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[AccessBlaster]

The Supremes are addressing late ballots, oh my.

 

[Thales750]

Nope, but you can fly and enter certain secure areas like TSA
Ur
A birth certificate proves citizenship
A REAL ID (under the REAL ID Act) proves identity to a federal standard

I'm telling you that in Virginia and Texas you have to show your birth certificate to get a drivers license. Meaning you have already proven citizenship. The regs for getting a ''Real' Id for US citizens is to show a birth certificate.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I'm telling you that in Virginia and Texas you have to show your birth certificate to get a drivers license. Meaning you have already proven citizenship. The regs for getting a ''Real' Id for US citizens is to show a birth certificate.

If you have the U.S. birth certificate required to obtain a REAL ID, then you can vote problem solved, were arguing about semantics.

Once loopholes like ballot drop boxes, ballot counting practices, and the appearance of newly found ballots are addressed, our system will no longer be the joke that it is now.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Louisiana is often the butt of a lot of jokes, but most of our voting practices are fairly good. For instance, we are required to show a valid government ID, which includes state driver's licenses (which have pictures) or state-issued non-driver ID cards (again, with pictures). You must sign in on a pre-printed form which lists registered voters for the particular ward and precinct in which you are registered, and you have to vote at the official polling place. Absentee ballots are collected BEFORE the voting date and there is a prior cutoff after which absentee ballots are no longer accepted. At least two polling volunteers must check your ID before they also write your name in the official log book. None of that follows you into the voting booth because your vote and signature are not ever linked up to each other. Your ballot is still private.

Perfect? Probably not. But tighter than some other states? It seems to be, based on what I'm seeing in the news and on this forum.

 

[AccessBlaster]

The problem:

Twenty-eight states offer "no-excuse" absentee voting, which means that any voter can request and cast an absentee/mail ballot, no excuse or reason necessary.

Eight states and Washington, D.C., conduct elections entirely by mail (California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont and Washington), which means voters do not need to request a ballot, and instead automatically receive one.

The remaining states require a voter to provide an excuse to qualify for an absentee/mail ballot.

 

[Thales750]

Louisiana is often the butt of a lot of jokes, but most of our voting practices are fairly good. For instance, we are required to show a valid government ID, which includes state driver's licenses (which have pictures) or state-issued non-driver ID cards (again, with pictures). You must sign in on a pre-printed form which lists registered voters for the particular ward and precinct in which you are registered, and you have to vote at the official polling place. Absentee ballots are collected BEFORE the voting date and there is a prior cutoff after which absentee ballots are no longer accepted. At least two polling volunteers must check your ID before they also write your name in the official log book. None of that follows you into the voting booth because your vote and signature are not ever linked up to each other. Your ballot is still private.

Perfect? Probably not. But tighter than some other states? It seems to be, based on what I'm seeing in the news and on this forum.

Very similar to both Texas and Virginia the bottom line is all of this broken voting system news is absolutely fake news, there's no real problem.

 

[moke123]

Trump Just Voted The Exact Way He’s Called ‘Cheating’ And 'Corrupt As Hell'

Despite having been in Florida while early voting was underway, Trump chose to cast his ballot by mail, a method he's vowed to outlaw for most Americans.

www.huffpost.com

 

[The_Doc_Man]

all of this broken voting system news is absolutely fake news, there's no real problem.

Other than those who say there is no problem in a system that invites repeated criticism because of repeated incidents regarding voter irregularity.

 

[RogerCooper]

The Supremes are addressing late ballots, oh my.

Which they should not be doing. The law states votes must be "cast" by election date not "received" by election date. Legitimate arguments have been made for "received" but it is the job of congress not the courts to write laws.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Which they should not be doing. The law states votes must be "cast" by election date not "received" by election date. Legitimate arguments have been made for "received" but it is the job of congress not the courts to write laws.

Late ballots undermined voter confidence as do mail-in ballots and drop boxes.

 

[RogerCooper]

Late ballots undermined voter confidence as do mail-in ballots and drop boxes.

That is question for the legislature not the courts to decide. The Supreme Court is not the third house of Congress.

 

[AccessBlaster]

That is question for the legislature not the courts to decide. The Supreme Court is not the third house of Congress.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

That is question for the legislature not the courts to decide. The Supreme Court is not the third house of Congress.

What IS for the courts to decide is whether whatever is happening is consistent with existing law. It is true that SCOTUS isn't supposed to make law, but when there is a dispute over either the law itself or an implementation of that law, SOMEONE has to get involved, and this one was dropped in the lap of SCOTUS. It is still possible for them to decide after consideration that Mississippi's law, while unwise, is not unconstitutional.

 

[RogerCooper]

What IS for the courts to decide is whether whatever is happening is consistent with existing law. It is true that SCOTUS isn't supposed to make law, but when there is a dispute over either the law itself or an implementation of that law, SOMEONE has to get involved, and this one was dropped in the lap of SCOTUS. It is still possible for them to decide after consideration that Mississippi's law, while unwise, is not unconstitutional.

Constitutionality is not the question. Federal law specifies that all votes must be "cast" by election day.

Most states have interpreted that as covering mail-in ballots as long as they were post-marked by election day. This is consistent with contractual law where tendering something into the mail constitutes acceptance at that date. States have been doing this for years.

Now, some Republicans have decided that law should be rewritten to say "received" by election day without bothering to actually change the law through a legislative process. SCOTUS should refuse them.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Federal law specifies that all votes must be "cast" by election day.

I smell a "Bill Clinton" answer... It depends on what "cast" means. And the Progressive Liberals are casting a wide net, if they can get away with it.