i did. my database is to track what we call "incident action plans for nyc fd" . i have created phyical tangles tables and logical tables etc. i did not realize i wouldnot need the queries unit now bc still learning. i have created forms. the only problem im experciencing is print certain forms, and the forms not display the info from the tables. i am able to select them off the combo boxes but when i close the form, the data gets lost. i will probably, unfortuanately, redo everything one i have it all fig out. all the tables are not completed done, just entered limited date to ensure working and in the right track. forms are very easy to create. have become an expert on formatting forms.