Are you an atheist? (14 Viewers)

[Brianwarnock]

I thing your hypothesis is a little far fetched, to remove all traces of Pearl Harbour from world history would require a Global effort and presumably a Global Government, not sure Pearl Harbour or much else would matter by then.

Brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

Thank you for your post Froth, perhaps I should duck out from American discussions, life over there seems very complicated. I have thought that both Dick and Blade are from the far right but do not know them well enough to call either of them racist I just thought Blade was stating a point without thinking it through.

Brian

 

[Frothingslosh]

I thing your hypothesis is a little far fetched, to remove all traces of Pearl Harbour from world history would require a Global effort and presumably a Global Government, not sure Pearl Harbour or much else would matter by then.

Brian

To my understanding, the only people trying to erase the memory of Pearl Harbor are (perhaps) some ultra-conservative Japanese. It's not a topic I've ever seen brought up by anyone other than Blade, but it would be in-character for them.

It's certainly not brought up in my super-duper-secret-anti-American-New-World-Order-And-Gay-Weddings-For-Everyone-meetings.

 

[Brianwarnock]

To my understanding, the only people trying to erase the memory of Pearl Harbor are some ultra-conservative Japanese. It's not a topic I've ever seen brought up by anyone other than Blade.

It's certainly not brought up in my super-duper-secret-anti-American-New-World-Order-For-Everyone-meetings.

I think that it was only an example, he probably is thinking of any historical event, I think that any major event is too well known world wide these days.

Brian

 

[Bladerunner]

Yes, No-one really knows what happened - all we can do is create hypothesis or theories in which sound more credible than the next and back them up through modern day tests to try and recreate (on a very minuscule level) what happened at the start. But that requires tests and a lot of patience.

But hey thats just the scientific way to approach things. Why not blindly love and worship something that could be made up for most of your life in hopes it is real. Whatever helps you sleep at night Blade.

You keep telling me that we do know what happened in the Universe. But yet, some do and some don't Who do I believe the non-believers of the Big Bang or the believers of the Big Bang. Got to get it together Boys. At least the Bible has only one theme through its contents of 66 sorted books written by mostly different people spanning 1500 to 3000 years. A little bit better than we can do today that is with today's EVIDENCE of discord among the scientist.

I read that mutations caused the different blood types and then it went from there.

(what ever floats your Boat,,,it is the same)

I don't know but when I get was a kid we would work out in the fields all day long without a shirt. A deep tan yes, but in the winter it changed back. However, over the years, the cells did not change back to the 'pearly whites' that is normally seen in men's legs that have not been out in the sun. Thus even now, in the winter, I am darker than what I started out at birth. Have I evolved... You could say that, My skins cells at least remember the summer time is coming and why start over, just hold on to the darker cells. EH?

I have never disputed 'mutation, modification, evolution ' for any species. However, I do not believe the evolution you speak of is the same as that of mine. (i.e. all things came from the sea).........NO! All things came from GOD! and Adam named them!

Sounds a bit like incest to me.Son is your uncle. Mother is your sister. that sort of thing

Connor, How do you get that out of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost? If has been my experience that when someone cracks satanic jokes, it is because they have been placed in a very uncomfortable position.

Yes there was incest in the beginning.and after a while God commanded it be stopped. We use incest to breed animals to become a better animal at least in our eyes. Why could he not do it with us. Hypocrisy at the highest level.


Blade

 

[Frothingslosh]

Thank you for your post Froth, perhaps I should duck out from American discussions, life over there seems very complicated. I have thought that both Dick and Blade are from the far right but do not know them well enough to call either of them racist I just thought Blade was stating a point without thinking it through.

Brian

Our politics are mostly merely...'intense'.

At least, 'merely intense' other than when our Senate is trying to torpedo our President's diplomatic work because they want another war.

 

[Frothingslosh]

I think that it was only an example, he probably is thinking of any historical event, I think that any major event is too well known world wide these days.

Brian

Well, I do know that Japanese schoolbooks tend to downplay if not ignore entirely the ra** of Nanking. I could certainly see a similar movement regarding Pearl Harbor.

 

[Brianwarnock]

Well, I do know that Japanese schoolbooks tend to downplay if not ignore entirely the ra** of Nanking. I could certainly see a similar movement regarding Pearl Harbor.

I don't recall the exhibits at the Hiroshima museum mentioning the behaviour of the Japanese army towards POWs and occupied peoples, there was no attempt to give any explanation for the bombing, though in fairness it was crowded and difficult to study all of the exhibits.

