Biden Ends Presidential Bid. (1 Viewer)

[Isaac]

I love JD Vance's idea of giving people with children extra votes. It's true, as much as it enrages MSNBC to hear it, but it's absolutely 110% true - those with children are more invested in pretty much everything, including the future of the country. This is not said to denigrate those without children, it's just facing facts. To those who never started a family of their own, family and parenting and children's issues will always be abstract.

As much as I face staunch opposition to this idea, I must say our voting system would probably benefit from an overhaul. There should be weight given to things that show you have skin in the game. Paying taxes and having children are reasonable places to start; if you're paying no taxes it's all too easy to keep voting for the party that taxes other people and gives you the proceeds..

 

[Thales750]

You mean the democratic "destroy this country with immigrants" view?

Try to find some house builder guys without them. LOL

I'm wanting to get out of Custom Homes and build something for middle class people. Without Mexicans, it will not happen.
You want to stop illegal aliens working here, make them legal. That should have happened back in Regan's time, when Republicans still had some sanity left.

Before they ushered in the ages of political insanity and bad reporting one upmanship.

I was a Republican then, Keneth Star and his witch hunt changed all that. Pretty much he was the one that started all this, going after the other side using, what does MAGA call it?

Oh yeah, Weaponizing the Justice Dept.

Y'all invented it to Impeach the President, and than you get all huffy when it was turned against your Guy.

 

[Thales750]

And I have family who are immigrants looking for work, so I know something about that world too. Most people working construction are verified using the everify system just like everyone else. They get a SSN to use as if it is theirs. It works, but is also serious felony identity theft in most states. Most of them working construction are NOT working with the owner's knowledge that they are illegal and a wink and a nod; they are using real SSNs of some kind. I know because my inlaw who is looking for work has been 100% unsuccessful in finding those jobs where you can be totally undocumented and work there anyway - the Truth is, those place don't exist for the most part any more. They used to, but the penalties for employers are very severe, so that whole aspect of the discussion is so 20 years ago.

Please note, never once, I don't think, have I said that illegal immigrants were "taking American jobs". I don't buy that part of the argument, so your preaching to the choir by keeping on hinting at that aspect of it. We all know right now the problem is convincing white people to even WORK - and certainly nobody is taking their jobs. There are far more jobs than we can fill right now, anyone who wants a job has one; anyone who doesn't have one doesn't want one. (another reason to reign in the welfare state a bit).

We still can't have an insecure border encouraged with a wink and a nod from liberal presidents who make sure life is pretty easy for the masses who cross.

Did you just combine 2 of my posts into one?

 

[Thales750]

And I have family who are immigrants looking for work, so I know something about that world too. Most people working construction are verified using the everify system just like everyone else. They get a SSN to use as if it is theirs. It works, but is also serious felony identity theft in most states. Most of them working construction are NOT working with the owner's knowledge that they are illegal and a wink and a nod; they are using real SSNs of some kind. I know because my inlaw who is looking for work has been 100% unsuccessful in finding those jobs where you can be totally undocumented and work there anyway - the Truth is, those place don't exist for the most part any more. They used to, but the penalties for employers are very severe, so that whole aspect of the discussion is so 20 years ago.

Please note, never once, I don't think, have I said that illegal immigrants were "taking American jobs". I don't buy that part of the argument, so your preaching to the choir by keeping on hinting at that aspect of it. We all know right now the problem is convincing white people to even WORK - and certainly nobody is taking their jobs. There are far more jobs than we can fill right now, anyone who wants a job has one; anyone who doesn't have one doesn't want one. (another reason to reign in the welfare state a bit).

We still can't have an insecure border encouraged with a wink and a nod from liberal presidents who make sure life is pretty easy for the masses who cross.

I know how this works. I have been simply saying that the people in Congress don't want this fixed. It's too powerful of a tool to keep people on both sides of the aisle to pay attention the the issues that have more moderates solutions. God forbid that we should actually stop all this petty bickering and elect the folks that would actually look after us.

 

[Thales750]

I love JD Vance's idea of giving people with children extra votes. It's true, as much as it enrages MSNBC to hear it, but it's absolutely 110% true - those with children are more invested in pretty much everything, including the future of the country. This is not said to denigrate those without children, it's just facing facts. To those who never started a family of their own, family and parenting and children's issues will always be abstract.

As much as I face staunch opposition to this idea, I must say our voting system would probably benefit from an overhaul. There should be weight given to things that show you have skin in the game. Paying taxes and having children are reasonable places to start; if you're paying no taxes it's all too easy to keep voting for the party that taxes other people and gives you the proceeds..

There is only one solution to our election problems.

There needs to be a public fund set up that pays for all candidate's campaigns equally. A small tax to raise a billion or so ($3 each) and no more contribution above $100, no more Super PACS, no more Citizens United.

The whole thing would be straightened out in one election cycle. Beholden to the People, what a concept.

 

[Thales750]

The fix was implemented by Trump and your hero wreaked it.

My here. ?
And who would that be?

 

[Steve R.]

 

[moke123]

Can't white wash this record

 

[AccessBlaster]

When will he be sentenced?

 

[moke123]

When will he be sentenced?

I know. It's hard to keep track. September.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I know. It's hard to keep track. September.

Why September?

 

[Steve R.]

Can't white wash this record

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A bogus, highly flawed, persecution of Trump in the spirit of a Stalinist show trial in the now defunct Soviet Union.
The attempt to prevent Trump from being placed on the election ballots went down in flames, as this bogus "conviction" will too.
The Democrats have been unethically abusing the rule of law by using lawfare to cripple Trump's reelection bid.
See the thread: Trump Indictment.

