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The news continues to slowly ooze-out that the anti-Trump "radicals" were successful at intimidating the scientific community into suppressing the Wuhan Lab leak theory as the origin of the Covid virus. This was purposely done as one of the vile prongs for defeating Trump's bid for re-election, that unfortunately worked. It also demonstrates that those, in the scientific community, claiming to be following the science, did not. They let politics undermine science.

An interesting aspect concerning the news below is that it originated with NBC, one of the media outlets vilifying Trump. Evidently, now that Trump is out-of-office, the media that had been attacking Trump and suppressing news favorable to Trump is now allowing the back stories to slowly emerge. Unfortunately, it is now to late to affect the election, now that it is over. One of the problems with the news media, publish lies in big bold print before an event to unjustly tilt the scales. Then after the event to quietly, in small print, offer a "correction", oops.

Last month the scientist, Alina Chan, and 18 others published an open letter in the journal Science seeking a comprehensive investigation into the origin of the virus to include consideration of the so-called ‘lab-leak theory’ which Trump promoted early on in the pandemic.
She told NBC that a number of researchers and scientists did not want to talk publicly about the potentiality of the virus escaping the Wuhan lab because they were more concerned about being associated with “racist” language surrounding COVID-19 following the former president’s use of phrases like “Wuhan virus” and “China virus.”

“At the time, it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn’t want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins,” Chan told the broadcaster.
 
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The moral of the story is science can be corrupted. We argue this point in regards to global warming. It comes down to political pressure. It's not about denial it's about corruption.
 

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The moral of the story is science can be corrupted. We argue this point in regards to global warming. It comes down to political pressure. It's not about denial it's about corruption.
well said. any process, industry, or discipline that involves humans becomes inevitably awash with human defects, biases, agendas, beliefs, etc - Science included.

Confirmation Bias just one relevant item on a list of many ...
 

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LOL. nice post.
 

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Last night, Laura Ingraham had Rand Paul, who is a doctor, on her show concerning Covid. Recently, Paul and Fauci are having a tit-for-tat concerning Covid. What was of interest to me were Paul's remarks concerning the Delta variant. Paul remarked that while the Delta variant was more transmissible, it was also more benign where the death rate was 1/10th that of "normal" Covid. Unfortunately that film clip is not available.

But the implications of Paul's remark are profound. Is the Delta variant something we need to worry about?

Of course, we should be concerned about all diseases. But, are the concerns over the Delta variant being overblown?

Below is an article and video: "Horowitz described the warnings from epidemiologists and public health bureaucrats like Dr. Fauci as “panic porn dressed up as science.” Additionally, there are additional concerns:
  • some people have had adverse reactions to the vaccine. Some have claimed that death rate from getting the vaccine may exceed the death rate of getting the Delta variant. That is a concern that needs to be verified and would be critical to understanding if the angst over Covid (Delta variant) is justified.
  • Getting the vaccine and your susceptibility to Covid, is age and health related.
  • If a person has had Covid, there is some evidence that they should not get the vaccine.
  • the efficacy of the vaccine while good still results in some people getting relapses.
  • Some of the preventive measures (such as masks) are worthless to deleterious.
 

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An inconvenient truth, science "used" to suggest that if you had the virus you had sufficient antibodies to protect you from reinfection. The problem is science doesn't consider natural immunity when deciding whether or not you need the vaccine. You either get the jab or you're the scum of the earth. There is some research that suggests if you have had the virus and then get the vaccine your body goes into an overload situation. The medical field should test the remaining people to see if they had the virus before mandating something that may be harmful to the young and healthy members of society since the chances of dying for the young are rare.
 

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The concept of "natural immunity" needs to be bifurcated. Based on my lay-person point-of-view, the "true" definition of natural immunity means that you won't catch Covid. (period). Nevertheless there are people who are asymptomatic. Would this constitute natural immunity? I don' know.

However, there has evolved a second application concerning "natural immunity"; that you are immune either because you have had the disease or have been vaccinated. To me, that is not natural immunity since you have developed the immunity through exposure. Nevertheless, you would still be immune to the extent that the disease does not evolve into a new form making the immunity ineffective. Both the media and the science community should be cognizant of this subtle distinction.

There is some research that suggests if you have had the virus and then get the vaccine your body goes into an overload situation.
A very serious concern that is not yet getting enough exposure.
 
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It would be interesting to see what the "other camp" would say in response to this...
 

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Wondering which "red" states the dems are sending the infected migrants to. 🤔

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