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Steve R.
08-17-2011, 03:27 PM
Evidently the mass media is overlooking Ron Paul as a valid candidate for president. As a result of the Iowas straw pole there has been some push back.

The following Jon Stewart presentation on the Daily Show is absolutely hilarious. Indecision 2012 - Corn Polled Edition - Ron Paul & the Top Tier (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier)

Here is an alternate link to the same video on You-Tube. Ron Paul Mentioned on Daily show: Jon Stewart exposes media censorship of Ron Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUXBz6AGJFM)

There are several other links to similar stories on You-Tube.

Adam Caramon
08-18-2011, 04:04 AM
Evidently the mass media is overlooking Ron Paul as a valid candidate for president. As a result of the Iowas straw pole there has been some push back.


He has been considered a fringe candidate for many years. I agree with some of his positions, but not with others. I saw an interview with him recently on Piers Morgan, quite interesting.

From what I have seen/heard/read, I agree with his views on drugs (about legalizing them). I'm not sure about his thoughts of going back to the gold standard and ending the Fed, sounds like it could cause a lot of anarchy. But, then again, I haven't researched it enough to determine what the possible outcomes could be.

Thales750
08-18-2011, 05:13 AM
He has been considered a fringe candidate for many years. I agree with some of his positions, but not with others. I saw an interview with him recently on Piers Morgan, quite interesting.

From what I have seen/heard/read, I agree with his views on drugs (about legalizing them). I'm not sure about his thoughts of going back to the gold standard and ending the Fed, sounds like it could cause a lot of anarchy. But, then again, I haven't researched it enough to determine what the possible outcomes could be.

There is not enough Gold in the world to support the 65 trillion dollar global product. (see your history). The gold standard is another myth to enrich the richest.

Why would anyone want their currency attached to a commodity? ... Insanity

Steve R.
08-18-2011, 06:46 AM
He has been considered a fringe candidate for many years.Philip K. Dick (He has been considered a fringe candidate for many years.), a Science Fiction writer, wrote numerous books dealing with the nature of reality. What concerns me, is that we "see" the world through the reality presented by the media. So are we being provided by the media with a valid picture of who Ron Paul really is?

In the case of Obama, the media misleadingly presented a glowing image of a fictitious entity. Obama is an empty suite; the Manchurian Candidate realized. Who does he serve?

Perry just announced his candidacy for president. The Post has now published some opinion pieces demonizing him. Ironically, their demonizing campaign may have legs; but that isn't the point. The media needs to present us with an analysis of the "real" Perry so that we can make our own rationale analysis.

Why would anyone want their currency attached to a commodity? ... InsanityA very valid point. It is also an issue that I have yet to resolve.

You correctly note that there is not enough gold to support the worlds assets. However, commodities do serve an economic function. The price of commodities, such as gold and oil are indicator that the value of the dollar changes. So when the price of commodities such as gold and oil "rise", they aren't really rising, the value of the dollar is falling.

One major obvious cause of dollar deflation is our deficit spending. Besides the deficit spending, the debasement of the dollar is being promoted by the Fed. It appears first that they have an inflation target. Not only do they have an inflation target, but Bernanke has flooded the economy with money to prevent deflation. Deflation is a normal economic event, but it is not being allowed. That establishes a one way street for dollar debasement.

Adam Caramon
08-18-2011, 07:02 AM
The gold standard is another myth to enrich the richest.


Interesting. If that is the case, I would assume all Republicans would support it, but it seems to be mostly just a libertarian talking point.


Why would anyone want their currency attached to a commodity? ... Insanity

Again, having not researched this much, the idea I hear is that actual dollars are constantly being devalued as the fed prints more money. If we were on the gold standard, then this could not happen, supposedly.


What concerns me, is that we "see" the world through the reality presented by the media. So are we being provided by the media with a valid picture of who Ron Paul really is?


