Attack on Israel (1 Viewer)

I watched as much of that video as I could, over half. But it drives home a point that Hamas is even more corrupt than anyone might have believed. They are piddling away international aid, destroying their own water infrastructure to make rockets. One would hope that they run out of that, too.
 
Hamas has always brutally sacrificed their own people by doing things like hiding themselves in hospitals and schools -a despicable behavior that forces those trying to eliminate the terrorists to go after hospitals and schools. Then they try to turn it around and blame Israel, for example.

Hamas needs to be exterminated with no mercy or negotiation. Then we can help educate the Palestinians to try to persuade them to STOP electing terrorists as their leaders, since it HURTS them a lot, hopefully they see that now without too much trouble..
 
The optics are BAD, but that does not implicitly imply that Biden would be anti-Israeli. Unfortunately, Biden has demonstrated by action that he is actually anti-Israeli and pro-Hamas, pro-Hezbollah, and pro-Iranian.
 
Biden's anti-Israeli policies are well known. Perhaps even infamous, in the most negative interpretation of that word.
 
Speaking of the attack on Israel (our thread's title), I ran across this interesting article:


It explains what Hamas is actually doing and fits in with the pro-Hamas college demonstrations.
 
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While I am known to show atheist tendencies, I have to say that religion has no lock on inflaming Man's inhumane traits. Politics and greed are also contributors. Also, total stubbornness is a big factor. I'll bet some folks are ready to ask me if I'm feeling well by not bashing religion - but I believe that in this case, religion is not a primary cause. This is one of those older factors that, in Germany in the early 20th century, was called Lebensraum - literally, room or space to live and (implied) to grow.

Despite it being a wise piece of advice, "live and let live" doesn't usually work very well because it seems to only take a short while for the "anger pot" to bubble over. Folks (like Hamas) can only live and let live for a while before they want more without regard for who would lose if they win. For them, it is the inability to see others as equally deserving people. Religion often tries with basic principles that should - but apparently do not - stick well with their congregations. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Hamas launched deadly rocket attacks, so Israel did unto them what they had done to Israel. Well, DUH! What did they expect?

Sadly, we have an inbred trait we got through evolution... call it "territoriality" or "tribalism" or pick another name. Our saurian ancestors needed a certain amount of territory to provide adequate food, so the thunder lizards defended that territory against intruders. Now we protect our territory (or try to) against all who are different. It would represent a big diversion for this thread but I believe a case could be made that at base, Americans object to illegal immigrants as an offshoot of this some inherited evolutionary factor - the protection of me and mine against thee and thine, which is another form of tribalism.
Putting the nice parts of religion aside, we have two tribes trying to kill each other off for possession of land, Sadly, one has such a deep belief that their god has promised them the land, that they will stop at nothing to acheive that goal in the name of their deity.

The Jews have a financial, and political hold, in the US, so the pressure is on the US to back Israel. The UK who should have brokered a two-state solution but were too weak to stand up to the US/Israeli demands and the US finally recognised the state of Israel with new boundaries. That was the reboot for the Israelis to restart their take-over of land, outside of their borders and it has remained that way since 1948.
Now, the Israelis have a monster at the helm who won't be happy until all the Palestinians are either dead or have fled to neighbouring countries, which would open up a new can of worms.

The inbred trait, you mentioned, was a natural part of the growth of civilisations. In the UK, settlers crossed the land-bridge from Europe around 10,000 and began settling down. The build homes, they build enclosures for their animals and, naturally, defended their space. It was, and still is, a necessary development in a peoples'

There is no doubt that once you create a deity that you can get permission from to do whatever you want, the trouble starts. All civilisations have done this, to a greater or lesser extent, during history; this is just the current one.
The world sits by and watches the main players, and profit from it.
 
That's a verysimplistic, and inaccurate, view of the history of the Middle East...
Sorry. The graphic is a summary of how events are playing-out. The attack on Israel was a violation of international law. The evidence demonstrates that Israel has been the victim of genocidal aggression. The Palestinians can end this conflict by releasing the hostages and surrendering. Peace can be achieved. Seems that they prefer martyrdom.
 
The Jews have a financial, and political hold, in the US, so the pressure is on the US to back Israel. The UK who should have brokered a two-state solution but were too weak to stand up to the US/Israeli demands and the US finally recognised the state of Israel with new boundaries.

In all cases that I recall, the peace deal - including two-state solutions - was rejected by Arab forces. The problem is that the Islamic demands include extermination of a whole people - the Jews. "From the river to the sea" says, essentially, no Jews can live. I'm sorry, but as long as Hamas has extermination of Jews as part of their charter, there is only one way to handle them and the IDF is doing it. Since Hamas uses civilians as human shields, it is clear that they don't care about the Gazans. The IDF drops leaflets and issues other warnings to get people to leave a potential strike zone. Which side is attempting to do the more humanitarian action?
 
That's a verysimplistic, and inaccurate, view of the history of the Middle East...

But not that far off regarding the way the news treats what Hamas is doing currently. Sometimes in the art of writing, eloquence and detail are appropriate. But sometimes brevity - along with a couple of pictures - can be FAR more effective as a means of communication.
 
Putting the nice parts of religion aside, we have two tribes trying to kill each other off for possession of land,
100% WRONG. The Muslims are intent on killing all Jews because the Qur'an tells them to convert or kill all who resist Islam. The Jews are defending themselves. They are currently trying to feed the civilians in Gaza while Hamas steals everything they can get their hands on so they can sell it to buy more bombs to kill Israeli civilians and they want their own civilians starving. You make comparisons where there are none. "From the river to the sea" is the Muslim chant which translates to kill all the Jews. They also want to kill or force Westerners to submit to Islam and they are succeeding. They've got you;)

You probably don't even know that in 1948 there was a two-state solution for less than 24 hours. What happened to that? Do you know? Egypt and Jordan killed it. What? Arabs killed "Palestine"????? There was also a two-state solution in 2003. What happened to that? Do you know? The people who call themselves "Palestinians" have proven themselves completely incapable of governing themselves.

You might want to read some history. Is it the Jews who treasure land and conquest? No, it is the Muslims. They have rampaged across Africa and Asia conquering and killing all who would not submit. Do the Jews do that? No. They don't even seek converts although they accept them.

The UN is a piece of dog doo. It is totally useless. You clearly have no clue what happened in 1948. You also have no clue what happened in 1967. Nor do you understand what happened in 2003.

The US supports Israel because Israel is on the right side of this war. Clearly you think murdering civilians. R***** women and taking hostages is "good" so you support the evil Hamas. You might want to look into your soul to try to root out the evil within.
 
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along with a couple of pictures
Especially when the pictures make you want to cry but are outright lies. You can never trust the NY Times again after that last picture of the "starving" child being held by his well fed mother. The retraction was on page 999999 and was seen by at least 2 people.
 
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Especially when the pictures make you want to cry but are outright lies. You can never trust the NY Times again after that last picture of the "starving" child being held by his well fed mother. The retraction was on page 999999 and was seen by at least 2 people.

Just for the record, Pat, the two pictures and the brevity to which I referred were in this thread, post #508.
 
Just for the record, Pat, the two pictures and the brevity to which I referred were in this thread, post #508.
Thanks Doc. The thread is too big to peruse each time we add something. And sadly, the NYT by always burying their lies is still read and revered by many. Personally, I can rarely get though the first paragraph of the first article I try to read because I keep tripping over purple words and opinions. If I want opinions, I know where to find them and they do not belong above the fold on the front page.
 
The Bible is certainly right about there being perpetual enmity between the descendants of Abraham versus Ishmael
 

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