It seems to me that most of the arguments here stem from the news sources people use.

So I’m curios.

I get the majority of mine from NPR, PRI, and the BBC.

And I get my financial news mostly from Reuters

I get a decent chunk of my news from the various tv networks (to a degree, I'm in the news business), a little slice now and again from the Daily Show. For print news, I read The Week, which is a magazine that summarizes the best stories from a variety of sources.

Kraj, TV Networks and the Daily Show!?!?
Well at least that explains some things.

So what is NPR and PRI?

I like ArabNews English print, BBC is ok for a different view also. But I do use multi-online sources. I hardly ever watch the national news from any of the major stations anymore as I have found they seem to either put their own spin/take on a subject (not true unbiased reporting) or skip stores all together if it is not to their way of thinking. I do watch local news however.

Kraj, TV Networks and the Daily Show!?!?
Well at least that explains some things.

So what is NPR and PRI?

I like ArabNews English print, BBC is ok for a different view also. But I do use multi-online sources. I hardly ever watch the national news from any of the major stations anymore as I have found they seem to either put their own spin/take on a subject (not true unbiased reporting) or skip stores all together if it is not to their way of thinking. I do watch local news however.

National Public Radio
Public Radio International

Which explains my propensity to talk about scientific and environmental issues.

http://www.npr.org/
http://www.theworld.org/

Only usally on the radio.

I've heard the Bush Admin wants to pull funding to NPR. Anyone else hear that? Oh, I catch the BBC World News when I can on public tv, and check CNN on-line.

I've heard the Bush Admin wants to pull funding to NPR. Anyone else hear that? Oh, I catch the BBC World News when I can on public tv, and check CNN on-line.




More or less any non-Southern Baptist Bible thumping, anti war mongering, pollution control, advocate type programming is hereby banded by the FCC.

This is message from the Emergency Broadcast System.

PUBLIC NOTICE: In the interest of National Security and implemented by the Homeland Security Department as authorized by the Patriot Act.

All public radio is hereby banned by the FCC.

(But only until this terrorist threat has been contained.)

As soon as we have secured the planet, free speech and mobility will be restored to the American People.

What's NPR ?:confused:

What's NPR ?:confused:
National Public Radio

National Public Radio
Who pays for that?

Who pays for that?

The following is Copied from NPR.org

NPR supports its operations through a combination of membership dues and programming fees from over 780 independent radio stations, sponsorship from private foundations and corporations, and revenue from the sales of transcripts, books, CDs, and merchandise. A very small percentage -- between one percent to two percent of NPR's annual budget -- comes from competitive grants sought by NPR from federally funded organizations, such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, National Science Foundation and the National Endowment for the Arts.

Many Right wingers in the US mistakenly think NPR, PRI, and Public Radio in general have a liberal bias. And if you compare them to right wing networks like FOX you would find the more balanced approach of NPR to be left of your sensibilities.

Check out their web site and listen to some of there recordings of some of their broadcast.

I get the news from my homepage: http://news.google.com/ modified to fill my needs.
There I have all the news and links to all the papers that talks about it. This way I don't get the version of the news dictate by someone, but versions of every newspaper so I can build my opinion instead of taking someone else's.

As soon as we have secured the planet, free speech and mobility will be restored to the American People.
As long as they're not communists, eh:rolleyes:

NPR: Iraq (http://www.npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1010)
NPR: Great Interviews (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13) (Search for Friedman and Cirincione)

Middle East (http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage)

Almost anything by Friedman (http://www.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/thomaslfriedman/index.html) ;) (This might be a subscriber-page. He writes for the N.Y. Times and has written a few great books).

Asia (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page.html) (Haven't checked this one yet but hope to soon).

Reference:
http://www.brook.edu (http://www.brook.edu/)
http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx
http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/

happy hunting :eek:

I try to get info from lots of different sources in different countries, and use the web a lot for this.

The following is Copied from NPR.org. . . . . . . . "sponsorship from private foundations and corporations"
so yet again as is usual in the USA, its big businesses that call the tune and tell the NPR what to say (like they control the US Government) - or the money dries up:rolleyes: and those businesses have alot of clout in the US government, so NPR will be very careful what they say no doubt.

Col

so yet again as is usual in the USA, its big businesses that call the tune and tell the NPR what to say (like they control the US Government) - or the money dries up:rolleyes: and those businesses have alot of clout in the US government, so NPR will be very careful what they say no doubt.

Col

Morning Col,

This is one of the few times you can actually find out for yourself. Just go to their web site and scroll around pick any news cast you want and take a listen.

