Not so theoretical murderers

[Libre]

You can kill a person, and you can destroy a country. But how do you kill an idea or a philosophy? These bastards are like hydra. Chop off a head and two grow back. This is why the so-called "war on terror" has failed so abysmally. In the good old days, you'd fight a war against another country until one of them gave up and then the war was over. They'd even make it easy for everybody by wearing a distinguishing uniform. Very thoughtful, really, considering. But these guys don't fight like that - they aren't a country and they aren't an army fighting on a battlefield with clearly drawn lines.

 

[Bladerunner]

Thanks for the history lesson.

Amongst all that, did you actually answer the question?

I only asked it because it was on TV the other day, they reckoned Nixon was the worst president ever.

Col

Hi Colin: hope this finds you and your wife ok. How are the days over there. Here it has been 10-15 F. and winter ice storm shut the power down for around 24 hours.

If you don't get both sides of the record, it is hard to make a informed decision.


Hope you both have a good day.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

Alas, the history lesson happened to be wrong, but c'est la vie. You can't expect Bladerunner to provide anything even remotely factual, after all.

I also note that his history lesson was also one long rant about the Far Left Liberal Plot To Destroy The World.

We already proved that in another thread... get over it.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

My only problem with that idea is that US killing them makes them martyrs and recruits more replacements than we kill. Just as happened when the US invaded Iraq, ISIS can and will paint it as a war against Isalm if western nations move in force against them. (They get enough of that right now out of the fact that 80% of the air strikes so far have been by US forces, even if the US news media isn't reporting that at all.)

Vengeance begets vengeance and all that.

I don't disagree that the rebels need to be killed and their support base destroyed - these people are very nearly inhuman, the way they treat those they capture. But the only way to WIN that is to find some way to change the foundation that's giving them so many recruits, and even the attacks against ISIS really need to be led by Middle Eastern nations simply to pull the teeth of the 'Western infidels are trying to destroy Islam!' claim.

This is, honestly, more or less precisely what I was afraid would happen the very first time Bush publicly pushed to invade Iraq.

ok here we go again with the Far Left Liberal mentallity. Do you know that some smart liberal come up with the idea that we should provide jobs for the ISIS recruits and it would prevent them from joining ISIS. A real good idea and I have a better one. For the ones who agree to that way to slow down ISIS, we need to send you over there to implement it for all of us. Show us you guts now that you have showed us you brains.

Again, Radical Islam Terrorist are the problem not the Muslim people and there are between 2-15% of the Muslim population that practice it. How many jobs can these guys create. Maybe they should try creating jobs in the US first.

 

[Bladerunner]

What really needs to be done is for Muslims to actually publicly condemn ISIS in huge numbers.

What moral standpoint could you have when even your own people know you are wrong.

I agree the US does take a lot of the blame, Scott was right in saying "Together we stand, Divided we fall". Once everyone notices these monsters as what they are (even the muslim people) the sooner this stage of human extinction can end.

Sooner or later, ISIS is going to target the wrong people (aka China or North Korea maybe even Russia). That my friends is when the war shall begin. (Better terminology - When Sh*t hits the fan)

how many time must I say, it does not matter about what their people are saying. They just kill them anyways. These RIT(Radical Islamic Terrorist) believe the the Prophet Mohomand was perfect and to get to heaven they have to emulate him.Have you read the Hadif (Muhammad's personal account). These people want you dead, enslaved, heavily or converted especially from Atheism. If you tell them you are an Atheist you head will be the first to roll behind the Homosexual and then the Christian/Jewish.

 

[Bladerunner]

I've seen Muslims publicly condemning ISIS in huge numbers. The problem is that it's not "newsworthy", so it's barely even covered in Western media. Hell, if you were to get all your news from Faux News, you'd be convinced that all Muslims are supporting it, based on the 'reporting' there.

