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Our news doesn't give us anything worthy on this.
I was really interested in this, and I was looking forward to see what others have to say.
But it seems now that there is evidences and proofs, no one engages.
I was really interested in this, and I was looking forward to see what others have to say.
But it seems now that there is evidences and proofs, no one engages.
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I don't know if what I read on different sites is true or not.
Is the following statement from this site true? Did he really admit?
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Of course you are correct, but CNN msnbc ABC and all the other acronyms are not immune to the same criticism. It's the nature of politics. It's reminds me of the many fact checkers who suddenly went dormant over the last year or so.
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only on fox, in fact they wanted their fact checkers fired.
That is a false equivalency, and a deflection. That's like saying that we know Joe robbed a bank, but look at all the other crooks, they may have robbed a bank too , so Joe is really not that bad. When I was young, network News was a public service, not a profit center, and frankly, then you could trust the news. I agree that each network has its biases, but I think Fox went over the line by lying when they knew it was a lie. And from court filings. that is irrefutable. Plus, the "Proof" of the Big Lie was a woman who time traveled in the wind, or something, and voter fraud was revealed to her. There was no fraud. 60 cases were thrown out of court. But the real proof , and the solution to the mystery of the Sphinx, is in Hunter Biden,s laptop. I feel like I am living in Munich in 1933.Of course you are correct, but CNN msnbc ABC and all the other acronyms are not immune to the same criticism. It's the nature of politics. It's reminds me of the many fact checkers who suddenly went dormant over the last year or so.
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That is all I'm trying to understand. Most news sites I visit, read as :
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When everybody says it was a lie, to me it means that it's proved there was no fraud in election.
Is it proved for sure?
Where is the proof that there was fraud?, There is none. Just saying there was, does not make it true. Rupert admitted it in court. And, as I said, 60 times lawyers went to court with claims that there was corruption in the election. And since you can't lie in court, and they had no real evidence. the cases were thrown out. And a lot of the judges doing the throwing, were appointed by Trump. The way a despot comes to power is by creating and internal enemy, now days it's the Woke folk, and immigrants. Unless you are a Native American, then your ancestors came from someplace else, so now we should slam the door? I am not saying we should open the borders.
I don't know. I just thought when there's a doubt, there may be a possibility.
I think you answered all my question. If he admitted it, I'm convinced.
As I said earlier, Our news channels are not interested in what's happening in US. So we hear a little about what's going on there.I also couldn't trust what I see in different sites.
I just needed a confirmation from someone who lives there.
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Take your COVID mask off your eyes. There is lots of proof. You just have to actually look at it. If you refuse to look at it, then you are believing the lying media who has exhibited no proof. They just repeat the mantra that Trump is lying and we're supposed to believe them.
The movie 2000 mules documents one facet of the fraud in one city. Watch it. How many ballots can one person cast. Why does he have to keep going back to DNC headquarters to get more all through the night? This fraud happened in multiple cities and in others, there was different types of fraud. Most of the fraud is around mail in ballots. We see workers, in the middle of the night, feeding the same batch of ballots through the scanner multiple times. Don't believe you lyin' eyes about that one either.
Trump lost this election by a very small number of votes (~ 20,000) in a very small number of cities to a man who never left his basement and when he did drew crowds of 10's compared to the crowds of thousands every time Trump went out. Did anyone make a parade for Joe? No, they rioted and burned down businesses and killed cops in an attempt to terrify the country that things would be even worse if Trump won. Trump's supporters drove cars and boats and marched and waved American flags. Lawsuits were not dismissed due to lack of evidence. The evidence was only reviewed by a few courts. Those suits proceeded and fraud was proven in the majority of the cases. The other suits were dismissed due to lack of standing. You filed too soon, you filed too late, you were not personally harmed by the fraud, etc. Judges knew they would be harrassed the way the Supreme Court Justices were over Roe v Wade and were not willing to risk their families and their property to the mob if they found sufficient fraud to overturn the election. They were either too weak and terrified to accept the case or they hated the evil orange man and didn't want to take a chance of having to rule in his favor. Of course, no single suit was going to be enough because multiple wins were required to convert enough electors. But the evil orange man was not successful. It is interesting though how things he said that were lies, lies, and damned lies are now being revealed as truth. I'm not seeing any retractions regarding COVID being likely to have originated in the Wuhan lab or the "vaccine" not actually preventing you from contracting covid, or the mortality rate being very close to a bad flu not the catastrophic 10 % that was predicted by that early London model
Keep in mind that every positive report regarding Trump and every negative report about Biden was being suppressed at the behest of the FBI by Twitter, FB, and Google. They were putting their thumb on the scale in an attempt to swing the election to Biden and they succeeded by hook or by "crook". Largely by crook. Maybe you're not watching any of that evidence either. I guess if you don't watch it, it isn't true.
Murdoch hates Trump and always has. He only allowed positive reporting on Trump in the beginning because it raised viewership. Once Trump was not declared the winner in 2020, then Murdoch went all out to cancel him and the Fox talking heads were ordered to stop reporting on what the then sitting President was saying. He also fired Lou Dobbs who would not be silenced because he looked at the evidence.
2000 Mules is not proof, it's speculation, and probably made by a person of a particular political leaning. Why couldn't the lawyers provide proof, when asked in court, 60 times? I am a very simple, and empirical person, if there is proof I will believe it. But I only see speculation regarding he election. To quote Rudy "We don't have proof, but we have a lot of theories". As I wrote before, the big mistake in the news media was making it a profit center, and all pander to their particular, devoted viewers, and tell them what they want to hear.
This is an interesting read regarding the history of the news media.
This is an interesting read regarding the history of the news media.
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My first words were "of course you are correct" referring to Fox lieing to their viewers, then I went on to point out other hypocrisy.
