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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    This is so absolutely ludicrous that nothing you ask deserves a serious response.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    I was responding to the Doc Man's insult. What are you talking about? I highly doubt this is your primary reason for refuting God. If it were, you'd know that God justifies this in Gen 15:16 and Deut 18:10-12. The real questions you should be asking the Bible are: Why are we the way we...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    My standard of morals is clearly better than yours because I refrain from insulting someone I disagree with. How can I trust that your obviously weaker morality hasn't impacted your thinking? This is a pleasant story but ignores the other tribe that was really hungry and ate Johnny and his...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Let's see how well your theory works. Some people here think abortion is murder. Some think it's a woman's choice. Who's right? Each claims a moral superiority over his opponent. If there is no moral law giver, how do you decide which choice is morally correct? Do you decide by majority? Do you...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    The point is that if an objective moral standard does not exist, then all morals are neutral and none is better than any other.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    It was in regards to the point that you think unneccessary suffering should be avoided. No problem. The point is way past.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Let's see how well you stand up to your own judgements. Do you think stealing is wrong? Do you faithfully give your employer 100% effort for your pay? If you are honest you can see by your own actions you disqualify yourself by contradiction. Athiests typically agree that morals are evolved...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    See Rabbie, you have just assigned the moral authority to YOURSELF. Even if you try to give it to 'culture' as a whole the logic is still flawed because by their relative nature cultures are untrustworthy to even establish absolutes among themselves or to give reliable absolutes. Moral...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    To which point are you referring: that morality is defined regionally or that if there is no God then there is no moral superiority? If you don't agree with my first point, try to find a homosexual in Iran. If it is the second point you deny as a fact then tell me what gives you the right to...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    By observation we see that humanity has differing views of the same moral points. To which group will you assign the authority to define these points? Do you understand that if there is no God, there can be no moral superiority?
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    If you recognize suffering, it is nonsensical to call it something other than evil. If you accept evil, you must accept that there is 'good'. If you accept 'good', you must accept a moral law for the basis of differentiating between good and evil. When you accept a moral law you must accept a...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    You are missing the point that even Richard Dawkins agrees with, that without a divine lawgiver, there is no good and there is no evil. Morality is an invention of humanity. It is varied and hypocritcally ignored. When humanity ceases to exist, morality goes with it. How do you feel about...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    We're back to the question of absolutes in morality. Who's to say "when a life has really begun"? If God does not exist, then morality is a personal preference to be hypocritically ignored at one's discretion. You can't have it both ways.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    If God doesn't exist we agree that a golden standard does not exist. And so any question of abortion is a personal preference. I like my fetus' with mustard and relish on a hotdog role. You may prefer them born in a hospital for the purpose of house chores. If God exists his existence is...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Even attaching the word 'evolved' to morals is misleading. It is not provable scientifically. Regardless of whether or not morals change over time, a golden standard still does not exist. If a moral changes, how does one know the change is correct with out an unchanging standard? And it's...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Can anyone explain how morality evolves scientifically? Has morality been found in the human genome project? If it could be proven that morality evolves, well then, can we actually say group A's morality is better than group B's? What gives anyone moral supremacy to make such a judgment...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    You have to decide this first. Any question of right and wrong must start here.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    How can there be such a thing as natural law if there is no supreme natural lawgiver? Which is most plausible? A. Mankind has an intuitive sense of morality instilled in it by a creator who is the supreme lawgiver. Therefore morality actually exists. B. Mankind has a sense of morality...
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    What type of control to display data?

    I don't know how. I tried to drag the complex_table onto the jobs form but that doesn't work. I made another form of the complex_table with fields complex_abbr, managementcompany. What do I do link complex_abbr of the subform to complexabbreviation of the jobs form?
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    What type of control to display data?

    The record source of the jobs form is the jobs_table. I don't think a single dlookup is going to work because phonenumber is in managementCompanies_table. I wrote a nested dlookup: =Dlookup("phonenumber","managementCompanies_table", "[managementcompany]='" &DLookup("managementcompany"...
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