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Democrats bending themselves into pretzels defending kamala non-record is very entertaining.
All that anyone should care about is can she beat Trump. I don't mean that in a anyone-but-Trump kind of way.
I mean it as how do moderates and independents see which side compromises our world veiw.
And sees the danger in the court being swung even further to the right.
 
The border problem is a completely political fabrication.
It is not a "political fabrication". Millions have entered the US illegally. They are costing us $$$$$ and causing environmental degradation. The Democrats have refused to prevent the illegal immigration, in fact they have supported illegal immigration. That is a violation of the rule of law.
 
However, critics cited Axios' own reporting from 2021 saying that Biden had appointed Harris "border czar." Axios later added an editor's note stating "This article has been updated and clarified to note that Axios was among the news outlets that incorrectly labeled Harris a ‘border czar’ in 2021."

"The propaganda press working so hard to erase the fact that Kamala Harris was put in charge of the border shows not only what a vulnerability her role in the border is but also what a huge vulnerability her general incompetence is," The Federalist editor-in-chief Mollie Hemingway reacted on X.
 
Imagine not doing her job is her only accomplishment in politics. This is way worse than sleepy.
 
The border problem is a completely political fabrication.

Let's see... an influx of people who have no jobs, no money, may have trouble with the language, and we don't even have a reasonable way to do a thorough background check. So total unknowns coming into our country needing food and shelter, but with no way to reimburse us for our largesse. Am I tracking so far? This political fabrication has reached the point that Texas is suing the federal government for the right to enforce the federal laws that the federal government itself won't enforce. We now have ...

11.35 million total undocumented immigrants as of 2022
That number grew to its 2022 level after 1.13 more undocumented immigrants came in between January 2021 and January 2022.


It may be completely political, but because of lax border policy, and considering minimum wage in some states is $15/hour, or $30K per year, that is roughly $30 BILLION dollars of support. You can claim that some of the immigrants are children, but that would ADD to support needs given the odds that some of those kids will not have been vaccinated in their home countries and therefore will need extra medical attention.

Because they broke federal laws to enter our country without proper documentation, they are criminals. This fabrication caused the mayors of several major northern cities to howl in protest when some of the immigrants were dropped off in "sanctuary cities." Yep, a total fabrication.
 
You've stated the current policy very clear.

The reality is two million new illegals are threat to the nation's well being. Not some imaginary political talking point.

Silly liberals.
The reality is simple. The fix was rejected by conservative in Congress because Trump pressured them to wait until after the election. I'm not in any way a liberal, only the dogma from the ultra far right describes me that way.
 
The reality is simple. The fix was rejected by conservative in Congress because Trump pressured them to wait until after the election. I'm not in any way a liberal, only the dogma from the ultra far right describes me that way.

The fix was implemented by Trump and your hero wreaked it.
 
It is not a "political fabrication". Millions have entered the US illegally. They are costing us $$$$$ and causing environmental degradation. The Democrats have refused to prevent the illegal immigration, in fact they have supported illegal immigration. That is a violation of the rule of law.
It's not limited to Dems, that's part of the political fabrication. Trump applied pressure to Republicans in Congress to wait until after the elections to pass a bill. In everyway this is a political fabrication. The political will is to continue to use this as a method of getting more people elected to Congress, on both sides.
There have been viable solutions to this problem for decades. The only reason its a forefront issue is because its the best thing that Trump can think of to rally his worshipers. Same way Hitler did with the Jews.
 
Let's see... an influx of people who have no jobs, no money, may have trouble with the language, and we don't even have a reasonable way to do a thorough background check. So total unknowns coming into our country needing food and shelter, but with no way to reimburse us for our largesse. Am I tracking so far? This political fabrication has reached the point that Texas is suing the federal government for the right to enforce the federal laws that the federal government itself won't enforce. We now have ...

11.35 million total undocumented immigrants as of 2022
That number grew to its 2022 level after 1.13 more undocumented immigrants came in between January 2021 and January 2022.


It may be completely political, but because of lax border policy, and considering minimum wage in some states is $15/hour, or $30K per year, that is roughly $30 BILLION dollars of support. You can claim that some of the immigrants are children, but that would ADD to support needs given the odds that some of those kids will not have been vaccinated in their home countries and therefore will need extra medical attention.

Because they broke federal laws to enter our country without proper documentation, they are criminals. This fabrication caused the mayors of several major northern cities to howl in protest when some of the immigrants were dropped off in "sanctuary cities." Yep, a total fabrication.
This has been going of for 50 years. In that time we could have had many wonderful methods of fixing the problem. There has never been a reason to end it because they have been the majority of the construction work force for 30 years. you are only seeing the parts you want to see.
I've been in construction for 40 years now. What you see is nothing like reality.

Does it need fixing, it certainly needs to be overhauled there is no doubt, but Conservatives aren't any more interested in fixing then the Dems. They just want you to believe they are. Our governor is doing this purely for Political reasons. As the state turns more towards Blue he is following Trump's lead and making this into yet another single issue campaign.

