Gestapo

[Dick7Access]

Does anybody here agree the ultimate goal of the left of defunding of the local police is, Gestapo.

 

[Isaac]

Slowly, over time, after witnessing the left wing systematically one by one destroying everything that has been shown to support wealth, stability, non-criminals, homeownership, etc .....such as the family unit, marriage, fathers, encouraging responsible workers who take responsibility for themselves.....Yeah, kind of. I think their ultimate goal is anarchy, out of which they will of course, offer a solution.

It's their only hope of competing with traditional conservative government, where people are required to take responsibility for their own lives and work - and then they get financially comfortable, (usually), and relatively happy (if they have a loving family).

The left-wing ideologues have nothing to offer that can compete with that, so they hope to destroy it, and only after that point, their arguments will start to seem appealing. (they already seem appealing to those who either don't want to work, or those who have been tricked into somehow feeling guilty for being responsible for their own personal success).

 

[Dick7Access]

The goal of the left in defunding the police is to destabilize society to the point where it is necessary for the "government" to bring in a nationalized police force. Is that what you mean by Gestapo? They've already taken over a number of big city police forces using consent decrees where the police force needs to reform itself to the specifications set by the "government".

What we should be defunding is the FBI and DOJ. THOSE are the corrupt organizations. The CIA is pretty bad too given the willingness of former employees to sign on to the "letter" testifying that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation. Has anyone apologized for that yet?????

Amen

 

[Steve R.]

Does anybody here agree the ultimate goal of the left of defunding of the local police is, Gestapo.

It's a move to eliminate local law enforcement and replace it with a federal police force. Candice Owens had an excellent video clip, previously posted on the forum, where she speculated that the purpose of the defunding the local police was to cripple them from doing their job which creates chaos in the streets manipulating the populace to demand federal help. Candace Makes Case That ‘Defund The Police’ Really Means ‘Federalizing’ Them.

Additionally, consider the illegal immigration issue as another prong to promote increased federal power. Some Democrats have begun to complain that they can't take-care of the illegal immigrants arriving. Instead of demanding that Biden close the border that the illegal immigrants be deported, they are requesting federal aid to take care of the illegal immigrants.

Biden is implementing oppressive policies more in-line with Stalinist Russia, the old USSR. (Of course Orwell's novel 1984 comes to mind,) As such, instead of Gestapo a more appropriate secret police term would be KGB, but then Gestapo has immediate name recognition. I suppose Stasi, the East German secret police could also work.

PS: After posting, I ran across this post by AntiStatist on Bretibart. Seems that there are a few people comparing what Biden is doing here to the old Soviet Union.

I finally started reading the Gulag Archipelago. The first thing that hit me is how our DoJ/FBI is starting to resemble the Soviet secret police (Cheka/NKVD). It's more subtle, but it's there.

 

[ebs17]

When the Gestapo and Stasi are mentioned here, it shows a profound ignorance of their real work.

 

[Steve R.]

When the Gestapo and Stasi are mentioned here, it shows a profound ignorance of their real work.

Explain.

 

[ebs17]

Explain.

Being pursued by an all-powerful political police force in a political dictatorship is most certainly something most who grow up and live in the soft nest of a democracy cannot even begin to imagine.

A perceived equation with real political victims is a mockery of such victims, which one should better refrain from.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

@ebs17 - I don't wish to downplay your statement at all. However, there is such a thing as seeing a disturbing trend heading towards a relentless and brutal governmental law enforcement group.

 

[Isaac]

When the Gestapo and Stasi are mentioned here, it shows a profound ignorance of their real work.

1. I'm sorry, but I cannot help but get the distinct impression, after reading many of your posts, that you actually try not to see the point someone is making, preferring instead to pick on small flaws in an analogy, for instance.

2. I actually am impressed by people who try to learn from history. Analogies are never meant to be two identical things; if they were, they'd be one thing, not an analogy between 2 things.

Nothing quite like making an analogy, then someone pointing out how the 2 things differ. But of course.

The general trend toward big government tracking too much information on citizens, the FBI showing up at your home for no recorded reason on the day you are about to testify against Democrats in Congress, the stalking and harassment of people working for faith-based activist groups.

Like it or not, for a lot of people that sounds like strong-arming for illicit purposes. The Gestapo did that. Among many other things, of which you seem to have particular knowledge and interest.