View Full Version : Does Hacking have victims?
ssteinke 11-17-2005, 10:57 AM My experience with hackers is, they think that Hacking is a victimless crime, usually someone with nothing better to do than sit at home, and prove to themselves how empressive their skills are.
The fruit that hacked this site is just that, a fruit, and would never have courage to show himself from behind the anonymity of cyberspace.
That said, I for one rely on this site for those 'bits and pieces' of programming that I may need from time to time, and as a result, I was wondering if this site downtime, caused by the 'Fruit Hack', has effected anyone?
MrsGorilla 11-17-2005, 11:40 AM Evidently, since the company that Jon hosts the site with only holds one day's worth of backups, all the vast wealth of information that I have come to rely on as well is gone. Hopefully it won't take long to rebuild the "archive". But in the meantime it will take longer to accomplish things, as I/we will have to post and wait for responses rather than having a handy search function. :mad:
Hayley Baxter 11-17-2005, 12:25 PM seems such a shame really, not only have we lost the valuable posts, we have also lost the many good threads in the watercooler. It's really disappointing :(
Hay
seems such a shame really, not only have we lost the valuable posts, we have also lost the many good threads in the watercooler. It's really disappointing :(
Hay
On the bright side, endless pages of bickering have also been wiped away. Perhaps without the ability to revisit earlier grievances and search out at exactly what point we pissed each other off, we can start with a clean slate and restore the 'Cooler to the cheery place of yore. :D ;)
dgoulston 11-18-2005, 12:36 AM i knew a hacker back in college, and he hacked some serious sites, but he never did it becuase he wanted to piss people off, or destroy stuff, he did it for the attention he got from causing chaos, and it seems that is the main thing these small time hackers do it from, just a bit of notice,
i have to say though he was an honarable hacker, because he knocked things out, but allways restored them to there norm afterwards, its just very sad to remove the stored knowledge from this forum, becuase it doesnt really affect anyone to an extreame, becuase even though the stored knowleged is temporly destroyed, it lives within all the members of this forum who have been here for years, and im sure will be for years to come.
I have been a member of this forum for around 4 years now i would guess, and have helped some and been helped by many, so yes there may be a set back here, but it will not stop the helping that this forum provides.
Dal
we can start with a clean slate and restore the 'Cooler to the cheery place of yore. :D ;)
As long as right wing gun ho Bush supporters don't barge in
Oldsoftboss 11-18-2005, 12:52 AM Well, we'll just keep typing "Failure" into google and clicking "I'm feeling lucky"
Len Boorman 11-18-2005, 01:02 AM Frankly hackers totally p*** me off.
What have they achieved really except p******* me off.
Recorded experience that was so useful to so many people has gone, However those that possess the experience are still here and will no doubt pass that on to others when the need arises.
So it is inconvenience for the information searcher and inconvenience for the information poster that has been achieved.
If you, the hacker, are looking in then your total effectiveness has been inconvenience. What a total waste of everybodies time.
You really are a 24 carat plonker
Len
mitchem1 11-18-2005, 04:00 AM As long as right wing gun ho Bush supporters don't barge in
I'm not a right wing gun ho Bush supporter. But your idiotic post above is proof perfect that you don't need people like that to get on one of your tirades. You start the crap all by yourself.
I'm not a right wing gun ho Bush supporter. But your idiotic post above is proof perfect that you don't need people like that to get on one of your tirades. You start the crap all by yourself.
I see the hang 'em high brigade's filling the kangaroo courtroom already. :rolleyes:
Which part's crap by the way?
mitchem1 11-18-2005, 04:36 AM I see the hang 'em high brigade's filling the kangaroo courtroom already. :rolleyes:
Which part's crap by the way?
The way you twist any and all threads into an "it's GW's fault" tirade is crap. Your obsession with George is crap. Pull your head out of your arse, take a deep breath and see if you can go an entire day (or even 30 seconds) without blaming the entire world's problems on Bush. (and again, I'm not right wing. I think George is rather dim. But you've made your point. Give it a rest)
So, it is not just me I guess. I have been trying to get into the site for 2 days with no luck. Finally I tried a google search and was able to pull up a post which then enabled me to find the new posts section.
I cannot see the main forum page nor any of the topic headings such as general, forms, etc. When I click a link like that I get a blank page that says 'done' in the page footer.
I assume this is being fixed or is it just me????
:(
Edit:
I found some more threads and conclude that the hacking has taken out the original structure of the forums so that they no longer work.
I am forming a hacker posse now... anyone wanna saddle up?
