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But .net is massively more complex than Access. Webforms tried to be like vb6/Access, not sure if those are considered bound controls. But webforms had a lot of negtives and is a backwatered framework at this point. A corporate worker could dig in to a book or two and write a line of business...

BlueSpruce that's a good question. I would guess that it's because probably the majority of business users natively use Excel for tasks, they have to to crunch numbers, just like they have to use Word for documents. But Access is not in the same category - with it you can create applications...

They're not trained that way. They tend to go top down - "We're an Oracle shop." The end users that we often deal with do not seem to be who they work for; they work for whomever is higher up in IT. The higher ups in IT are even more remote from the end users. Meanwhile the poor end users that...

Very interesting conversation. A question that came up, how did the slant against Access take root in corporate IT departments, of course has several sides to it. One I think was mentioned, that IT folk aren't experienced with Access, never understand it's strengths, but do trip over it's...

Duane you just cracked me up, thanks!

Your ending bit, not really re PA, because PA is not at all tied to Access. The other in your list were like that. Now Access has nothing to do with web depolyment. I thing PA is much less like the Access model than Lightswitch was. Lightswitch was alive for about 5 years and evolved well in...

After posting I realized I might have run into something like what is needed, and found it again access dependency checker (I guess I can't post an actual url?) I'm testing it now, will report back on how it does.

bluespruce you almost have to be right about that. I don't pay attention to it regularly, and it's been a few years now. But I think if it was maturing into anything like the versatility of Access I'd/we'd have heard about it. From day one, Lightswitch was much closer to what an Access dev would...

Does anyone know of an Access object inventory system that can find unused objects? I think FMS has one. I wrote one, or part of one, in the 90s but lost track of it. I have a plain jane object inventory system, but all it does is mine objects. What missing is relationships, and any of the very...

Also, someone mentioned that power apps are "young", but they've been around now for 7 years...

isladogs I agree a tabbed form icon wouldn't be very effective in any case. Thank you for following up on this.

(to xavier.batlle )That would be worthwhile for some needs, highlighting the active tab, thanks. The goal here is to have the form tabs a distinct color so that they're easy to identify.

Mike no problem. tabbed forms are not the common topic, not surprised you thought it was about tab control.

You're talking about the tab control. I'm asking about forms that are displayed with the "tabbed document" option.

Likewise, no way to change the "icon" of a tabbed document form?

I never use tabbed documents, prefer overlapping windows. I have a client now who is used to tabbed documents but would like the tabs to be more distinctive. As it is the only difference between the tabs on the forms is the location/index and the text. So far I can't find a trace of anyone...

Yes it is important that the form be used for data entry. Using a cont form is a way forward; I think I will switch over to that, unless I think of some other approach. Here I'd prefer datasheet over cont form because it's easy to nav between rows with keystrokes. It's one trade off vs another...

Pat I tried adding the formatting expression into the query; the col becomes read only.

ebs17; I thought of separating into two data entry fields over the weekend. I may give that a try. Not sure exactly how I'd set it up; but probably a single col to store, but two inputs. I think too that it might be possible to switch this to a continuous form; that would then allow for...

The issue with General Date is that it leaves seconds; I don't want to show seconds.