I've seen is the key word here. How many????? Yes, even on 'FOX NEWS' there are Muslim leaders that are speaking out against ISIS and the RITs. Jordon & Egypt (another Muslim People that practice the Quran)) is bombing them (ISIS), and Iraq is fighting them. Now Yemen has fallen, who will be next. Iran wants a Nuc. (why---to kill all of Israel) and if they have enough of them, make no mistake, they will use them in order to take over the entire Muslim world (middle east) We should be over there helping them to annihalate the RITs period and then bomb the hell out of Iran's nuclear program. But we will not at least for the next two years.. Rem. the US turned its head while the Nazis killed thousands of Jews. This is what you are headed for again. Rem. ISIS just announced after the 41 Christian killings that they were headed to Rome. Who is in Rome?

Again to the people of Europe (that are on this thread), I am sorry for the US's actions or lack thereof against the RITs. Like days of old, you are going to have to bare the brunt of incivility of the next few years.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

You can kill a person, and you can destroy a country. But how do you kill an idea or a philosophy? These bastards are like hydra. Chop off a head and two grow back. This is why the so-called "war on terror" has failed so abysmally. In the good old days, you'd fight a war against another country until one of them gave up and then the war was over. They'd even make it easy for everybody by wearing a distinguishing uniform. Very thoughtful, really, considering. But these guys don't fight like that - they aren't a country and they aren't an army fighting on a battlefield with clearly drawn lines.

Hi Libre: To answer that question:" But how do you kill an idea or a philosophy? " You do not but you minimize it. As in Iraq in the early 2000's the Muslim population themselves were turning in those who were RITs and these were rounded up. Yes there was still fighting when Obama took over but US deaths were way down since we were mainly training the Iraqy soldiers. Had we stayed until 2014 like GWB recommended, ISIS would not be a problem today. For an example of a peaceful Muslim nation that is democratic (representative form of government) simply look to Turkey. It is possible? First however, we have to annihalate ISIS to a point that they are not popular and can pose no further threat(s) to society. Then we need to turn to Al-Qaeda then the Botherhood, etc. until all the RITs organizations are minimized. Then and only then will we be able to live in peace.

I know a lot of people will die accomplishing this task however, if we let them continue as they are, more RIT recruits will flock to them and eventually, they will have a large army instead of a small one. How many are going to die then?

Good insight Libre

Blade

 

[ConnorGiles]

how many time must I say, it does not matter about what their people are saying. They just kill them anyways. These RIT(Radical Islamic Terrorist) believe the the Prophet Mohomand was perfect and to get to heaven they have to emulate him.Have you read the Hadif (Muhammad's personal account). These people want you dead, enslaved, heavily or converted especially from Atheism. If you tell them you are an Atheist you head will be the first to roll behind the Homosexual and then the Christian/Jewish.

I doubt atheists would be first, surely its harder to convert someone who already has a religion? like trying to install a newer version of a program but needing to uninstall the old one first.

As I have said, One day they will attack the wrong people and that's when (as Anthony says) "Shiite hits the Fan".

 

[AnthonyGerrard]

I doubt atheists would be first, surely its harder to convert someone who already has a religion? like trying to install a newer version of a program but needing to uninstall the old one first.

As I have said, One day they will attack the wrong people and that's when (as Anthony says) "Shiite hits the Fan".

I don't think there's much ordering in their intolerance. Atheist, Shia, Christian , Jew , Yazidi..........

Simply evil nutcases.

 

[AnthonyGerrard]

I don't think there's much ordering in their intolerance. Atheist, Shia, Christian , Jew , Yazidi..........

Simply evil nutcases.

WE need to get those who have returned and recognise it for what it is, out there dissuading the gullible who think it a cause to follow.

 

[ColinEssex]

Hi Colin: .. . . . . .

If you don't get both sides of the record, it is hard to make a informed decision.


Blade

I find it funny that Yanks have great difficulty in answering a straight question, they witter on about liberals, pro this and anti that and Uncle Tom Cobley and all, boring everyone senseless in the process with stuff they copy and paste from other sites trying to make themselves look intelligent as if they know where Europe is or Syria is.

