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The goal of the Democrats was to keep the black population trapped in poverty in the inner cities. An unanticipated side effect of Johnson's programs was to separate the father from the family which was disastrous. We know this but for whatever reason, we haven't fixed it.

Sadly, the inner city blacks elected their own to manage their cities and those people were owned by their white Democrat overlords and let the citizens down by making endless empty promises. Just elect us one more time. We're almost there. We'll fix it next term. But it never happens and Johnny can't read and he can't do math and he is totally useless for most gainful employment so he runs drugs for a criminal.
 

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The article above neglects that the judge (Juan Merchan) was preventing Costello from explaining that the prosecution's case was flawed. The defense is entitled to assert that the law is being abused (lawfare) to falsely charge the defendant.

You can skip the first six (6) minutes of Dershowitz's podcast below. The portion relevant to the judge denying Trump the ability to put on a defense begins at the fourteen (14) minute mark. Dershowitz remarks at the eighteen (18) minute mark that the Merchan can't simply strike the testimony of a defense witness because he doesn't like the way the defense attorney acted.


 
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Go Trump! 58% of the country supports you, and growing every day. More and more people who voted for Biden now say they regret doing so
 

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Based on media reporting, it appears that the basis for Bragg's indictment is mischaracterization of the payment made to Stormy Daniels as a "legal expense". Identifying the payment as a "legal expense" seems legitimate as part of the overall legal process in preparing and executing the Non-Disclosure agreement.

Additionally, many have also raised the very legitimate points that there is no victim. The implication here is: What is the point of prosecuting?
Read the law.
 

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How many jurisdictions and prosecutors passed on pursuing this possible infraction? It took Trump running again and leading in the polls for this non-crime to be pulled out of the hat and persecuted. prosecuted.
 

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Read the law.
Please provide what you consider the relevant text. Note that H. Clinton claimed that the Russia collusion hoax was a "legal expense". Her campaign only received a nominal fine. She was not charged with XXX felonies. Dual justice once again.

In terms of reading the law, numerous legal experts have documented that the law is being abused and misconstrued by Bragg to implement a political hit job to torpedo Trump's campaign. Also look at all the other failed attempts, like the 14th Amendment case, to sabotage Trump's reelection efforts. Dual justice once again.
 

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Her campaign only received a nominal fine.
Her campaign received a fine of $100,000. She, personally was fined $6,000.

Obama was assessed a 2 million dollar fine. Why were they not prosecuted? Your one-sided "justice" will be the death of America as we know it.
 
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Biden broke the law regarding classified documents, but in a country where no one is above the law, he is above the law. He wasn't prosecuted.
 

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Biden broke the law regarding classified documents, but in a country where no one is above the law, he is above the law. He wasn't prosecuted.
His son is above the law as are Clinton, Obama, and every other non Trump supporter. Biden is actively committing treason and he is never going to be prosecuted.
 

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I'm waiting sadly for 50 people to do something stupid around the Trump Indictment courthouse so we can endlessly hear a Big Lie about April 6th (or whatever) as opposed to January 6th.

Meanwhile, 50 other people - people who have actually hurt, maimed, stabbed, shot, robbed someone - will be walking OUT of the same jail after no-bail or downgraded charges or declined charges, because "It's equity, dude!" or "They were wrong, but I understand why they are angry and hurting", etc.

To quote libbish media, "Watch this space"
How can it be a lie. Evidence was sent to a Grand Jury and they, regular people, voted to indict.
 

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You are ASSUMING that Trump is guilty. That isn't how things work in the US and probably not in the UK either. By your logic, if I accuse you of raping me in a department store dressing room 20 years ago on some non specific date, you are automatically guilty? Using that method, the first candidate who makes an accusation becomes the de facto winner because he takes out his opponent immediately simply by making an accusation that can't immediately be proven to be false????? Great tactic:poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop:

Republicans who refuse to defend Trump who is being accused of some non-crime simply to interfere with his ability to run for President should all be called out by name because if they won't defend Trump, they won't defend "you" who are nothing in the greater scheme of things. Isn't that election interference on top of other crimes? I'm looking forward to the day when the prosecutor is disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct.
I will not quit shaving till that happens. The Grand Jury voted to indict. You mean that the left was able to get all the folks on the grand jury. That is how thibg have always worked.
 

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His son is above the law as are Clinton, Obama, and every other non Trump supporter. Biden is actively committing treason and he is never going to be prosecuted.
How is Biden comitting treason? Real proof, not supposotion. And BTW, the Deadly Force document is included in all searches. The document actually restricts the use of deadly force. And the FBI agents always carry guns.
 

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I will not quit shaving till that happens. The Grand Jury voted to indict. You mean that the left was able to get all the folks on the grand jury. That is how thibg have always worked.
As everyone points out - you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Doesn't make the sandwich guilty of anything.

The grand jury process is designed to get an indictment. The accused has no representation and the prosecution can hide exculpatory evidence. All of that is being revealed by the judge in the Florida case (documents).
 

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Real proof, not supposotion.
How about allowing multiple Chinese "weather" balloons to traverse key military and infrastructure installations across the US? From a military's perspective, you can see a lot from a satellite in orbit but nothing beats a slow moving "weather" balloon for capturing high res pictures. We're lucky the balloons didn't drop the next coronavirus on us.
 

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As everyone points out - you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Doesn't make the sandwich guilty of anything.

The grand jury process is designed to get an indictment. The accused has no representation and the prosecution can hide exculpatory evidence. All of that is being revealed by the judge in the Florida case (documents).
A person charged has the right to appear before a grand jury. So how is the jury set up to indict every time? What about baloney sandwiches, I hear they are very sneaky.
 

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A person charged has the right to appear before a grand jury.
Wrong.
The accused does not have the right to appear before the grand jury and contest evidence brought by the prosecutor.
Moreover:
Unlike most other court proceedings, grand jury proceedings take place in secret, ...
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Even worse, in terms of the maniacal Trump derangement syndrome that tortures the law to get Trump: Trump was essentially a victim of a "Bill of Attainder" which is unconstitutional. This is also similar to Bragg (illegally) reactivating a misdemeanor for the sole purpose of getting Trump.
The law opened a one-time window for adult sexual assault survivors in New York to file a civil case against an abuser or institution that protected the abuser — no matter when the assault took place, even if it’s outside the statute of limitations. But that window expires in six months.
 
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I posted this on another thread:

His crime was being a threat to both parties and the status quo. I do not know enough about the case (by design) to argue for or against the ruling. What I do know is that this is inconsistent with other past Presidents - doesn't mean he should be let off the hook is there is evidence of wrong doing.

But the reason this went down the way it went down is because he is a threat - no more, no less. He is popular and the American public wants him. Were he allowed to run, he would win. To steal the election this time would be too obvious and difficult to cover-up.

This is what happens when you don't toe the line and sing the company song. He is lucky he hasn't met an unfortunate accident - yet.
 

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This is crazy, no one seems to be able to articulate the actual crime that elevates this to a felony. That is very troubling. That makes the entire trial and court system in NY totally corrupt.
 

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