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[Mike Krailo]

I live in MAGA country. I see the nationalist Trump flags waving in the back of their MAGA pickups.

Do you ever talk to anyone in your neighborhood and have a civil conversation that allows you to see someone else's point of view? Can you have an open mind?

I think we can both agree on this simple statement:
Garbage in, garbage out.

Any garbage information we get from any of our news sources is going to create garbage out conclusions. You obviously are labeling people as nationalists which is a term that the left has brought to the forefront for political division reasons. Everything the left does tries to divide us. I would rather we all discuss things civilly and preferably face to face as there is more natural respect given in person. Doing this online is is too easy to go into your corner and honker down or throw around insults. I'm guilty of it myself, but I really think people need to at least see one another on the common ground we share instead of immediately jumping into the differences. It's not easy, but I sure wish we would try.

I see there are comments made online for various YouTube videos dealing with politics and you would think there is not a human being on the other side of the keyboard. It's that bad. I think the only way to get around this is more face to face discussion. Not shouting protester mobs either, as that is just talking over one another and solves nothing.

 

[ColinEssex]

I live in MAGA country.

Doc said MAGA is a phrase. But your post indicates it is an area of a state. Its very confusing to foreigners.
Col

 

[Thales750]

I do, all the time.
I live in a Marina, that also has an RV resort attached to it. We congregate all the time. The Trump worshipers are by far the worst. Maybe it's because our LGPT folks are intimidated by the MAGA rednecks.

Do you ever talk to anyone in your neighborhood and have a civil conversation that allows you to see someone else's point of view? Can you have an open mind?

I think we can both agree on this simple statement:
Garbage in, garbage out.

Any garbage information we get from any of our news sources is going to create garbage out conclusions. You obviously are labeling people as nationalists which is a term that the left has brought to the forefront for political division reasons. Everything the left does tries to divide us. I would rather we all discuss things civilly and preferably face to face as there is more natural respect given in person. Doing this online is is too easy to go into your corner and honker down or throw around insults. I'm guilty of it myself, but I really think people need to at least see one another on the common ground we share instead of immediately jumping into the differences. It's not easy, but I sure wish we would try.

I see there are comments made online for various YouTube videos dealing with politics and you would think there is not a human being on the other side of the keyboard. It's that bad. I think the only way to get around this is more face to face discussion. Not shouting protester mobs either, as that is just talking over one another and solves nothing.

Doc said MAGA is a phrase. But your post indicates it is an area of a state. Its very confusing to foreigners.
Col

Down here in Southeast Texas, MAGA worship runs rampant, like a water moccasin on the 4th of July. Riding around with their Pride Banners on the Back of their pickups. And, like everything else MAGA, only they have the right to force their beliefs on everyone.

It's definitely a fascist intimidation tactic. But OMG we can't have no WOKE pride flags. Not that I actually want to see either of them.

 

[Thales750]

What crown? Please explain.

The short answers is the investor crowd. If you are interested in hearing my analysis of the workings of the macro economy, I would be happy to write it for you.

 

[Jon]

If you are interested in hearing my analysis of the workings of the macro economy, I would be happy to write it for you.

Can you tell us about tariffs again? Us MAGAs just don't understand them.

 

[Thales750]

I think that everyone who wants to stop using fossil fuel should do so immediately. You can do it. Don't be a hypocrite. Set an example for the rest of us. Get rid of your car. Replace it with a bicycle and walk or ride everywhere. Fill your living quarters with illegal aliens. Plant a garden in your yard. Stop eating meat and meat products. No leather shoes, purses, or belts! That would be cheating. Get rid of every piece of clothing you own that isn't made of cotton or silk or other natural fiber. I guess using wool is OK because you don't have to kill the animal to harvest the wool. Bring your standard of living down to around the 17th century before the industrial revolution. You'll have to burn wood for heat and cooking or move to a warmer climate since we really don't want to burn all the trees and release all that carbon into the air. Look what happened to Haiti and Easter Island. You can't even use peat since that is technically a fossil fuel.

Good job, you have taken the time to offer a rebuttal that mirrors the ridiculous nature of the point you are rebutting.
It's these kinds of statements that make it truly impossible to talk to you. Every answer you have is an extreme reaction.

There must be a common ground.

I understand that using logic with people that have none is difficult, but maybe you could try.

Here is a couple of questions for you.

Is there ever any doubt in people's mind as to how far right you are?
Does anyone left of Atilla the Hun ever accuse you of being centrist?

I know you won't believe this but I do all the time, in fact there are many on the left that would think i am firmly with the Right.

Do you have an immediate emotional response to ridiculous liberal garbage?

 

[Thales750]

Can you tell us about tariffs again? Us MAGAs just don't understand them.

That's a good one.

 

[Thales750]

Do you ever talk to anyone in your neighborhood and have a civil conversation that allows you to see someone else's point of view? Can you have an open mind?

I think we can both agree on this simple statement:
Garbage in, garbage out.

Any garbage information we get from any of our news sources is going to create garbage out conclusions. You obviously are labeling people as nationalists which is a term that the left has brought to the forefront for political division reasons. Everything the left does tries to divide us. I would rather we all discuss things civilly and preferably face to face as there is more natural respect given in person. Doing this online is is too easy to go into your corner and honker down or throw around insults. I'm guilty of it myself, but I really think people need to at least see one another on the common ground we share instead of immediately jumping into the differences. It's not easy, but I sure wish we would try.

