driving standards of road users

The catch with crotch rockets is that when they hit 100 mph+, you hope you are still with them when they do.
 
Actually Rich, they don't do bad for what they are. When you realize that they re-engineered the re-engineered engines ( :eek: ) to get the sound, you just have to remember that a 1500cc Hardley has roughly about the same performance as an 1100cc Honda. I can't speak for the other manufacturers, but I know my 'Wing and a Softtail are pretty evenly matched.
 
statsman said:
7. When a vehicle is approaching your line of travel from a side street, always make eye contact with the driver. If he won't make eye contact or he's looking the other way, hit the horn.

i agree with those pointers.

re no 7 - last week i was riding along a road in chiswick coming up to a junction where a minor road joined the road i was on from the left.

first car was stationary at line waiting for me to pass, eye contact made and all ok. I spotted another car slowly pulling up behind the first one and made eye contact again. this driver was an old biddy who made eye contact with me and seemed to freeze in awe of my magnificent machine....she carried on staring at me but neglected to touch the brake before she thumped into the car in front!! it was quite hard to stay on the bike when i was laughing so much:D

it was a minor bump (about 5mph probably) but i bet she was cursing me for being an irresponsible rider for holding here gaze too long!
 
My stepdaughter drives two vehicles - a Toyota Tundra and a Honda Shadow. She definitely knows about crotch rockets. I'm proud to say that she has taken and passed motorcycle safety classes sponsored by the state police department and by her insurance company. She's a very careful driver in either vehicle.

I continue to think of the old Roadrunner cartoon where Wiley Coyote rode a rocket to catch up with the Roadrunner. Usually with disastrous results. When he's lucky, the rocket merely runs out of fuel and sputters. Then he's on momentum. But now and then the rocket is a pyrotechnic device and the flare or flash-charge detonates. Either of these is a serious possibility with a crotch rocket.
 
emcf said:
don't you ride one of those fat slow tourers like col?!?:p
No it's a fat, fast, stylish tourer, with enough of a rough edge to keep a smile on the face:cool: :p
 
Rich said:
I suspect the original poster's estimation of the speed was somewhat flawed and tainted by envy. Would his estimate stand up in court?


Maybe, but he went close to 1/2 of a mile in very few seconds I doubt my estimation was off by much.

If anything, he was going faster (see attached map).

The little red rectangle represents me stopped, first in line, at a red light. The yellow curve is the bike. For scale the red circle is around a regular sized Wal-Mart.


When I was young I used to drive pretty fast quite regularly.

Once a girlfriend of mine and I drove to West Texas (long straight roads) with the cruise control set to 100.


And at my age, I don’t have much "envy" for people doing stupid things.
 

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jsanders said:
The little red rectangle represents me stopped, first in line, at a red light. The yellow curve is the bike. For scale the red circle is around a regular sized Wal-Mart.
But where's the swallow?

...and would that be African or European ?:confused:
 
jsanders said:
Maybe, but he went close to 1/2 of a mile in very few seconds I doubt my estimation was off by much.

If anything, he was going faster (see attached map).

The little red rectangle represents me stopped, first in line, at a red light. The yellow curve is the bike. For scale the red circle is around a regular sized Wal-Mart.


When I was young I used to drive pretty fast quite regularly.

Once a girlfriend of mine and I drove to West Texas (long straight roads) with the cruise control set to 100.
And at my age, I don’t have much "envy" for people doing stupid things.
Can't see the image here, however according to the figures you've given, he'd been doing appr. 300 to 500mph.
Of course it all depends on what a few seconds is and it wouldn't take a clever lawyer long to tear your statement apart, as I said previously, inadmissible evidence.
 
Rich said:
Can't see the image here, however according to the figures you've given, he'd been doing appr. 300 to 500mph.
Of course it all depends on what a few seconds is and it wouldn't take a clever lawyer long to tear your statement apart, as I said previously, inadmissible evidence.

Courts are not about facts.
 
I consider myself to be a courtieous driver. I got into the habit of checking my mirrors etc., when taking driving lessons and it's not a habit I lost once I passed my test and learned to drive.

Unfortunately, experience has taught me one very valuable lesson: assume everyone else who uses the road is a complete and utter idiot. Now I automatically assume responsibility, not only for my safety and that of my passengers, but also for any other road users because they are too stupid to assume it for themselves. I keep my distance from dangerous and erratic drivers, spot cyclists who don't have lights, and curse BMW drivers (the one thing missing from an otherwise perfectly accurate list)
 
Rich said:
No it's a fat, fast, stylish tourer, with enough of a rough edge to keep a smile on the face:cool: :p


ahh...ok -

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so what your saying is your tourer is fat but fast and stylish whereas col's one is not?!:D
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emcf said:
ahh...ok -

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so what your saying is your tourer is fat but fast and stylish whereas col's one is not?!:D
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Col's is functional and reliable:p
 
Rich said:
Of course it all depends on what a few seconds is and it wouldn't take a clever lawyer long to tear your statement apart, as I said previously, inadmissible evidence.

I didn't know we were talking about going to court. :confused: Just trying to estimate how fast someone is going. At any rate, going very fast on a crowded street sounds like a bad idea to me. I'm not envious of anyone who is making stupid decisions. :p I've ridden on motorcycles a few times and it is rather enjoyable, but I would be afraid to on a regular basis due to the fact that everyone else on the road can be so irresponsible. Car vs. bike, the bike is always going to lose.

By the way J, I can't see the image either.
 
Rich said:
Col's is functional and reliable:p


you make it sound like a hackney cab...col's bike doesn't run on diesel does it?!?:D
 
MrsGorilla said:
Car vs. bike, the bike is always going to lose.

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Well not exactly, a motorbike (but not a Hardly) can often accelerate itself out of trouble:cool:
 
10 reasons why Hardly riders don't wave back......

10. Afraid it will invalidate warranty.

9. Leather and studs make it too hard to raise arm.

8. Refuses to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for.

7. Afraid to let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off.

6. Rushing wind would blow scabs off the new tattoos.

5. The sub-atomic vibrations have scrambled their brains and they can do nothing apart from hold on.

4. Just discovered the fine print in the owner's manual and realized H-D is partially owned by those rice-burner manufactures.

3. Can't tell if other riders are waving or just pointing and laughing like everyone else.

2. Remembers the last time a Harley rider waved back, he impaled his hand on spiked helmet.

1. They're jealous that after spending $30,000, they still don't own a proper bike.

surely there's some harley riders that'll bite on this one.....:D or maybe they are too ashamed to admit it:eek:
 

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