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And now, for the sake of being difficult, is it possible to have the form fields show before the subform is refreshed? (I'm thinking of any possible way of cheating here, like putting the field outlines on the tab control of the main form in the same place where they would be in the subform...

well, for those out there looking for a similar solution to a complex(?) issue, i guess this would be it. I know there are a dozen or so on a separate forum. hmm keywords for searching the forums: combobox tab record blank default

Has anyone called you a god lately? (two copies made and now for some DISECTION!!) w00t!

ok, converted to 97...i hope it works ok.. access said i was missing some a97 information (?)

misunderstood.. the subform doesn't show up at all. whether a choice has been made in the combo box or not.. Here's new attachment with what I have so far. I'm beginning to suspect it has somethign to do with a bug in teh tab control.

Yes, the subform is based on a query... and it looks like it partially worked. When I open jus tthe subform, I get a prompt for the parameter value (the ID# ), which in this case would be the bound to column2 of the cboBox. that pulls up the correct record in teh subform. the problem now...

I don't know that I can do that. my attempts so far have been ugly to say the least. I think one of my problems is that the data being displayed on the subform is from all 3 tables. It's sorted by name (from one table) , but linked by ID#. I do know that my biggest problem is trying to relearn...

First Off, I must say that for the week or so prior to joining I've been reading the forums here like mad and they have been extremly helpful with everything..except my current issue, and I'll try and be as concise as possible. (done websearches on this one, disected teh NorthwindsDB, disected...