 

[Thales750]

Is there a way to download these threads? i thought a i saw a PDF download somewhere.

 

[AccessBlaster]

They're doing their best to memory hole kamala's record. I don't think it's going to work her record is been under scrutiny for decades.

 

[moke123]

What will you say when the higher court throws the whole thing out?

Gee, i don't know Pat. Could you be more specific on the legal basis, not the maga basis, for overturning the juries verdict?

What about the Supreme Court's ruling that for a criminal case the verdict needs to be unanimous?

Are you saying it wasn't unanimous?

In Trump's case, the judge gave the jury ridiculous instructions

What were they and which ones do you feel were ridiculous and why?

there was no charge that was ever proven by the prosecution.

Which charges didn't they prove?

I don't think it's going to work her record is been under scrutiny for decades.

And yet she was elected VP, go figure.

 

[AccessBlaster]

And yet she was elected VP, go figure.

Riddle me this: Why are they so sensitive about her non-border record

 

[Mike Krailo]

Unfortunately, the useless idiots will continue with all the lies and pushed propaganda because that's the game they play. Do whatever it takes to win at all costs and divide the nation. They don't even realize that this very attitude is what is costing them the election. If the democrats have any good idea's policy wise, let's hear them. My guess, is we will continue to hear the same old BS and never really discuss the issues at hand. They have already decided that the deplorables are not capable of understanding what is good for them, so she has to force it down all of our throats whether we like it or not.

The latest insane thing from the assassination attempt investigation by the FBI has Christopher Ray stating that it may not have been a bullet that struck the president, but could have been shrapnel? There's no common sense in that statement and it only proves beyond a shadow of a doubt how corrupted that organization is. Shrapnel from what? He just makes a nonsensical statement that makes no sense at all and gives nothing else to back up this ridiculous suggestion. The very first bullet hit trumps ear and then that hydraulic line far away from where he was. The picture with a bullet whizzing by his head came from the shooters direction and not the other way around.

Regardless of who wins the election, we cannot be effective as a country without being united from the peoples perspective irrespective of politics. Politics are inherently corrupt because, that corruption is the elites goose that keeps laying the golden eggs for them. Taking our money and serving their purposes is all they know how to do.

 

[Steve R.]

Can't white wash this record

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This will be easily "white washed" and disappear into oblivion since it was a bogus case and based on lawfare. I couldn't find the Weinstein story earlier so it was not in my earlier post. Unfortunately the hyperlink for showing the header contains the forbidden word ra**, so it does not show-up.
Harvey Weinstein ra** conviction overturned by NY appeals court (Fox News Published April 25, 2024 9:27am EDT)
The significance of this case, is that the case may be easily overturned for the reasons below:

In a 4-3 decision, the appeals court found that Weinstein's trial judge allowed prosecutors to call women who said Weinstein had assaulted them to testify, even though their accusations did not specifically relate to the entertainment mogul's charges.

Harvey Weinstein, Donald Trump, and Evidence of Past Misconduct

New York’s high court overturned the producer’s conviction. Will that affect the Trump trial?

www.brennancenter.org

In a 4–3 decision last week, the New York Court of Appeals overturned film producer Harvey Weinstein’s sex-crimes conviction. The court said that the trial judge made two critical errors. First, he allowed the jury to hear too much about Weinstein’s alleged prior sexual assaults, which were not among the charges and tainted the jury’s opinion. Second, by allowing the prosecutors to question Weinstein about certain alleged prior misconduct if he chose to testify, the trial judge created an unfair disincentive for the movie mogul to take the stand in his own defense.

What is also significant, is that Bragg knew that the legal strategy he was implementing was contrary to the NY appeals court decision, but he did it anyway. I believe the reason for that is that the Democrats wanted a conviction now and did not care if it was overturned later on appeal after the November presidential election. Bragg was simply trying to taint Trump as a despicable person to discourage voters from voting for Trump. That is election vile interference and an abuse of the legal system.

 

[Steve R.]

Gee, i don't know Pat. Could you be more specific on the legal basis, not the maga basis, for overturning the juries verdict?

When a prosecutor presents a contorted illegitimate case to a jury and it is then successfully appealed that is not "overturning the juries verdict" per se since the jury was gaslighted into making the "wrong" verdict.

 

[moke123]

This will be easily "white washed" since it was a bogus case and base based on lawfare. I couldn't find the Weinstein story earlier so it was not in my earlier post. Unfortunately the hyperlink for showing the header contains the forbidden word ra**, so it does not show-up.
Harvey Weinstein ra** conviction overturned by NY appeals court (Fox News Published April 25, 2024 9:27am EDT)
The significance of this case, is that the case may be easily overturned for the reasons below:

Harvey Weinstein, Donald Trump, and Evidence of Past Misconduct

New York’s high court overturned the producer’s conviction. Will that affect the Trump trial?

www.brennancenter.org

What is also significant, is that Bragg knew that the legal strategy he was implementing was contrary to the NY appeals court decision, but he did it anyway. I believe the reason for that is that the Democrats wanted a conviction now and did not care if it was overturned later on appeal after the November presidential election. Bragg was simply trying to taint Trump as a despicable person to discourage voters from voting for Trump. That is election vile interference and an abuse of the legal system.

Prior bad acts and admissibility are litigated all the time, in nearly all criminal cases. In weinsteins case I believe there was testimony of uncharged acts wherein in trumps case the bad acts were all after a finding.