That all goes to perception. If you see a person say a few words or read a few words attributed to them, and thus make-up your mind that you like or dislike them, then its really our own fault, not the media. I've seen many news programs and read many articles, so I feel I have at least a basic understanding of the issues I agree/disagree with Ron Paul on.


In the case of Obama, the media misleadingly presented a glowing image of a fictitious entity. Obama is an empty suite; the Manchurian Candidate realized. Who does he serve?


This is obviously your opinion, not factual truth. Looking to facts, you can see that President Obama had very high favorable ratings before he took office, and they have since plunged. I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of presidential candidates are looked upon less favorably overtime. That's simply human nature.

Does that vindicate President Obama? Of course not. He has made several decisions which I don't agree with and wish he would not have made. Unfortunately we, as voters, are often presented with a choice of the lesser of two evils. I can honestly say, taking all of President Obama's faults, I would still prefer him over McCain, Caribou Barbie, or virtually any other Republican candidate.


Perry just announced his candidacy for president. The Post has now published some opinion pieces demonizing him. Ironically, their demonizing campaign may have legs; but that isn't the point. The media needs to present us with an analysis of the "real" Perry so that we can make our own rationale analysis.


But there is no "real" Perry. Perry has made a variety of decisions, has had certain life experiences, etc., etc., and those make up who he is today. Each media outlet will seek to highlight those positive or negative issues as suits their own goals. Read several different sources, watch Perry's interviews and TV spots, and then make up your own mind.

Thales750
08-19-2011, 03:56 AM
Interesting. If that is the case, I would assume all Republicans would support it, but it seems to be mostly just a libertarian talking point.

Less government ultimately leads to all of the wealth and influence concentrated at the top. The assault on the middle class is from all sides.

The Tea Party doesn't even realize they are pawns. They just hear stuff that sounds good, and off they go to the races.

Thales750
08-22-2011, 06:24 AM
I heard Michele Bachman's speech.

Wow, Amazing, words cannot describe.

The end of civilization as we know it.

Steve R.
08-22-2011, 06:52 AM
I heard Michele Bachman's speech.Link? Too many hits to wade through.
Bachmann Speech at Ames Straw Poll (http://journalofidiocracy.blogspot.com/2011/08/bachmann-speech-at-ames-straw-poll.html) ????

Thales750
08-22-2011, 06:59 AM
Link? Too many hits to wade through.
Bachmann Speech at Ames Straw Poll (http://journalofidiocracy.blogspot.com/2011/08/bachmann-speech-at-ames-straw-poll.html) ????


I heard it on Cspan Radio yesterday in my car. I was going to a afternoon grill and had to stay in the car till it was over.n

It was in Myrtly Beach SC.

It was like listening to a 1936 Hitler rally.

Steve R.
08-22-2011, 07:49 AM
It was like listening to a 1936 Hitler rally.Won't be long!

Homeland Security taps new partner in terror fight: Wal-Mart (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40552073/ns/us_news-security/t/homeland-security-taps-new-partner-terror-fight-wal-mart/#.TlJ13l2lt2E). Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is quoted as saying "“Homeland security starts with hometown security, and each of us plays a critical role in keeping our country and communities safe,” she said. "This partnership will help millions of shoppers across the nation identify and report indicators of terrorism, crime and other threats to law enforcement authorities.”

Police Say They Can Detain Photographers If Their Photographs Have 'No Apparent Esthetic Value' (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110815/23584515540/police-say-they-can-detain-photographers-if-their-photographs-have-no-apparent-esthetic-value.shtml)

Congressman wants government GPS in cars (http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=106056). According to the article Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore.: "wants to test having a government GPS unit in every car so a tax could be imposed on the miles driven." Of course that means that the location of your car can be tracked for purposes other than taxation.

Ron Paul Quote (http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/395622.Ron_Paul):"Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long."

PS: We passed through Myrtle Beach last month on the way to Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA for a short vacation.

Thales750
08-22-2011, 08:15 AM
I was referring to her views on foreign policy. She sounds like a war monger to me.

Protect Israel at all cost; force Iran to give up nuclear weapons.

