Happy Thanksgiving America!

[Deleted]

I knoe you understand you are all white supremacists, celebrating a white supremacist season.

The following is from clown world on Twitter:-

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727469927584649656

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I give thanks to my dear wife for putting up with me for another year (since our anniversary is also in November). Being atheist, I don't worry about other issues that much. What counts for me is that we can gather family and friends and chat about insubstantial issues instead of the insanity that is currently going on in the world - like Russia/Ukraine and Israel/Hamas. Plus the whackadoodle shooting incidents, a car exploding on the USA/Canada border, ... my heart can do without the turmoil.

Here in south Louisiana, some people will have deep-fried turkey. For the gathering at our house, it will be roasted turkey, stuffing made with Cajun sausage, various veggie dishes, mac and cheese, and more than one dessert offering. Two friends who would otherwise be alone today are coming with an offering of dessert and both of them are EXCELLENT bakers. I sense an afternoon nap in my future, feet (and recliners) up, TV sound on low so I can watch a play if I wasn't resting my eyes at the moment. <wink><wink>

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Alternative way of cooking. Have you ever eaten fried chicken? Same thing except turkeys are bigger and you don't usually have a breaded or floured coating. Just bird and skin.

Those that have the cooking fire USUALLY violated the cardinal rule of frying a turkey. They don't dry it off. So what happens is that if there is enough water, you get a steam "bump" and the oil jumps out of the frying pot... but the frying pot is usually over an open flame and the oil IS flammable, so... "woosh!"

A Navy friend of mine originally from Indiana came to south Louisiana while on duty. Liked it enough to stay when he retired and got a civil service job with Navy Enterprise Data Center New Orleans (where I worked as contractor.) Bill heard about frying turkeys and thought "how hard can it be?" We already have deep-pot setups for crab, shrimp, and crayfish boils, just the right size for a turkey fry, right? So he set up the typical rig on the lawn of his daughter's sorority house. Dropped in the bird carefully to avoid splatter. But it was still frozen and had a few large chunks of ice here and there. Given how hot the oil gets, it doesn't take long for the steam explosion. As Bill put it, "the girls didn't kick his daughter out of the sorority but he can't ever go back again until the burned grass grows back to normal."

 

[Isaac]

Of course you realise you are all white supremacists, celebrating a white supremacist holiday.

The following clip from clown world on Twitter:-

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727469927584649656

Oh yes, absolutely.
Anyone who takes land from a band of people claiming to own all of it and populated at one person per million square miles is an absolute genocidal maniac!.
And of course all of the native Americans who are full citizens like everyone else and have the same opportunities as everyone else are so much worse off now than they were under their Chiefs and on their horses. Umm hmmm..

And Happy Thanksgiving and thank you it was great and I had turkey. Had an extra day off on Friday too. Facing up to Monday morning at the present. Good luck everybody!

 

[NauticalGent]

I just don't understand why anyone would cook this way instead of in the oven? Is there any reason for it, or is it just an alternative way of cooking?

It is simply fantastic. The meat stays moist and juicy, and I can cook a 13lb bird in 45 min.

Clean up is a bit of a hassle and it has to be done outside, so if it is cold or misting, you get cold and wet. Small trade offs...it's a yank thing...

 

[NauticalGent]

Could be, but you know our history regarding adopting other's culture and claiming it as ours...

 

[ebs17]

In Germany the largest edible bird is a goose.
Some ostriches are now kept, but they are not fried in one piece in a pan.

 

[NauticalGent]

In Germany the largest edible bird is a goose.
Some ostriches are now kept, but they are not fried in one piece in a pan.

I have never had goose. I have had a few variations of duck, but no goose, unless Grey Goose vodka counts...

 

[Mike Krailo]

The last time I had fried turkey was at a crawfish boil in Virginia Beach at my friends house. Actually had multiple boils there previously, but in addition to the regular food in the boil, we would drop in an injected turkey (one of three) that would be fully cooked in about 45-55 minutes since the turkeys were dry and room temperature. When that turkey was set out on the table full of news papers and carved up, I never seen a bird disappear so quickly as people gathered around just picking pieces off the bird directly or from the carved portion. It was nothing but a carcass in less than 5 minutes and it's hard to compare the taste to any oven baked turkey. It's absolutely delicious done in peanut oil. There was an enormous amount of food that kept appearing on that table at regular intervals so that all the early goers and late comers all got fed really well. I miss those days a lot.

This year my wife and I went to someone else's place that smoked their turkey on the Traeger Grill. It was outstanding, but still not up to par with one of those fried turkeys. The funny thing was while we were eating dinner in the dining room, our dog (female German shorthair pointer) had access to the kitchen where the turkey was. You can guess what happened. She surgically removed the bottom part of one side of that turkey without making a sound. We hand no idea that she had done this until well after it happened. She never did anything like that before, but I guess the smell was irresistible.

 

[NauticalGent]

...that smoked their turkey...

I love the taste of smoked meat (another American "thing", I believe), however, some folks leave it on too long and the skin can get rubbery...

 

[Isaac]

Could be, but you know our history regarding adopting other's culture and claiming it as ours...

Silly NG! Every culture has assimilated other cultures from before, during and around it in order to make its unique mix.
Current opinion on the subject is astonishingly limited to seeing the spectrum of time based only on the last few hundred years.

500 years from now, if US exists, people will finally acknowledge a legitimate US "culture". but we got it from elsewhere, of course.

500 years after 500 years before the US colonized north america, people are making the opposite mistake. Seeing the most recently developing cultures as illegitimate, while seeing the older cultures (who are about equally a mixture of taking and mixing) as legitimate.