But even if one country whitewashes its history I still say it would need a concerted global effort to remove all of the truth in the modern era.

Despite Hollywood's best efforts we know that the British not the Americans captured the Enigma machine.

Brian

Brian

 

[Bladerunner]

I thing your hypothesis is a little far fetched, to remove all traces of Pearl Harbour from world history would require a Global effort and presumably a Global Government, not sure Pearl Harbour or much else would matter by then.

Brian

The way it is going, there will be a world government in the next 100 years, that is if Jesus does not hit the spot light before.

It is a far fetched as the arguments of the Bible. We all know it happened now but those people in a 1000years will not know. Does it matter no, but it was to show just how easy it would be minimize a subject based upon absence of evidence and the Bible by its own words was written by Moses and that was around 1000-1500BC. More than 3000 years have gone by since then and we was only talking about one-third of that.

You see it does matter. I believe , you do not. I was just trying to give you a different look at the possibilites other than a pure hatred of religion that most of the books like "The God Delusion" speaks of. They have no evidence per-say either yet, you believe them and not the Bible. WHY? Ask yourself, is it the Agenda your life's work is following, is it your friends, etc.........

If you (all) consider your lives to have no meaning outside of the lifetimes we are given here, then there is nothing that can help you. However, If you want to have any possibility of extending your life after death, at least back up to "Defcon 2" Agnostic.


Blade
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[Frothingslosh]

I don't recall the exhibits at the Hiroshima museum mentioning the behaviour of the Japanese army towards POWs and occupied peoples, there was no attempt to give any explanation for the bombing, though in fairness it was crowded and difficult to study all of the exhibits.

But even if one country whitewashes its history I still say it would need a concerted global effort to remove all of the truth in the modern era.

Despite Hollywood's best efforts we know that the British not the Americans captured the Enigma machine.

Brian

Brian

lol Touche'!

 

[Bladerunner]

I think that it was only an example, he probably is thinking of any historical event, I think that any major event is too well known world wide these days.

Brian

Thank you Brian: Yes, it is well known but in a very liberal world, history is changed and yes it is being changed today in the "Common Core" education proposal the liberals are trying to force down our throats. The history book does actually remove the idea that Japan Attacked the US for our response a a nuclear bomb. Also leaves out a little bit more as well. Indoctrinate the children first is one of the first laws of socialism.

This is today. so what "Could" happen 1000 years. Let your mind wonder. Now look to 3000 years before our time now and see how easy it would be over the years for anything especially manuscripts and records to be lost.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

Our politics are mostly merely...'intense'.

At least, 'merely intense' other than when our Senate is trying to torpedo our President's diplomatic work because they want another war.

and you are willing to put the Jewish peoples lives at stake for that possibility. If Iran gets a bomb, there will be war. Look back to your history.


Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

I don't recall the exhibits at the Hiroshima museum mentioning the behaviour of the Japanese army towards POWs and occupied peoples, there was no attempt to give any explanation for the bombing, though in fairness it was crowded and difficult to study all of the exhibits.

But even if one country whitewashes its history I still say it would need a concerted global effort to remove all of the truth in the modern era.

Despite Hollywood's best efforts we know that the British not the Americans captured the Enigma machine.

Brian

Brian: we had no problems with the Japanese after their emperor told them to lay down their arms and do nothing further.

Bloade

 

[Bladerunner]

Too funny!
Anyway, I just want to clear a few things up from that quote I saw.

What Blade means by "a nanny state where the the government would supersede any of the state authority given to them by our constitution." is this:

Yes it is,take the increase of people on welfare, food stamps and other subsidies, especially Healthcare that gives them money for staying at home. Hell, they are even giving Illegal immigrants (non-citizens)money because they have not earned enough even though they are criminals. (earned income Credit). All for the vote and the vote for a one party system and that one party system is socialism. Frothy,,,,It ain't going to happen buddy!!!!!!!!!!!

Too funny!
Right now, there's a huge fight going on over gay marriage/marriage equality. A ton of states have outlawed gay marriage, and the vast majority of those laws have been overturned by the federal court system as being blatant violations of the 14th amendment, specifically Section 1:

There was nothing mentioned about the Gay movement. Another tactic I forgot to mention. Switch the subject when in trouble. Sorry Frothy, we are not going to solve the gays living habits here nor am I going to comment on them.

