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Old 08-04-2019, 12:12 PM   #1
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Pencil and paper

The pencil and paper method is so much better for small scale business. Since no real constructive help has been offered on here this will be the best way.

To the experts good luck

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Old 08-04-2019, 12:22 PM   #2
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Re: Pencil and paper

Why do you say that? You have 52 other threads here, half of which are tagged [SOLVED].

Good luck to you as well.
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Re: Pencil and paper

Access has too many issues for it to be practical and reliable is why I say this. Thanks for your wishes.

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Re: Pencil and paper

I'm with June7; you've gotten a lot of constructive help here and elsewhere. As to Access having "too many issues for it to be practical and reliable", I and many others can point to Access applications running 24/7/365 for many years. Are there other tools? Of course, but I'd argue none allow you to develop a solid, reliable application as quickly.
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Re: Pencil and paper

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Access has too many issues for it to be practical and reliable is why I say this.
I'm assuming that you are not an Access expert so I'm not sure why you would blame Access. No platform is perfect for all application types. Perhaps you haven't been able to remove your spreadsheet cap and so haven't really understood the power that a relational database offers. I'm a professional developer and I have many years of experience with mainframe platforms prior to when I adopted Access in the mid 90's and I've never wanted to go back. I've developed hundreds of databases for large companies such as Readers' Digest, United Technologies(Hamilton Sunstrand, Pratt & Whitney, and Sikorsky), and Clairol as well as mom and pop operations. Some of them have hundreds of concurrent users (those have SQL Server BE's) and a number have been in operation for 10 + years and have databases with millions of records.

Access is a state of mind. It is a Rapid Application Development tool and in order to do things easily and quickly, it "helps" you. If you are not willing to do thing the "Access" way then Access is certainly not for you but I'd wager money that you won't find any other platform that YOU a non-programmer can even come close to understanding and be more productive with so as you say, Good luck with that.

But if you come to your senses, we're here and willing to help.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:51 PM   #6
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Re: Pencil and paper

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Since no real constructive help has been offered on here this will be the best way.
This statement is inappropriate and just wrong. A few members here have devoted hours of their FREE time to help you. Good, solid advice has been offered and yet somehow you declare yourself enough of an expert to judge the help you have received as “not really constructive”.

It is an insult. Pencil and paper IS your best way forward because I doubt anyone else here is going to be willing to assist after a statement like that.
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What good is bad coding that eventually fails? This is the case from you so called experts on here so no thank you for that. Waste someone else's time.

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What good is bad coding that eventually fails? This is the case from you so called experts on here so no thank you for that. Waste someone else's time.
Presumably you won't ask for any more help from those of us with apps that have run successfully for decades so we won't have to worry about it.
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I am reminded of that great line from the Christian Bale Batman trilogy. Why do we fall down? So we can pick ourselves up and carry on. If you expect us to write perfect code for you, remember that we are starting from imperfect knowledge of your problem. If you seriously expect perfect results from imperfect knowledge, you are living in a dream world.

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This is the case from you so called experts on here so no thank you for that.
Given that we can only exchange vague notions of what you need using English without actually being able to examine your business processes, you should reasonably expect that what we offer can only get close to what you need. We are not here to write your app for you. We are volunteers who genuinely want to help people. But when you talk as you do, you make it sound like you expected a ready-to-go app to be built for you, and that is not merely unrealistic, it verges on stupidity. You can't even purchase over-the-counter software that works perfectly. Just watch how often they release patches and new versions. Heck, we are running on a Microsoft platform. How often do you get notified of new Windows patches? (Answer: They come out about every two weeks.)

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You mean, like you wasted ours? Trust me, the feeling of the need to put some distance between us is mutual.
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Re: Pencil and paper

When a person is ready to “toss in the towel”, they do it silently and simply disappear. This passive-aggressive stance is lame and a vain attempt at sympathy, probably in the hopes that someone will say “here, let me do that for you”

Wrong place to try that..
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Re: Pencil and paper

Back to your old true self I see. ?

I for one will not miss you.
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Re: Pencil and paper

I wonder what happens when he realizes he has to SHARPEN a pencil or it stops working? Will he get rid of it because its broken?
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Go F**K Yourselves!!!
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Fork?
Funk?
Fink?
Folk?
Fisk?

...I give up
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Fork?
Funk?
Fink?
Folk?
Fisk?

...I give up
Oh oh, call on me! I know it!!

billgyrotech, if you get this, and you may not given the interesting new email address you've given yourself , you HAVE gotten constructive help on various threads. You slap the people in the face who gave you that help by saying "no real constructive help has been offered" and you're surprised at their reaction?

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