A day in the life of an Englishman...

[Uncle Gizmo]

I'll tell you a little story......

https://twitter.com/x/status/1829872451989483683

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Not that different from some of the stuff we hear from the USA inner city regions on our east and west coasts.

Some of the names are different, but some of that could come straight from our newspaper headlines.

 

[Isaac]

Wow that's sad I particularly identified with the places where the better person will get in trouble while the worst person is considered the victim. That's what's happening with a lot of crime these days. For example the homeowner will get in trouble for self-defense because of the poor victimized Intruder

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

The victim of the graffiti gets the fine if he doesn't clean it off quickly enough even when the perp is on video.

So if you have a neighbourhood covered in ugly looking tents, why is the government not brought to task for leaving such a mess, when they consider it an offence for a business owner to leave unsightly graffiti, painted by a criminal on their premises?

 

[ColinEssex]

Sometimes I pine for the days of the wild west where if the townsfolk were unhappy with the mayor, they would just run him out of town and elect a new one.

Surely the modern American way is to just assassinate them, get a sniper to do it, from what we see on TV there's plenty of deranged Americans who will oblige.
Col

 

[The_Doc_Man]

One of the more famous assassinations in history started World War I and (surprise, Col!) the assassin wasn't from the USA. I know you won't believe it, but we don't own the franchise on assassinations or attempts thereof.

Actually, several events led up to that moment. Archduke Ferdinand was visiting Bosnia at the time and was killed. The archduke was visiting Bosnia because of the recent annexation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and a Bosnian student named Gavrilo Princip actually did the deed, though there was a conspiracy among at least six people engaging in political activism.

Other outside-the-USA killings of people for political purposes...

Jamal Khashoggi - internationally prominent journalist killed in Istanbul, presumably because he was anti-Saudi-royal-family
Tsar Alexander II of Russia (by a revolutionary group)
Empress Elisabeth of the Austrian/Hungarian empire (by an Italian group)
Giacomo Matteotti of Italy (by Mussolini's allies)
Mahatma Ghandi of India (by Sikh forces)
Indira Ghandi of India (was Prime Minister at the time; by Sikh forces)
Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan (took two tries to get him)
Aldo Moro of Italy (was Prime Minister at the time)
And how can we forget Julius Caesar, killed by his own senate and his friend Brutus?

That is enough of a list to show that the USA isn't unique in the world when it comes to political killings.

 

[Isaac]

there's plenty of deranged Americans who will oblige.

Yes

 

[ColinEssex]

I don't think we assassinate many of our own politicians.

I thought JFK and Bobby Kennedy were politicians. Then the attempt on Reagan. Was it Lincoln assassinated in a theatre? Does Trump count as a politician? But the most important assassination was John Lennon - not a politician true, but worldwide is much more important than any of the others. The USA will never be forgiven for that.
Col

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I thought JFK and Bobby Kennedy were politicians. Then the attempt on Reagan. Was it Lincoln assassinated in a theatre? Does Trump count as a politician?

I didn't say we didn't have political assassinations. We just don't have the franchisee rights.

Can't totally disagree about the tragedy of John Lennon.

 

[ColinEssex]

I didn't say we didn't have political assassinations. We just don't have the franchisee rights.

I never said you did.
Because we are flooded with Z rated American TV programmes that always show killings violence and assassination, plus what we see on the BBC news and in the papers. Plus people here admit to gun ownership and the keenness to kill someone like a burglar, but at the same time admit to being Christian - what was that commandment? Ah yes, thou shalt not kill, except if you're a gun slinging Yank.
So I just made a joke, which prompted a patronising post from Doc and of course Pat had to get in there too because Col dared to make a lighthearted comment.
Col

 

[Isaac]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830659416615788716

Hilarious, Harris debut a brand new accent today

 

[Steve R.]

 

[AccessBlaster]

Remember Hillary speaking at the all black church? Cringe squared.

 

[ColinEssex]

I agree Pat.
Wherever you are in the world you need to be careful, especially if you're not familiar with the area. It's the same in the UK, Spain, France or wherever.
Of course you don't run round waving guns and shooting. I'm not that stupid, I don't know why the USA TV programme makers project that image, its boring and wrong.
Col

 

[Isaac]

Because we are flooded with Z rated American TV programmes

No, I think more accurately stated you are flooded with information about America, presented by your world-infamous British tabloids, which are garbage and dramatize everything. That's probably why you think all Americans wear cowboy boots and walk around dueling.

 

[CJ_London]

we assume that is normal.

Please don’t include the rest of the UK in your assumptions

 

[ColinEssex]

Forget it then. Sorry I spoke. I've deleted the post as it doesn't meet your approval. I forgot you represent the UK populace.

 

[ColinEssex]

Colin, as I have said many times, you are entitled to your opinions whether any of us agree or not and this is the water cooler. Your jokes tend to fall flat because they are invariably mean-spirited so I would suggest that you don't quit your day job to go into comedy.

I dont have a job. I scrounge off the state. You know, the people you hate and shouldn't be allowed to vote because we're second class citizens.
Col

 

[Isaac]

What would be nice is if only proposals to spend money were the ones where voting was limited to people who paid taxes.

There, is that a softer, gentler approach compared to my previous idea about voting vs. paying taxes in general?

 

[Isaac]

Yeah, the no tax on tips is as bad of an idea (non-politically speaking) as forgiving student loans was. What about the people who make the same amount of money but not in tips? They pay taxes, but the tip-ees don't? Unfair.
But politically speaking, it plays well