one and change operating systems. I'm hoping I can get another PC sometime soon running Windows 7, but I would love to have another PC or laptop that I could run Linux, probably Ubuntu, or else just have one that I dual boot. Haven't decided yet. My phone is an Android phone, by the way. :D

You'd be surprised at how much faster windows 7 runs on my laptop than even XP ever did. Nothing beats the speed of Linux though, and Ubuntu is a good choice, especially since I'm an HTPC affectionaire. :cool:

I'm running Windows Mobile 7 on my phone and love it. Of course I've been flashing cooked roms onto my phone to get the newer features not offered ont he stock rom. The stock rom still runs 6.5. :mad:

Wow, I haven't had a Windows boot problem in ages. And Windows 7 is pretty cool, although I don't have it yet but I've played with it on my mother-in-law's new PC that she bought. Basically, it all boils down to the fact that, if you are knowledgeable and careful about the sites you visit on the internet and you take care of your PC, you shouldn't have any problems. If you aren't careful and don't know how to take care of your PC, you'll end up having problems no matter what platform you're on.

If you are happy about paying more money for what is basically a lesser machine with a touch screen and a glossy UI, then more power to you. It's your money. :) In my opinion, it's not a serious computing tool. It's just a toy. But that's just my opinion. ;)

I think you're still missing the point. If somebody out there is touting it as a 'Serious computing tool' I've missed it. And I'm not saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, just that it does a handful of things really well IMHO. And when you couple these together it's worth the money. Like the battery life thing. If I want to use my laptop in a remote location to do something simple like getting on the net I have to check and see if there is enough battery life or will I have to plug it in. Usually I don't even want to worry about the battery and just plug it in. That doesn't sound like much until you find yourself constantly saying nah, I don't feel like dragging it all out. Funny how it even get's compared to a laptop...

I think you're still missing the point. If somebody out there is touting it as a 'Serious computing tool' I've missed it. And I'm not saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, just that it does a handful of things really well IMHO. And when you couple these together it's worth the money. Like the battery life thing. If I want to use my laptop in a remote location to do something simple like getting on the net I have to check and see if there is enough battery life or will I have to plug it in. Usually I don't even want to worry about the battery and just plug it in. That doesn't sound like much until you find yourself constantly saying nah, I don't feel like dragging it all out. Funny how it even get's compared to a laptops...

I tend to think of this as more of a "better than a kindle" type deal.... rather than "less than a laptop" type thing.

I think you're still missing the point. If somebody out there is touting it as a 'Serious computing tool' I've missed it. And I'm not saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, just that it does a handful of things really well IMHO. And when you couple these together it's worth the money. Like the battery life thing. If I want to use my laptop in a remote location to do something simple like getting on the net I have to check and see if there is enough battery life or will I have to plug it in. Usually I don't even want to worry about the battery and just plug it in. That doesn't sound like much until you find yourself constantly saying nah, I don't feel like dragging it all out. Funny how it even get's compared to a laptops...

I can do pretty much anything I need to do as you describe, and then some, on my phone even, including more than one thing at once if I desire, without pulling out my laptop or shelling out as much as the ipad costs. ;)

It even has a touchscreen lol.

You'd be surprised at how much faster windows 7 runs on my laptop than even XP ever did. Nothing beats the speed of Linux though, and Ubuntu is a good choice, especially since I'm an HTPC affectionaire. :cool:

I would love to upgrade to Windows 7, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to. It's all about the $$$ right now. I still would like to have an Ubuntu installation, after reading up on the different distros that's the one that really struck a chord with me. The one I played with before was....let's see....Red Hat maybe? It's been a few years and it was for something I was looking at for work. I liked it though. I honestly haven't looked at the HTPC aspect. :)

I'm running Windows Mobile 7 on my phone and love it. Of course I've been flashing cooked roms onto my phone to get the newer features not offered ont he stock rom. The stock rom still runs 6.5. :mad:

My last phone was WM 6.5, and I never had any problems with it, but I was on AT&T and was looking to upgrade as my other phone was 2 years old. They didn't have any WM7 phones yet (in fact, I thought it wasn't "officially" supposed to be released until the end of the year sometime :confused: ) and their only Android offerings were locked down like the iPhone which totally defeats the purpose of an Android phone. So, we made the switch to Verizon and haven't had a dropped call since. :)

I can do pretty much anything I need to do as you describe, and then some, on my phone even, including more than one thing at once if I desire, without pulling out my laptop or shelling out as much as the ipad costs. ;)

It even has a touchscreen lol.

Maybe, but reading a book on it would suck!

I think you're still missing the point. If somebody out there is touting it as a 'Serious computing tool' I've missed it. And I'm not saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, just that it does a handful of things really well IMHO. And when you couple these together it's worth the money. Like the battery life thing. If I want to use my laptop in a remote location to do something simple like getting on the net I have to check and see if there is enough battery life or will I have to plug it in. Usually I don't even want to worry about the battery and just plug it in. That doesn't sound like much until you find yourself constantly saying nah, I don't feel like dragging it all out. Funny how it even get's compared to a laptops...