Between NPR and PRI I challenge you to find a more well-balanced and impartial news program.

www.npr.org
www.theworld.org

Joe

PS. The vast majority comes from their affiliate radio stations and are primarily funded by listener contributions (like my $100.00 per year)

so yet again as is usual in the USA, its big businesses that call the tune and tell the NPR what to say (like they control the US Government) - or the money dries up:rolleyes: and those businesses have alot of clout in the US government, so NPR will be very careful what they say no doubt.

Col

Just like the BBC... Go figure :rolleyes:

Good Afternoon Joe,

Unfortunately, our IT people have stopped us listening to radio from tinternet because its in a "high bandwidth category" so I'll have to take your word for it.

So if NPR has "sponsorship from private foundations and corporations" what do they (corporations) get for their money? just advertising space?

In a country where money is God and lots of money = lots of influence and power, I find it difficult to believe these companies don't exert influence on whats broadcast, especially where the US government is concerned. e.g. we all know that big companies in the US pay huge money to keep the government from implementing emission controls in line with Kyoto etc.

So it may seem fair that the government in return gets these companies to put pressure on little radio stations to always show things "favourably" or if it must mention "delicate" items - to skirt over them quickly.

Too cynical perhaps?

would a local TV station show the film Fahrenheit 9/11 on a saturday night? have you seen it? its very revealing

Col

Just like the BBC... Go figure :rolleyes:

The BBC is not funded by sponsorship from private foundations and corporations - its funded by the UK people paying a TV license fee.

Col

Somewhere down the line, an elected official must be accountable for this process...? Or is it one of the titulars?

Somewhere down the line, an elected official must be accountable for this process...? Or is it one of the titulars?
The Chairman of The BBC runs the BBC - the license money is collected by The Post Office or by direct debit and goes to the TV License centre (part of the BBC) based in Bristol.

Col

Who does the Chairman report to?

Who does the Chairman report to? The BBC board of directors and the license payers.

Col

If you're happy and you know it clap your hands *clap**clap* If you're happy and you know it clap your hands *CLAP**CLAP*. If you're happy and you know it and your face surely shows it, and your happy and you know it clap your hands *CLAP**CLAP* :D

Heheheeh......sorry it is Fri and wanted to bring some joy!!! Apparently everyone is in here so that is where I came. ;) :D

The BBC board of directors and the license payers.

Col

Do you think Mr Grade may be slightly pro gambling industry?

Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/biographies/biogs/boardofgovernors/michaelgrade.shtml)

Happy?:rolleyes: sorry, you've lost me, I'll have to go and look that up. Not a word I'm familiar with.

Clap clap - thats some kind of medical condition I think

Col

Happy?:rolleyes: sorry, you've lost me, I'll have to go and look that up. Not a word I'm familiar with.

Clap clap - thats some kind of medical condition I think

Col

I wasn't sure what that word ment either until I met all you folks on here....*sweet smile* Happy, not the clap. And would you prefer a *THWACK* Col?? I think you are starting to like it.

And it is a little song to make you feel good. Outa try singing it out loud. I learned that on ETV when I was younger.

Did they have TV's for you guys when you were younger. :p *ducks and runs for cover*

Good Afternoon Joe,

Unfortunately, our IT people have stopped us listening to radio from tinternet because its in a "high bandwidth category" so I'll have to take your word for it.

So if NPR has "sponsorship from private foundations and corporations" what do they (corporations) get for their money? just advertising space?

In a country where money is God and lots of money = lots of influence and power, I find it difficult to believe these companies don't exert influence on whats broadcast, especially where the US government is concerned. e.g. we all know that big companies in the US pay huge money to keep the government from implementing emission controls in line with Kyoto etc.

So it may seem fair that the government in return gets these companies to put pressure on little radio stations to always show things "favourably" or if it must mention "delicate" items - to skirt over them quickly.

Too cynical perhaps?

would a local TV station show the film Fahrenheit 9/11 on a saturday night? have you seen it? its very revealing

Col


American Public Radio in either the form of PRI or NPR is a vigorous watchdog of the American government.

They are as likely to report on anything from acid rain to the problems with American diplomacy in Zimbabwe. What I really like about the news on both networks is two fold.

1. They report on a much wider range of programs than non public networks.
2. They usually bring in talking heads from both sides of a debate.

I think a lot of Republicans would call them liberal, and they are from the stand point of reporting minority (not just racial) issues. But the republican’s definition of liberal now days is anyone disagreeing with the president and his blind obsession with bankrupting the middle class (that’s a story for another thread).

Any way too bad you cant get NPR its is very well produced, informative and balanced.