Now, these are both worthy policy pursuits. But the way she said it, it sounded more like military first, diplomacy second.

You remember; the old, America go it alone, routine.

Thales750
08-22-2011, 08:24 AM
Won't be long!



Homeland Security taps new partner in terror fight: Wal-Mart (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40552073/ns/us_news-security/t/homeland-security-taps-new-partner-terror-fight-wal-mart/#.TlJ13l2lt2E). Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is quoted as saying "“Homeland security starts with hometown security, and each of us plays a critical role in keeping our country and communities safe,” she said. "This partnership will help millions of shoppers across the nation identify and report indicators of terrorism, crime and other threats to law enforcement authorities.”

Police Say They Can Detain Photographers If Their Photographs Have 'No Apparent Esthetic Value' (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110815/23584515540/police-say-they-can-detain-photographers-if-their-photographs-have-no-apparent-esthetic-value.shtml)

Congressman wants government GPS in cars (http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=106056). According to the article Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore.: "wants to test having a government GPS unit in every car so a tax could be imposed on the miles driven." Of course that means that the location of your car can be tracked for purposes other than taxation.

Ron Paul Quote (http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/395622.Ron_Paul):

PS: We passed through Myrtle Beach last month on the way to Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA for a short vacation.

Having spent time in the intelligence community, I would tell you that before it's over with, the world will stop at nothing to eradicate terrorist.

Unfortunately profiling is not being added to the list of the things we should be doing to identify terrorist.

As far as photography, detain is not the same as arrest.

Plus the last time I looked it is a privilege to drive, not a right.

Maybe if all the terrorist in the world would just start wearing uniforms, we could all go back to allowing our military to protect us.

We can’t have it both ways. We cannot on the one hand say no military action, and on the other say no covert action.

We might as well just hand them the keys.

Steve R.
08-22-2011, 10:02 AM
Forgot this one: As Anonymous threatens BART, stakes rise in feud over cell service cutoff (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2011/0814/As-Anonymous-threatens-BART-stakes-rise-in-feud-over-cell-service-cutoff) Cheryl Sullivan, of the Christian Science Monitor, wrote: "At the heart of the latest feud is whether the threat to public safety stemming from the protests justifies BART’s cutoff of cellphone service to try to disrupt them. It’s a question vexing authorities concerned about use of social media and services such as BlackBerry Messenger to organize “flash mob” crimes or, as in England last week, violent street riots."

Having spent time in the intelligence community, I would tell you that before it's over with, the world will stop at nothing to eradicate terrorist. An unfortunate trend. Hopefully, in the name of security we do not end-up being a police state.

Unfortunately profiling is not being added to the list of the things we should be doing to identify terrorist.Another obvious fact that is the fallout of political correctness run amok.

As far as photography, detain is not the same as arrest.Correct, but it is a form of intimidation and censorship that has a stifling aspect on free speech.

Plus the last time I looked it is a privilege to drive, not a right.Correct, driving is a privilege. Paying at the pump is already a method of collecting taxes based on miles driven. So why would we need something installed that keeps tract of us?

If gasoline tax revenues are declining because people drive less and/or use more efficient fuel vehicles; increase the tax at the pump. For all electric vehicles (and even non-electric) you could require the submission of the odometer reading on a yearly basis through vehicle registration. (To a degree this is already being done in some North Carolina counties through an annual safety inspection.)

Maybe if all the terrorist in the world would just start wearing uniforms, we could all go back to allowing our military to protect us. ... We can’t have it both ways. We cannot on the one hand say no military action, and on the other say no covert action.Correct again. I would favor the use of covert operations for the reasons that we can't exactly occupy every country in the world. We also cannot protect every piece of infrastructure in this country.
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In writing this response it occurred to me that the loss of our civil liberties is not solely attributable to terrorism. It is also attributable to the so-called war against drugs, the claims by corporations that they need to protect their so-called "intellectual property", and the assertion by some governments that they need to squelch free speech in the interests of "public safety".