I don't consider my netbook a laptop by any means. It's much more portable than a laptop. And my battery life is also superb, if I'm hammering away at it all day long I can still go more than a day between charges. With just casual web surfing and other stuff I can go more than a week between charges. And I can still do more with it than the iPad and it costs less. :) Like I said, it's your money. If you're happy with it then that's all that matters.

I can do pretty much anything I need to do as you describe, and then some, on my phone even, including more than one thing at once if I desire, without pulling out my laptop or shelling out as much as the ipad costs. ;)

It even has a touchscreen lol.

So can I! I love my new phone...and it has a touch screen too. ;)

Maybe, but reading a book on it would suck!

I wouldn't want to read a book on the iPad either. That's what the big argument is between the e-readers and the Apple fans, that the iPad is better than a Kindle for reading. I've never used a Kindle, but I can sure see the argument about reading on a device that's backlit, like the iPad or a PC. I would prefer using actual books, but if I had my choice between reading on an iPad, netbook, etc. or something that uses e-ink (or whatever it's called) like the Kindle and other e-readers, I'm betting that the e-readers would cause less eye strain. I don't have time for reading anyway, so for me it's a moot point right now. :)

I don't consider my netbook a laptop by any means. It's much more portable than a laptop. And my battery life is also superb, if I'm hammering away at it all day long I can still go more than a day between charges. With just casual web surfing and other stuff I can go more than a week between charges. And I can still do more with it than the iPad and it costs less. :) Like I said, it's your money. If you're happy with it then that's all that matters.

I'm with you on that one. My netbook will last 8 hours for me and that is with Win7 1Gb RAM, 160 GB hard drive and I have it loaded with software (Office 2010, SQL Server 2008, Visual Studio 2008 and 2010, etc.)

Great for being on the bus and all. I don't think I could handle being able to do only one thing and not multi-task. :)

I'm with you on that one. My netbook will last 8 hours for me and that is with Win7 1Gb RAM, 160 GB hard drive and I have it loaded with software (Office 2010, SQL Server 2008, Visual Studio 2008 and 2010, etc.)

Great for being on the bus and all. I don't think I could handle being able to do only one thing and not multi-task. :)

I don't have SQL Server or Visual Studio on mine (yet) but I do have Office 2007, and in a pinch I have used my netbook to VPN to my office and work off of it. I tend to be a multi-tasker too. :)

I tend to think of this as more of a "better than a kindle" type deal.... rather than "less than a laptop" type thing.

I think that is a better comparsion. A color kindle that you can do the net on and some other simple apps...

I think that is a better comparsion. A color kindle that you can do the net on and some other simple apps...

And if that's how they were advertising it (and pricing it) I probably wouldn't have an argument with it at all. :)

I think that is a better comparsion. A color kindle that you can do the net on and some other simple apps...

Yeah, Although I hear the "nook" by Barnes & Noble is supposed to be pretty good too. Although still just for books, no internet capabilities.

Well, if iPad users are happy with them, then that's all that really matters. It still doesn't change the fact that many of us just can't understand paying $700 for something with so limited capabilities where I could get almost 4 of my netbooks (for what I paid for mine) and have so much more capability. Just doesn't "compute." :D

Yeah, Although I hear the "nook" by Barnes & Noble is supposed to be pretty good too. Although still just for books, no internet capabilities.

A girl at work just bought a nook and it's pretty neat. Amazing how you can have title in hand in minutes and then have it with you anywhere you go. They have a lot of classics for free in the ebook library....

I don't consider my netbook a laptop by any means. It's much more portable than a laptop. And my battery life is also superb, if I'm hammering away at it all day long I can still go more than a day between charges. With just casual web surfing and other stuff I can go more than a week between charges. And I can still do more with it than the iPad and it costs less. :) Like I said, it's your money. If you're happy with it then that's all that matters.

What kind of net book is it? I'm considering one to load SAP on. I'm thinking ssd will work and that it should have longer battery life - ?

What kind of net book is it? I'm considering one to load SAP on. I'm thinking ssd will work and that it should have longer battery life - ?

Sorry it took me so long to reply. Mine is an Asus Eee PC, I believe the model number is 1005HAB. Like this one (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=1218154380370&type=product), except mine is kind of maroon in color. It came with a battery that is a little more juiced up than the basic one also, so I can use it longer. My hubby bought it for me for Christmas and I've been totally happy with it. Hope this answers your questions...

I wonder how you get a juiced up battery, the specs on the link says 3+ hours...?

I wonder how you get a juiced up battery, the specs on the link says 3+ hours...?

You can buy batteries that last longer. ;)

And 3+ hours is with continuous use of the average user. It can be placed into hybernation when not in use, making the battery life much longer.

I like Apples VoiceOver