Attack on Israel (2 Viewers)

[amorosik]

Your antisemitism is leaking through

Just some of the posts inside this 3d, where you call someone an anti-Semite:
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[Pat Hartman]

I believe that this massacre of defenseless people, which is merely the culmination of an inhumane policy of segregation, food deprivation, the impossibility of movement, the impossibility of hoping for a better life for their children than the one their parents had, will be remembered as a deep wound in the soul of the Israelis, a wound that will be impossible to heal

But you only believe this is a massacre because of your antisemitism. You can't see how Hamas attacked Israel and continues the attack constantly to the point where Israeli children near the borders can no longer play in the sunshine. They are relegated to underground bunkers due to the incessant bombing.

The Israeli attack in Doha was excellent. That is the way to stop the war dead. Decapitate the leadership. If the Israelis had better intelligence, they would do the same thing in Gaza. They got the intended targets with limited non-combatant casualties. Go in in small groups and target specific leadership figures. But they don't have sufficiently good intel so they have to resort to bombing.

But I don't think you can teach anything about these topics.

But you could since you don't know who the attacker is. You don't know the Palestinian policy is to kill all the Jews. Not make peace. Not live side by side. KILL ALL THE JEWS so they can take the land "from the river to the sea" for themselves and not allow any Jews to live there.

I would hope the Israeli people would break away from this racist and criminal vision, but I'm not sure that the indoctrination they are subjected to males and females from an early age, can enable them to develop feelings of peaceful coexistence with other populations of the world

OMG. You really know nothing. It is the Palestinians who teach their children to count by counting dead Jews. You also don't know that Gaza has been "free" since ~2004 and in those 20+ years have they made Gaza a thriving city? No!!!!!!!!!!! They have spent all their money on building bombs and attacking Israel. They even dug up the water pipes to use them to make bombs. Then Hamas tells the world that Gaza residents don't have adequate water

Keep your blinders on if it makes you feel good. But you are supporting terrorists.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Just some of the posts inside this 3d, where you call someone an anti-Semite:

When you hate the Jews because they are Jews and have no understanding of the issue, you are antisemitic. When you say that Israel should stop the war but never say a word about the atrocities committed by Hamas, you are antisemitic. The Israelis are not the attackers. They are the attacked. They did not cause the issue. They are defending themselves. When you insist that the Jews not defend themselves, it is your antisemitism showing. The Jews are fighting for their very existence and you think they should stop fighting and the Muslims can just keep lobbing bombs on them until all the Jews are dead. That is what the people you support are aiming for. Why are the Palestinians never accused of genocide? They're the ones chanting "death to America", "death to the Jews". "From the river to the sea Palestine must be free". Seems like you've attached yourself to the genocidal maniacs if you ask me.

And, you flatly refuse to educate yourself on the issues. OK.

 

[Steve R.]

Trump has potentially set the groundwork for peace concerning Israel vs. the Palestinians. Evidently, there are some still pushing a pro-Palestinian narrative to eliminate Israel. Keeping the genocidal chant of "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free". Now, I have no idea of who the woman is or when this was originally posted, but it bodes ill as it implies that the Palestinians will continue to promote conflict to eliminate Israel instead of recognizing Israel's right to exist and seeking peace.

If this "X" (Twitter) post was done after Trump's peace deal, it is surprising that there is no acknowledgement of that fact by nadaa01012, which further implies that the Palestinians do not want peace.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1978364202835132766

 

[The_Doc_Man]

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" should be counter-chanted with "From the sea to the river, Hamas should now quiver."

 

[amorosik]

The Israeli attack in Doha was excellent

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[amorosik]

... it is your antisemitism showing....

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[Pat Hartman]

No word

Why not? It was precise. Civilian causalities were limited and it achieved its goal.

Please explain in small words how this action was any different from Obama's action to take out Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan where he was hiding out under the protection of the Pakistani government? Is the Doha attack bad because you hate the Jews? I'm pretty sure you don't hate Obama.