I see there are comments made online for various YouTube videos dealing with politics and you would think there is not a human being on the other side of the keyboard. It's that bad. I think the only way to get around this is more face to face discussion. Not shouting protester mobs either, as that is just talking over one another and solves nothing.

I agree with you about the divisive nature of certain terms. Truly though, Conservatives lead the fold when it comes to divisive labels. We should look that up.

 

[Isaac]

Doc said MAGA is a phrase. But your post indicates it is an area of a state. Its very confusing to foreigners.
Col

Col, "maga" is just a derogatory thing at this point that liberals call anyone voting Republican, it means little to nothing any more. saying "___ country" just means a part of the country with a lot of whatever-it-is.

 

[Isaac]

LGPT folks are intimidated by the MAGA rednecks

If they are rednecks why are all the business people behind Republicans generally?

And what the heck is an LGPT folk? Is this the latest thing I must wear a tshirt to Affirm or something?

 

[ColinEssex]

Col, "maga" is just a derogatory thing at this point that liberals call anyone voting Republican, it means little to nothing any more. saying "___ country" just means a part of the country with a lot of whatever-it-is.

Thanks, got it now. Its an anti-trump thing.
Col

 

[ColinEssex]

Why are Americans full of acronyms and initials? Are you too lazy to say the proper meaning? If you refer to a state, you can't be bothered to say it properly, you reduce it to two letters. So someone has an election mantra, that gets reduced to initials. How about POTUS or VPOTUS? It's very confusing. There must be dozens of others. MAGA could be Make Australia Great Again, or Andorra, or Angola or Austria.
It's such a shame Americans can't speak correct English without ruining it.
Col

 

[Thales750]

See, there you are, devolving to name calling. This is what you say that conservatives do but the reality of it is that you are the one alienating the people who are trying to have a rational discussion with you.

Why do you think you own LGPT folks? And why do you think that MAGA supporters are rednecks? What kind of a slur is "redneck" anyway. What if we brought back the term "n*gg**"? How would that go over? At least "rednecks" don't think they own any.

Is that another slur? Is it possible for you to read what you write with a critical eye? Is it wrong to care about how the government spends the money it takes from me at g*npoint? Is it wrong to think that you shouldn't be deciding on whether or not to kill a baby after it is born? Is it wrong to think that a country without borders isn't a country at all? Is it wrong to believe the Bill of Rights has meaning?

What are you talking about??????? Listen to yourself. Who is forcing you to believe anything. You are participating in a conversation, although it just seems like a way for you to distribute slurs. Instead of attacking people you think you disagree with, why not engage in a conversation that does not end every time with you calling people names. Why not try to explain why YOUR solutions are better, cheaper, faster, more efficient? whatever? Maybe, if you actually think about what you think the solution to a problem is, you will see the gaps in the execution plan and maybe rework the solution so something that has a short, medium, and long term goals. Maybe spending my life listening to people's problems and helping them with solutions has warped my thinking. Goals are silly. Let's just go with virtue signalling. I'll feel better.

Apparently hyperbole is too subtle for you so I apologize for the intellectual challenge.

Wow, I truly have never in my life known someone that is so obsessed with being right as you are.
Champion it is. You win all debates, lets hope the Savior get's elected to office.

 

[Thales750]

If they are rednecks why are all the business people behind Republicans generally?

And what the heck is an LGPT folk? Is this the latest thing I must wear a tshirt to Affirm or something?

I know you are being funny.
I probably got the initials wrong.
There is a distinction between MAGA and MAGA Rednecks, but the Rednecks are much more verbose.

 

[Thales750]

I think there is a significant possibility that either the dollar will be joined by other Currencies as the World's Reserve. Which will force changes as yet not seen for a hundred years.
Or, WW3 is on it's way.
Or, both.

Hard to say which one would be worse for either of those things.

 

[AccessBlaster]

 

[Thales750]

Col, "maga" is just a derogatory thing at this point that liberals call anyone voting Republican, it means little to nothing any more. saying "___ country" just means a part of the country with a lot of whatever-it-is.

Not just liberals, not by a long shot. Many, if not most, Americans view MAGA as a cult.

 

[Steve R.]

Not just liberals, not by a long shot. Many, if not most, Americans view MAGA as a cult.

Evidence?
Seems that those passionately following Biden constitute a cult. They seem to be possessed by the Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)
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[The_Doc_Man]

Why are Americans full of acronyms and initials? Are you too lazy to say the proper meaning? If you refer to a state, you can't be bothered to say it properly, you reduce it to two letters. So someone has an election mantra, that gets reduced to initials. How about POTUS or VPOTUS? It's very confusing. There must be dozens of others. MAGA could be Make Australia Great Again, or Andorra, or Angola or Austria.
It's such a shame Americans can't speak correct English without ruining it.
Col

Col, I worked as a Navy contractor for 28 1/2 years. I saw so many acronyms that I saw more letters than a large can of Campbell's Alphabet Soup. But acronyms serve two purposes. For those in the know, it is a fast way of talking about something. And it makes for perfect obfuscation to people who are NOT among the cognoscenti. It is a modern form of the secret language that kids make up when they set up a clubhouse. And of course, the cognoscenti thumb their noses at us when they see our eyes glaze over after a while. They can more easily identify the "outsiders" when they use their secret language.

 

[AccessBlaster]

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