Are you an atheist?

[Frothingslosh]

not going to get in a food fight with you Frothy.

Blade

Then drop my last sentence. All you're doing is dodging the question.

If someone explicitly does not believe Satan exists, how is it conceivably possible for them to have sworn allegiance to them?

 

[Bladerunner]

When you say something like this it is so unfathomably insulting that you cannot possibly have any emotional connection to your words.

You come across as an insufferable know it all who hasn't (unable?) experienced the hurt that such rhetoric causes.

I am sorry you feel that way..This has nothing to with insults. You just don't want to hear it. God actually threw Satan out of heaven and gave him this earth to rule. If you do not believe in God, then you obviously (aware of it or not) are siding with Satan. It is that simple.

If rhetoric (why so cryptic) hurt someone, that I too have feelings for that person but there are a lot of people out there that have the same amount or more pain than we are speaking of here. Yet, they turn to God for Comfort. They move on never forgetting the pain, but move on.

If you do not move on, you will wallow in hatred and anger because this is what Satan wants.

Look, I have said it before, your sins have been paid for by Blood. All you have to do is ask him to help you. He will know what is in your heart? so don't try to deceive him.

Don't worry about all those things that have evidently told to you by the Local Church....things that you have to do to get to heaven........
.

All you have to do is ASK......anywhere, anytime..It is that simple.

Have a good day..
Blade

 

[AccessBlaster]

The level of Apostasy in the Local Churches today is unbelievable. They are addressed in the Bible and will be judged accordingly when the time comes.

Rhetoric- language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

This is a gotcha question!. What you want a Yes or a No.......?.

To be a false Prophet , Yes, is considered a sin!

have nice day

Blade

I get your passion, I'm suggesting a little less fire and brimstone and a little more "good news". If people are going to Hell, no need to give them a push.

 

[Bladerunner]

Then drop my last sentence. All you're doing is dodging the question.

If someone explicitly does not believe Satan exists, how is it conceivably possible for them to have sworn allegiance to them?

Just because you do not believe in Satan or God, does not mean they aren't there.

Look, Frothy, it is alright with me, I do care or I would not be here taking these insults some of you throw out. But in the end it is really up to you...

I can tell you how simple it is, It is up to you to use that info or NOT? Your Choice!

Question: Why do you keep trying to debunk my views, attitude instead of the addressing the Bible?

Does not make sense.......If you destroy me, you destroy my personal projection of faith, you still do not destroy the Bible. If you were to destroy the Bible, WELL NOW that would be something,,,would it not?

If you are not interested, quit asking questions?

If you just want to argue with me,..........

Blade

 

[Frothingslosh]

Your weaseling around the question still doesn't answer it: In what way is it conceivable that a person who literally does not believe an entity exists is knowingly and willingly swearing allegiance to that entity. Your argument that we agnostics and atheists have sworn allegiance to Satan makes as much sense as me saying you have sworn allegiance to Xenu and are part of the ongoing conspiracy to keep our souls polluted with thetans.

I have no interest in destroying you, nor have I ever tried. I haven't even told you that you will be tortured for eternity for daring to not agree with me, which you have done several times, along with accusing me of being evil, a traitor, a would-be murderer, that I've sworn my soul to demons, and the like.

The insults? I think you're willfully blind to reason, completely dishonest (you've lied repeatedly in this thread), and a racist (which I loathe with a holy passion), and after the crap you've said about me before, I'm long since done hiding it. But that said, my only goal here is to get you to start using your brain.

 

[Alc]

Your weaseling around the question still doesn't answer it: In what way is it conceivable that a person who literally does not believe an entity exists is knowingly and willingly swearing allegiance to that entity.

To be fair, he did say something about how you might be unknowingly siding with Satan. It still makes no sense, but he definitely didn't say it was being done knowingly.

The example you gave about Xenu is every bit as logical-yet-full-of-bulls&*t, but I doubt he'll see it as such.

 

[Frothingslosh]

To be fair, he did say something about how you might be unknowingly siding with Satan. It still makes no sense, but he definitely didn't say it was being done knowingly.

The example you gave about Xenu is every bit as logical-yet-full-of-bulls&*t, but I doubt he'll see it as such.

1) Fair enough.
2) Agreed.

 

[dan-cat]

I am sorry you feel that way..This has nothing to with insults. You just don't want to hear it. God actually threw Satan out of heaven and gave him this earth to rule. If you do not believe in God, then you obviously (aware of it or not) are siding with Satan. It is that simple.

Once you've pointed it out, they ARE aware of it. Not being aware has nothing to do with it being or not being an insult. Once we've gotten to the point of discussing the notion of insults, the issue of awareness is done. Awareness first, insult next. Do you understand that basic sequence of events? Is that simple enough for YOU to understand?

Your words cause emotional harm. Stop weaseling, as Froth says, and take responsibility for them.

