We had chance years ago to start a Grass Roots movement, a Well Spring of Ideas that could have grown and made changes to the future of mankind.

Yet we chose not to.

I always had hoped for the fruition of that vision, unfortunately small minded individuals continued to prefer petty insults over cooperative thought.

As my software company grows, I am going to invest in BioFuels, methods to remove mercury from ground water, and living methods to purify waste water for use as fertilizer.

I am doing what I always hoped we could do here.

I hope that the folks, whose idea of spending time, is in wasting it insulting other people countries and cultures, will have some sort of epiphany and add their minds to the good of the planet.

I won’t be disappointed if you don’t. It will most likely be your own regret, at your death bed that rules the day.

I like the gist of your post, but a subtle problem occurs here...
unfortunately small minded individuals continue to prefer petty insults
Isn't calling them small minded a petty insult?
In sport a point is commonly scored when the offence beats the defence. In sport you respect their offence, and you correct your defensive errors. Or you can go on an offensive, but then you consent to the game.
Cheers,
Mark

It would seem the entire point of this thread would be to spark another insult war. That does seem to be the main focus.

On another note, congrats on your accomplishments. I have also been looking at ways to give back to the community and the planet. How do you look into investing in these biofuels?

It would seem the entire point of this thread would be to spark another insult war. That does seem to be the main focus.

On another note, congrats on your accomplishments. I have also been looking at ways to give back to the community and the planet. How do you look into investing in these biofuels?

I like the gist of your post, but a subtle problem occurs here...

Isn't calling them small minded a petty insult?
In sport a point is commonly scored when the offence beats the defence. In sport you respect their offence, and you correct your defensive errors. Or you can go on an offensive, but then you consent to the game.
Cheers,
Mark

I apologize for the tone, maybe if I would have reread it more I would have toned it down. But I have been extremely disappointed, and frustrated, over the years as I continued to have my hopes dashed that some very intelligent folks would not change the culture of this potentially great medium.

Software development is among the most intellectually demanding occupations. I guess my expectation were similarly higher. I mean if folks that have higher IQs than is common, can’t put away childish ways, what chance does the world have?

So my anxiety is not about individuals, but at a process that’s seems to be derailed at every turn. It’s understandable that people with greedy self interest would derail progress, yet it is unforgivable that it would occur simply for the fun of it.

Many people over the years have tried to raise the bar of our conversation, only to have them degrade once again to their lowest common denominator.

Yes I am guilty on this thread of saying what I have been feeling for quite some time. I abhor human beings of considerable intelligence working against the betterment of mankind. Even, for that matter, the simple dissemination of knowledge.

Most human beings are motivated by greed. We are competitive and want the best for ourselves and our families. This leads to us paying lip-service to altruistic schemes that will benefit tthe community at large but at the crunch we tend to go for the short term gain rather than a theoretical long term one.

Most human beings are motivated by greed. We are competitive and want the best for ourselves and our families. This leads to us paying lip-service to altruistic schemes that will benefit tthe community at large but at the crunch we tend to go for the short term gain rather than a theoretical long term one.

I’m not sure I can concur as to it being theoretical.

Throughout the history of life on this planet, life has followed a cycle of renewable fuel. So a question occurs then; what is the maximum population that can be sustained based on every one of our needs and all of our production coming from renewable sources?

For if we don’t use our intelligence to achieve this balance, it will be thrust upon us. We must start dedicating real thought and action to solving the problems that face us. This phenomenon is not unfortunately limited to this forum. It has spread to all avenues of our societies. We are simply repeating what the Talking Heads would have us believe.

It’s time to wind up the talk at the grass roots level.

I’m not sure I can concur as to it being theoretical. I don't think I made myself clear. What I meant was that people see the long term as non-definite and out of their control so they prefer the short term benefit to the long term one.
Throughout the history of life on this planet, life has followed a cycle of renewable fuel. So a question occurs then; what is the maximum population that can be sustained based on every one of our needs and all of our production coming from renewable sources?

For if we don’t use our intelligence to achieve this balance, it will be thrust upon us. We must start dedicating real thought and action to solving the problems that face us. This phenomenon is not unfortunately limited to this forum. It has spread to all avenues of our societies. We are simply repeating what the Talking Heads would have us believe.
In the 4.something billion years the planet has been here it's only in the last 250 that we have significantly used the reserves of fossil fuel. The real problem is that in my lifetime the population of the world has just about doubled and shows little sign of slowing down. As this is a planet with finite resources this increase cannot continue indefinitely. I fear that it will take a catastrophe of epic proportions to resolve this.
It’s time to wind up the talk at the grass roots level.
On a lighter note I suspect this has a different meaning in British and American English. In British English to wind up something means to bring it to a close. Please let me know if it means something different in American

On a lighter note I suspect this has a different meaning in British and American English. In British English to wind up something means to bring it to a close. Please let me know if it means something different in American

To me, wind up means the same as you. Maybe it's a language barrier at a different level? :confused:

To me, wind up means the same as you. Maybe it's a language barrier at a different level? :confused:

Maybe I'm just a little slow, I meant, as in a clock, or add more fuel.

I agree normally you "wind up" some where.

I think what you meant to say was " crank up" or similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind-up

A verb meaning to excite. The thread hopes to excite a response as has been noted by others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind-up

A verb meaning to excite. The thread hopes to excite a response as has been noted by others.As I said. "Wind up" has two very different meanings. You can wind a person up to get a response but winding up a meeting or a conversation has the opposite effect.

As I said. "Wind up" has two very different meanings. You can wind a person up to get a response but winding up a meeting or a conversation has the opposite effect.

Without the context - I would have assumed it meant, finish off, rather than excite the talk. Yes.

Well, whichever it is. It's time to do it.