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I came across an article recently that sparked a flash of inspiration. It was about drones becoming harder to detect, and how researchers may have found an unlikely solution to improve detection ranges.

www.abc.net.au

Drones are getting harder to detect, but researchers may have found an unlikely solution

Drones are getting more stealthy, and detection technology is struggling to keep up. Now researchers are reporting a marked improvement in detection ranges, thanks to an unlikely source.
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Tesla, meanwhile, has taken a bold path in developing software that can drive a car. Unlike most of the industry, which leans heavily on lidar, Tesla relies solely on cameras combined with advanced software to interpret what those cameras see.

But it’s not just about recognizing images. Tesla’s system builds a vector space from those images, assigning trajectories to objects and predicting their movement—very much like how humans anticipate motion in the world around them.

This is how Tesla is building Full Self-Driving (FSD): a camera-based approach that defies conventional wisdom yet continues to push boundaries.

And here’s where my inspiration struck. Reading about drone detection, I realized that Tesla’s FSD technology could be adapted far beyond cars. Imagine using it for security at military bases, or even for home protection systems.

Right now, the software runs on powerful computer systems designed to control a two-ton vehicle. But eventually, it will be condensed into a dedicated chip—perfect for integration into robots, just as Elon Musk has hinted.

Back in 2013, I blogged about Google’s self-driving car project. At the time, I predicted that their software would eventually evolve into robotics. My prediction was sound, but I picked the wrong company. It’s Tesla, not Google, that’s making that leap.

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The amazing Google Car

You may well ask as I did why on earth Google are spending time and money creating a self driving car? My first Conclusion: Well it is an...
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Elon Musk continues to surprise and inspire. Elon, Elon, Elon… I’m definitely an Elon fan!
 
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I'm not convinced we should have FSD cars on a populated roadway. BUT... an automated FSD robotic planetary explorer? That, I could see in a heartbeat.
 
I remember in I, Robot when the rebelling robots turned off everyone's car. That got me thinking!
 
Alfa Romeo’s Take on Self-Driving Cars


Alfa Romeo released this commercial in 2021 as part of their marketing strategy to highlight the brand’s focus on driving pleasure over excessive tech.
By showing a man frustrated with an AI-powered car, the ad cleverly taps into the growing consumer frustration with overly complicated vehicle technology.
The moment he switches to an Alfa Romeo emphasizes the brand’s core message: a simpler, more enjoyable driving experience.

It’s smart marketing, positioning Alfa Romeo as the go-to choice for those who just want to drive.
From: #Technology
 
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KitaYama said:
growing consumer frustration with overly complicated vehicle technology.
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I couldn't agree more. I'd be the first on line to buy a simple no frills car. The less that can break the better. I've had more than my fair share of sport and luxury cars with all the bells and whistles. But things break. I don't want to lose use of my car while I wait for an appointment to get it fixed. I'd rather be able to dive right in and fix it myself in an hour and for 1/3 the price.

As far as self driving cars, No thanks. Apparently tesla has cut the subscription price from $199 a month to $99 a month, again no thanks.
What does the insurance cost?

I recently saw a report about the cyber truck in New England where the stainless steel panels are falling off in the cold as the glue that holds them on is failing.

www.cybertruckownersclub.com

Cybertruck Stainless Panels are falling off ...Is this a new phenomena?

As a potential CT buyer, this is alarming:
www.cybertruckownersclub.com www.cybertruckownersclub.com
 
moke123 said:
I couldn't agree more. I'd be the first on line to buy a simple no frills car. The less that can break the better. I've had more than my fair share of sport and luxury cars with all the bells and whistles. But things break. I don't want to lose use of my car while I wait for an appointment to get it fixed. I'd rather be able to dive right in and fix it myself in an hour and for 1/3 the price.

As far as self driving cars, No thanks. Apparently tesla has cut the subscription price from $199 a month to $99 a month, again no thanks.
What does the insurance cost?

I recently saw a report about the cyber truck in New England where the stainless steel panels are falling off in the cold as the glue that holds them on is failing.

www.cybertruckownersclub.com

Cybertruck Stainless Panels are falling off ...Is this a new phenomena?

As a potential CT buyer, this is alarming:
www.cybertruckownersclub.com www.cybertruckownersclub.com
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I was just thinking this today. Too many products have become "high tech" ALL 'round, with zero offerings for those who want a cheaper option.
Example, every new vehicle having a backup camera. But some of these things happen because with every possibility the regulators get starry eyed and begin demanding it be included on all new cars.
To some extent the manufacturers seem to think that everyone would like every new vehicle to be "loaded" - and maybe they are right, maybe it's just me.
But I'd love to have them remove a half dozen high tech stuff from a car and entry level it at $17k. In other countries they still do. But I'd like the vehicles to still meet USA crash standards from a mechanical/structural perspective.


