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Nope. Only your extream right wind blinders make you see it that way. you are absolutely choosing to not get my points, and then you are blaming me for it. You literally brought up startups which have absolutely nothing to do with how much or how we should tax certain aspects of our society...

LOLOLOLOLOL you know, cause Trump is such a standup guy. Anyone but Trump.

Why do you think that the world's most successful investor believes in the ultra rich paying more taxes? And how do you feel about Gates buying up all that farm land?

To your first point, you are confusing capilism, with entrepreneurialism. We are not talking about small business, we are talking about the trillions that are controlled by a small group. Plus, there is plenty of evidence, in small business circles, that supports the theory that too much start...

I see, semantics are more important then the big picture. I'll try to make it more precise, scoring points like this is so e debate is obviously important. in the end I will have plenty of supporting evidence that my position is valid. Add to this, untaxed increases in wealth. You guys are...

What does I absolutely do mean?

Only on realized increases.

You are leaving out the increase in wealth. Which is not really taxed.

I absolutely do. But I imagine it has nothing to do with why you think I do. I would say would are going to have a very hard time wrapping your head around it. Having listened to the propaganda for so long. We'll see. I have been dreaming of this moment for 30 years.

Are you sure these chart include Capital Gains?

You are using metrics that have become obsolete in the last 40 years. Investment money supply is virtually infinite in our modern Global Economy. This is the part where all of you people that can't distinguish between Micro and Macro economics, have to rely on propaganda for answers. Government...

So, you do want me to look back and your home work for you. I'm working now, but I'll get to it. :rolleyes:

You missed my answer at least twice. Is it now my job to help you with your homework? :cool:

What are you referring too?

Spending is what keeps our economy going. By definition the economy is spending

The dynamics have changed. And that message is now a great big lie.

You missed the second part i hadn't written it yet.

But not as a percentage of their earnings. We have leaniant taxes on capital gains. The whole system is set up to reward investment income.

You guys carry the full load. Middle Class Folks supporting reduced taxes for the top class; is about the same as poor white cotton farmers going to war to support the rich folks right to own slaves. "So Billy Bob, how did it go at the Cotton Exchange"? "Well Darrel, not so good, the prices...

And a good answer it was. I just got through reading this entire thread. I was guilty of being as snarky as some of the other folks, for my part I apologize. I'm using this tablet. I'm going to get the laptop and explain the bases for my position. Stand by please.