By the way they are not radio cast, they are actually files that you download and play on Windows Media Player.

PRI is a joint broadcast between the BBC and a public radio station in Boston.

Do you think Mr Grade may be slightly pro gambling industry?

Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/biographies/biogs/boardofgovernors/michaelgrade.shtml)

I don't follow - Grade's CV is fairly impressive

"1964: Sports columnist, Daily Mirror
1966: Theatrical agent, London
1973: Deputy controller of entertainment programmes, LWT
1984: Controller, BBC One
1986: Director of programmes, BBC Television
1988: Chief executive, Channel 4
1997: Chief executive, First Leisure
1999: Chairman, Pinewood-Shepperton studios
2001: Chairman, Camelot "

Selena - Rich may know about TV programmes for kids in the old days. We have kids TV now, it teaches kids killing baddies is good and violence is exciting, and it teaches them that if you're a teenage witch you can screw up peoples lives quite easily.

Col

I don't follow - Grade's CV is fairly impressive

"1964: Sports columnist, Daily Mirror
1966: Theatrical agent, London
1973: Deputy controller of entertainment programmes, LWT
1984: Controller, BBC One
1986: Director of programmes, BBC Television
1988: Chief executive, Channel 4
1997: Chief executive, First Leisure
1999: Chairman, Pinewood-Shepperton studios
2001: Chairman, Camelot "

Selena - Rich may know about TV programmes for kids in the old days. We have kids TV now, it teaches kids killing baddies is good and violence is exciting, and it teaches them that if you're a teenage witch you can screw up peoples lives quite easily.

Col

I didn't think you would...

He was Chairman of the lottery operator, Camelot plc from 2002 to 2004.

American diplomacy in Zimbabwe.
Whats that then? not another discreet invasion is it?

But the republican’s definition of liberal now days is anyone disagreeing with the president and his blind obsession with bankrupting the middle class (that’s a story for another thread).
Go for it JJ:D

By the way they are not radio cast, they are actually files that you download and play on Windows Media Player.
I did try, but got the high bandwidth message

Col

Whats that then? not another discreet invasion is it?

Col


I think our current diplomatic relations with Zimbabwe is normal. Actually I made it up, it starts with Z, you know acid rain-Zimbabwe.

He was Chairman of the lottery operator, Camelot plc from 2002 to 2004.

so? does that make him bad? and I hardly think the lottery is gambling in the true sense - one tends to think of high rollers poker and stuff.

Are you able to tell us how Grade's link with Camelot and his Chairmanship of the BBC is suspect?

Col

I think our current diplomatic relations with Zimbabwe is normal.
so the US government is quite happy about what Mugabe is doing down there then?

Col

I never said he was suspect, whatever that means. If he holds such a high position in an outstanding organization such as the BBC I'm sure he's an exceptional person. I simply stated that he would probably be pro-gambling because of his past business interests in the industry...

so the US government is quite happy about what Mugabe is doing down there then?

Col
Col,
Before you end up in a one sided debate.

I don’t actually know anything about Zimbabwe.

Lately I haven’t even listened to the news much; I’m too busy trying to make a living.

so the US government is quite happy about what Mugabe is doing down there then?

Col
Col,
Before you end up in a one sided debate.

I don’t actually know anything about Zimbabwe.

Lately I haven’t even listened to the news much; I’m too busy trying to make a living.

Selena - Rich may know about TV programmes for kids in the old days. Col

You mean during the 1980s? :confused: :cool: :p

Col,

I don’t actually know anything about Zimbabwe.

.
Well that figures :rolleyes:

I never said he was suspect, whatever that means. If he holds such a high position in an outstanding organization such as the BBC I'm sure he's an exceptional person. I simply stated that he would probably be pro-gambling because of his past business interests in the industry...

I may have misread your comment
Do you think Mr Grade may be slightly pro gambling industry?
as to having an underlying hint or seediness about it - my apologies if that was not the case.

JJ - Zimbabwe is right up the US governments street, lots of killing, houses being destroyed, people made homeless, government terrorists killing people and the whole place is run by a Dictator who's crazy. not sure if they have oil though. - Perhaps you haven't heard about it on your unbiased public radio station.;)

Col

Well that figures :rolleyes:


Admitting one is not omnipresent, is the first step to enlightenment.

I would invite you to try it, but objectivity is certainly not one of your weaknesses.

I would invite you to try it, but objectivity is certainly not one of your weaknesses.
Neither is enlightenment on worldly affairs Josephi :cool:
hell we even know what's going on in your country :eek:

JJ - Zimbabwe is right up the US governments street, lots of killing, houses being destroyed, people made homeless, government terrorists killing people and the whole place is run by a Dictator who's crazy. not sure if they have oil though. - Perhaps you haven't heard about it on your unbiased public radio station.;)

Col


They have 448 audio articles on their website. I’m sure they have a wide variety of human interest stories and political discussions.