 

[dan-cat]

Just because you do not believe in Satan or God, does not mean they aren't there.

I think I'll use this line the next time I miss a client's deadline. Just because I haven't delivered the work doesn't mean that it's not finished. Another line that has no practical value at all.

 

[Frothingslosh]

Just because you don't believe in the pussy troll Pillowpants doesn't mean he's not there.

 

[Bladerunner]

To be fair, he did say something about how you might be unknowingly siding with Satan. It still makes no sense, but he definitely didn't say it was being done knowingly.

The example you gave about Xenu is every bit as logical-yet-full-of-bulls&*t, but I doubt he'll see it as such.

Hi Alc......a new person on this thread at least to me. I ma also sorry you feel that way but what else is new on this thread.....lol


Did you see what I had said about EVE and the apple. She was lusting for it before she eat it. Now, they had been in the Eden for some time, walking with God and all of a sudden she is lusting for this apple?????. Only a higher power could force someone to do this without knowing it. While she got the blame, I have a feeling it was not really her fault. Of, course once she ate the apple, well......... it was the tree of knowledge.

Satan takes advantage of us when are at our weakest.

Rem, Satan would almost have the power of God himself.

p.s. one other thing. The Bible tells us that his restraint of Satan and Man happened 2000 years ago at the cross because the death of Jesus washed of all our sins, it cheated eternal death. In Revelations, it tell us that at the start of Daniels 70th week, God releases that restraint...over Satan and Man. Can you imagine the crime and other evil about to hit this world if as you would not say I am right?

Have a good day

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

I get your passion, I'm suggesting a little less fire and brimstone and a little more "good news". If people are going to Hell, no need to give them a push.

Thanks AB..... I am trying but people keep bringing it up. We can look to something happier, like the 1000 years in an immortal body on this earth.

Have a great day.

Blade.

 

[Alc]

Did you see what I had said about EVE and the apple. She was lusting for it before she eat it. Now, they had been in the Eden for some time, walking with God and all of a sudden she is lusting for this apple?????. Only a higher power could force someone to do this without knowing it.

It's been a while since Sunday school, but I thought it was suggested to her to eat it, as opposed to her suddenly "lusting for it"? Something about eat this and you'll have knowledge?

 

[Frothingslosh]

It's been a while since Sunday school, but I thought it was suggested to her to eat it, as opposed to her suddenly "lusting for it"? Something about eat this and you'll have knowledge?

Having her lust after it makes it easier to transfer full 'blame' for 'the Fall' onto her. That's quite important to those who buy into the most misogynistic parts of the Bible. I mean, she's already blamed for more evil than was Pandora, but for some, that's just not enough.

 

[Bladerunner]

It's been a while since Sunday school, but I thought it was suggested to her to eat it, as opposed to her suddenly "lusting for it"? Something about eat this and you'll have knowledge?

Alc ...oh you are right but ---welll... best to do is for you to read Genesis 3 preferably KJV,,,,,paying a special attention to Chapter 6, first sentence or two.

Have a good Day and thanks for Asking

Blade

 

[Alc]

Having her lust after it makes it easier to transfer full 'blame' for 'the Fall' onto her. That's quite important to those who buy into the most misogynistic parts of the Bible. I mean, she's already blamed for more evil than was Pandora, but for some, that's just not enough.

So is that what it actually says, that she all-of-a-sudden lusted after it, as opposed to seeing it for a while and being curious, then being coaxed into it by a serpent?

For the sake of argument, let's say that actually happened. There have been times when I - out of the blue - suddenly really fancy a particular food or drink. Is that always the devil causing my cravings?
If it isn't on at least some occasions, then that disproves the idea that it can only happen if the devil makes it so.
If it IS him doing it, what does he gain from making me want the odd ice cream? And they say God works in mysterious ways.

 

[Alc]

Alc ...oh you are right but ---welll... best to do is for you to read Genesis 3 preferably KJV,,,,,paying a special attention to Chapter 6, first sentence or two.

In which case it goes from a sudden intense craving for fresh fruit - which, in and of itself isn't proof of the Devil's existence - to seeing a piece of fruit on a daily basis and fancying a bite.

 

[Frothingslosh]

No, what it says is that the serpent told her it would give her knowledge, so she ate it and took some to Adam. The 'lusted after it' is just another lie from Bladerunner.

 

[Alc]

No, what it says is that the serpent told her it would give her knowledge, so she ate it and took some to Adam.

Now THAT I can believe. Whenever my wife feels like a piece of cake, I usually get bought one, so she can feel less guilty. Yet to happen with an apple, though

The 'lusted after it' is just another lie from Bladerunner.

Let's be nice and say 'exaggeration'. After all, he did admit the error.

 

[Frothingslosh]

Let's be nice and say 'exaggeration'. After all, he did admit the error.

I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Especially in regards to a consistent and long-standing pattern of behavior.