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Only if you indulge in Physical violence:D Read this on another forum Q what is the difference between a soccer player and a rugby player A. The soccer player runs around for 90 minutes pretending to be injured while the Rugby player runs around for 80 minutes pretending not to be...

In answer to your question rugby players tend to be tougher and braver than ordinary people. Remember it is a contact sport played without the body armour of American Football players. It might be interesting to see what American Footballers gut flora is like as well.

It came to me in a vision.:)

We have been told that God is above time and knows what is going to happen. so he must have known what was going to happen when he created is perfect world so why does he act all surprised about it. Anyway according to Genesis, Adam and Eve only broke the rules because Eve was lead astray...

Why:confused: People seem to be discussing this in a sensible way.

nobody else really

Reading some of these recent posts is very depressing. IMO a civilised country is one where I can go to a restaurant or bar and have a meal or a drink without putting my life on the line or having to wear body armour or carry a lethal weapon. To me it is just common sense that the more weapons...

IMO if anyone finds a particular thread boring they should just ignore it. We are all different and find different things interesting if you find a topic boring just ignore it

Very true there are some like that. I have already defined what I mean by atheism. Other people may feel a need to convince others that religion is a fraud. I believe that it is up to individuals to make their own decisions especially with regards to their beliefs and moral code.

I have consistently argued in this thread that atheism is not a religion. I do not feel I have a religion. IMO an atheist is anyone who does not believe in supernatural beings.

The only requirement for anyone to be an atheist is simply not to believe that any god or supernatural being exists. It is as simple as that. No need to ask any questions if you don't want to. Theists however have to come up with an explanation of where their god(s) came from. With regard to...

Correct. I actually missed there was a smile. Old eyes. :rolleyes:

I think you missed the point I was making. By checking for hypoxia you are admitting you saw something even if it was an hallucination. It would be irrational of you to deny you had seen something even if it was illusory.

No but it would be smart to consider that there really is no trickery or deceit or other extraneous factor. That is where the critical thinking comes in. If you deny the existence of apple seeds after seeing them then you or not acting rationally. If you fly round the moon and see purple...

It seems to me that if god exists he should provide a little more evidence of his existence. It does seem a little perverse to expect people to believe in you without providing any evidence and then punishing them for eternity if they don't believe in him. Doesn't seem a very nice sort of person...

Simply because you don't get any benefit if you don't

In general I think people have tried to attack the arguments and not the person. A bit of humour is always good.