Reducing foreign visa tech workers (2 Viewers)

[Isaac]

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/trump-mulls-adding-new-100000-fee-h-1b-visas-bloomberg-news-reports-2025-09-19/

India was the largest beneficiary of H-1B visas last year, accounting for 71% of approved beneficiaries

Go Trump. We need American filling those positions, not India

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Now if only we could convince students to stop taking useless courses like Gender Studies or Pre-Renaissance French Literature.

 

[Mark_]

Now if only we could convince students to stop taking useless courses like Gender Studies or Pre-Renaissance French Literature.

You would need to get state legislators and academics to stop pushing them. I've a feeling it would be easier to push urine back up a urethra!

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I've a feeling it would be easier to push urine back up a urethra!

Yeesh! Some mental images, you just can't un-see.

 

[MarkK]

India was the largest beneficiary

When smart people leave India, India is not a beneficiary,
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/us-h1b-visa-canada-benefits-1.7640068
Trump's move is a gift, but not to America.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Trump's move is a gift, but not to America.

That's because you don't understand the corruption of the h1b visa system. I've been party to this corruption but it was long ago and given I was cheating for a specific known person I didn't think anything much of it at the time. My team just wanted Azzie back. So, I did what I needed to do to get his visa approved.

The general cheating simply undercuts US wages. The companies advertise for positions that have very specific requirements but pay less than Americans would accept for the job specs. since no Americans will apply, it is OK to hire an h1b visa holder for $20.00 per hour even though you would have to pay an American at least $50. Also, the Indian companies scarf up all the visas and they lie about the credentials of the bodies they supply. A second way is to hire a consulting company to take over your entire IT department. This way the American company gets to import busloads of Indians and assign them to their employees and tell the employees if they don't train their Indian sidekick, they will not get the severance package. And the third way is to actually have the work done in India. This is the cheapest solution. When this was first started, American high tech workers were earning at least $25 per hour plus benefits but the off shore Indians were earning only about $3.00. Their wages have escalated substantially in the past 40 years but they are still substantially cheaper than American workers.

I used to get a kick out of the line that was never said out loud as the tech leaders like Bill Gates testified before Congress. "We can't get the American workers we need to do the job." ("at the price we want to pay")

 

[Isaac]

And the issue of having pure Indians in tech creates and begets more problems. Nepotism. For example, and I've worked in quite a few major corporate environments and the same I see it everywhere: Indians hire more Indians. There is a hiring preference and it's anti-American. You could be the best qualified data architect in the world, but if your name is Joe Blow and another candidate's name is Raj Baba, Raj is getting the job. I can't prove it but I've seen it over and over and over. As soon as they see an Indian (etc) name on the resume, there is a starting-out assumption that this person must know tech, even if they're terrible at articulating it.

This thing where tech in the USA is run by India must stop