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Mike Krailo

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Well this is pretty big news here in the US tonight. Apparently, Politico has gotten a hold of a leaked preliminary decision on overturning the infamous Roe v. Wade decision. Hope they find the leaker and disbarr them immediately.
 

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What I fear is that women won't stop getting abortions but they will now have to leave the country or find someone with a back-alley coat-hanger. I know that sounds brutal, but that brutality would be the effect of overturning Roe v Wade.
 

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The greater point in this is how the courts have been severely undermined today with the act of that leaker. There has not been a ruling, it's all just an attempt to undermine the highest court in the land.
 

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I can't say you are wrong about that.
 

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What I fear is that women won't stop getting abortions but they will now have to leave the country or find someone with a back-alley coat-hanger. I know that sounds brutal, but that brutality would be the effect of overturning Roe v Wade.
What it will do is put the decision back at the state level where it belongs. Not sure if that is good or bad, but it should never have been a federal issue
 

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Listen to Alan Dershowitz at the (approximate) 3 minute mark.
Should Roe v. Wade be overturned, it simply restores abortion law to state jurisdiction. There is no "right" to abortion in the US Constitution (federal level).

A sub-theme to pay attention to as this story unfolds. Will the person who leaked be treated as a "hero" by the those on the political left?
Those on the political left have a propensity to claim that the "ends justify the means", which would justify breaking the law in this case to achieve a political objective favorable to the left.
 
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Mark Levin just concluded a fantastic analysis of the leak at a more holistic level. Essentially, this leak is one more example of the left purposely undermining the integrity of US institutions. Video now available below.
(One spiffy buzz word Mark used: "situational ethics". Another word within the context of the meaning of "the ends justify the means".)

 
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Biden has issued a statement. Assuming that the article below is complete, Biden has not condemned this unethical action. Once again, Biden resorts to "situational ethics" where this unethical leak, is turned into a (faux) "just call" to change the law to "protect women" as if the proposed decision would take away women's rights. The reality is that this simply, under the 10th Amendment, restores the power of state to make the abortion decision. Assuming that Biden really believes in the rule-of-law, he should be condemning this leak.

Biden just waxed eloquently (sarcasm) about the women's right to choose mentioning some parts of the Constitution. Ignored, the 10th Amendment which limits the federal government's ability to make laws laws. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." Again, Biden did not condemn the leakier and demonstrated little regard for the 10th Amendment.
 
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There is only one reason why this story was leaked and that is because the leaker wants to start riots. When this person is discovered his moronic followers would designate him a hero and the same sites that wouldn't let you contribute to the
Canadian truckers will be accepting donations.
 

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Why do you think the leaker will be discovered? Who is going to do the investigation? Certainly not the DOJ. How about the FBI? Both are fully woke and follow the wishes of the left. That didn't stop when Trump was President and in theory, their boss. The FBI spied on Trump even after he was president while they lied to the FISA court and the DOJ persecuted Trump supporters and Trump was helpless to control them.

If Trump is elected in 2024, he needs to disband the FBI. Separate its useful functions and move them to the US Marshalls service which hasn't been totally corrupted yet. Getting rid of the DOJ is a much bigger problem but Trump needs an AG who can make them follow the Constitution and prosecute crimes regardless of who committed them.
 

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Instead of raising our taxes, how about creating more tax payers?
 

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Instead of raising our taxes, how about creating more tax payers?
Interesting thought. You do have an ambiguity. By creating more tax payers do you mean adding existing working people who don't pay taxes back-into the pool of people paying taxes?

As the alternative, consider reducing government spending. As a sidenote, the environment. More people means more evil global warming.
 

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By creating more tax payers do you mean adding existing working people who don't pay taxes back-into the pool of people paying taxes?
No, I was going for simplicity. Just add more natural born citizens. Which increases the likelihood that one of them comes up with the cure for cancer, or makes an even better rocket engine than Musk did. Instead, the choice has been to let millions of foreigners to come in and not pay any taxes. What kind of deal is that?
 

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What kind of deal is that?
Not a very good deal. As you mentioned, they won't be paying taxes, but they will consume tax $$$$. The Biden administration wants an underclass dependent on government welfare.
 

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An interesting Newspeak word play that I had not pick-up on. Fox News is reporting that Democrats do not acknowledge that the draft decision was leaked. Instead, Democrats simply refer to it as a "report", as if it was released through normal channels.

Following-up on that concept, Biden is not condemning the person who leaked the draft decision. Recall how consumed Biden was with anger and vitriolic animation when a border control agent, on horseback, "whipped" (a false accusation) a Haitian illegal immigrant. That evil border control agent will pay, vowed Biden with great solemnity. Now, the integrity of the Supreme Court has been compromised, Biden is silent. As previously stated, Biden simply calls the leaked draft decision, a "report" as if no wrong occurred. Once again Biden resorts to slippery "situational ethics" to deflect from the issue that an unethical act occured with the release of the draft decision.
 

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On the other hand, Chief Justice Roberts is quite angry and ready to open a massive investigation. He's apparently quite pissed because he sees it as an attempt to undercut the authority of SCOTUS.
 

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the other hand, Chief Justice Roberts is quite angry and ready to open a massive investigation. He's apparently quite pissed because he sees it as an attempt to undercut the authority of SCOTUS.
It is an attempt to undercut the authority. He's already assigned someone to look into it
 

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Somebody's clerk is about to lose the most prestigious early job they ever held.
 

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