The way you twist any and all threads into an "it's GW's fault" tirade is crap. Your obsession with George is crap. Pull your head out of your arse, take a deep breath and see if you can go an entire day (or even 30 seconds) without blaming the entire world's problems on Bush. (and again, I'm not right wing. I think George is rather dim. But you've made your point. Give it a rest)
I responded to a response from another member, how you deal with it is up to you, but if you think that gives you the right to use Bush style justice ala Gitmo style on me, then you're gonna be disappointed.
Oh and you need to read a few more posts of mine before making rash judgements on me, stop acting like the American justice department does since Bush took over :rolleyes:
On the bright side, endless pages of bickering have also been wiped away. Perhaps without the ability to revisit earlier grievances and search out at exactly what point we pissed each other off, we can start with a clean slate and restore the 'Cooler to the cheery place of yore. :D ;)
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As long as right wing gun ho Bush supporters don't barge in
I'm not a right wing gun ho Bush supporter. But your idiotic post above is proof perfect that you don't need people like that to get on one of your tirades. You start the crap all by yourself.
Well that didn't take long did it? :rolleyes:
Vassago 11-18-2005, 08:33 AM Rich, did you forget to change your depends again? :p
Oldsoftboss 11-18-2005, 09:57 AM Rich, did you forget to change your depends again? :p
I think he's trying to make up for lost time and retrieve the lost 10,000 posts :p
Dave
Rich, did you forget to change your depends again? :p
Nah, you know me Vass, I just have to keep up the fight against tyranny, repression and worst of all, lies damn lies and yet more lies :mad: ;)
Nah, you know me Vass, I just have to keep up the fight against tyranny, repression and worst of all, lies damn lies and yet more lies :mad: ;)
*Kraj goes to search the forum for posts where Rich propogated a lie or provided misinformation..... DAMN! Where'd they all go???* ;) :p
JoeSanders 11-18-2005, 01:57 PM I see the hang 'em high brigade's filling the kangaroo courtroom already. :rolleyes:
Which part's crap by the way?
More or less all of it.
This is my first post amazing that I’m already such an expert on spotting BS.
More or less all of it.
This is my first post amazing that I’m already such an expert on spotting BS.
Pitty you've missed all of Bushes then :rolleyes:
*Kraj goes to search the forum for posts where Rich propogated a lie or provided misinformation..... DAMN! Where'd they all go???* ;) :p
Well it's bloody obvious, since I'm neither Bush nor a politician there've never been any from me :cool:
mitchem1 11-21-2005, 05:34 AM I responded to a response from another member, how you deal with it is up to you, but if you think that gives you the right to use Bush style justice ala Gitmo style on me, then you're gonna be disappointed.
Oh and you need to read a few more posts of mine before making rash judgements on me, stop acting like the American justice department does since Bush took over :rolleyes:
Bush style justice ala Gitmo style..... what the hell is that?
Don't flatter yourself by thinking my judgement is rash. I've read way more of your 10000 posts than I care to admit. Rubbish. But you're consistent, I'll give you that.
Vassago 11-21-2005, 08:39 AM I think Rich is secretly part of the Bush administration and does not want to give his identity away. Rumsfield perhaps?
I've read way more of your 10000 posts than I care to admit. Rubbish. But you're consistent, I'll give you that.
Well that's odd, most of these 10,000 posts are on the main boards and I don't recall you correcting that many, if any:rolleyes:
Or reprehending that, right wing, I rule the world, gun ho, hang em high president you've currently got either :p
JoeSanders 11-21-2005, 11:47 AM Well that's odd, most of these 10,000 posts are on the main boards and I don't recall you correcting that many, if any:rolleyes:
Or reprehending that, right wing, I rule the world, gun ho, hang em high president you've currently got either :p
Did you say most of them were on the main board?
Did you say most of them were on the main board?
Are you deaf? :cool:
Mile-O 11-21-2005, 12:34 PM And we lost the thread where Rich actually posted his pic. :rolleyes:
Urgh, 4,000 posts gone. :(
And we lost the thread where Rich actually posted his pic. :rolleyes:
Friday's come to the rescue there:cool: :p
jsanders 11-21-2005, 12:50 PM And we lost the thread where Rich actually posted his pic. :rolleyes:
Urgh, 4,000 posts gone. :(
That’s really a bummer.
It’s like some burned a book or something, worse it’s like all of your books were burned.
Robgould 11-21-2005, 02:19 PM I am new to access and VBA. What I know I have tought myself by pouring over help files, tiral and error, and these forums. The loss of forums like this would do great damage to guys like me. If I could have gotten hold of that hacker, there would have been a real victim for this crime.
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