I am trying to create a hotkey to navigate users from a sub-subform to the subform and enter a new record. I have tried using goto control and goto record, but both end up in errors. The problem is that Access says the subform is closed or the control i am identifying doesn't exist. Any thoughts on how to do this. I am trying to keep users from having to leave the keyboard and mouse to a new record in the subform. thanks for any suggestions.