In fact, taking out Bin Laden was the only good thing that Obama did during his 8 years on the throne. Bush never succeeded because he always played by the rules and informed our "allies" of his attacks so they all failed. Obama did not inform our "ally" Pakistan and so his attack succeeded.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

was the only good thing that Obama did during his 8 years on the throne

Not so. He left when his term ran out. DJT lingered until he saw that it was a fight he couldn't win, so HE left office at the right time too. (The prior sentence was for those who still harp on Jan. 6th issues.)

 

[moke123]

The Israeli attack in Doha was excellent.

Axios disagrees.

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/16/israel-qatar-strike-failed-hamas-survive

 

[Pat Hartman]

You do love your "fact" checkers. But please explain how Obama's attack on Bin Laden differs from Netanyahu's attack on the Hamas leadership. I don't care what Axios thinks. I care what YOU think. Are you capable of making a comparison of the two events and coming to your own conclusion?

Both attacks were against terrorists being sheltered in a Muslim country. One attack was committed by the "big Satan" and the other was committed by the "small Satan". Both attacks succeeded because no "allies" were informed of the plans. Both attacks succeeded because they took out the intended target(s) and both attacks caused minimal colleterial damage given that they were both technically "acts of war" against the host country.

So, if you approve of Obama's action, why do you disapprove of Netanyahu's action? Or, maybe you don't approve of Obama's action. I'd like to know. But I'd prefer YOUR opinion rather than Axios' opinion.

Axios seems to think that Netanyahu works for Trump. Trump seems to think that also. Wow!! Does Axios actually agree with Trump that Netanyahu works for him and should have asked permission for the attack? Who knew? Axios is also lying about the success of the attack. I say "lying" because that is what "we" always call a difference of opinion in this thread.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Not so.

What do you call Obama's collusion with the Clinton campaign to defeat Trump (re the Steel dossier) in the election and then later to cripple Trump's administration? Some of those people responsible are now being taken to task for their attempts at a soft coup d'etat.

 

[amorosik]

Why not?

When a country sends bombs onto another country's territory with the express intent of killing a delegation presumably considering ceasefire proposals, it seems clear to me that the aggressor is not only behaving like a "terrorist state" cowardly hiding behind the brutal power of superior weaponry, but more importantly, by attempting to sabotage potential negotiations, it is making its true intent known to the entire world
And for those blind enough to fail to see it, the real intent is NOT to arrive at a peace without armed conflict
The land, they want the Palestinians' land

 

[Isaac]

They were used as shields. Israel warns civilians .

That is such a tired and over used trope about using as shields. Sure, everybody does that to some extent.
Israel's response has been excessive and that's not even the word for it, I can't think of hyperbole that could possibly fit what Isreal has been doing that everyone saw, unless you just buried your head in the sand and didn't want to know, which a LOT of Americans have been doing.

And after every apartment complex and hospital bombed, "Well, I think we got a Hamas person in there too" -
really despicable.

 

[Pat Hartman]

That's your opinion and you're stickin' too it. But it is only an opinion and has no relevance to the point I was making. Can you address my comparison to Obama's raid in Pakistan? Why is it OK when Obama does it but not when Israel does it?

The land, they want the Palestinians' land

I hate to state the obvious but since you are blind to it, I will. Israel has a far superior military to anything the Palestinians can muster. Israel could have taken Gaza at any time they wanted. We won't even discuss the fact that Israel withdrew completely from Gaza 20+ years ago so Gaza has been free since that time no matter what the stupid people marching in kufiyahs are chanting.

 

[BlueSpruce]

Can you address my comparison to Obama's raid in Pakistan? Why is it OK when Obama does it but not when Israel does it?

Obama didn't order the slaughter of 65,000+ civilians to take out Bin Laden. Netanyahu had that many civilians killed and carpet bombed entire cities just to take out a couple thousand Hamas goons.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Jon told me that I could do this. It is time to freeze a couple of threads. The rhetoric is heating up again and I am asking you to understand that I am acting to protect the forum from issues of the U.K.'s Online Safety Act.

This thread is closed for a week. Cool it, people.