I Apologize. There is a difference between opinion and lying, is all I wanted to point out. You can have any opinion you want, just don't try and palm it off as a fact. Aas a former Republican, I can't figure out what the republicans are for,other than they want the Democrat's to lose.
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If you find any Republicans on this forum let us know, j haven't seen anyone claiming to be one.
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I guess you didn't see the GPS trails or the same person on video going back to the drop box multiple times during the night. OK, we didn't see the ballots he was depositing. Does that mean someone back at the DNC wasn't filling out ballots illegally for him to deposit? How many did he fill out himself? Why was each trip to deposit multiple ballots? Where was he getting the ballots from given the GPS tracking had him going back to the DNC headquarters?
Don't believe you lyin' eyes
And don't ask ANY questions you do not want to know the answer to Keep that COVID mask up over your eyes. It does more good there than over your mouth and nose. But you probably think masks are also effective against virus'.The Republicans in office are feckless pieces of dog do. They are the reason this country is in the state it is in because they are too afraid of being called names by the left.
I spent my formative years thinking I was a Democrat. Then I realized it was my money and the Republicans were giving it aways as fast as the Democrats.
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Fact Check-Does ‘2000 Mules’ provide evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 U.S. presidential election?
A documentary directed by conservative commentator Dinesh D’Souza claims it can prove widespread fraud was carried out during the 2020 presidential election in the United States. Reuters Fact Check examined the main claims presented in the film and did not find any concrete...
www.reuters.com
What I want to know is did all those ballots just have a vote for biden on them and all the choices for senate, house and dog catcher were just left blank?
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I'm guessing that the "fact" checkers never obtained ANY geo data with which to confirm or contest the allegations of the movie. All they did was spout the party line. Someone reliable has to obtain the data and follow the patterns to dispute the evidence and that NEVER happened.
This is the same fact checkers that told you that if you took the "vaccine" you couldn't get COVID. They told you that Trump was the ONLY person EVER to accidentally remove "secret" documents from the White House. They say a Senator who has NO authority to declassify documents he didn't originate, removing "secret" documents from his office and storing them in various unsecured locations is the same as a President removing "secret" documents which he insists WERE declassified because HE had the authority to do it, and who was storing them in a secured location guarded by the Secret Service is the same thing. And now we have other people coming out of the woodwork and returning documents they "accidentally" took.
You don't believe people with rational evidence but you do believe people with no evidence because you want to believe the people with no evidence because you hate the evil orange man despite the constant evidence that the things he said in the past that the media called LIES were actually the truth. Yes, it is almost a certainty that COVID came from the Wuhan lab. Is anyone going to apologize? Trump didn't make this up. His advisors were telling him this!!! We've seen the emails where they were also telling this to Faucci!!!! Yes, the FBI lied to the FISA court prompting him to be surveilled even though it was second hand so he WAS being spied on during the campaign and even once he took office. Yes the FBI told FB and Twitter and apparently everyone else to squash the Laptop story because it reflected poorly on Biden and therefore might help Trump to win the Presidency. The FBI knew as far back as late 2019 that the laptop was real and that Hunter's lawyer had tried to retrieve it. Trump warned Europe that relying on Russia for fuel was going to be a problem and it was. Russia was threatening to shut it off. And then it was a real problem when Biden blew up the pipeline and shut off ALL the natural gas from Russia. Biden did this because he didn't want Germany to cave into the Russians and back out of supporting Ukraine in the war. The wars we engage in make too much money for the military - industrial complex that sell more stuff when we are lopping bombs at people than when we're not. The money ran out in Afghanistan and Iraq so it needed to come from somewhere.
And it goes on and on and on. Yet we see no banner headlines. "Trump was right" because the evil orange man can never ever be said to be right about anything. He is an existential threat to the uniparty.
This is the same fact checkers that told you that if you took the "vaccine" you couldn't get COVID. They told you that Trump was the ONLY person EVER to accidentally remove "secret" documents from the White House. They say a Senator who has NO authority to declassify documents he didn't originate, removing "secret" documents from his office and storing them in various unsecured locations is the same as a President removing "secret" documents which he insists WERE declassified because HE had the authority to do it, and who was storing them in a secured location guarded by the Secret Service is the same thing. And now we have other people coming out of the woodwork and returning documents they "accidentally" took.
You don't believe people with rational evidence but you do believe people with no evidence because you want to believe the people with no evidence because you hate the evil orange man despite the constant evidence that the things he said in the past that the media called LIES were actually the truth. Yes, it is almost a certainty that COVID came from the Wuhan lab. Is anyone going to apologize? Trump didn't make this up. His advisors were telling him this!!! We've seen the emails where they were also telling this to Faucci!!!! Yes, the FBI lied to the FISA court prompting him to be surveilled even though it was second hand so he WAS being spied on during the campaign and even once he took office. Yes the FBI told FB and Twitter and apparently everyone else to squash the Laptop story because it reflected poorly on Biden and therefore might help Trump to win the Presidency. The FBI knew as far back as late 2019 that the laptop was real and that Hunter's lawyer had tried to retrieve it. Trump warned Europe that relying on Russia for fuel was going to be a problem and it was. Russia was threatening to shut it off. And then it was a real problem when Biden blew up the pipeline and shut off ALL the natural gas from Russia. Biden did this because he didn't want Germany to cave into the Russians and back out of supporting Ukraine in the war. The wars we engage in make too much money for the military - industrial complex that sell more stuff when we are lopping bombs at people than when we're not. The money ran out in Afghanistan and Iraq so it needed to come from somewhere.
And it goes on and on and on. Yet we see no banner headlines. "Trump was right" because the evil orange man can never ever be said to be right about anything. He is an existential threat to the uniparty.
