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  1. Libre

    How do you know what you know?

    Unless, of course, you are not seeking to find a solution for a specific problem and are embarked on a quest to simply improve or increase your knowledge. Oh, so the concept of 'philosophical skepticism' has been debunked? I hadn't heard. It's nice that somebody finally discovered the true...
  2. Libre

    How do you know what you know?

    Well, now that you mentioned Zeno - I'll say that he was the guy who raised the questions - and disputed the hard won knowledge - and pissed everybody off. They had no way to answer him. It takes calculus to even approach an answer to his paradox, and even then it doesn't quite satisfy...
  3. Libre

    How do you know what you know?

    You brought a lot of "stuff" into the discussion - stuff about Kant and philosophy, engineering and traveling to other planets - but you didn't address my question: Are your fingernails growing? And now I have a second question based on your statement: Second question: Can you trust your...
  4. Libre

    How do you know what you know?

    Doc Man I think a lot of what you wrote is correct. In fact it proves my point. We don't KNOW. We were taught in school or at home - or elsewhere - what the "teacher" (anyone) thought was true. For whatever reason, we trust the teacher. So we adopt what they told us as true despite the fact that...
  5. Libre

    How do you know what you know?

    Read the threads. So many strong opinions. No, not opinions - let's call them convictions. They are convictions because those that advance them are certain that they are correct and those who disagree are obviously A) stupid sheep or B) evil liars. Frothy said he has two "otherwise...
  6. Libre

    These People vote?

    Personally I worry more about the voting habits of the folks who are convinced that the Earth is 6,000 years old and that the universe was conjured up by a kindly invisible wizard in the sky, than I worry about those who are unaware of the unit conversion from pounds to tons. As far as the...
  7. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    The children killed in Egypt were killed by the (so called) Lord's Angel of Death. They were not murdered by people. It's hardly accurate, based on the quote, to claim that Bladerunner is advocating the murder of children, today, in our society. He was referring to biblical times and killing...
  8. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    I don't think it's right or fair to be lambasting a forum member who is not present. It's one thing to engage someone directly, but making up names (other than the made-up names the person made up for themselves), representing their philosophy in your own way, putting words in their mouth - it's...
  9. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    I would entertain any rational explanation for pretty much anything.
  10. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    I don't think it's really necessary to explain every variation in every species and their ancestors as well as their descendants - as long as the overall process is accepted and comprehended. Getting from one number of belly scales to another - or exactly detailing all the morphological...
  11. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    Exactly my point. They hate them anyway - it doesn't matter that they didn't choose their color. Choice is not at the root of their hatred. Probably the same haters, and for the same reasons - something threatens their conception of how things SHOULD be, or the way it USED TO be - in their...
  12. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    The point of my post is that there really is no debate about choice. It's irrelevant - it's just a handy, clearly phrased question that is easy to take a position on - even though most people have no actual knowledge about it. To prove my point, imagine that definite proof was found that either...
  13. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    I don't see why the question of choice is that important. Geniuses in science are born with the innate ability to be geniuses - why give them any credit? Maybe murderers are born with a gene to predispose them to be murders - why condemn them? Maybe every single thing we do in our life is not...
  14. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    If I can take a stab at answering this, I would say that in order for natural selection to occur, the trait in question has to have a genetic component - in other words be transmitted from generation to generation in the genes. There is no such genetic component to homosexuality - at least...
  15. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    If you blindfolded me and then handed me a legless lizard and a snake of the same length, I would not be able to tell which was which on account of the fact that I'd be unconscious due to the shock of being blindfolded and having you hand me these things. This would be you: Here put this...
  16. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    Thanks. But now I don't remember exactly what I had changed it to. I've changed it a few times. I know proof was in there someplace, and I do agree that evidence =/= proof. I've gotten to the point - maybe during this thread - where I don't even believe that there is any "proof" about...
  17. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    Doc Man There are certainly unseen forces that exert huge influences in the physical world without being able to be described, observed, or understood. If I asked you to produce a thing called gravity or magnetism you would have a difficult time of it. You can demonstrate the effect (weight...
  18. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    I can agree with most of your post Doc Man. And I think that, when it comes to proofs, linguistic precision is absolutely necessary. Ambiguity in the phrasing of the proof invalidates it. For one reason, ambiguity can later be used to claim something other than what was initially stated - to...
  19. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    Oh no - the hubris is in your thinking that you know the minds of every logician out there.
  20. Libre

    Are you an atheist?

    Ah ok. So that proves it. You say it's empty and that's the proof. Your argument, in effect, is the following: Premise: The bucket is empty. Conclusion: Therefore the bucket is empty. Certainly, in your made up universe, you can say that not only is this bucket empty, but all buckets are...
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