A good summary of the current state of civilization

[Isaac]

Since the 1960s, the West has moved ever-leftwards. 'Equality' and ‘feelings’ are central to the New Religion that rejects all traditional values. Yet beneath the institutionally dominant ‘Left’ stews a growing and restless ‘Right’. How has this fractured situation come about? What will the future hold?

In The Past is a Future Country, the authors trace it back to the Industrial Revolution. Darwinian selection massively weakened, meaning that, for the first time in history, the selfish, sick and stupid could survive and reproduce, undermining our religious, group-oriented culture. Now the West is scourged by an epidemic of narcissists, competing to signal their individuality and moral superiority. But their ‘fight for equality’ is really a fight for self-promotion. Reflecting this runaway individualism, Westerners increasingly don’t have children, save for those who are genetically resistant to this onslaught ― the staunchly conservative and religious: the eventual inheritors of the earth.

But there is a dark storm brewing in the demographic data that the authors have analysed. There is a burgeoning growth in the population of exceptionally unintelligent and antisocial people that social welfare systems cannot sustain for much longer. The developed world will pass away, and the global population that depends on it will crash, in the greatest Malthusian Collapse of all time. Yet all is not lost. The authors show how a resistant class of intelligent, religious conservatives will band together to preserve enclaves of civilization that may survive most of the coming apocalypse, and from its ashes rebuild a new world: A Neo-Byzantium.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I understand your concern. Have you ever read Isaac Asimov's Foundation series? It is directly relevant to your comments and a masterpiece of an epic trilogy - but a huge investment in reading time.

 

[Steve R.]

It is unfortunate that "eugenics" has become an abhorrent word where anyone merely uttering that word results in a hysterical mob calling for that person's immediate lynching. No discussion allowed. Well we need a discussion.

Darwinian selection massively weakened, meaning that, for the first time in history, the selfish, sick and stupid could survive and reproduce, undermining our religious, group-oriented culture.

The demise of Darwinian natural selection resulting from improved living conditions and health is a justified concern. People who would otherwise die are able to pass down their genes. Some diseases are inherited, so we can -and should- keep those people alive, but we should also insisted that they do not pass their genes down. Diabetes would be one example.

Below is an article that covers diabetes. I'm not going to go into any detail, since my post would end-up being a book. Suffice it to say that diabetes is expensive and is expanding. Eugenics may be the viable solution.
Diabetes 2030: Insights from Yesterday, Today, and Future Trends.

Westerners increasingly don’t have children

The West is committing cultural suicide. It is also an example of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs in action. We don't need to have a lot of children to make-up for the ones who die because poop living conditions and poor medical care. The West has also "solved" the basic survival needs, so we are now concerned with higher needs such as self-actualization which results in pursing your own interests which minimizes the desire to have children.

There is a burgeoning growth in the population of exceptionally unintelligent and antisocial people that social welfare systems cannot sustain for much longer.

This is exactly what the Biden administration is implementing through "open borders", "dumbing down" of our educational system, and "equity" (ending meritocracy). Take a look at the Cloward–Piven strategy.

The authors show how a resistant class of intelligent, religious conservatives will band together to preserve enclaves of civilization that may survive most of the coming apocalypse, and from its ashes rebuild a new world: A Neo-Byzantium.

Did the authors, by any chance discuss the environment? For us to have a utopian world, assuming that one would be possible, there would be a need to limit the world's population. That is another claimed "repulsive" concept that is not allowed to be uttered. There is a book, called "Design with Nature". The book is actually about architecture, but the title makes for an exceptional environmental theme. Again, I won't get into another one of my endless tirades other than to say, that low population gives people more freedom and allows humans and the environment to be more symbiotic.

 

[Galaxiom]

The rise and fall of civilisations throughout history has largely been a process of creating extra wealth which allowed the stupid people to breed up until it collapses. This cycle goes back long before the industrial revolution.

However Isaac's notion of the religious being the superior people is nothing more than a a reflection of his bigoted prejudices and lack of perspective due to being immersed in a largely religious society.

In the last Australian census about 38% indicated no religion and the proportion is still growing. It was almost as large as all the Christian denominations combined and many of those indicating they were Christians are only notionally so. I don't see our society collapsing from it.

The biggest problem I see, especially with the US, is the stark separation between the haves and the have nots. People with nothing to lose do tend to become antisocial.

 

[Isaac]

It is unfortunate that "eugenics" has become an abhorrent word where anyone merely uttering that word results in a hysterical mob calling for that person's immediate lynching. No discussion allowed. Well we need a discussion.

The demise of Darwinian natural selection resulting from improved living conditions and health is a justified concern. People who would otherwise die are able to pass down their genes. Some diseases are inherited, so we can -and should- keep those people alive, but we should also insisted that they do not pass their genes down. Diabetes would be one example.

Below is an article that covers diabetes. I'm not going to go into any detail, since my post would end-up being a book. Suffice it to say that diabetes is expensive and is expanding. Eugenics may be the viable solution.
Diabetes 2030: Insights from Yesterday, Today, and Future Trends.

The West is committing cultural suicide. It is also an example of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs in action. We don't need to have a lot of children to make-up for the ones who die because poop living conditions and poor medical care. The West has also "solved" the basic survival needs, so we are now concerned with higher needs such as self-actualization which results in pursing your own interests which minimizes the desire to have children.

This is exactly what the Biden administration is implementing through "open borders", "dumbing down" of our educational system, and "equity" (ending meritocracy). Take a look at the Cloward–Piven strategy.

Did the authors, by any chance discuss the environment? For us to have a utopian world, assuming that one would be possible, there would be a need to limit the world's population. That is another claimed "repulsive" concept that is not allowed to be uttered. There is a book, called "Design with Nature". The book is actually about architecture, but the title makes for an exceptional environmental theme. Again, I won't get into another one of my endless tirades other than to say, that low population gives people more freedom and allows humans and the environment to be more symbiotic.

I just quoted a book summary of a book that I thought may be interesting, we'll see how it turns out if I read it. @The_Doc_Man I think I have a couple Asimov books on my shelf that I haven't read yet - may crack them open and check if they're in Foundation!