Trump vs Zelensky (1 Viewer)

Strength and confidence do not raise voices and wag fingers. What raises voices and wags fingers is weakness and vulnerability. Think of the people you know who, when there's a huge pile of chips in the centre of the table, lose their shit like Trump and Vance lost their shit. If a foreign head of state receives treatment like that on the home turf of the United States of America, think now of what an invitation to the oval office means to any other foreign head of state. This is what damage looks like, diplomatic damage on an enormous scale.

So I revise your statement as follows: They showed stunning weakness in a situation that needs strong people.
And what would you have done after you were lead to believe a deal was going to be signed? Hindsight is 20/20, so whatever you say doesn't mean much until you get thrown into a fiery situation like that.

You may perceive weakness, but weakness is getting your ass kicked in a never ending war IMHO.
 
Hopefully the EU will back Zelensky 100% militarily and financially, and they'll keep fighting or broker their own deal.

The only reason we got involved is because Ukraine had dirt on Hunter and the big guy.
 
Zelensky a hug and kiss where what he needs is a little spanking

I don't know much about him but I have read that he has blocked political opponents in various ways! He sounds a bit like another Putin...
 
Hopefully the EU will back Zelensky 100% militarily and financially, and they'll keep fighting or broker their own deal 😉
Saying your going to back them 100% and doing it for real are two different things.
 
Personally I would rather have Russia take over the EU and UK than the Muslims...

The Russians are after all European in nature ...
 
Nations used to reference this.
NATO’s position on Ukraine’s membership has often emphasized that continued anti-corruption efforts are essential for any potential accession, as it’s critical for ensuring that the country meets the alliance's democratic and institutional standards.
 
I agree 100% with this guy's take on the situation. If you don't have time to watch the whole thing, at least watch the last minute starting at 16:00 mark. The whole video is on point IMO.
 
And what would you have done after you were lead to believe a deal was going to be signed?
If I was president of the United States of America, and cameras were rolling, I would first of all demonstrate that there is a cool and steady hand at the rudder. Job #1. No other messaging comes close in value to that one, regardless of the situation, regardless of the deal currently on the table.

You may perceive weakness, but weakness is getting your ass kicked in a never ending war IMHO.
Is your argument here that the president did not look weak because someone else, IYHO, looks weaker? Pretty low standard that the president's conduct looks strong, as long as one person in the room looks weaker.
 
Hopefully the EU will back Zelensky 100% militarily and financially, and they'll keep fighting or broker their own deal.
This, because of a failure of what used to be American leadership of what used to be known as the 'Free World.'
 
This, because of a failure of what used to be American leadership of what used to be known as the 'Free World.'
Obama and Biden were weak, and it led to Russian aggression in Crimea and the current debacle.
 
"Your gambling with World War III" said the man who's gambling with World War III and bankrupted a Casino.
Okay I'll bite I'm just curious in a raw way. What in the world is a casino and bankruptcy have to do with this situation?

I've noticed just in general life that people seem to think that the term bankruptcy is overly much a negative zinger for whatever is being discussed. Bankruptcy protection is the smartest thing you can do for many businesses. And oftentimes is the only thing that allows them to become successful again it is just a tool like every other tool
 
This, because of a failure of what used to be American leadership of what used to be known as the 'Free World.'
You're saying you would rather that the United States do all the support? That that would have been more ideal?
 
Obama and Biden were weak, and it led to Russian aggression in Crimea and the current debacle.
That's very true and needs to be repeated.

So Trump got a little mad at someone. I think it's going to knock zielinski into common sense and a much more willingness to stop fighting and actually try negotiating for peace.

He can't win this war. Is it ever the right time to admit that, will it never ever be?
 
Okay I'll bite I'm just curious in a raw way. What in the world is a casino and bankruptcy have to do with this situation?

I've noticed just in general life that people seem to think that the term bankruptcy is overly much a negative zinger for whatever is being discussed. Bankruptcy protection is the smartest thing you can do for many businesses. And oftentimes is the only thing that allows them to become successful again it is just a tool like every other tool
He's clueless about running a business. Trump has over 500 businesses. Some make it, some don't. A gambling casino is a risky business. In Illinois, the beautiful Arlington Racecourse didn't make it. The Taj Mahal cost close to a billion dollars.
 
Let's face it the only reason for Trump's behaviour in effectively supporting Putin is to give legitimacy to his intentions to invade neighbouring countries (Greenland and Panama).
 
Yesterday's farcical Ukraine summit in London

It was as I said it would be, a total waste of time. All a publicity stunt for Starmer.
Banners outside announcing the "summit" on the 2nd March in London. Only a select few of the EU leaders, so all of those excluded now asking why. The so called meeting lasted less than two hours. To discuss a conflict running for over three years! What exactly could be sorted out in two hours? In fact all of the leaders will have spent longer getting there, or having the pat me on the back free meal afterwards, than they did chatting.

Waste of time and money and as I say just another publicity stunt for Starmer.
He did say during the election that it would be country first but what he actually meant was it would be Starmer first and his promotion.
Just as it was for Tony Bliar, Starmer is preparing for when Labour is removed from power at the next election. There is doubt that he's not bothered about the damage he does to the country, with immigration, Net Zero, inflation etc. As long as he's grifted his way into benefiting by the end of it.
 
Is your argument here that the president did not look weak because someone else, IYHO, looks weaker? Pretty low standard that the president's conduct looks strong, as long as one person in the room looks weaker.
No one cares about pin head democrat talking points anymore. We're after results, they are after sabotage of their political opposition and like to grasp at straws of perception in hopes the public will buy their BS. So what I see here is weak pathetic democrats whining about anything and everything to do about Trump. This was a very bad decision on Z's part. Good thing that the olive branch is still there for the taking.

The latest info that was not apparent right away, or even reported on, is that Zelensky talked to democrats just prior to this signing deal. Now what did they say to him? The trader democrats would rather have a never ending war and most likely suggested they should not sign the deal. Traitors.
 

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