Hi, I am from Auckland NZ. I am self taught in MS Access and a little bit of VBA in excel. SQL is another mystery that I have dabbled on but only when I have to. So I often struggle with the correct terms and syntax but normally get there in the end. I have generally used the old sledge hammer to crack a walnut and some of my databases would be very ugly for an expert to look at, but they work. I have used this forum for a few years and others to solve problems and find solutions. Normally my problems have already been asked and solved by someone else. Whilst I lose lots of hours figuring things out the end results can be very satisfying.