Here is the question again:-

Who do you think was the worst president, GWB or Nixon? And why.

Col

 

[Libre]

There you go again, Yanks this, Yanks that. What a narrow minded and prejudiced fellow you are. Here you are, judging me - a YANK. Where do you get off doing that? - you ... limey.
And another thing:

Here is the question again:-

Who do you think was the worst president, GWB or Nixon? And why.

Col

I wouldn't ordinarily bother to correct somebody's syntax in an internet thread, but since you're up there on your throne, so high and mighty, you should know that you would fail a standard SAT question (a test given to high school students to see if they are college material), pertaining to the difference in usage between "worse" and "worst". As it is, the wording of your question is childish and meaningless. Your question required a comparative, but instead you used the superlative.
So go on a little more about how ignorant we YANKS are, Col.

 

[Bladerunner]

I find it funny that Yanks have great difficulty in answering a straight question, they witter on about liberals, pro this and anti that and Uncle Tom Cobley and all, boring everyone senseless in the process with stuff they copy and paste from other sites trying to make themselves look intelligent as if they know where Europe is or Syria is.

Here is the question again:-

Who do you think was the worst president, GWB or Nixon? And why.

Col

Between these two presidents, who is worse than the other? Nixon, because he allowed criminal activity to be carried out under his watch which is why he resigned under the possibility of impeachment.

Blade

 

[ConnorGiles]

you ... limey.

Woah, Woah, Woah!

I kid , Just because we have a anti-american don't stoop to his level and coop us all in with him, then we would be stuck with him!

 

[ColinEssex]

There you go again, Yanks this, Yanks that. What a narrow minded and prejudiced fellow you are. Here you are, judging me - a YANK. Where do you get off doing that? - you ... limey.
And another thing:

I wouldn't ordinarily bother to correct somebody's syntax in an internet thread, but since you're up there on your throne, so high and mighty, you should know that you would fail a standard SAT question (a test given to high school students to see if they are college material), pertaining to the difference in usage between "worse" and "worst". As it is, the wording of your question is childish and meaningless. Your question required a comparative, but instead you used the superlative.
So go on a little more about how ignorant we YANKS are, Col.

Hmmm, I'm not 100% convinced by your "correction", but I'll be generous and give you the benefit of the doubt being as English is not your first language plus, I can't be arsed to argue the toss.

Oh, and I quite like "Limey" as it evokes the history of the British Empire, beating the Spanish and squabbling with the French, colonising India and the Americas et al. Ah good old days, my home town of Bristol made millions out of slavery and we have some wonderful buildings funded by slave money.

Col

 

[Libre]

Col - I kind of like "Limey" too. I wanted to call you something much more offensive but "Limey" is the only slang term for a Brit that I could come up with - so I went with it.

 

[ColinEssex]

Woah, Woah, Woah!

I kid , Just because we have a anti-american don't stoop to his level and coop us all in with him, then we would be stuck with him!

I have said many times, I am not anti American. The ones I meet in London are very polite, well mannered and interesting to talk to.

It's just that they make a pigs ear of everything they get involved in internationally, which tends to upset everyone.

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

Col - I kind of like "Limey" too. I wanted to call you something much more offensive but "Limey" is the only slang term for a Brit that I could come up with - so I went with it.

I have been called almost everything during the 15 years I have been posting here and "Limey" is a regular.

Col

 

[AnthonyGerrard]

I have said many times, I am not anti American. The ones I meet in London are very polite, well mannered and interesting to talk to.

It's just that they make a pigs ear of everything they get involved in internationally, which tends to upset everyone.

Col

Ex pats or tourists?

 

[Frothingslosh]

Collin isn't anti-American, he just hates every American he hasn't personally met and considers Americans inferior in every way possible.

His comments on language are just precious, considering that if you went by his writing, you would assume English isn't HIS first language. We won't even get into his inability to differentiate between "language" and "dialect".