Oikophobe: Word of the Day (2 Viewers)

[Isaac]

Umm, not totally sure I'm following, but: if the Autstralian is an English teacher in America, they should probably teach American-style english, as it would be the most useful, yeah..

 

[Isaac]

Then they'd have to lose their accent

Ideally, you just don't decide to teach a language in a country you're not suited for
If I'm teaching English in Mexico, I probably shouldn't be British, as that won't help the youngsters much. Anyway, I believe we've beat this horse beyond death.

 

[Steve R.]

An graphic application of Oikophobe:

 

[Steve R.]

More on the West committing cultural suicide. Douglas Murray has exposed the metastasizing Oikophobe that has been occurring. We also see "old timers", such as WWII vets becoming very disappointed in the decline of culture and patriotism.

We've been indoctrinating Americans into anti-Westernism, says Douglas Murray | Fox News Video

Manhattan Institute senior fellow Douglas Murray discusses the New York City mayoral race on 'Life, Liberty & Levin.'

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Douglas Murray slams Western societies for nurturing America-haters | Fox News Video

Fox News contributor Douglas Murray joins 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss hate-filled rhetoric against the West.

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Veteran says winning WW2 'wasn't worth it' because of UK's state

Alec Penstone sat down with Kate, 58, and Adil, 51, to discuss his memories from battles during the war, and his feelings about the upcoming Remembrance Day.

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And we are even seeing the government (in several nations) taking action to suppress the thoughts of those who speak-up against Oikophobe.

Hundreds charged with online ‘speech crimes’ under Online Safety Act amid US free expression concerns

Hundreds of people have been prosecuted for online “speech crimes” under the Online Safety Act, amid growing concerns over its

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People Are Being Thrown In U.K. Prisons Over What They’ve Said Online. Can Free Speech Be Saved?

Who could have imagined Great Britain's descending into the kind of speech censorship one associates with China?

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Even the US, under the Biden administration, made an attempt that fortunately failed to implement an Orwellian "Ministry of Truth".

Disinformation Governance Board (2023)

Fighting foreign disinformation operations in America collided with fear of government control of information in the Department of Homeland Security's short-lived Disinformation Governance Board.

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A summary of Douglas Murray's book: "The War on the West"

It is now in vogue to celebrate non-Western cultures and disparage Western ones. Some of this is a much-needed reckoning, but much of it fatally undermines the very things that created the greatest, most humane civilization in the world.

In The War on the West, Douglas Murray shows how many well-meaning people have been fooled by hypocritical and inconsistent anti-West rhetoric. After all, if we must discard the ideas of Kant, Hume, and Mill for their opinions on race, shouldn’t we discard Marx, whose work is peppered with racial slurs and anti-Semitism? Embers of racism remain to be stamped out in America, but what about the raging racist inferno in the Middle East and Asia?

It’s not just dishonest scholars who benefit from this intellectual fraud but hostile nations and human rights abusers hoping to distract from their own ongoing villainy. Dictators who slaughter their own people are happy to jump on the “America is a racist country” bandwagon and mimic the language of antiracism and “pro-justice” movements as PR while making authoritarian conquests.

If the West is to survive, it must be defended.The War on the West is not only an incisive takedown of foolish anti-Western arguments but also a rigorous new apologetic for civilization itself.

 

[BlueSpruce]

Western society has been committing cultural suicide over the past few years. Finally, courtesy of Grok; got around to seeing if there was a one word descriptor . Seems that this is a word that we could be using.

Oikophobe
**Oikophobe**An oikophobe is someone who harbors a fear or hatred toward their own home, society, or culture, as derived from the Greek term "oikophobia," contrasting with xenophobia (fear of foreigners). This word specifically captures the self-directed aversion to one's cultural identity, as noted in discussions of cultural self-hatred.

I am going to coin the word "Ukophobe" and Col can coin "Yankophobe"

 

[BlueSpruce]

That's pretty much my argument, yeah - it's a no brainer to teach Mexican style spanish to USA kids, but you'd be surprised how many spanish teachers for some reason either ARE from spain or prefer to teach spain-spanish, I think they think it's the cooler, more aloof higher class spanish, but I just think it's silly, as it won't be useful to most people.

At University, we used to have discussions with our spanish teacher about this. She was from spain and teaching everyone only spain spanish, I thought it was the dumbest thing, I'd never run into a spaniard in everyday life

All Spanish dialects are derived from Castilian Spanish, as defined by the Real Academia Española. The word used by Mexicans for an automobile is "Coche". Cubans say "Máquina", and most other LatAm countries say "Carro".

 

[BlueSpruce]

they hate it when Americans speak spanish without correct pronunciation

That has changed over the years, as virtually all Hispanic people living in the US have learned English. Now when they see Americans struggling to speak Spanish, they will say "let's continue the conversation in English". I have an Access app for Gyms localized to Mexico, Spain, and Dominican Republic. I quickly found out I couldn't use the same words in forms, reports, and messages.

 

[BlueSpruce]

I rather frame it in terms of actual experience, since most people learn spanish for the utilization of it in a practical way (although it's fine if you'd prefer to learn it for some historical, academic or sentimental reason).

The fact is this: In 45 years of lots of interacting with hispanics in daily life (living in Arizona for 20 years and CA for another one) , I've come across about a total of 1-2 situations where I could benefit from having that "spain spanish" accent. Ok, maybe 5-10. Out of 10's of 1000's.

Thus, my recommendation for the average kids learning spanish in school - learn the type that does you the most good, not the one you'll never use. Our next door neighbor is Mexico, not Spain. Hell, even when it comes to vacations, you're more likely to go to Mexico than Spain LOL

I fluently speak, read, and write Universal Spanish, which all Mexicans, Spaniards, Central and South Americans easily understand. I lived in Las Cruces NM and El Paso TX for several years, and often went into Mexico through the Gateway of The Americas bridge into Ciudad Juarez, as far as Puerto Escondido on surfing trips.

 

[DickyP]

I was confused by the title of this thread - to me, as to most Brits, an 'OIK' is 'uncouth or obnoxious person' (OED). Hence I assumed an oikophobe would be someone with a fear of oiks.