Then on top of that they leave off the common sense stuff like a spare tire and a cupholder. :rolleyes:
 
moke123 said:
As far as self driving cars, No thanks.
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Completely agree. A Tesla in our area in self-driving mode failed to merge out of a lane that was ending. Drove up on the curb and had a close encounter with a pole. Never slowed down or swerved.

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which is consistent with its design to hand control back in tricky scenarios.
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Down side to this approach is you would need to make sure the "Driver" is able to take control in a timely manner. As a timing issue, I would guess many drivers would need 3 to 5 seconds to register what action needs to be taken and then do something about it. If your in a position to react more quickly, what would the advantage be to "Self driving"?

Better to have a system that identifies problems, warns of them, and takes action to prevent a collision than something that turns off just before an accident.

In a DB analogy, this comes across much more as a very efficient system to alert a user they entered bad data AFTER it has been written to disk rather than validating BEFORE it occurs.

Far more useful on unmanned vehicles, especially ones that won't be sharing the road / sky / sea with manned craft.
 
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No human could have avoided this accident... But FSD did!!!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901781127762940304
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First of all let me start by saying I'm not against FSD. I absolutely think it's the future. So what I'm going to tell, is not because of I'm against it.
I also am not sure my observation is correct or not. It's all a guess.

Me, being on SNS for hours and hours everyday, I've seen so many AI generated clips that I really doubt any unusual thing I watch.
The clip you showed us is so suspicious. The surfaces, the head lights, the back lights, the wall at the right side of the high way, the colors, everything makes me uncomfortable with what I see there.

If you open the clip full screen, you may feel the same.
First of all the clip seems to be in a high way in China. The two big green sign in the middle of the road, and the one in the right side of the screen is written in Chinese. Tesla is rolling out advanced self-driving features in China, including autopilot on city streets, but it's not the full "Full Self-Driving" (FSD) system offered in the US, and there are some limitations due to data security concerns. So if it's in China, that clip is absolutely fake.
But, it may be filmed in Taiwan which use the same alphabet for writing. If it's in Taiwan, it may be true. But there are so many other points.

Some other points:
Everything in that clip is so clear if you open it in full screen on a large monitor, except the car number plates and the writings. No matter how much the car get close to camera, the number plates seem to be not real. It doesn't seem plates have been blurred for privacy reasons. If you play it one frame at a time, you may notice it too. In China (and I assume any other country), number plates have lights, which none of these cars have.

There are other points too. For example the digital 100KM speed limit at the left side of the high way is much more readable than those big green signs in the middle of the road. The camera has a fixed resolution and I don't think anybody can explain the difference between the clarity of the samll speed limit sign and the big green road maps. In fact the writing on those big signs should be more readable than a small 100KM.

The white solid line at left and right of the road, when the car gets near to it, at that speed, it's so unreal.
When the clip shows what is seen from Tesla's inner cam (front view), it doesn't seem to be a foggy night, but when the clip changes to back side (rear and side views), all the head lights give the impression of a foggy night.
Also the sign board of the buildings around the road. etc etc.

Again I'm not sure. But I give a high possibility of this clip being AI generated.
And again, I'm not trying to say FSD is not safe. It's only my observation from that clip.
 
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While it may seem cool to have an FSD car there is one overwhelming reason I would never drive one.
I would not want to lose my house and everything I have accumulated in my lifetime. I have an umbrella policy in addition to regular liability policies and I doubt they would be sufficient to cover the damages should I cause a deadly accident while using FSD. The article below mentions some lawsuits that should be heard soon so we'll see.

www.rollingstone.com

Tesla to Unveil 'Robotaxi' While Facing Flood of Lawsuits Over 'Self-Driving' Accidents

Tesla is slated to go to trial over 'self-driving' injury lawsuits even as it bets on an autonomous robotaxi.
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Why Tesla doesn't sell good in China. They have their own methods.

 
If the road infrastructure was broad and robust enough (no where near having that anytime soon), all the self driving cars can be limited to special self driver lanes in the center section of the roadways. When the technology becomes superior, this would completely allow truck drivers to be hands off during the majority part of the trip until getting off the highway where mingling with regular drivers require human driver for safety purposes. I don't think human truck drivers will go away for a very long time into the future. More important than self driving is security of the load that is being carried which requires something much more than just self driving. I guess it could be armed robots, but now things are getting too advanced for my liking.

The speed and separation between vehicles in the self driving lanes could be coordinated into a regulated network of self drivers in such a way as to maximize safety. When your in the network, you don't have any control over the vehicle, the network does. The only control you have is to decide to disengage from the network and leave those center lanes so you can take an exit ramp.

If we choose to utilize self driving technology in our family vehicles, we would simply go into the appropriate lane with all the other self driving units. I really would not use the technology off of the highway domain. To many crazy human drivers and starting and stopping, and that requires your best judgment and reflexes at your disposal.
 
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