To hear you folks go on about things one would think the Repubs are angels and the Dems are the devil himself. Is there one single issue that you don't blame of the Democrats?
 
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It's not limited to Dems, that's part of the political fabrication
A gross exaggeration. The Democrats have opened the border. We now have a massive flood instead of a small trickle.

There have been viable solutions to this problem for decades.
Immediate deportation. Those with soft hearts (who don't comprehend that they are committing cultural suicide) will whine about about the inhumanity of that. Countries like Iran and organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah have no regrets concerning their human rights abuses. Don't like to wear a burka in Afghanistan, the state may execute you for failing to wear one. Immediate deportation is not inhuman for people attempting to break the law to enter this country.
 
Let's see... an influx of people who have no jobs, no money, may have trouble with the language, and we don't even have a reasonable way to do a thorough background check. So total unknowns coming into our country needing food and shelter, but with no way to reimburse us for our largesse. Am I tracking so far? This political fabrication has reached the point that Texas is suing the federal government for the right to enforce the federal laws that the federal government itself won't enforce. We now have ...

11.35 million total undocumented immigrants as of 2022
That number grew to its 2022 level after 1.13 more undocumented immigrants came in between January 2021 and January 2022.


It may be completely political, but because of lax border policy, and considering minimum wage in some states is $15/hour, or $30K per year, that is roughly $30 BILLION dollars of support. You can claim that some of the immigrants are children, but that would ADD to support needs given the odds that some of those kids will not have been vaccinated in their home countries and therefore will need extra medical attention.

Because they broke federal laws to enter our country without proper documentation, they are criminals. This fabrication caused the mayors of several major northern cities to howl in protest when some of the immigrants were dropped off in "sanctuary cities." Yep, a total fabrication.

Even letting in ONE undocumented immigrant into this country is an offense to those of us who have to show our documents every time we come in, and an offense to the need to check for terrorists coming in.
 
The reality is simple. The fix was rejected by conservative in Congress because Trump pressured them to wait until after the election. I'm not in any way a liberal, only the dogma from the ultra far right describes me that way.
How was that a fix? Please explain.
 
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What kind of an accusation is that? What EXACTLY are you accusing me of doing? Show me or apologize.
I've asked you several times to stop taking my words out of context? You do it with regularity or at least periodically. Do you really expect me to go through this silly pretend debate we've been having for the last month.
Even letting in ONE undocumented immigrant into this country is an offense to those of us who have to show our documents every time we come in, and an offense to the need to check for terrorists coming in.
You eat food grown by aliens, and live in a house that was built by immigrant labor, A large part of it probably illegal. All that beautiful landscaping in your town, illegal.

Typical propaganda using innumeracy to make a point. Only report on the part that support a world view.
 
I've asked you several times to stop taking my words out of context? You do it with regularity or at least periodically. Do you really expect me to go through this silly pretend debate we've been having for the last month.

You eat food grown by aliens, and live in a house that was built by immigrant labor, A large part of it probably illegal. All that beautiful landscaping in your town, illegal.

Typical propaganda using innumeracy to make a point. Only report on the part that support a world view.

That's all well and good, but we need to use the legal worker program, such as we already have - not unvetted people just racing across the border helter skelter. Typical 2 wrongs make a right.
 
I've asked you several times to stop taking my words out of context? You do it with regularity or at least periodically. Do you really expect me to go through this silly pretend debate we've been having for the last month.

You eat food grown by aliens, and live in a house that was built by immigrant labor, A large part of it probably illegal. All that beautiful landscaping in your town, illegal.

Typical propaganda using innumeracy to make a point. Only report on the part that support a world view.

And I have family who are immigrants looking for work, so I know something about that world too. Most people working construction are verified using the everify system just like everyone else. They get a SSN to use as if it is theirs. It works, but is also serious felony identity theft in most states. Most of them working construction are NOT working with the owner's knowledge that they are illegal and a wink and a nod; they are using real SSNs of some kind. I know because my inlaw who is looking for work has been 100% unsuccessful in finding those jobs where you can be totally undocumented and work there anyway - the Truth is, those place don't exist for the most part any more. They used to, but the penalties for employers are very severe, so that whole aspect of the discussion is so 20 years ago.

Please note, never once, I don't think, have I said that illegal immigrants were "taking American jobs". I don't buy that part of the argument, so your preaching to the choir by keeping on hinting at that aspect of it. We all know right now the problem is convincing white people to even WORK - and certainly nobody is taking their jobs. There are far more jobs than we can fill right now, anyone who wants a job has one; anyone who doesn't have one doesn't want one. (another reason to reign in the welfare state a bit).

We still can't have an insecure border encouraged with a wink and a nod from liberal presidents who make sure life is pretty easy for the masses who cross.
 

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