Same thing I say about climate change. If only we knew where we were on the spectrum or in the cycles........we could speak more authoritatively.
But I find no excuse for failing to understand we ARE somewhere on that spectrum. It exists, and the bigger we fail to measure the whole spectrum, the more off-base our conclusions will be. (said in general, not to you NG).

The only cultures that have a bit more claim to cultural legitimacy are the first ones to ever exist.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

And here it is, a year later and it is again Thanksgiving day in the USA (and one year to the day since Isaac's last post.) The world has changed in some ways, not so much in other ways. There is a tentative cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah, which is a good thing. The USA Progressive Liberal movement took a serious hit, which I think is also a good thing. Some of it seems to be echoing in the E.U. which is at least interesting, and which doesn't bode well for immigrants. The USA's favorite Cackle Jackal is no longer in power and in the aftermath has proved her uselessness to all and sundry. The money mismanagement of the Democrats during this campaign is out there for all to see, which cannot hurt future elections. The layoffs of union workers with the Democratic organization has given "big labor" pause. Change is in the air. So the USA has some things for which thanks are in order.

As to my family, we are mostly well other than both getting up in years. My sweetie's feet are acting up a bit. I'm still doing OK, just slower than I used to be by a small margin. My step-daughter re-married and through that marriage we now have a new (adult) granddaughter. A few deaths in the family, a few births... and life goes on. We finally got our new driveway poured and are about two weeks away from our new fence, both having needed replacement for some time since they were both nearly 40 years old and becoming more than a bit decrepit. (I've already admitted that much about myself, except I'm 76.)

We appreciate what we have and what we have done. And maybe that low-key statement is appropriate for this year's Thanksgiving. Our dinner attendees today will be me and my wife plus two friends who otherwise would be alone on this holiday that isn't about being alone. The "brood" will come for Christmas dinner this year. Today, we will have our share of entrees and desserts. We will probably have food comas in the afternoon. Our celebration will not be boisterous and excited, but rather will express contentment and another year of survival. Maybe a couple of centuries ago, the original Thanksgiving celebrations were no more than that.

Earlier in this thread, there was some mention of deep-fried turkey. This year, my sweetie and I will serve a roasted turkey but with a trick that my brother-in-law told us a few years ago. Our "big bird" gets cooked in an aluminum "Dutch oven" with the breast side down. Cooked overnight at about 225 to 250 degrees F. We never have to carve the turkey because you can take it apart with lightweight tongs. It completely falls apart and the breast stays moist because all of the juices follow gravity and go down towards the breast. With the moisture that is in the things cooked inside of the turkey (apples, celery, onions, etc.), the bird ends up nearly floating in juices. It is probably too late for anyone to cook their bird that way, but save the thought for the next time you would normally roast a turkey.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all, even if today is nothing special for the non-USA members of the forum.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

Happy Thanksgiving Doc. The other day, hubby smoked our turkey, it was awesome. Your method of cooking a turkey sounds interesting.

 

[Isaac]

And here it is, a year later and it is again Thanksgiving day in the USA (and one year to the day since Isaac's last post.) The world has changed in some ways, not so much in other ways. There is a tentative cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah, which is a good thing. The USA Progressive Liberal movement took a serious hit, which I think is also a good thing. Some of it seems to be echoing in the E.U. which is at least interesting, and which doesn't bode well for immigrants. The USA's favorite Cackle Jackal is no longer in power and in the aftermath has proved her uselessness to all and sundry. The money mismanagement of the Democrats during this campaign is out there for all to see, which cannot hurt future elections. The layoffs of union workers with the Democratic organization has given "big labor" pause. Change is in the air. So the USA has some things for which thanks are in order.

As to my family, we are mostly well other than both getting up in years. My sweetie's feet are acting up a bit. I'm still doing OK, just slower than I used to be by a small margin. My step-daughter re-married and through that marriage we now have a new (adult) granddaughter. A few deaths in the family, a few births... and life goes on. We finally got our new driveway poured and are about two weeks away from our new fence, both having needed replacement for some time since they were both nearly 40 years old and becoming more than a bit decrepit. (I've already admitted that much about myself, except I'm 76.)

We appreciate what we have and what we have done. And maybe that low-key statement is appropriate for this year's Thanksgiving. Our dinner attendees today will be me and my wife plus two friends who otherwise would be alone on this holiday that isn't about being alone. The "brood" will come for Christmas dinner this year. Today, we will have our share of entrees and desserts. We will probably have food comas in the afternoon. Our celebration will not be boisterous and excited, but rather will express contentment and another year of survival. Maybe a couple of centuries ago, the original Thanksgiving celebrations were no more than that.

Earlier in this thread, there was some mention of deep-fried turkey. This year, my sweetie and I will serve a roasted turkey but with a trick that my brother-in-law told us a few years ago. Our "big bird" gets cooked in an aluminum "Dutch oven" with the breast side down. Cooked overnight at about 225 to 250 degrees F. We never have to carve the turkey because you can take it apart with lightweight tongs. It completely falls apart and the breast stays moist because all of the juices follow gravity and go down towards the breast. With the moisture that is in the things cooked inside of the turkey (apples, celery, onions, etc.), the bird ends up nearly floating in juices. It is probably too late for anyone to cook their bird that way, but save the thought for the next time you would normally roast a turkey.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all, even if today is nothing special for the non-USA members of the forum.

Pretty good synopsis of the State of affairs! Glad you guys are doing all right and I know what you mean about the non-boisterous halfway serious and all the way content/grateful atmosphere. Life is a real thing and I am glad to have survived that which I hope is the halfway point.