Too funny! BluishDan and I have repeatedly called Blade a racist simply because a) his arguments come STRAIGHT from Stormfront, and B) he has actually linked, in this forum, to white supremacist sites to try to support his positions. The recent arguments of his I've seen you quote here have done nothing to dispel that impression.

Frothy every disagreement is a racist comment in yours and BluishDan's eyes. Its a common tactic and I expect it from you and him as well. It does not bother me and will not keep me from this thread. actually, I would be a little bit disappointed if you did not play the race card.

Too funny!
The Koch brothers have publicly stated they'll be funnelling over a billion dollars to right-wing candidates in the next election cycle. George Soros has done nothing of the sort.

George Sorros is MoveOn.org. I think they helped oranizations like Acorn (Busted by the FEDS) funnel funny money to candidates and sign up illegal voters and a whole host of other illegal activities,,,,,, Think Acorn is out of business but there are others. The Tea Party is is just a bunch of people like myself that believe in the constitution and not all of this liberal mumbo jumbo.

Too funny!
If you want to see who is trying to convert the US to a single-party state, you need look no further than the GOP.

You are somewhat right in that the GOP establishment is in bed with the democratic party. On the other hand, the Tea Party people want to bring this country back to its two party system. We believe in it.

Too funny!
The "Obama wants mandatory voting" is a sound byte the Right is taking completely out of context and waving around. He was discussing ways to limit the effectiveness of money on voting (because right now in the US, you can have all the Democracy you can buy thanks to Citizens United), and said that mandatory voting would certainly have an impact on it, and he's right. If everyone in the US voted (last election it was around 30% turnout), the effect of money on the elections would be vastly diminished. Right now, a lot of the campaigning is actually simply trying to convince the Left - who are terrible at turning out to vote - to stay home by making it appear to be a lost cause. (Let's also not forget all the robo-calls that hit poor and minority areas every election giving them the wrong date and location!)

Fines for people who do not vote??????. Does that sound like Free Speech to you. Like the Healthcare fines for not having any.......OH, Lets force people to do this....... Thru fines at first and then when we get everybody aboard, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Guess I will have to rest my case here. Socialism all the way.

Too funny!
If I remember correctly, there are something like 20 or 25 Western nations with mandatory voting, and in most cases, carries a very minor penalty. I think it was Belgium where the fine came to around $20 American, unless you were dumb enough to ignore the notification and force the courts to take action. Personally I'm rather on the wall on the topic - I definitely understand both sides of the issue, and don't really know what way I'd eventually lean on this one.

This is not Europe, This is America and if you don't like it, simply pack you little bags and hit the road Jack. Europe is already a group of Socialist nations by their own admission. Not thanks. We will keep America.

Too funny!
So yeah, keep in mind that with Blade, you're dealing with someone who is on the far right, even by American standards. (I know he'll paint me as part of the Soros/FEMA Conspiracy to Destroy America, Kill All Christians, And Give The Smoldering Remains To ISIL, but honestly, by our standards, I'm mainstream liberal. If you want far left, talk to an anarchist or communist!

And you believe in Big Government that does everything for everybody. I Guess if the shoe fits, go ahead and wear it.

Too funny!
Edit: Oh, nearly forgot. There's a wonderful new bill in Oklahoma that was passed by their House and is in front of their Senate that not only bars same-sex marriage, but would require that all marriages be performed by a 'religious leader', and that marriage certificates could only be made out by said 'religious leader'. In effect, it would also bar any non-theists from marriage as well, unless they sucked it up and had a religious wedding.

Here we go again...... back on a subject that never did come up?????um,,,um,,,ump


Blade

 

[Frothingslosh]

And here is a large part of America's problem:

 

[Bladerunner]

And here is a large part of America's problem:

Here I will have to agree with you Frothy!!!!!

and I would bet that Satan has neither a social security number, drivers license and is most certainly an illegal alien (a criminal).

Blade

 

[Frothingslosh]

And let's not forget this one being another aspect of the problem:

 

[Frothingslosh]

You know, I remember someone going on a binge of image posts just a few weeks ago. What a great idea!

 

[Frothingslosh]

One of my personal favorites:

Something that too many Americans have forgotten:

And something too many Christians have forgotten:

Fun times, fun times.

I may have to break out some of the more edgy ones soon!

 

[Brianwarnock]

I like them Frothy, but they will have no impact on closed minds.

I cannot help but notice that the two Americans who are most fervent gun owners are also Bible thumpers as we say here, I think that they are also both from the southern states, which fulfils a believe held by many over here but which I thought was a myth.

Brian