They have 448 audio articles on their website.
And you've never heard of the place, Josey start doing some listening to something other than US propoganda:rolleyes:

They have 448 audio articles on their website. I’m sure they have a wide variety of human interest stories and political discussions.
good oh, shame nobody listens to them though - so this public radio thingy, is it not a proper radio station with news and reports and music? or do you have to go online and select what you want to listen to.

Col

I may have misread your comment

as to having an underlying hint or seediness about it - my apologies if that was not the case.

JJ - Zimbabwe is right up the US governments street, lots of killing, houses being destroyed, people made homeless, government terrorists killing people and the whole place is run by a Dictator who's crazy. not sure if they have oil though. - Perhaps you haven't heard about it on your unbiased public radio station.;)

Col

Seediness. Thats and interesting word. So that I can better follow your logic here, help me out - Would you agree to the online def of the word: 'Somewhat disreputable'?

good oh, shame nobody listens to them though - so this public radio thingy, is it not a proper radio station with news and reports and music? or do you have to go online and select what you want to listen to.

Col

Yes and no, it is on the radio. But the format is completely different than regular broadcast.

First Public Radio is non-profit. The public broadcasting society was formed in the late 50s (not sure may have been the early 60s). It has programming like the arts, and human interest stories. Local stations have their own programming but they also are members of NPR where they get their national and international reports.


The local stations will air community programming on such things as local restaurants, things to do on weekends, what kind of jobs are growing, stuff like that. They also have talk show on local politics, where they invite the mayor or the congress person, etc.



Public Broadcasting was originally paid for by grants from the US government, but as the funds dwindled they started taking donations from private citizens and private grants. Like the Gates, McCarthy, and such as that.

It seam’s like you should have something like this in Europe.

You probably do and you’re just playing me.

It seam’s like you should have something like this in Europe.

You probably do and you’re just playing me.

Nope, we'd much rather pay for it ourselves and get unbiased reporting

It seam’s like you should have something like this in Europe.

You probably do and you’re just playing me.
Europe may have, we haven't in the UK, as we've discussed, we have the BBC and BBC local radio for news closer to home.

Anyway, you'll be pleased to know I'm off home now, its 4pm finish today. I'm sure Rich will continue this discussion.

Have a nice weekend all.

Col

Nope, we'd much rather pay for it ourselves and get unbiased reporting

Have you not been listening. We do pay for it.

Obtuse again huh?

Have you not been listening. We do pay for it.

Obtuse again huh?
No you don't, it's sponsored :rolleyes:

No you don't, it's sponsored :rolleyes:

Sponsered by listeners, hence the term listener sponsered.

Speaking of media bias, here are a few interesting excerpts from a BBC critic:

The BBC's mental assumptions are those of the fairly soft Left. They are that American power is a bad thing, whereas the UN is good, that the Palestinians are in the right and Israel isn't, that the war in Iraq was wrong, that the European Union is a good thing and that people who criticise it are "xenophobic", that racism is the worst of all sins, that abortion is good and capital punishment is bad, that too many people are in prison, that a preference for heterosexual marriage over other arrangements is "judgmental", that environmentalists are public-spirited and "big business" is not, that Gerry Adams is better than Ian Paisley, that government should spend more on social programmes, that the Pope is out of touch except when he criticises the West, that gun control is the answer to gun crime, that... well, you can add hundreds more articles to the creed without my help.


On the same programme (the famed Today), I heard an interviewer asking an Islamist, virtually unchallenged, to expound his belief that the men who killed thousands in the World Trade Centre were doing the will of Allah. Imagine such respectful treatment for some white fascist who thinks God wants black people dead.

Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/09/09/do0901.xml)

Sounds like we don’t need to listen to broadcast from the BBC; we can tune in right here.

Sponsered by listeners, hence the term listener sponsered.
How much do you donate ?:confused:

something very interesting about NPR that many are not aware of:

Link (http://www.current.org/npr/npr0309kroc.shtml)

note that NPR is refered to as a cultural institution in this and another article i read.

