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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Fine. And when that happens and a new member of the human species is created, at that point it will be wrong to end its life.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    It seems his position is that human life is continuous, beginning at some point eons ago, continuing until some undetermined point in the future, and with many endings in between (deaths). Since life does not begin at conception but has been continuous since its one beginning, there is...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    To what definition are you referring? The discussion is not whether abortion is legally murder, it is whether it is in fact murder. The concept of murder transcends legal systems. You are absolutely right. If murder is intentionally and directly killing a human being, and if the newly...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Before answering your question, I'd like some clarification. What do you mean by sentient being and aware. Do you propose that being sentient and/or aware is a requirement of being human and, since human, then therefore possessing some quality that would compel us to protect its existence...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    No, I should have explained. This is a diagram of a simple logical argument (truly, of all people, programmers should understand this). Our discussion really is a simple logical discussion. I am not ignoring anyone. Until now, you haven't provided any premises on which life does not begin...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Simple (used in a more philosophical tone rather than a snarky tone, which I really avoid) means not complex. If A=B and B=C, then A=C. This is argument I just demonstrated is a simple argument. Silly, we can't all be right - in fact, there is only one right answer, either human or not human...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    An egg does not have the power in and of itself to become a baby. Given its normal development, it will die just as it began, an egg. A fertilized egg, however, is no longer an egg. What is it? Science shows that it is a member of the human species, not the mother, not the father, but unique...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    I knew you were going to say that. People with Down's Syndrome begin with 46 chromosomes, 23 contributed each by the egg and sperm. Then something goes wrong in the process of normal human development and one of the chromosomes split. They are fully human, but with an abnormal number of...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    When exactly does fetus=baby?
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    No, the egg only has 23 chromosomes and, while it belongs the the human species, is not itself a human being. Human beings have 46 chromosomes.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Yes. Any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens.
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    "I'll wager that for every "scientific" fact that proves that abortion is taking a life, you will find one that says the opposite. There are reports commissioned that will prove anything if it is worded correctly." Post your wager and provide me a scientific fact that proves that the embryo...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    "Sure it is, you even say in your next post that murder is specifically defined as an illegal killing. As abortion is not illegal, then it is, by definition, not murder. Your choose to label it murder, that is all." I think you misunderstood... I said abortion is legal in the US and what is...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    I think you are missing the point - abortion is murder. There is no debate based on scientific facts. I understand our society has made it legal and that "murder" is illegal, but that is one of the gross inconsistencies in our current laws. If you look at Roe v. Wade (in the US), you will see...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    The fact that intentionally ending the newly conceived life is murder is not an opinion. The science supports it based on the evidence I stated previously, "The embryo formed at conception is a new and unique existence, with all that is required for life until he or she dies. Stage of...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    The woman who chooses to have an abortion is favoring murder over the joy that only a child can bring - even one that is born from ra**. By the way, has anyone ever asked a woman who was raped and kept her baby if she regretted it? If it brought her more pain? It is a complete propaganda that...
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    Should Abortion be Allowed?

    Simple answer. The embryo formed at conception is a new and unique existence, with all that is required for life until he or she dies. Stage of development, dependencies on other persons, or other factors are only secondary to the fact that it is living and is not the mother and not the...
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