Liar Liar Pants On Fire

[Steve R.]

#jpl458: You are attempting to incorrectly force logic towards an asymmetrical situation that is illogical. In your world Trump is guilty by definition while Biden is innocent by definition. Consequently, your supposed "question" can't be answered to your satisfaction.

 

[AccessBlaster]

The left has turned Trump into a cult classic by accident.

 

[jpl458]

Take Trump and Biden out of the equation. If any President is deemed to be immune, wouldn't that immunity apply to all Presidents? It's like saying the speed limit on this road is 40 MPH. Would that not apply to all citizens, or not? I am not talking about guilt or innocence with regard to Trump. He is innocent until proven guilty. Does the law apply to everyone or not? Steve R, There is nothing asymmetrical about the question.

 

[moke123]

Breaking news: New York State declares Trump sneakers only worth $18. Will seek 1 billion dollar fine to help the victims who bought $400 sneakers, now worth thousands.

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[jpl458]

Because there is NO absolute yes or no answer to the question. For there to be a Yes/No option it needs to 100% one or the other and the answer is "it depends". But, there is no ambiguity in the answers. If Trump is immune, then Biden is immune for the SAME OFFENSE. You keep wanting to make the offenses different and so no one is going to say that Biden is immune in situation a but Trump is not because that isn't how it should work. It is how the Dems want it to work however.

"If Trump is immune, then Biden is immune for the SAME OFFENSE."
I agree with that.

But Trump claims that Presidential immunity is absloute.

 

[jpl458]

Who did Obama murder, or caim he could murder? BTW, here is part of the ruling of 3 judge panel of the circuit court. Implicite, is a ruling on absolute immunity. In the last line.

“At bottom, former President Trump’s stance would collapse our system of separated powers by placing the president beyond the reach of all three branches,” they wrote. “Presidential immunity against federal indictment would mean that, as to the president, the Congress could not legislate, the executive could not prosecute and the judiciary could not review. We cannot accept that the office of the presidency places its former occupants above the law for all time."

 

[Steve R.]

"If Trump is immune, then Biden is immune for the SAME OFFENSE."
I agree with that.

But Trump claims that Presidential immunity is absloute.

As I was alluding to, your question was dishonest trap meant to twist logic for the purpose of finding Trump somehow guilty of something.

You neglect that Biden is abusing the legal system by depriving Trump's right to immunity to make Trump a criminal. Recall that Biden, besides the question of immunity, has already refused to honor long standing principles of Exutive Privilege and Client Attorney Privilege. Very dishonest of Biden.

If you want an honest response to your question; you should be writing it within the context that Biden has weaponized the legal which invalidates the neutral application of the law. This places Biden above the law, as judge, jury, and executionor all rolled into one.

 

[jpl458]

As I was alluding to, your question was dishonest trap meant to twist logic for the purpose of finding Trump somehow guilty of something.

You neglect that Biden is abusing the legal system to make Trump a criminal. If you want an honest response to your question; you should be writing it within the context that Biden has weaponized the legal which invalidates the neutral application of the law. This places Biden above the law, as judge, jury, and executionor all rolled into one.

I don't agree. Biden didn't order jusrice to go after Trump. The House Select Commitee sent it's findings to Juistice, then a special couincil was appointed. That is the way it works. Biden did not subvert the separation of powers. By the same token, if the claims that Biden and Hunter had recieved bribes I would be on them as well. But the house commitee seems to be fresh out of evidence on that subject. In my original post on the subject is was just asking about immunity. I wasn't trying to prove Trump guilty of anything. I just found the idea of Presidential immunity for any and all crimes committed in office to be absurd.

 

[Steve R.]

I don't agree. Biden didn't order jusrice to go after Trump.

Based on all the spurious unjustified lawsuits/criminal indictments filed, it is obvious that the Biden administration has colluded, in an illegal manner, to get Trump. In fact, Democrats are once again trying to resurrect the discredited Russa hoax. An example of "show me the man, I will find the crime". Biden is practicing Soviet style democracy to cripple political opposition. Biden is a disciple of Putin.

