Celebration time in the USA?

[ColinEssex]

June the 8th is the 40th anniversary of the bombing of a little village in Vietnam. The bombs were napalm and killed many - as they did in many innocent villages, but the USA just continued bombing.

A girl aged 12 called Kim, was photographed running from the village with 3rd degree burns and no clothes because they were burned by the napalm. She spent years in pain having operations to try to rectify the US bomb damage. Others were not so lucky, they died there and then in agony.

Does the USA remember these iconic moments as victories? A 12 year old girl is definately a threat to the USA and therefore must be killed as painfully as possible. (God bless the USA. . . .amen)

Like the bombing of villages in Afghanistan and the Middle East by unmanned drone planes today. Does it matter who the USA kills? Or is it all part of the glorious illegal war the US is engaged in.

Col

 

[Galaxiom]

A couple of years ago I saw an interview with the woman that girl grew to become. If I remember correctly she married a Canadian man.

 

[TessB]

Col,
I'm not quite sure to whom that question was posed.
"Does it matter who the USA kills?"
Well, of course it does.

I know the picture of which you speak, the little girl with her arms out to her sides because she is in such pain, naked except the garments that have burned into her skin. I know and I think most of mature Americans know that picture. We are not proud of that, let me assure you. War is horrendous. There was a huge outcry of protest against that war. I, even today, honestly don't even understand what the FLICK that war was all about. I think I was in elementary school at the time and completely ignorant concerning world politics. Sadly, today I am in my late 40's, and I am still quite uneducated on the subject. It proves to be beyond my grasp.

But since you seem to have a thorough understanding, and reside in a country from which many of we Americans have descended, making you, seemingly, a natural brother, kin, familial bond and a close ally, what do you suggest our two nations do together to solve the "whatever issues that need to be resolved" in the world and make it safe, harmonious, and equitable for all concerned? What do we ALL need to do to create a world in which all can live in peace and prosperity?

I'm seriously asking.
I would love to hear your ideas... and anyone else's for that matter. How do we make this world right? How do we stop people from killing people? How do we equalize all humanity, no matter the heritage or culture, or religion or gender, or ethos, or resources, and come to some sort of common understanding and acceptance of one another while we work out our issues?

By the way, sorry I have been away for so long. I have personally been going through quite a few life changes. I am actually no longer TessB in reality. I am now TeresaP. Welcome to all the new people who have come along in the last several months. Hello to any of my old pals, including Col, of course, whom everyone knows I love and respect, and have since I joined AWF. I prefer Teresa, but will, of course answer to Tess just as I still answer to Terrie when my best friend from high school calls me. (She's the ONLY one who still calls me that.... well, and now her children do as well.)

 

[Vassago]

Col,
I'm not quite sure to whom that question was posed.
"Does it matter who the USA kills?"
Well, of course it does.

I know the picture of which you speak, the little girl with her arms out to her sides because she is in such pain, naked except the garments that have burned into her skin. I know and I think most of mature Americans know that picture. We are not proud of that, let me assure you. War is horrendous. There was a huge outcry of protest against that war. I, even today, honestly don't even understand what the FLICK that war was all about. I think I was in elementary school at the time and completely ignorant concerning world politics. Sadly, today I am in my late 40's, and I am still quite uneducated on the subject. It proves to be beyond my grasp.

But since you seem to have a thorough understanding, and reside in a country from which many of we Americans have descended, making you, seemingly, a natural brother, kin, familial bond and a close ally, what do you suggest our two nations do together to solve the "whatever issues that need to be resolved" in the world and make it safe, harmonious, and equitable for all concerned? What do we ALL need to do to create a world in which all can live in peace and prosperity?

I'm seriously asking.
I would love to hear your ideas... and anyone else's for that matter. How do we make this world right? How do we stop people from killing people? How do we equalize all humanity, no matter the heritage or culture, or religion or gender, or ethos, or resources, and come to some sort of common understanding and acceptance of one another while we work out our issues?

By the way, sorry I have been away for so long. I have personally been going through quite a few life changes. I am actually no longer TessB in reality. I am now TeresaP. Welcome to all the new people who have come along in the last several months. Hello to any of my old pals, including Col, of course, whom everyone knows I love and respect, and have since I joined AWF. I prefer Teresa, but will, of course answer to Tess just as I still answer to Terrie when my best friend from high school calls me. (She's the ONLY one who still calls me that.... well, and now her children do as well.)

So very good to hear from you! We've missed you around these parts. I'm going to send you a PM.

 

[Jacob Mathai]

Celebration time in England

On April 13, 1919, a multitude of Punjabis (in India) gathered in Amritsar's Jallian wala Bagh as part of the Sikh Festival "Baisakhi fair" and to protest at the extraordinary measures taken by England. The throng, penned in a narrow space smaller than Trafalgar Square, had been peacefully listening to the testimony of victims when Dyer appeared at the head of a contingent of British troops. Giving no word of warning, he ordered 50 soldiers to fire into the gathering, and for 10 to 15 minutes 1,650 rounds of ammunition were unloaded into the screaming, terrified crowd, some of whom were trampled by those desperately trying to escape.
"The Indians were 'packed together so that one bullet would drive through three or four bodies'; the people 'ran madly this way and the other. When fire was directed upon the centre, they ran to the sides. The fire was then directed to the sides. Many threw themselves down on the ground, and the fire was then directed on the ground. This was continued for eight or ten minutes, and it stopped only when the ammunition had reached the point of exhaustion".....Winston Churchill
Dyer then marched away, leaving 379 dead and over 1,500 wounded.
Back in his headquarters, he reported to his superiors that he had been 'confronted by a revolutionary army,' and had been obliged 'to teach a moral lesson to the Punjab.' In the storm of outrage which followed, the brigadier was promoted to major general, retired, and placed on the inactive list.
''I think it quite possible that I could have dispersed the crowd without firing but they would have come back again and laughed, and I would have made, what I consider, a fool of myself.'' ......Dyer's response to the Hunter Commission Enquiry
General Dyer said he would have used his machine guns if he could have got them into the enclosure, but these were mounted on armoured cars. He said he did not stop firing when the crowd began to disperse because he thought it was his duty to keep firing until the crowd dispersed, and that a little firing would do no good.
He confessed he did not take any steps to attend to the wounded after the firing. ''Certainly not. It was not my job. Hospitals were open and they could have gone there,'' came his pathetic response.

 

[ColinEssex]

Celebration time in England

Ahhh, the good old days of the Empire - sadly now lost forever. Now we're stuck with the Commonwealth. Who cares about Australia, New Zealand or Canada?

The good old days when we could get the pukka-wallahs fanning us in the Indian heat are just a memory.

Now we have to rely on the Chinese for getting 10year old children making our goods for us. Still, as they say - little fingers = little stiches.
Plus it gives them a living and work experience, all handy for later life when they have to survive in downtown Cowloon or Shanghai.

Col