IMHO it's simply great reporting. if you decide to give it a try, take some time to get used to it if it's not your style at first, or you might not see the attraction (like so many things...). you'll probably be surprised at how hard it is to go back to what you listened to or watched before.

p.s. the lottery is gambling in every sense, and even in name (lottery). ;)

Speaking of media bias, here are a few interesting excerpts from a BBC critic:






Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/09/09/do0901.xml)
That was written by a pro Bush, pro war in Iraq prat who was complaining about having to pay a licence fee, but then if he lived in the States he wouldn't have to listen to anything other than propaganda, would he:rolleyes:

How much do you donate ?:confused:


I told you earlier $100.00
Once or twice a year.

something very interesting about NPR that many are not aware of:

Link (http://www.current.org/npr/npr0309kroc.shtml)

note that NPR is refered to as a cultural institution in this and another article i read.

IMHO it's simply great reporting. give it a chance - take some time to get used to it, if it's not your style at first - and you'll be surprised at how hard it is to go back to what you listened to or watched before.

p.s. the lottery is gambling in every sense, and even in name (lottery). ;)



That’s because it’s geared for more intellectual people.

I told you earlier $100.00
Once or twice a year.
telling porkies again Josey, just like when you set our hopes up thinking we could have a good wake :rolleyes:

telling porkies again Josey, just like when you set our hopes up thinking we could have a good wake :rolleyes:

What do you mean?
Are you saying I don't contribute?

Are you saying I don't contribute?
not to the piss up fund for your wake you didn't.
And another thing, why do you Yanks keep calling Iraq, Eyeraq, it's I as in in and it, Iraq!:mad: :p

not to the piss up fund for your wake you didn't.
And another thing, why do you Yanks keep calling Iraq, Eyeraq, it's I as in in and it, Iraq!:mad: :p

Piss up fund?


Did I write it that way or are you simply loosing whatever part of your mind that previously was semi-stable?

Piss up fund

Yes it's traditional for a wake

Did I write it that way
Yes, you couldn't stand the pressure here any more and were committing hari kari

Yes it's traditional for a wake


Yes, you couldn't stand the pressure here any more and were committing hari kari

No one told me about paying for my own piss up (whatever that is)

No one told me about paying for my own piss up (whatever that is)
just a few celebratory drinks Josey and who else would pay, haven't we suffered enough ? :p

just a few celebratory drinks Josey and who else would pay, haven't we suffered enough ? :p

Where's the fund located?

But I dont think I want to die just yet. You knuckle heads will have to world in a big mess without me.

Where's the fund located?


Just send it to me in a plain brown bag


You knuckle heads will have to world in a big mess without me

Actually if it had been left to us and not the shoot first ask questions later mob, there wouldn't be a mess now :mad:

In case you actually care about the facts regarding NPR, their revenue breaks down as follows:

43% Programming Fees
36% Grants and contributions
11% Distribution Services
8% Other/Miscellaneous
2% Membership dues

As you can see, sponsorship is a significant but not majority source of funding. Additionally, you can see a list of all the major contributors on page 22 of the annual report. Around one out of twenty large contributions are directly from corporations; the vast majority are from private foundations.

If you want to look at the annual report so you can, you know, find something to complain about, go here (http://www.npr.org/about/privatesupport.html).

In case you actually care about the facts regarding NPR, their revenue breaks down as follows:

43% Programming Fees
36% Grants and contributions
11% Distribution Services
8% Other/Miscellaneous
2% Membership dues

As you can see, sponsorship is a significant but not majority source of funding. Additionally, you can see a list of all the major contributors on page 22 of the annual report. Around one out of twenty large contributions are directly from corporations; the vast majority are from private foundations.

If you want to look at the annual report so you can, you know, find something to complain about, go here (http://www.npr.org/about/privatesupport.html).



If the programming fees and the distribution services are billed to the member stations (which I’m assuming they are) then even a higher percentage comes from listeners, because the revenue for local broadcasters is mostly listener supported as well.

Remember they don’t have commercials on Public Radio or TV. All they say is “This programming is paid for by a grant from the XYZ Foundation.”

One of my favorites.

Science for the common man.

http://www.sciencefriday.com/

Not these three :D

BBC News.

Hi im new


I get my news from BBC, Jones Report, Alex Jones, You Tube.
And then just what ever;perhaps CNN online.

Does anyone listen to Alex Jones?



Terri321

TV - Sky News or one of the local "National" news. Occasionally BBC.

Radio - Triple J (http://www.triplej.net.au) - headlines on the half hour in the mornings, news breaks on the hour, and a current affairs show from 5:30 to 6:00PM while I'm driving home.
They are part of the government-funded ABC network, but are perceived as having an anti-government (left? I don't know which way is which in politics)bias (so the PM hasn't given them an interview in the last 2 terms he's been in office...). May have something to do with their 18-25 target demographic.
(so they usually have good music too! :D )

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Terri321
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