 

[jpl458]

Based on all the spurious unjustified lawsuits/criminal indictments filed, it is obvious that the Biden administration has colluded, in an illegal manner, to get Trump. In fact, Democrats are once again trying to resurrect the discredited Russa hoax. An example of "show me the man, I will find the crime". Biden is practicing Soviet style democracy to cripple political opposition. Biden is a disciple of Putin.

And you have imperical evidence that the crimenal indictments were bogus? Obvious is not enough, since it's in the eye of the beholder.How did Biden cause this to happen? Who did he order to do what?

 

[AccessBlaster]

By the same token, if the claims that Biden and Hunter had recieved bribes I would be on them as well.

Good, have you listen to the tapes?

 

[jpl458]

What tapes. Hope you are not refering to tapes of Smirnov. Seems he wansn't telling the truth.

 

[Steve R.]

And you have imperical evidence that the crimenal indictments were bogus? Obvious is not enough, since it's in the eye of the beholder.How did Biden cause this to happen? Who did he order to do what?

Do you have any evidence of proof that the your claims that the bogus indictments were not the result of collusion?
Simply posting opinion proves nothing.

 

[jpl458]

Then we agree to disagree.

 

[AccessBlaster]

What tapes. Hope you are not refering to tapes of Smirnov. Seems he wansn't telling the truth.

He was credible for nine of the ten years he was employed by the FBI, I wonder what's changed?

 

[Steve R.]

Hope you are not refering to tapes of Smirnov. Seems he wansn't telling the truth.

Amusing that you would post that, as that was an example of the Democrats using a liar (Steele) to persecute Trump for four years. Steele does not get arrested, yet when Smirnov allegedly lies against Biden, he gets arrested. That is proof of Democrats abusing the law for their benefit.

I previously wrote:

Once again, you make a sensational anti-Trump post, that upon inspection turns out to be a case of selective prosecution that ignores the greater legal corruption by the Democrats. So a CHS that accuses H. Biden gets indicted, but CHSs, such as Steele and Halper, who provided misinformation (lies) concerning Trump don't get indicted. Sounds like an inconsistent application of the law for the purpose of protecting the Biden administration and crippling Trump's efforts to clear his name.

 

[Steve R.]

I once aspired to immigrate to the USA....

I'm glad I didn't!

Try now. I understand that you get a welcome package and free transportation to the resort of your desire, all courtesy of the US government.

 

[jpl458]

He was credible for nine of the ten years he was employed by the FBI, I wonder what's changed?

He sorta seems like a Russian troll. Seems he didn't like Biden much prior to him saying Hunter was at a meeting that was never attended by Hunter. He was close Russian intelligence which is kinda not a good thing. Have to see how it turns out. But Jordan amd Comer seem to have given up on the guys info. Maybe he snowed the FBI and made money for all those years. The other star wittness turned out to be on the lamb for a whole bunch of crimes.

 

[AccessBlaster]

He sorta seems like a Russian troll. Seems he didn't like Biden much prior to him saying Hunter was at a meeting that was never attended by Hunter. He was close Russian intelligence which is kinda not a good thing. Have to see how it turns out. But Jordan amd Comer seem to have given up on the guys info. Maybe he snowed the FBI and made money for all those years. The other star wittness turned out to be on the lamb for a whole bunch of crimes.

He's actually a whistle blower who alerted his FBI handler about financial transactions that went from the USA to Ukraine back to one of many Biden offshore shell accounts.

 

[Steve R.]

Another story that raises the concern that Democrats are colluding to suppress stories detrimental to Biden. This also bolsters the concept that Democrats are abusing the law to get Trump.

CBS faces uproar after seizing investigative journalist’s files

The position of CBS has alarmed many, including the union, as an attack on free press principles by one of the nation’s most esteemed press organizations.

thehill.com

The timing of Herridge’s termination immediately raised suspicions in Washington. She was pursuing stories that were unwelcomed by the Biden White House and many Democratic powerhouses, including the Hur report on Joe Biden’s diminished mental capacity, the Biden corruption scandal and the Hunter Biden laptop. She continued to pursue these stories despite reports of pushback from CBS executives, including CBS News President Ingrid Ciprian-Matthews.